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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
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October 14, 2021, 04:30:00 PM
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That is true. Barcelona does have the players to at least finish top 4 in the league. At the start of the season, many key players were out due to injury. Now that most of them, especially Aguero are back we can be optimistic of them doing good. What they need to do now is leave behind the dependency they had on Messi and try to play as a team and since they have some really quality players like Depay, Aguero, Pedri, and so many more, finishing top 4 should not be that tough of a challenge for them once they get the team chemistry right.

next two matches will be very important for Koeman because losing points may cost him the job of head coach. La Liga match vs Valencia and Champions League match vs Dynamo Kyiv will define his future.

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October 14, 2021, 04:36:04 PM
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So far, anceloti still has a good relationship with the real madrid squad and also madrid management, so it's unlikely that madrid will sack carlo anceloti before his contract expires.
You are wrong if you think that a weak defense is a trivial thing, because a strong defense is a very important factor for a club to stay on the winning path, you can see today if madrid has an imbalance in their game, madrid often scores goals, but also often conceded a lot of goals from opponents and of course it's very dangerous if later they are against a team that has a pretty dangerous attack line.

Firing Anceloti right now is too early. Madrid is still good so far. Madrid is also better than Barcelona. There is no reason to sack him in his current condition, maybe at the end of the season maybe they will evaluate it. He's a pretty good coach, he's been with Madrid before. Madrid's results so far cannot be a benchmark for Anceloti, there are still many matches to be played. Hopefully Anceloti will give Madrid at least 1 title then he will be safe as a coach.
I agree with you, at the moment with the players available, Ancelotti can start his second spell at Real Madrid well, and he won five of their first six games, and that's why I think it's impossible for Real Madrid to sack Anceloti before his contract expires.
So far, in my opinion, Anceloti's ability to formulate strategies and maximize existing players to undergo a busy match schedule thats makes Real Madrid management really trust him, moreover Real Madrid management is aware that they didn't give a lot of money in the transfer market yesterday, so don't blame ancelotti if at this time Real Madrid defense is a little weak Grin.

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October 14, 2021, 04:44:49 PM
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barcelona is a very weak team, not understanding why they are putting an odd of @1.56 in my opinion, they should have put an odd of @2.00 because there is a big chance that barcelona will lose, it's not like in the past where barcelona was strong and favorite in all games, today they are not doing well, but whenever they play against weak teams they keep putting low odds in their favor like they are a big winning team, i wonder why they have such low odds in their favor when they are losers?

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October 14, 2021, 04:59:39 PM
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One of the top teams in the league, Sevilla are going to play against Celta Vigo away in their next game. Sevilla are one of the lowest conceding teams in the La Liga now. And they are only three points away from the leader Real Madrid. Sevilla didn't get a win in their last two official games before the national break. They lost to Granada by 1-0 and drew with Wolfsburg by 1-1. They need a win to pull themselves together. They managed to defeat Celta Vigo in this stadium by a huge 4-3 score last season. I think that they are capable of getting a win again.
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FC Barcelona - Valencia CFso far I can't understand this:
I am not very strong in details, but apparently not everything depends on the bookmaker's offices, since they all use the services of suppliers of coefficients (adding their own margin to them). For example, the sum of the probabilities will not be 100%, but 103 or 110%, which will affect the odds in favor of Barcelona, (since the margin is also distributed in relation to the odds for a specific match). To all this, do not forget to add the bookmaker's solvency, because if I am not mistaken, the fund of each of the matches should cover all possible winnings of the clients.  Wink

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October 14, 2021, 05:05:15 PM
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next two matches will be very important for Koeman because losing points may cost him the job of head coach. La Liga match vs Valencia and Champions League match vs Dynamo Kyiv will define his future.
I may be hasty with my conclusions, but it seems to me that the time of the Koeman in Barcelona is drawing to a close. Valencia can pretty much spoil the nerves of Barcelona, but as for the Champions League match with Dynamo Kiev, I think Barcelona will have no problems in this match, they will confidently win the match. Dynamo is not a bad club, but there are a lot of young players who do not have enough experience for the Champions League yet.

