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August 16, 2019, 02:27:55 AM
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Random information out of left field, but I don't think the White House has commented on it.

Trump is thinking about purchasing Greenland. He's been floating the idea with WH legal counsel, and different aides in the WH to see if this is something he can do. Unknown on if he is really seriousness about this, but it's something that has without a doubt been talked about.

Unknown on why: Past the fact that Greenland has a large amount of natural resources, but I can't see something like this actually coming to fruition. I'd love to see what people think about this.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-eyes-a-new-real-estate-purchase-greenland-11565904223




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August 16, 2019, 06:52:36 AM
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Random information out of left field, but I don't think the White House has commented on it.

Trump is thinking about purchasing Greenland. He's been floating the idea with WH legal counsel, and different aides in the WH to see if this is something he can do. Unknown on if he is really seriousness about this, but it's something that has without a doubt been talked about.

Unknown on why: Past the fact that Greenland has a large amount of natural resources, but I can't see something like this actually coming to fruition. I'd love to see what people think about this.

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Whether it is a serious idea or not, i highly doubt that will ever happen.

Then again, it's nothing that hasn't happened before in the past, like when United States bought Alaska from Russian Empire for  merely 7.2 million USD back in 1867. It was brilliant move.

But Denmark is serious and  developed country (top 10 country by GDP per capita) and they are not as shortsighted as Russians, so no way that they would do that and sell territory with such a potential.
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August 16, 2019, 07:58:05 AM
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It will be a great achievement if that really happens and I can't doubt the possibility. If Trump and indeed USA is serious about the deal, there are many leverages to use against Denmark and force them to sell. And we really hope that happens.

Some still feel some form of regret knowing America once had genuine chance at making Canada part of the USA but failed. Canada would have been better off being part of the United States than standing alone. Same with Mexico.  Grin Grin Grin

So many people envisages a time when Maxico, Canada, and Greenland would become part of the United States of America. Russia and China would then have nothing to brag about in terms of land mass.
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August 16, 2019, 11:24:46 AM
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It was recently that I found out Greenland does not actually belong to the USA. It will be a great achievement if that really happens and I can't doubt the possibility. If Trump and indeed USA is serious about the deal, there are many leverages to use against Denmark and force them to sell. And I really hope that happens.

I still feel some form of regret knowing we once had genuine change at making Canada part of the USA but failed. Canada would have been better off being part of the United States than standing alone. Same with Mexico.  Grin Grin Grin

I envisage a scenario and time when Maxico, Canada, and Greenland would become part of the United States of America. Russia and China would have nothing to brag about in terms of land mass.

This post was off to a bad start, but really came around in the middle section, and then by the end it reached the status of good post.

I for one think it would be a great idea for similar reasons its good to have Alaska: strategically and resource-wise. Its sounds cold as fuck over there but maybe after a few decades of global warming more of it will seem pretty inhabitable.

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August 16, 2019, 02:46:36 PM
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It was recently that I found out Greenland does not actually belong to the USA. It will be a great achievement if that really happens and I can't doubt the possibility. If Trump and indeed USA is serious about the deal, there are many leverages to use against Denmark and force them to sell. And I really hope that happens.

I still feel some form of regret knowing we once had genuine change at making Canada part of the USA but failed. Canada would have been better off being part of the United States than standing alone. Same with Mexico.  Grin Grin Grin

I envisage a scenario and time when Maxico, Canada, and Greenland would become part of the United States of America. Russia and China would have nothing to brag about in terms of land mass.

Without a doubt one of the better funny comments I've seen on here. Major respect for this.

But yeah, we all know this sort of thing has a negative 0 percent chance of actually happening. But it's something to think about, as we haven't seen the legal boundaries presented by a state purchasing land from another state (that already has legal inhabitants, businesses, their own laws, etc) Interesting.




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'Oh please God no': Greenland reacts with horror at Trump plan to buy island | The Independent

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August 16, 2019, 04:17:39 PM
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It was recently that I found out Greenland does not actually belong to the USA. It will be a great achievement if that really happens and I can't doubt the possibility. If Trump and indeed USA is serious about the deal, there are many leverages to use against Denmark and force them to sell. And I really hope that happens.

I still feel some form of regret knowing we once had genuine change at making Canada part of the USA but failed. Canada would have been better off being part of the United States than standing alone. Same with Mexico.  Grin Grin Grin

I envisage a scenario and time when Maxico, Canada, and Greenland would become part of the United States of America. Russia and China would have nothing to brag about in terms of land mass.

Without a doubt one of the better funny comments I've seen on here. Major respect for this.

But yeah, we all know this sort of thing has a negative 0 percent chance of actually happening. But it's something to think about, as we haven't seen the legal boundaries presented by a state purchasing land from another state (that already has legal inhabitants, businesses, their own laws, etc) Interesting.

