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August 14, 2019, 06:09:49 AM
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Hello Meta.
So i had several discussions with user bob123 about my trading bot service
here and here where he was constantly accusing me of scam without any reason or evidence. I even tried to offer my bot service at special privileges to him so he can test it and see i'm not a scammer but refused and continued spamming until, also thanks to other users, we roasted him.

After that i started receiving PMs of posts of mine being deleted. Now i'm fine as long as there are a couple ups here and there, but why would a mod delete something like this:






Maybe i can understand the last one, after replying so many times to the same nonsense accusations i started to lose my calm, but what about the first 2?

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August 14, 2019, 06:24:05 AM
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but why would a mod delete something like this:
Your post may not have been off-topic, but not only off-topic replies gets deleted,.
Your bot looks too good to be true, and the services you claim you it offers is to an extent suspicious, so the mod who deleted probably felt the need to warn others(the unsuspecting ones) from falling for such by removing it.

If your "magic" bot is legit, you do not need to worry about it getting deleted or arguing with users over it's potential, just go ahead and use it yourself alone,they'll be the ones missing out, won't they? Wink Grin

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Maybe the last one is off-topic and not much add to the discussion that's why it's been reported and the mods delete it. Seems those earlier post been deleted are old bumps and maybe one guy reported it as well then deleted it by mods, see the reference of the rule below. So far is that the only posts been deleted on your posts?

21. Old bumps should be deleted. [2]

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August 14, 2019, 07:08:14 AM
Last edit: August 14, 2019, 07:26:35 AM by CryptoSparks
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but why would a mod delete something like this:
Your post may not have been off-topic, but not only off-topic replies gets deleted,.
Your bot looks too good to be true, and the services you claim you it offers is to an extent suspicious, so the mod who deleted probably felt the need to warn others(the unsuspecting ones) from falling for such by removing it.

If your "magic" bot is legit, you do not need to worry about it getting deleted or arguing with users over it's potential, just go ahead and use it yourself alone,they'll be the ones missing out, won't they? Wink Grin

What's suspicious ? 95% of all trading is made by algo bots. why do you think they exits? probably because they manage to make money.
Quant shops, Hedge Fund, are they magicians?
Please do your research on the argument.. on next month thread i will share read only key of test account so everyone can see the performance.
Anyway i'm not here to talk about my service, so please stay on topic. Besides that , the "warning of unsuspecting ones" out of a mod's personal opinion of a business like many others and without any bad reviews, would be the worst of things. so i hope and don't think is this



Maybe the last one is off-topic and not much add to the discussion that's why it's been reported and the mods delete it. Seems those earlier post been deleted are old bumps and maybe one guy reported it as well then deleted it by mods, see the reference of the rule below. So far is that the only posts been deleted on your posts?

21. Old bumps should be deleted. [2]

Yeah probably this was it, even though is pretty stupid to consider post like that equal to a 1 word bump.
Yes only these and 3-4 "ups"

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August 14, 2019, 07:33:00 AM
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[..] where he was constantly accusing me of scam without any reason or evidence.

I never accused you of scamming.
All i did was pointing out that this offer is sketchy and that there is a possibility of user losing funds.

Especially since you were not able to properly answer questions. Combined with your super logic of 'more people doing the same trade means more money for all of us' that raises flags.

It would be way more profitable to simply gather investments and get rich fast, but you decide to offer this 'service' here, promoting it and wasting your time contributing in bounties which earn you a few $ per hour.
This simply doesn't make much sense.



[..] and continued spamming

If it is spam, report the posts.
I am sure the moderators will delete them if they indeed are just spam.



[..] we roasted him.

Grin Did i miss something ?

Sorry, but i won't engage in off-topic discussions where XRP and EOS are considered to not be shitcoins.



After that i started receiving PMs of posts of mine being deleted. Now i'm fine as long as there are a couple ups here and there, but why would a mod delete something like this:

They got deleted because they violated the forum rules. And no, i did not report each of them.

