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June 28, 2021, 08:58:49 PM
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Depay did not have a good Euro and it would be difficult for him to adapt to Barcelona tactics. Aguero has a bit similar style of Suarez but he has never played well with Messi in Arghentina. Connect them in the attacking spicy-food will be a challenge for Koeman. Internal problems might occur from Griezman if he stays in Camp Nou.

I think Barcelona have enough transfers for the attacking field and wish to see their transfers to improve their defense system. They need to have two good central defenders. Pique and Lenglet have their personal issues and are not good enough for Barcelona.
Good defenders are quite expensive and Barcelona is in financial trouble right now. It is unlikely that the team can be seriously strengthened. So I think next season we will see a weak play of both Barcelona and Real Madrid. he has the same
Not really, I mean defenders even at the best do not go over 100 million as far as I know (maybe I am wrong) yet I have seen so many players sold over 100 million because they are offensive players, and even better yet now there are even more in the talks, Kane and Haaland are in talks to be over 100+ very easily as well. I am not saying defenders are cheap, all I am saying is it is easier to get a good price for a good offensive player whereas it is not that easy to get that money for a defender.

The greatest defender in the world right now versus not so great offensive player worths around the same. Like VVD is the best defender in my mind (not saying he is, just according to me, you may think someone else) and he worths as much as Sancho and Sancho worths half of what Haaland worths. See the difference? That is why defenders do not really worth the same.

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June 28, 2021, 10:30:57 PM
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Not really, I mean defenders even at the best do not go over 100 million as far as I know (maybe I am wrong) yet I have seen so many players sold over 100 million because they are offensive players, and even better yet now there are even more in the talks, Kane and Haaland are in talks to be over 100+ very easily as well. I am not saying defenders are cheap, all I am saying is it is easier to get a good price for a good offensive player whereas it is not that easy to get that money for a defender.
The greatest defender in the world right now versus not so great offensive player worths around the same. Like VVD is the best defender in my mind (not saying he is, just according to me, you may think someone else) and he worths as much as Sancho and Sancho worths half of what Haaland worths. See the difference? That is why defenders do not really worth the same.
The fact that good defenders are cheaper than good strikers seems to make it easier to find and buy a good defender for a club like Barcelona? Indeed, for a long time it has been customary that defenders are cheaper than good strikers or midfielders, and this has its own logic. Because a good defender is mostly a destroyer, while good midfielders and forwards should be players with non-standard thinking who should create scoring situations and score goals. And as you know, it is always easier to destroy than to create.
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June 29, 2021, 02:26:34 AM
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Not really, I mean defenders even at the best do not go over 100 million as far as I know (maybe I am wrong) yet I have seen so many players sold over 100 million because they are offensive players, and even better yet now there are even more in the talks, Kane and Haaland are in talks to be over 100+ very easily as well. I am not saying defenders are cheap, all I am saying is it is easier to get a good price for a good offensive player whereas it is not that easy to get that money for a defender.

The greatest defender in the world right now versus not so great offensive player worths around the same. Like VVD is the best defender in my mind (not saying he is, just according to me, you may think someone else) and he worths as much as Sancho and Sancho worths half of what Haaland worths. See the difference? That is why defenders do not really worth the same.
Attacking players always have higher price than defensive players. Always. The transfer market need many more years to see a goal keeper or a defender who has transfer cost more than $100 M. There will be defensive players have that cost but not now, not in near future.

The pandemic brings crisis to many clubs and affect their balance sheets and it will prevent the inflationary price of soccer players. With the general downside on the market, defensive players will not have chance to hit $100 M.

The only hope for you is the fiat inflation keeps exploding more and more.

You're right, aside from the problem I think Pique is getting old, it's about time they looked for a replacement alternative. After all, age will eat up his physical strength, experience will not be enough to withstand the opponent's fast attacks and fast runners. I've read that they are interested in Alessio Romagnoli from Milan, Lisandro Martinez from Ajax. But do they still have enough money to line Pique? They are said to be having a hard time with money.
AC Milan won't let Romagnoli go too easily because he is the captain and a leader of their defense system. AC Milan need Romagnoli to have stability for their defense system that is basement to fight for titles.

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June 29, 2021, 08:43:13 AM
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Depay did not have a good Euro and it would be difficult for him to adapt to Barcelona tactics. Aguero has a bit similar style of Suarez but he has never played well with Messi in Arghentina. Connect them in the attacking spicy-food will be a challenge for Koeman. Internal problems might occur from Griezman if he stays in Camp Nou.