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October 14, 2021, 05:06:17 PM
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That is true. Barcelona does have the players to at least finish top 4 in the league. At the start of the season, many key players were out due to injury. Now that most of them, especially Aguero are back we can be optimistic of them doing good. What they need to do now is leave behind the dependency they had on Messi and try to play as a team and since they have some really quality players like Depay, Aguero, Pedri, and so many more, finishing top 4 should not be that tough of a challenge for them once they get the team chemistry right.

next two matches will be very important for Koeman because losing points may cost him the job of head coach. La Liga match vs Valencia and Champions League match vs Dynamo Kyiv will define his future.
a match they should have won easily considering these 2 teams are below their current level especially valencia are currently in a less than good form.
but back again to the barcelona game where when they met opponents who were below their level, they actually played worse and this was proven after they were crushed in the UCL a few weeks ago.

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October 14, 2021, 05:37:12 PM
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next two matches will be very important for Koeman because losing points may cost him the job of head coach.
I may be hasty with my conclusions, but it seems to me that the time of the Koeman in Barcelona is drawing to a close.
Yes Barcelona is struggling but this is not all on Koeman. Barcelona could have easily fired him last year if he was the only problem. You can place any of the top managers right now and they will continue to have poor results. Firing him if they don't do well in the next two matches won't any good for the club.

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October 14, 2021, 06:02:38 PM
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at the moment with the players available, Ancelotti can start his second spell at Real Madrid well, and he won five of their first six games, and that's why I think it's impossible for Real Madrid to sack Anceloti before his contract expires.
So far, in my opinion, Anceloti's ability to formulate strategies and maximize existing players to undergo a busy match schedule thats makes Real Madrid management really trust him, moreover Real Madrid management is aware that they didn't give a lot of money in the transfer market yesterday, so don't blame ancelotti if at this time Real Madrid defense is a little weak Grin.
Right now, two Spanish giants are talk of town specially Barcelona after having very poor start of season but suddenly after losing 2 matches one in La Liga and other in Champions League Real Madrid is also in hype which is not good as they have very good start of season and right now they are top on leader board and game in Champions League which was big upset it's nothing new because we have too many upsets like this in the past.

Real Madrid management viewing all things, so I am feeling they are not going to take any action against Ancelotti because he is good and can handle things in very better way now they have some good time their first game after break is against Barcelona on 24 October.

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October 14, 2021, 06:12:08 PM
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That is true. Barcelona does have the players to at least finish top 4 in the league. At the start of the season, many key players were out due to injury. Now that most of them, especially Aguero are back we can be optimistic of them doing good. What they need to do now is leave behind the dependency they had on Messi and try to play as a team and since they have some really quality players like Depay, Aguero, Pedri, and so many more, finishing top 4 should not be that tough of a challenge for them once they get the team chemistry right.

next two matches will be very important for Koeman because losing points may cost him the job of head coach. La Liga match vs Valencia and Champions League match vs Dynamo Kyiv will define his future.
They say so for several games in a row, but nothing happens, even though I did not like this coach initially, but I think he will not last long, so he does not have much time left. Sooner or later he will resign as head coach. If they lose to Dynamo, it will be a shame

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October 14, 2021, 06:19:25 PM
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That is true. Barcelona does have the players to at least finish top 4 in the league. At the start of the season, many key players were out due to injury. Now that most of them, especially Aguero are back we can be optimistic of them doing good. What they need to do now is leave behind the dependency they had on Messi and try to play as a team and since they have some really quality players like Depay, Aguero, Pedri, and so many more, finishing top 4 should not be that tough of a challenge for them once they get the team chemistry right.

next two matches will be very important for Koeman because losing points may cost him the job of head coach. La Liga match vs Valencia and Champions League match vs Dynamo Kyiv will define his future.