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August 14, 2019, 07:41:35 AM
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Yeah probably this was it, even though is pretty stupid to consider post like that equal to a 1 word bump.
Yes only these and 3-4 "ups"

It doesn't matter how long the post is, it's still an undeleted bump and these should be removed by yourself when you make a new one.

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August 14, 2019, 07:46:40 AM
Last edit: August 14, 2019, 07:58:16 AM by CryptoSparks
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[..] where he was constantly accusing me of scam without any reason or evidence.

I never accused you of scamming.
All i did was pointing out that this offer is sketchy and that there is a possibility of user losing funds.

Especially since you were not able to properly answer questions. Combined with your super logic of 'more people doing the same trade means more money for all of us' that raises flags.

It would be way more profitable to simply gather investments and get rich fast, but you decide to offer this 'service' here, promoting it and wasting your time contributing in bounties which earn you a few $ per hour.
This simply doesn't make much sense.



[..] and continued spamming

If it is spam, report the posts.
I am sure the moderators will delete them if they indeed are just spam.



[..] we roasted him.

Grin Did i miss something ?

Sorry, but i won't engage in off-topic discussions where XRP and EOS are considered to not be shitcoins.



After that i started receiving PMs of posts of mine being deleted. Now i'm fine as long as there are a couple ups here and there, but why would a mod delete something like this:

They got deleted because they violated the forum rules. And no, i did not report each of them.

Funny guy, go ahead and read the whole thing again, all you have been done is yelling scam simply because you have no knowledge in the space. I explained things in detail several times, you simply got roasted and disappear(finally  Grin )
Also yeah sure, you aren't the one trying to rise the number of my deleted post, i wonder how you know that i did some translation bounties in 2018. OPSS  i guess you spent good hours searching in my 900+ post history;D Grin Lucky for me i stopped wasting my time with bounties(how is your signature going btw?) and started working on my bots. But hey i will be waiting you on my next month thread, big things coming  Kiss

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August 14, 2019, 07:47:30 AM
Last edit: August 14, 2019, 08:19:52 AM by YOSHIE
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The problem is here, bob123 and you protect each other's reputation,
You threatened to report. @ bob123, for spam posts.

If you keep spamming my threads i will report you, since are now 3 months that this is going on.

Feel free to report each single post.
I am sure the moderators will take care of it, if it really happens to be spam  Smiley

But most likely they won't remove my posts where i outline your logical errors as well as the potential for you to scam people.

Now look what is said by: @theymos.
About topic replies or posters are useless.

What about these posts which consist of nothing but "+1", or "-1"?

I consider these posts to be off-topic because they have no point, but they don't cause much damage, so I usually don't delete them unless the poster posts useless replies a lot or the useless replies are reported.

Other moderators might be more or less strict about this.

So, I think your post was deleted based on the above, possibly.

who is fast he wins.
You know what I mean ...!

In other cases, if you make a mistake about your post, which violates the forum rules, your post can also be deleted.
for example error:


1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

2. No off-topic posts.

3. No trolling.

4. No referral code (ref link) spam. [1]

13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours.[2]

22. Advertising (this includes mining pools, gambling services, exchanges, shops, etc.) in others threads' is no longer allowed, including, but not limited to, in altcoin announcement threads. [8]

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August 14, 2019, 07:47:42 AM
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Yeah probably this was it, even though is pretty stupid to consider post like that equal to a 1 word bump.
Yes only these and 3-4 "ups"

It doesn't matter how long the post is, it's still an undeleted bump and these should be removed by yourself when you make a new one.

That brings value to my thread, is not a bump

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Yeah probably this was it, even though is pretty stupid to consider post like that equal to a 1 word bump.
Yes only these and 3-4 "ups"

It doesn't matter how long the post is, it's still an undeleted bump and these should be removed by yourself when you make a new one.