I think Barcelona have enough transfers for the attacking field and wish to see their transfers to improve their defense system. They need to have two good central defenders. Pique and Lenglet have their personal issues and are not good enough for Barcelona.
Good defenders are quite expensive and Barcelona is in financial trouble right now. It is unlikely that the team can be seriously strengthened. So I think next season we will see a weak play of both Barcelona and Real Madrid. he has the same
Not really, I mean defenders even at the best do not go over 100 million as far as I know (maybe I am wrong) yet I have seen so many players sold over 100 million because they are offensive players, and even better yet now there are even more in the talks, Kane and Haaland are in talks to be over 100+ very easily as well. I am not saying defenders are cheap, all I am saying is it is easier to get a good price for a good offensive player whereas it is not that easy to get that money for a defender.

The greatest defender in the world right now versus not so great offensive player worths around the same. Like VVD is the best defender in my mind (not saying he is, just according to me, you may think someone else) and he worths as much as Sancho and Sancho worths half of what Haaland worths. See the difference? That is why defenders do not really worth the same.
You are right that defenders are less valued than attackers. Although there are fewer good defenders than attackers. In any case, it is problematic to buy a defender now. Clubs are not willing to sell them, and those who are on the market are unlikely to be better than those who are in the club.
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June 29, 2021, 04:49:22 PM
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Depay did not have a good Euro and it would be difficult for him to adapt to Barcelona tactics. Aguero has a bit similar style of Suarez but he has never played well with Messi in Arghentina. Connect them in the attacking spicy-food will be a challenge for Koeman. Internal problems might occur from Griezman if he stays in Camp Nou.

I think Barcelona have enough transfers for the attacking field and wish to see their transfers to improve their defense system. They need to have two good central defenders. Pique and Lenglet have their personal issues and are not good enough for Barcelona.
Good defenders are quite expensive and Barcelona is in financial trouble right now. It is unlikely that the team can be seriously strengthened. So I think next season we will see a weak play of both Barcelona and Real Madrid. he has the same
Not really, I mean defenders even at the best do not go over 100 million as far as I know (maybe I am wrong) yet I have seen so many players sold over 100 million because they are offensive players, and even better yet now there are even more in the talks, Kane and Haaland are in talks to be over 100+ very easily as well. I am not saying defenders are cheap, all I am saying is it is easier to get a good price for a good offensive player whereas it is not that easy to get that money for a defender.

The greatest defender in the world right now versus not so great offensive player worths around the same. Like VVD is the best defender in my mind (not saying he is, just according to me, you may think someone else) and he worths as much as Sancho and Sancho worths half of what Haaland worths. See the difference? That is why defenders do not really worth the same.
You are right that defenders are less valued than attackers. Although there are fewer good defenders than attackers. In any case, it is problematic to buy a defender now. Clubs are not willing to sell them, and those who are on the market are unlikely to be better than those who are in the club.

There are very few good and experienced defenders. It can be seen that all the teams try to strengthen their attacking lineup but do not look properly at their defense. Attacking lineup from teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid are very strong but the defense is not very strong. Real's defense has weakened since Ramos left Real Madrid.

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June 29, 2021, 09:09:47 PM
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The fact that good defenders are cheaper than good strikers seems to make it easier to find and buy a good defender for a club like Barcelona? Indeed, for a long time it has been customary that defenders are cheaper than good strikers or midfielders, and this has its own logic. Because a good defender is mostly a destroyer, while good midfielders and forwards should be players with non-standard thinking who should create scoring situations and score goals. And as you know, it is always easier to destroy than to create.
Yes...but no. When you have a good defender and he doesn't worth too much when you sell them, it is rare that you would end up selling them, because let's face it there are not that many players who would be sold that easily for 40-50 million when they are one of the best in their positions, so why sell them when you can just sell a mediocre offensive player instead to get that money. What are the exceptions? Well there are teams who happen to find a good gem of a defensive player and could sell them, if you are not a great team going for a high position and you get an offer, you take it because it is rare for you to find that player.

However it is not easy for high level teams to keep finding those gems, which means they will have to either take a risk with a young star potential player, or they will have to convince a star at an already good club, which is very hard. Still not a lot of money in play at both possibilities, just not easy to convince VVD to leave Liverpool and join Barcelona you know? That type of deal.

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June 30, 2021, 08:42:46 AM
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There are very few good and experienced defenders. It can be seen that all the teams try to strengthen their attacking lineup but do not look properly at their defense. Attacking lineup from teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid are very strong but the defense is not very strong. Real's defense has weakened since Ramos left Real Madrid.