Well, there's zero percent chance because no president has ever thought about it in recent times. Most Canadians sees themselves more as Americans and would vote in any referendum to become the USA.
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It was recently that I found out Greenland does not actually belong to the USA. It will be a great achievement if that really happens and I can't doubt the possibility. If Trump and indeed USA is serious about the deal, there are many leverages to use against Denmark and force them to sell. And I really hope that happens.

I still feel some form of regret knowing we once had genuine change at making Canada part of the USA but failed. Canada would have been better off being part of the United States than standing alone. Same with Mexico.  Grin Grin Grin

I envisage a scenario and time when Maxico, Canada, and Greenland would become part of the United States of America. Russia and China would have nothing to brag about in terms of land mass.

Without a doubt one of the better funny comments I've seen on here. Major respect for this.

But yeah, we all know this sort of thing has a negative 0 percent chance of actually happening. But it's something to think about, as we haven't seen the legal boundaries presented by a state purchasing land from another state (that already has legal inhabitants, businesses, their own laws, etc) Interesting.

Well, there's zero percent chance because no president has ever thought about it in recent times. Most Canadians sees themselves more as Americans and would vote in any referendum to become the USA.

There is zero percent chance of that happening not because no one thought about it, but because Denmark would never sell it.It is one of the most developed country in the world with with extremely high quality of living( by  most lists they are on the top or in a top few) so rest assured they are not  shortsighted idiots that would sell something like that.
Also keep in mind that Denmark is in NATO since 1949 and US ally since 1941 when they signed treaty with US and authorized them to defend  Greenland against Germany.
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August 17, 2019, 12:17:03 PM
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I don't know if he's serious but other powers are definitely going to try to sabotage this even if Denmark is willing to sell. It is actually a pretty good move though. The seas are warming and within a few decades we'd have an Arctic that is navigable even during winter.

Having bases in Greenland would be a good check against Russia, which would no longer be as restricted navy-wise like it is today (one reason for annexing Crimea is access to a warm sea port). China is also expected to take advantage of an all-season Northwest Passage for shipping to the Americas and the US controlling Greenland would give them the capacity to choke these trade routes if needed.

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Random information out of left field, but I don't think the White House has commented on it.

Trump is thinking about purchasing Greenland. He's been floating the idea with WH legal counsel, and different aides in the WH to see if this is something he can do. Unknown on if he is really seriousness about this, but it's something that has without a doubt been talked about.

Unknown on why: Past the fact that Greenland has a large amount of natural resources, but I can't see something like this actually coming to fruition. I'd love to see what people think about this.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-eyes-a-new-real-estate-purchase-greenland-11565904223

I don't know if he's serious but other powers are definitely going to try to sabotage this even if Denmark is willing to sell. It is actually a pretty good move though. The seas are warming and within a few decades we'd have an Arctic that is navigable even during winter.

Having bases in Greenland would be a good check against Russia, which would no longer be as restricted navy-wise like it is today (one reason for annexing Crimea is access to a warm sea port). China is also expected to take advantage of an all-season Northwest Passage for shipping to the Americas and the US controlling Greenland would give them the capacity to choke these trade routes if needed.

When it comes to Trump I wouldn’t be surprised if he was able to buy Greenland, as he has done lots of things which were impossible to achieve eg: winning US presidency elections, the first US president to walk on North Korean soil etc. Then again this move could be made to send a message to China, that if required US will buy Greenland and use it’s resources rather than bend it knee to China for it’s resources. According to this article US has made attempts to buy Greenland in the past too but they failed, and it’s pertinent to note that Trump is visiting Denmark next month it’ll be interesting if he makes an offers to buy Greenland.

Article: https://qz.com/1689017/trumps-idea-of-buying-greenland-is-not-that-crazy/

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August 17, 2019, 01:28:07 PM
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I don't know if he's serious but other powers are definitely going to try to sabotage this even if Denmark is willing to sell. It is actually a pretty good move though. The seas are warming and within a few decades we'd have an Arctic that is navigable even during winter.

Having bases in Greenland would be a good check against Russia, which would no longer be as restricted navy-wise like it is today (one reason for annexing Crimea is access to a warm sea port). China is also expected to take advantage of an all-season Northwest Passage for shipping to the Americas and the US controlling Greenland would give them the capacity to choke these trade routes if needed.

United States already have base on Greenland, it is there since 1943, Thule Air Base
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I don't know if he's serious but other powers are definitely going to try to sabotage this even if Denmark is willing to sell. It is actually a pretty good move though. The seas are warming and within a few decades we'd have an Arctic that is navigable even during winter.