But some people do get unnoticed by the mods and keep on doing the bump without deleting the previous ones.
2 -3 Pages full on bump only here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3173239.120


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Yeah probably this was it, even though is pretty stupid to consider post like that equal to a 1 word bump.
Yes only these and 3-4 "ups"

It doesn't matter how long the post is, it's still an undeleted bump and these should be removed by yourself when you make a new one.

That brings value to my thread, is not a bump


Are you really just trying to argue about that ?

Please first read the forum rules:

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

So, if it is not a bump it falls under this category.

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August 14, 2019, 07:55:18 AM
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The problem is here, bob123 and you protect each other's reputation,
You threatened to report. @ bob123, for spam posts.

If you keep spamming my threads i will report you, since are now 3 months that this is going on.

Feel free to report each single post.
I am sure the moderators will take care of it, if it really happens to be spam  Smiley

But most likely they won't remove my posts where i outline your logical errors as well as the potential for you to scam people.

Now look what is said by: @theymos.
About topic replies or posters are useless.

What about these posts which consist of nothing but "+1", or "-1"?

I consider these posts to be off-topic because they have no point, but they don't cause much damage, so I usually don't delete them unless the poster posts useless replies a lot or the useless replies are reported.

Other moderators might be more or less strict about this.

So, I think your post was deleted based on the above, possibly.

Who is that fast who can.
You know what I mean ...!

I agree with theymos' view, but he says "because they have no point" . If i'm managing a quant shop thread and every 3 days i want to show last trades, how can that have no point? How can it be better to delete previous post and create new one and loosing track of all example trades posted? i mean it doesn't make sense for me. I think that the old bumps rule reffers to threads where all last replies are
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BUMP
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and none of them bring any kind of "new value"

Yeah probably this was it, even though is pretty stupid to consider post like that equal to a 1 word bump.
Yes only these and 3-4 "ups"

It doesn't matter how long the post is, it's still an undeleted bump and these should be removed by yourself when you make a new one.


But some people do get unnoticed by the mods and keep on doing the bump without deleting the previous ones.
2 -3 Pages full on bump only here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3173239.120



Exactly this!

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August 14, 2019, 07:56:51 AM
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If i'm managing a quant shop thread and every 3 days i want to show last trades, how can that have no point? How can it be better to delete previous post and create new one and loosing track of all example trades posted?

In this case you could simply edit your last post to include the new trades / information.

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August 14, 2019, 07:59:48 AM
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Yeah probably this was it, even though is pretty stupid to consider post like that equal to a 1 word bump.
Yes only these and 3-4 "ups"

It doesn't matter how long the post is, it's still an undeleted bump and these should be removed by yourself when you make a new one.


But some people do get unnoticed by the mods and keep on doing the bump without deleting the previous ones.
2 -3 Pages full on bump only here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3173239.120



And when they're reported they're acted upon, which is probably what happened here. Report undeleted bumps if you see them.

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August 14, 2019, 08:01:15 AM
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That brings value to my thread, is not a bump
If you're the last one who posted in the thread, you can edit your last post to "bring value". If you add another post, it's considered a bump.

I do admit I sometimes make posts in a row though, for various reasons, and I sometimes forget to delete an old bump. Some of them I notice by myself much later, some of them get removed by Mods.

But some people do get unnoticed by the mods and keep on doing the bump without deleting the previous ones.
2 -3 Pages full on bump only here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3173239.120
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August 14, 2019, 08:03:42 AM
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If i'm managing a quant shop thread and every 3 days i want to show last trades, how can that have no point? How can it be better to delete previous post and create new one and loosing track of all example trades posted?

In this case you could simply edit your last post to include the new trades / information.

That would quickly turn into a mess.
Also if i have an actual value to bring and reason to up my thread every 3 days i don't see why i shouldn't be allowed to do so, especially when most of people, as the user UmerIdrees pointed out, do savage ups without no consequences.

