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September 18, 2019, 11:21:41 PM
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Selling and rebuying lower is a very risky move, you don't know when it will go up and you don't know when it will go down so its as risky as holding as well.

Maybe you sold at 12 to buy again at 10 but maybe you sold at 10 and it goes to 12, you never know which one we are in right now until we actually see it happening. That is why people keep saying hold your currency unless you really need to cash out, if there is something like medical or something bill then yeah sure but if that doesn't happen then you really need to hold it because long term holding is the only guaranteed method of making money.

That's exactly how the market operates, and that is why is very hard to timing the market, you might be "catching a falling knife" here. So you could hold and if you think that time that the current price is good for you to liquidate and make a profit, then push the sell button. I don't have anything about long term holders, I myself have been holding my Bitcoin for years, but I try to be active in trading if I see some momentum and swings to get a decent profit. That's one thing that makes this market very attractive and that's why we always see new traders being born every day.


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September 19, 2019, 07:01:13 AM
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Selling and rebuying lower is a very risky move, you don't know when it will go up and you don't know when it will go down so its as risky as holding as well.

Maybe you sold at 12 to buy again at 10 but maybe you sold at 10 and it goes to 12, you never know which one we are in right now until we actually see it happening. That is why people keep saying hold your currency unless you really need to cash out, if there is something like medical or something bill then yeah sure but if that doesn't happen then you really need to hold it because long term holding is the only guaranteed method of making money.

Bitcoin is pegged at dollar right now mostly and we calculate the price on dollars all around the world but dollar loses its value every year, 100 dollars is never 100 dollars, what you can buy with it changes every single year and difference is bigger if you look at decades, so bitcoin holding for long term will eventually profit you in the end.

true but things are never that easy.
there are times in the market, when the trend is more predictable than other times. for example right now it is not so much predictable. all we know is that price is going sideways between $9500 and $11000 and unless it starts going above $12k we can't do any trades for sure.
but for instance when price first hit $12k+ if you sold there (as a short term trader not an investor) then it was a good choice then you could enter your accumulation phase where you bought incrementally between $9.5k and $10.5k and wait for the sideways to end.

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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September 19, 2019, 06:45:26 PM
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there are times in the market, when the trend is more predictable than other times. for example right now it is not so much predictable. all we know is that price is going sideways between $9500 and $11000 and unless it starts going above $12k we can't do any trades for sure.
but for instance when price first hit $12k+ if you sold there (as a short term trader not an investor) then it was a good choice then you could enter your accumulation phase where you bought incrementally between $9.5k and $10.5k and wait for the sideways to end.
You don't have to sell at 12k to make more profits during the 9k-11k period, you could just buy at 9k when it drops (whenever bitcoin drops under 10k its a prime price to buy) and then sell it when it reaches 11k whenever price goes above 10k its a good idea to sell). This may not be a long term idea but it could totally make you a decent return in the short term, that is why I always support people who trade in between trends.

It is not a big time period compared to 10 years we have been in operation for bitcoin but at least these last few months it would have been a lot profitable than any other method, how many times bitcoin reached under 10k? How many times it reached over 10k? Many many times and all of that would have accumulated a great return for everyone.
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September 19, 2019, 08:01:50 PM
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Why the fuck is bitcoin declining, any FUD new or any whales dump? Dropped now from $11k to $9k
Yesterday bitcoin drops to 9k usd again falling 600usd in just couple of hours so are you angry again!then what about if bitcoin is Inc growth are you celebrating?
Why people act this days nowadays,are those remain here are pretender to be investors?i hate it when I saw thread reacted badly just when they are about to see small decreases in prices
Can’t we give bitcoin and altcoins some time to grow good again without making this kind of weak thread?









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September 19, 2019, 11:09:03 PM
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Why the fuck is bitcoin declining, any FUD new or any whales dump? Dropped now from $11k to $9k
Yesterday bitcoin drops to 9k usd again falling 600usd in just couple of hours so are you angry again!then what about if bitcoin is Inc growth are you celebrating?
Why people act this days nowadays,are those remain here are pretender to be investors?i hate it when I saw thread reacted badly just when they are about to see small decreases in prices
Can’t we give bitcoin and altcoins some time to grow good again without making this kind of weak thread?
That was probably a bull trap and yet people starts to fall for it and now they were complaining because the price started to decline. Whales are everywhere they can do whatever they want to the market since it is open and free. I think these people are getting tired of waiting and it stresses them to wait. Roll Eyes
For several times that we are experiencing like this, I don't see this a form of another bull trap. There is another factor that brings the price into like this and that is we wanted to look by rather than of blaming directly to the whales for this drops. Whales are not in control with the market price, yes they could influence the trend but not actually they are the one causing of all ups and downs scenarios.