Has Real Madrid bought someone, as a replacement for Ramos? I did not see any news related to this. If they don't buy, the next season will be a nightmare for them. They will not be able to win any title next season. Because the team's forwards relied entirely on Benzema, and the defense relied on Ramos.

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June 30, 2021, 08:57:49 AM
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Has Real Madrid bought someone, as a replacement for Ramos? I did not see any news related to this. If they don't buy, the next season will be a nightmare for them. They will not be able to win any title next season. Because the team's forwards relied entirely on Benzema, and the defense relied on Ramos.

There is no definite target from Real Madrid yet, but based on the news I've read, Madrid will be eyeing Pau Torres. a young players, but have a potential, of course this is very good for Real Madrid as they look for a long-term defender option as a replacement for Sergio Ramos. However, there is no further news regarding this rumor.

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June 30, 2021, 01:34:53 PM
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Has Real Madrid bought someone, as a replacement for Ramos? I did not see any news related to this. If they don't buy, the next season will be a nightmare for them. They will not be able to win any title next season. Because the team's forwards relied entirely on Benzema, and the defense relied on Ramos.

There is no definite target from Real Madrid yet, but based on the news I've read, Madrid will be eyeing Pau Torres. a young players, but have a potential, of course this is very good for Real Madrid as they look for a long-term defender option as a replacement for Sergio Ramos. However, there is no further news regarding this rumor.

If Pau Torres joins Real Madrid, it will be good for Real Madrid's future. He is still young, he will be able to stay in the Real Madrid team for many years. And no club wants to change defenders every year. Clubs change forwards and midfield but keep the defense unchanged. For this, they should be included in the team of young defenders.

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June 30, 2021, 06:20:54 PM
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Has Real Madrid bought someone, as a replacement for Ramos? I did not see any news related to this. If they don't buy, the next season will be a nightmare for them. They will not be able to win any title next season. Because the team's forwards relied entirely on Benzema, and the defense relied on Ramos.

There is no definite target from Real Madrid yet, but based on the news I've read, Madrid will be eyeing Pau Torres. a young players, but have a potential, of course this is very good for Real Madrid as they look for a long-term defender option as a replacement for Sergio Ramos. However, there is no further news regarding this rumor.

If Pau Torres joins Real Madrid, it will be good for Real Madrid's future. He is still young, he will be able to stay in the Real Madrid team for many years. And no club wants to change defenders every year. Clubs change forwards and midfield but keep the defense unchanged. For this, they should be included in the team of young defenders.
But unfortunately, according to the news I read from one of the existing sources, the fact is that Manchester United are also eyeing Pau Torres. That way, if Madrid want to bring him to the Santiago Bernabeu then of course there will be price competition there, but there should be no problem about the price for these two big teams. Well I'm just looking forward to it and besides, after Madrid called Carlo Ancelotti again I'm personally not so sure Ancelotti can give his best in his first season but yes, anything can still happen and Madrid can definitely stay on the title track.

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June 30, 2021, 06:33:24 PM
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Has Real Madrid bought someone, as a replacement for Ramos? I did not see any news related to this. If they don't buy, the next season will be a nightmare for them. They will not be able to win any title next season. Because the team's forwards relied entirely on Benzema, and the defense relied on Ramos.

There is no definite target from Real Madrid yet, but based on the news I've read, Madrid will be eyeing Pau Torres. a young players, but have a potential, of course this is very good for Real Madrid as they look for a long-term defender option as a replacement for Sergio Ramos. However, there is no further news regarding this rumor.

If Pau Torres joins Real Madrid, it will be good for Real Madrid's future. He is still young, he will be able to stay in the Real Madrid team for many years. And no club wants to change defenders every year. Clubs change forwards and midfield but keep the defense unchanged. For this, they should be included in the team of young defenders.
But unfortunately, according to the news I read from one of the existing sources, the fact is that Manchester United are also eyeing Pau Torres. That way, if Madrid want to bring him to the Santiago Bernabeu then of course there will be price competition there, but there should be no problem about the price for these two big teams. Well I'm just looking forward to it and besides, after Madrid called Carlo Ancelotti again I'm personally not so sure Ancelotti can give his best in his first season but yes, anything can still happen and Madrid can definitely stay on the title track.