Having bases in Greenland would be a good check against Russia, which would no longer be as restricted navy-wise like it is today (one reason for annexing Crimea is access to a warm sea port). China is also expected to take advantage of an all-season Northwest Passage for shipping to the Americas and the US controlling Greenland would give them the capacity to choke these trade routes if needed.

If USA is going to do it, it must be through high level negotiations. Nothing is impossible nor beyond reach for the world super-power. All it will take is the use of leverages against Denmark, and at the same time, offer them good incentives. In the end, it'll come down to referendum where the Greenland citizens may be asked to choose between becoming part of the United States of America or remain as Denmark territory. There's absolutely no question which direction the citizens will choose.

With good offers, Denmark will have nothing to loose selling a vast expanse of empty land they probably may never make solid use of in the next 1000 years. Not as if they are going to become some sort of world power some day in the future and begin to build military bases all over the world like the USA.

If I am part of the White House Team, I will really give it a push before the world becomes even wiser than they are now. Russia would never sell Alaska for 10Trillion if it well to be now. But we got at a mere $8million USD. We can do the same with Greenland before it becomes too late.

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August 18, 2019, 02:25:38 AM
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This purchase would give the USA considerably more claim and leverage over the newly exposed natural resources in the Arctic. These claims might be hard for Denmark or Greenland to independently negotiate for and defend, however with the backing of the military might of the US, some kind of share agreement might be maximally beneficial for both parties. It will be somewhat of a hard sell to the native population. I know I wouldn't like it if my nation were sold to another, but if it means more domestic resources, infrastructure, jobs, and government benefits they might see past nationalism.

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August 18, 2019, 03:07:51 AM
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This purchase would give the USA considerably more claim and leverage over the newly exposed natural resources in the Arctic. These claims might be hard for Denmark or Greenland to independently negotiate for and defend, however with the backing of the military might of the US, some kind of share agreement might be maximally beneficial for both parties. It will be somewhat of a hard sell to the native population. I know I wouldn't like it if my nation were sold to another, but if it means more domestic resources, infrastructure, jobs, and government benefits they might see past nationalism.

Free MAGA hats for Greenlanders?
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August 18, 2019, 08:38:28 PM
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This purchase would give the USA considerably more claim and leverage over the newly exposed natural resources in the Arctic. These claims might be hard for Denmark or Greenland to independently negotiate for and defend, however with the backing of the military might of the US, some kind of share agreement might be maximally beneficial for both parties. It will be somewhat of a hard sell to the native population. I know I wouldn't like it if my nation were sold to another, but if it means more domestic resources, infrastructure, jobs, and government benefits they might see past nationalism.

Free MAGA hats for Greenlanders?

No. I'm sure Trump (and the US) would be happy to give one million $ to each Greenlander so that it could become the 51st state.

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August 18, 2019, 09:37:53 PM
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At first this maybe sounds like a joke or almost impossible thing to do, but when you think about it, it is great idea as United States did similar things before, buying territories from other countries.

In 1805 United States bought Lousiana for $15M from France

In 1867 United States bought Alaska for $7.2M from Russia

In 1917 United States bought Virgin Islands from Denmark for $25 M

In 1946 Harry Truman tried buying Greenland, but that time Denmark didn't accept the offer.


So as we can see, this is perfectly reasonable and smart move by Trump, if he manages to pull this off he will be remembered as one of the most successful presidents in history.




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August 18, 2019, 10:30:02 PM
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And to do it, all Trump needs to do is make sure that the Greenland politicians responsible for the transfer, get paid enough under the table.

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August 19, 2019, 05:20:39 AM
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total nonsense. why in the hell danish citizens would want to become US citizens?  Grin and worse, under trump government? masochism?

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August 19, 2019, 06:46:20 AM
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total nonsense. why in the hell danish citizens would want to become US citizens?  Grin and worse, under trump government? masochism?

Because even though they have Danish citizenship, huge majority  don't consider themselves being Danish.Something like 90% of the Greenland population belongs to indigenous people, Greenlandic Inuit. And being part of the United States can only make them  more prosperous than they are now, considering Greenland is abundant in minerals.In the long run they can only profit from being part of US.

Ask indigenous people in Alaska would they rather  be part of Russia, instead United States.

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August 19, 2019, 07:44:00 AM
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Something like 90% of the Greenland population belongs to indigenous people

just like the early US population? if they learn from history... better stay away

Greenland is abundant in minerals.

ofc, that's what really matters. stuff, not the people.

Ask indigenous people in Alaska would they rather  be part of Russia, instead United States.

ask if they would like to be part of Denmark.

if he manages to pull this off he will be remembered as one of the most successful presidents in history.

that would make Merica Great




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