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September 19, 2019, 11:27:52 PM
Last edit: September 19, 2019, 11:42:02 PM by STT
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Its a small bear trap so far for today on the 1 hour bar perspective but I dont think its fully resolved just yet.    Its quite confusing short term for us to reverse immediately like this, it can be said to be repeating continually though I think there is a trend longer term.   Today  its risen from support it found previously so I guess there is alot of orders in that area and it was very briefly at 9600 for like a few minutes then most of the day near 9800 and spiking upto near the 50 day average which again I think has alot of sell orders waiting.     Hence we remain contained between buyers and sellers either end  9600 to 10400.
  I believe this is called a Doji candle and doesnt really point towards a bear or bull trap exactly.

https://commodity.com/technical-analysis/doji/

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September 20, 2019, 05:47:38 AM
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Why the fuck is bitcoin declining, any FUD new or any whales dump? Dropped now from $11k to $9k
Yesterday bitcoin drops to 9k usd again falling 600usd in just couple of hours so are you angry again!then what about if bitcoin is Inc growth are you celebrating?
Why people act this days nowadays,are those remain here are pretender to be investors?i hate it when I saw thread reacted badly just when they are about to see small decreases in prices
Can’t we give bitcoin and altcoins some time to grow good again without making this kind of weak thread?
That was probably a bull trap and yet people starts to fall for it and now they were complaining because the price started to decline. Whales are everywhere they can do whatever they want to the market since it is open and free. I think these people are getting tired of waiting and it stresses them to wait. Roll Eyes
For several times that we are experiencing like this, I don't see this a form of another bull trap. There is another factor that brings the price into like this and that is we wanted to look by rather than of blaming directly to the whales for this drops. Whales are not in control with the market price, yes they could influence the trend but not actually they are the one causing of all ups and downs scenarios.

you mean "bear trap" because it is the bears who are being slaughtered these days as they are the ones thinking the price should go down and go against the market. otherwise the bulls are accumulating in this sideways market to get ready for the launch.
as for whales, you have to remember that not all of them go in the same direction. for example the whale bears that are having their heads chopped off these days are going against the whale bulls that are eating them up. Tongue

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September 20, 2019, 07:26:19 AM
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In these situations, I think if we can make a profit, it is better to sell some bitcoin we have so we can buy back again when the price is down. This situation will be up and down again, and that is the reason why I say to sell some bitcoin because we never know when the price can increase or decrease. By buying and selling, I think we can survive in any conditions so we can have more bitcoin, more fiat to wait for the increasing of the price.
If you are comfortable playing with the market and you are willing to take the risk this situation can help you building your portfolio and allow you to generate decent profits, but if you're not ready and your knowledge is not enough better to keep your coins and forget for a while since there's also big chance to make a mistake, panic selling and losing your investment always possible to happen.

I will do that if I have enough information about what is happening in the market. I don't want to risk my money to something that I don't have info, and I will stay calm for a while. It's not recommended to push ourselves to enter the market when the market itself cannot be predicted. I think the other trader will do the same as us if they know the market is not good to trade and it is better to hold than to sell the coins.

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What in seven hells  Shocked     Clearly this market is an unnatural abomination, gonna massacre both sides short term shaking out the weak hands in speculators trying to hold or sell BTC for a quick buck.   When its finished thrashing about, then it finds a direction longer term.



I drew this trend trying to find the most common point between prices since June and it came up like this, doesnt have mean the market respects it but prices usually bare a relation to previous chart history.    I thought it looked quite bullish with it holding a line and only briefly breaking down yesterday and recovering.    See if we lose it or maintain that base.
   The really simple measure is 50 day average which is 10,500 and also we continue to have 8 day and monthly here also so I'd say negative until thats beaten but otherwise it could be building short term in order to beat that measure and attempt higher.

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September 24, 2019, 04:02:49 PM
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I think that the news of Google creating a quantum computer will increase the fall of Bitcoin. And the price of Bitcoin will be 8000-9000 dollars.
Those computers will not be available for the masses for a long time and unless Google will use it to mine cryptocurrencies, i do not see any relation between it and bitcoin or others cryptocurrencies prices.

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