As silly as it may seem, some players would take into consideration things that may be overlooked by normal people. Like the fact that the UK is mostly a shitty place to live during 5 months a year. Rain, cold, not many hours of light and a bunch of people that pretend that other do not exist. Seriously, if I were a player, I would request a big premium to settle in the UK and to play for any British team. Perhaps that explains why the Spanish league has great players even in small teams  Grin

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June 30, 2021, 06:36:35 PM
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There are very few good and experienced defenders. It can be seen that all the teams try to strengthen their attacking lineup but do not look properly at their defense. Attacking lineup from teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid are very strong but the defense is not very strong. Real's defense has weakened since Ramos left Real Madrid.

Has Real Madrid bought someone, as a replacement for Ramos? I did not see any news related to this. If they don't buy, the next season will be a nightmare for them. They will not be able to win any title next season. Because the team's forwards relied entirely on Benzema, and the defense relied on Ramos.

I also didn't hear about Real Madrid buying someone to fill Ramos' place. But I'm very sure that they will make the necessary transfer for the position. And they must do it. After Ramos is released, there are going to be Varane, Militao, Nacho and Vallejo as centre-backs. I can't say that Nacho and Vallejo are the best alternatives. And they should even make a top defender transfer I think. It would help the competition between the defenders increase also.

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June 30, 2021, 06:43:37 PM
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Has Real Madrid bought someone, as a replacement for Ramos? I did not see any news related to this. If they don't buy, the next season will be a nightmare for them. They will not be able to win any title next season. Because the team's forwards relied entirely on Benzema, and the defense relied on Ramos.

There is no definite target from Real Madrid yet, but based on the news I've read, Madrid will be eyeing Pau Torres. a young players, but have a potential, of course this is very good for Real Madrid as they look for a long-term defender option as a replacement for Sergio Ramos. However, there is no further news regarding this rumor.

If Pau Torres joins Real Madrid, it will be good for Real Madrid's future. He is still young, he will be able to stay in the Real Madrid team for many years. And no club wants to change defenders every year. Clubs change forwards and midfield but keep the defense unchanged. For this, they should be included in the team of young defenders.
But unfortunately, according to the news I read from one of the existing sources, the fact is that Manchester United are also eyeing Pau Torres. That way, if Madrid want to bring him to the Santiago Bernabeu then of course there will be price competition there, but there should be no problem about the price for these two big teams. Well I'm just looking forward to it and besides, after Madrid called Carlo Ancelotti again I'm personally not so sure Ancelotti can give his best in his first season but yes, anything can still happen and Madrid can definitely stay on the title track.

Being a new player and surviving in the Spanish team will be tough for Pau if he makes even a small mistake while he is on the team. But I think he will be in Real Madrid if they are eyeing this player. Though I feel for him it is better to play with Manchester United if they are able to buy him.
Madrid with so much changes seems to be in a little distress but I hope the same about them being on the track.

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June 30, 2021, 08:43:48 PM
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There is no definite target from Real Madrid yet, but based on the news I've read, Madrid will be eyeing Pau Torres. a young players, but have a potential, of course this is very good for Real Madrid as they look for a long-term defender option as a replacement for Sergio Ramos. However, there is no further news regarding this rumor.
The even bigger news is that there is a talk about Varane possibly leaving, it is not sure yet and Real is trying to keep him at all costs because they do not want to lose two defenders at the same off-season which would make things harder, but Varane does want out, that much is known, yet he can't just walk out considering he needs to find another team to get him.

On the rebound of Ramos deal, Real Madrid is in talks with Leicester, the biggest talk is Wesley Fofana, that is what people are expecting to come out as big news soon, but we just know for sure they are in talks with Leicester it is that much, by all means it could be for any player in Leicester, but we all know they need a defender so it is either Fofana 90% chance, or there is a chance they may go big and buy Caglar Soyuncu who has been amazing at Leicester for few seasons now and worths around the same as Fofana. We also know they got Alaba as well, so that is not a bad deal already.
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July 01, 2021, 03:52:47 AM
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Being a new player and surviving in the Spanish team will be tough for Pau if he makes even a small mistake while he is on the team. But I think he will be in Real Madrid if they are eyeing this player. Though I feel for him it is better to play with Manchester United if they are able to buy him.
Madrid with so much changes seems to be in a little distress but I hope the same about them being on the track.

Remember Barcelona's performance to start this season? Very poor performance, almost a broken team. But Koeman has slowly put the team in good shape and now the Barcelona team seems stable enough. Real Madrid's team has undergone a lot of key changes, so it will take some time for the team to stabilize.

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July 01, 2021, 05:59:51 AM
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Being a new player and surviving in the Spanish team will be tough for Pau if he makes even a small mistake while he is on the team. But I think he will be in Real Madrid if they are eyeing this player. Though I feel for him it is better to play with Manchester United if they are able to buy him.
Madrid with so much changes seems to be in a little distress but I hope the same about them being on the track.