The president already said that Koeman would remain the coach in charge of Barcelona until the end of the season, but It would be seen if he'll bow to pressure from outside, if the underperformance should continue, but the height of that would be Barcelona getting eliminated from the group stages of the UCL.

FC Barcelona - Valencia CF

so far I can't understand this:



barcelona is a very weak team, not understanding why they are putting an odd of @1.56 in my opinion, they should have put an odd of @2.00 because there is a big chance that barcelona will lose, it's not like in the past where barcelona was strong and favorite in all games, today they are not doing well, but whenever they play against weak teams they keep putting low odds in their favor like they are a big winning team, i wonder why they have such low odds in their favor when they are losers?


The odds can be deceiving most times, but it's always a variety of factor deciding that... Valencia have not been really competitive team as well, I wouldn't risk putting my bet on Valencia in this case, although they can pull of a win or at least a draw.

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October 14, 2021, 06:31:20 PM
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FC Barcelona - Valencia CFso far I can't understand this:
I am not very strong in details, but apparently not everything depends on the bookmaker's offices, since they all use the services of suppliers of coefficients (adding their own margin to them). For example, the sum of the probabilities will not be 100%, but 103 or 110%, which will affect the odds in favor of Barcelona, (since the margin is also distributed in relation to the odds for a specific match). To all this, do not forget to add the bookmaker's solvency, because if I am not mistaken, the fund of each of the matches should cover all possible winnings of the clients.  Wink

Could you show how such a sum of probabilities is obtained? This is interesting to me because any probability that is higher than one (100%) is impossible by definition, which means that somewhere there is either a mathematical or a methodological error.
As for Slow death's question, I think this is a common phenomenon of a distorted bet (occurs when the mood of the crowd does not correspond to the real chances and the bookmakers are guided by the mood of the crowd to balance the odds).

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October 14, 2021, 06:46:45 PM
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Yes Barcelona is struggling but this is not all on Koeman. Barcelona could have easily fired him last year if he was the only problem. You can place any of the top managers right now and they will continue to have poor results. Firing him if they don't do well in the next two matches won't any good for the club.
If Barcelona had enough funds to pay Koeman then I'm sure they would have done it last season after he didn't manage to win a title for Barcelona. Now the problem is, Koeman complain about getting less attention from management and that make him fail to improve the team's performance for the better. We all know that Barcelona is experiencing financial problem which forced the team to cancel its intention to bring in top players from other team and is known to make them fail to keep Lionel Messi. Obviously the lack of reliable players make the team's performance very unstable. I think this is the reason why Koeman is complaining.

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October 14, 2021, 08:45:07 PM
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FC Barcelona - Valencia CF

so far I can't understand this:

barcelona is a very weak team, not understanding why they are putting an odd of @1.56 in my opinion, they should have put an odd of @2.00 because there is a big chance that barcelona will lose, it's not like in the past where barcelona was strong and favorite in all games, today they are not doing well, but whenever they play against weak teams they keep putting low odds in their favor like they are a big winning team, i wonder why they have such low odds in their favor when they are losers?

There are a lot of factors they consider apart from the current form of the team. For example if you look at their Head-to-Head records, Valencia last won a league at Camp Nou on 17th - 04 - 2016. That's over 5 years ago. That alone is something to consider and make one aware that it won't be an easy match for Valencia, however poor Barca's form is right now.

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October 14, 2021, 09:25:21 PM
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so far I can't understand this:

barcelona is a very weak team, not understanding why they are putting an odd of @1.56 in my opinion, they should have put an odd of @2.00 because there is a big chance that barcelona will lose, it's not like in the past where barcelona was strong and favorite in all games, today they are not doing well, but whenever they play against weak teams they keep putting low odds in their favor like they are a big winning team, i wonder why they have such low odds in their favor when they are losers?