The difference is that I have you reporting all my posts because you got roasted and can't get over it

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August 14, 2019, 08:07:43 AM
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Also if i have an actual value to bring and reason to up my thread every 3 days i don't see why i shouldn't be allowed to do so
The fact that it's in the rules should be enough reason:
32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

What you should have done, is create a few "Reserved" posts right after you started the topic, and edit those with updates.

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August 14, 2019, 08:07:51 AM
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If i'm managing a quant shop thread and every 3 days i want to show last trades, how can that have no point? How can it be better to delete previous post and create new one and loosing track of all example trades posted?

In this case you could simply edit your last post to include the new trades / information.

If you simply edit your last post and put new information about the trades, your thread will remain buried somewhere (If no one replies on it) and no one will notice if you posted any new trades or not.

A better option will be to copy the last post content, delete the last post, and make the new post with the old trade data  (last Post) + the new trade data. This way your thread will also be on top of the list and the new information will also be posted and there will be no bump related issues.

Correct me i am wrong ?

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August 14, 2019, 08:11:14 AM
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Also if i have an actual value to bring and reason to up my thread every 3 days i don't see why i shouldn't be allowed to do so
The fact that it's in the rules should be enough reason:
32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

(excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter)

So what are we talking about here? i'm allowed to up my thread like in every forum with some common sense of course.


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August 14, 2019, 08:13:26 AM
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If you simply edit your last post and put new information about the trades, your thread will remain buried somewhere (If no one replies on it) and no one will notice if you posted any new trades or not.
How about this: Edit the post, then create a new one with just "Bump". That needs to be at least 24 hours after the last post.
When you bump it again, you delete the previous bump.

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A better option will be to copy the last post content, delete the last post, and make the new post with the old trade data  (last Post) + the new trade data. This way your thread will also be on top of the list and the new information will also be posted and there will be no bump related issues.
I do that sometimes (example 1, example 2), but only in certain topics.

(excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter)
Lol, are you lecturing me on the forum rules?
How's this one:
21. Old bumps should be deleted. [2]

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August 14, 2019, 08:14:40 AM
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You really like roasting, don't you ?

My points are still all valid. Just because there is an off-topic discussion going on whether shitcoins are shitcoins in which i do not want to participate, i got roasted ?
Oh.. whatever.



(excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter)

So what are we talking about here? i'm allowed to up my thread like in every forum with some common sense of course.

You said yourself that these are not bumps, but new information.
Therefore it falls under the multi-posting rule.

Simply just edit your last post, i don't get your problem. If you are the only one participating in your thread it might not be as interesting as you think ?

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August 14, 2019, 08:15:08 AM
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If i'm managing a quant shop thread and every 3 days i want to show last trades, how can that have no point? How can it be better to delete previous post and create new one and loosing track of all example trades posted?

In this case you could simply edit your last post to include the new trades / information.

If you simply edit your last post and put new information about the trades, your thread will remain buried somewhere (If no one replies on it) and no one will notice if you posted any new trades or not.

A better option will be to copy the last post content, delete the last post, and make the new post with the old trade data  (last Post) + the new trade data. This way your thread will also be on top of the list and the new information will also be posted and there will be no bump related issues.

Correct me i am wrong ?

I was thinking the same things. This achieves the same result but with a lot of unnecessary work and without breaking the rules that in my opinion are wrongly interpreted.

But hey, if even using common sense, giving value to my bumps, and upping every 3 days i still have problems like this, better use the smart way i guess  Grin




(excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter)
Lol, are you lecturing me on the forum rules?
How's this one:
21. Old bumps should be deleted. [2]

I'm not lecturing a self made legendary  Grin
All i was saying is that rule is not being broken, but if you insist in considering the post examples in OP as non-valuable ups then rule 21 is broken.

No problem, my apologies.
Now I know how to trick rule 21 so i can up my threads like in every other forum.  Let's see if those get taken down too

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August 14, 2019, 08:23:30 AM
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So what are we talking about here? i'm allowed to up my thread like in every forum with some common sense of course.