Remember Barcelona's performance to start this season? Very poor performance, almost a broken team. But Koeman has slowly put the team in good shape and now the Barcelona team seems stable enough. Real Madrid's team has undergone a lot of key changes, so it will take some time for the team to stabilize.

Koeman has done his job properly. He is a great coach. Will Real Madrid's new coach Carlo Ancelotti be able to stabilize Real Madrid very quickly? Real Madrid's forward has not changed. In the next season they will also depend on Benjama. Ramos is not in the squad, looking forward to seeing how Real Madrid will fill this gap.

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You are right that defenders are less valued than attackers. Although there are fewer good defenders than attackers. In any case, it is problematic to buy a defender now. Clubs are not willing to sell them, and those who are on the market are unlikely to be better than those who are in the club.
Look how much money Manchester City and Guardiola spent on the defenders, it's hard to say that the attackers are more expensive than the defenders. And you are right when you say that the value of good defenders is that there are few of them, while there are much more attackers.

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July 01, 2021, 08:48:05 AM
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I also didn't hear about Real Madrid buying someone to fill Ramos' place. But I'm very sure that they will make the necessary transfer for the position. And they must do it. After Ramos is released, there are going to be Varane, Militao, Nacho and Vallejo as centre-backs. I can't say that Nacho and Vallejo are the best alternatives. And they should even make a top defender transfer I think. It would help the competition between the defenders increase also.
Real Madrid movement in the transfer market this season is really quite slow compared to Barcelona who have managed to sign several players so far, I think that currently Real Madrid do not yet have a target player who will later fill the position vacated by Ramos, But according to the news  if Real Madrid plan to sell some of their players first before bringing in new players, the players currently in the Real Madrid sell list are Brahim Diaz, Dani Ceballos and Luka Jovic, and the proceeds from the sale of these players are expected to be able to make up for Madrid lack of funds to bring in new players for central defender, attacking midfielder and striker.

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July 01, 2021, 10:05:06 AM
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Being a new player and surviving in the Spanish team will be tough for Pau if he makes even a small mistake while he is on the team. But I think he will be in Real Madrid if they are eyeing this player. Though I feel for him it is better to play with Manchester United if they are able to buy him.
Madrid with so much changes seems to be in a little distress but I hope the same about them being on the track.

Remember Barcelona's performance to start this season? Very poor performance, almost a broken team. But Koeman has slowly put the team in good shape and now the Barcelona team seems stable enough. Real Madrid's team has undergone a lot of key changes, so it will take some time for the team to stabilize.

Koeman has done his job properly. He is a great coach. Will Real Madrid's new coach Carlo Ancelotti be able to stabilize Real Madrid very quickly? Real Madrid's forward has not changed. In the next season they will also depend on Benjama. Ramos is not in the squad, looking forward to seeing how Real Madrid will fill this gap.

It takes a lot of time to stabilize a new team. It also takes time for the players to adapt to the new coach. Moreover, the replacement of Sergio Ramos is not possible. Ramos is deeply involved with Real Madrid. He has been with Real Madrid for almost 16 years. Moreover, Real Madrid will not get an experienced and talented defender like him now

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July 01, 2021, 10:38:02 AM
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I also didn't hear about Real Madrid buying someone to fill Ramos' place. But I'm very sure that they will make the necessary transfer for the position. And they must do it. After Ramos is released, there are going to be Varane, Militao, Nacho and Vallejo as centre-backs. I can't say that Nacho and Vallejo are the best alternatives. And they should even make a top defender transfer I think. It would help the competition between the defenders increase also.
Real Madrid movement in the transfer market this season is really quite slow compared to Barcelona who have managed to sign several players so far, I think that currently Real Madrid do not yet have a target player who will later fill the position vacated by Ramos, But according to the news  if Real Madrid plan to sell some of their players first before bringing in new players, the players currently in the Real Madrid sell list are Brahim Diaz, Dani Ceballos and Luka Jovic, and the proceeds from the sale of these players are expected to be able to make up for Madrid lack of funds to bring in new players for central defender, attacking midfielder and striker.


Yeah they are moving really slowly. Maybe they don't want to rush things and be regretful for the transfer they will make. And maybe they are waiting for Euro 2020 to end. They may have some targets playing at national teams in this tournament right now. They may be monitoring their performance. There are so many maybes, I know.  Grin  But it is not easy to predict their actions. I hope that they sign a player who can really strengthen their defense line.

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