But hey, if even using common sense, giving value to my bumps, and upping every 3 days i still have problems like this, better use the smart way i guess  Grin


You are again and again using the word  "common sense" to bump your thread.
I hope you know that any "common sense" which bump your thread violating the rules will be reported.  Wink


Now I know how to trick rule 21 so i can up my threads like in every other forum.  Let's see if those get taken down too

I do not know how will you trick the rule 21  Huh

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August 14, 2019, 08:27:28 AM
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You really like roasting, don't you ?

My points are still all valid. Just because there is an off-topic discussion going on whether shitcoins are shitcoins in which i do not want to participate, i got roasted ?
Oh.. whatever.



(excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter)

So what are we talking about here? i'm allowed to up my thread like in every forum with some common sense of course.

You said yourself that these are not bumps, but new information.
Therefore it falls under the multi-posting rule.

Simply just edit your last post, i don't get your problem. If you are the only one participating in your thread it might not be as interesting as you think ?

Your points got debunked several times and all users that joined that discussion agreed with me and pointed out that you have very little knowledge in the space, and i quote:
Gonna have to agree with sparks on this one.  Bob just starts off basically calling this guy a scammer, guilty before proven innocent lol.

Bob is just a minnow

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So what are we talking about here? i'm allowed to up my thread like in every forum with some common sense of course.

But hey, if even using common sense, giving value to my bumps, and upping every 3 days i still have problems like this, better use the smart way i guess  Grin


You are again and again using the word  "common sense" to bump your thread.
I hope you know that any "common sense" which bump your thread violating the rules will be reported.  Wink


Now I know how to trick rule 21 so i can up my threads like in every other forum.  Let's see if those get taken down too

I do not know how will you trick the rule 21  Huh

Yeah don't worry, you are allowed to bump your thread just delete the previous one and save the data in another post. easy!
By common sense is that my bumps will not be ugly as Loyce suggests, they will have value and will not break any rules while still upping my thread.
I know plenty of people will report it anyway, but at that point i wanna know which rule i broke . Is too easy to delete post without specifying the reason and letting the user figure out the why.

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Your points got debunked several times and all users that joined that discussion agreed with me and pointed out that you have very little knowledge in the space, and i quote:
Gonna have to agree with sparks on this one.  Bob just starts off basically calling this guy a scammer, guilty before proven innocent lol.

Bob is just a minnow

Ouch, that hurts.

Please teach me some knowledge, Mr. 1 received merit in the last 120 days and 39 merits within 900+ posts. I can still learn so much from you.
Unfortunately it seems you (Mr. received a lot of merit) and the newbie with 0 merit are right, i am such a noob who can still learn so much from both of you Sad


Oh.. i forgot, my points are still valid.
Instead of getting an investment and getting rich you decide to ask others to participate with your strategy so that 'everyone earns more' because 'more trades means more profit'  Grin

I am sorry to disappoint you, but i really don't care what you or others with no knowledge regarding bitcoin at all or who are promoting some shady 'services' are thinking.



I know plenty of people will report it anyway, but at that point i wanna know which rule i broke . Is too easy to delete post without specifying the reason and letting the user figure out the why.

If they don't break the rules, no one is going to report them.

The mods are not responsible for your mistakes. They don't need to explain what and how you did something wrong.
You should be old enough to figure it out yourself.

Just read the rules and follow them. It is quite easy.

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Your points got debunked several times and all users that joined that discussion agreed with me and pointed out that you have very little knowledge in the space, and i quote:
Gonna have to agree with sparks on this one.  Bob just starts off basically calling this guy a scammer, guilty before proven innocent lol.

Bob is just a minnow

Ouch, that hurts.

Please teach me some knowledge, Mr. 1 received merit in the last 120 days and 39 merits within 900+ posts. I can still learn so much from you.
Unfortunately it seems you (Mr. received a lot of merit) and the newbie with 0 merit are right, i am such a noob who can still learn so much from both of you Sad


Oh.. i forgot, my points are still valid.
Instead of getting an investment and getting rich you decide to ask others to participate with your strategy so that 'everyone earns more' because 'more trades means more profit'  Grin

I am sorry to disappoint you, but i really don't care what you or others with no knowledge regarding bitcoin at all or who are promoting some shady 'services' are thinking.



I know plenty of people will report it anyway, but at that point i wanna know which rule i broke . Is too easy to delete post without specifying the reason and letting the user figure out the why.

If they don't break the rules, no one is going to report them.

The mods are not responsible for your mistakes. They don't need to explain what and how you did something wrong.
You should be old enough to figure it out yourself.

Just read the rules and follow them. It is quite easy.


Yeah, i'm also wondering why ON EARTH there are IDIOTS that decided to open quant shops and hedge funds.
Man just stop, you are ignorant and refuse to learn. You are ignoring one of the biggest industry of the world.
But in the end, does that matter for a minnow like you that achieved the maximum goal? The LEGENDARY membership!!
SORRY if i spend my time developing skills and applying them instead of sitting all day on forum shi##ing on other people work!!

You really like roasting, don't you ?

I like roasting cocky fake intellectuals, and you proved to be one many times, and by a quick look at your posts history not only with me.



Posted several times already.

If you can't read, it is your fault. Learn to read, learn to comprehend what you read.. then look for it again.
If your IQ is higher than the IQ of a slice of bread, you will find it.


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August 14, 2019, 09:05:54 AM
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SORRY if i spend my time developing skills and applying them instead of sitting all day on forum shi##ing on other people work!!


Instead of getting an investment and getting rich you decide to ask others to participate with your strategy so that 'everyone earns more' because 'more trades means more profit'  Grin

Both of you, please stop this fight. Both of you are doing what you think is right and on one has the right to blame the other.

CryptoSparks, i think you have got the answer for which purpose this thread was opened and also i got some of my points/confusions cleared as well  Smiley,
so its better to lock it to prevent the spam.

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And obviously after this thread i got hit by 15 deleted posts and i bet many more to come  Grin




Funny little spineless human beings, am i right ?  Grin

Well, my update thread for Nash it will be probably get eaten up  
oh boooy, how will i even survive, too bad for you i have backup Grin Grin Grin

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SORRY if i spend my time developing skills and applying them instead of sitting all day on forum shi##ing on other people work!!


Instead of getting an investment and getting rich you decide to ask others to participate with your strategy so that 'everyone earns more' because 'more trades means more profit'  Grin

Both of you, please stop this fight. Both of you are doing what you think is right and on one has the right to blame the other.

CryptoSparks, i think you have got the answer for which purpose this thread was opened and also i got some of my points/confusions cleared as well  Smiley,
so its better to lock it to prevent the spam.

Yes indeed, i had my answers. Any mod can close this !

I invite all people who are having fun reporting my posts right now to do their best to take down my future posts. i don't care about the past, you can have fun scrolling my 900+ post history if that what your life is up to.  Grin

See ya all on 1st September with new thread, live test account with api keys, stats and testimonials.

bobby boy i reserve a first row spot like always for you  Kiss

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August 14, 2019, 09:45:54 AM
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Yes indeed, i had my answers. Any mod can close this !

No mod will close your thread if it is active and constructive. You need to press the lock topic link on the right side bottom of the page to get the page locked.


And obviously after this thread i got hit by 15 deleted posts and i bet many more to come  Grin

I invite all people who are having fun reporting my posts right now to do their best to take down my future posts. i don't care about the past, you can have fun scrolling my 900+ post history if that what your life is up to.  Grin

These days people are reporting more maybe in anticipation of getting the badges in future (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4742257.0 )
Something needs to be done for the wrongly reported posts too so people should not misuse this feature.

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