There are a lot of factors they consider apart from the current form of the team. For example if you look at their Head-to-Head records, Valencia last won a league at Camp Nou on 17th - 04 - 2016. That's over 5 years ago. That alone is something to consider and make one aware that it won't be an easy match for Valencia, however poor Barca's form is right now.
Barcelona coach Ronald Koeman will have to deal with his team's next match against Valencia, in the absence of Arujo.
Barcelona will host Valencia at the Camp Nou next Sunday as part of the ninth round of La Liga.
The newspaper "Marca" reported that Barcelona defender Ronald Araujo will miss the Valencia match, after he suffered an injury during his country's match against Argentina in the World Cup qualifiers.
The Uruguayan Federation confirmed that Araujo had suffered a muscle injury in the right thigh, to confirm his absence from facing Valencia, in principle.
The newspaper pointed out that the period of absence of Arajo, or the period required to recover from the injury, was not specified, so that Koeman received a painful blow in light of the many injuries suffered by the Catalan team.
It will be difficult to see Barcelona winning this game but I belleive that we will atleast see goals from each side.
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October 14, 2021, 09:55:37 PM
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Maybe your doubt is right, but I am feeling some differently currently they have some issues, and it is nothing new because we have many problems in these clubs, and they are able to sort out very quickly right now same happening in Barcelona as their biggest concern is debit which is nearly $1.6 Billion USD and already few companies in talk if they settle this which is happening in near future then surely they will be able to bring some better and quality players and able to fight back in La Liga even most chance they will be in top 3 at the end of this season even right now it's very tough but still possible.
I would also imagine that Barcelona is not a team that is financially incapable of bringing some income neither. If they could simply just build a team that is young and not asking for 30-40 million type of money, then they would be capable of making a profit at the end of each season. Unfortunately they have been buying players that did not helped the team that much, or even when they did help it wasn't enough because of how much money they cost, now they do not have those players and they can make an income.

Debt may look like it is a huge amount, but the reality is that we are talking about something that can be earned by a team that high. Sure it is not easy and it will take some time but if any team is capable of making that much profit it is Barcelona. They are profiting so much and all they have to do is wait around a bit without spending too much money, sell a few players if they can instead of releasing them.

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October 14, 2021, 10:48:46 PM
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One of the top teams in the league, Sevilla are going to play against Celta Vigo away in their next game. Sevilla are one of the lowest conceding teams in the La Liga now. And they are only three points away from the leader Real Madrid. Sevilla didn't get a win in their last two official games before the national break. They lost to Granada by 1-0 and drew with Wolfsburg by 1-1. They need a win to pull themselves together. They managed to defeat Celta Vigo in this stadium by a huge 4-3 score last season. I think that they are capable of getting a win again.
Sevilla is just three  points below Maldrid and 13 points above celta vigo which makes the possibility of celta vigo winning the match very slim and the odd given to celta vigo would be higher compared to Sevilla. But what if celta vigo wins that should be a major payout for the lucky dude. I might not have the mind to risk it because prediction is a game of luck most times. I rather go for Sevilla to win
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October 14, 2021, 11:24:03 PM
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Yeah agree with you because Real Madrid midfielder is this season haven't great performance, just valverde can play as well possible in this season, I think Modric have over and better Real Madrid looking for new midfielder for next window transfer. Camavinga look have the same position with Kroos and not the same position like Modric because he not plays behind the forward but keep take defensive area, but Ancelotti maybe can give chance for Camavinga playing as second forward or midfielder attacking area.

Well there is something that I have always said, sometimes when some players who have shone as much as Modric sometimes need to give them the vote of confidence, I am a Real Madrid fan, but I have never agreed with the treatment of players when they reach a certain age I know that they bet a lot on young players, but sometimes experience is needed, kroos would never take him out of playing, because he is a player who can solve a game, but you have to see what he brings to the German team.

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October 14, 2021, 11:27:09 PM
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There are rumors that Eden Hazard will return to Chelsea in the next transfer window, hopefully it will come true.
I just know if there is a rumor that Hazard to go back to Chelsea. Of course, it will be good for Real Madrid if Hazard can be sold in the next transfer window, they will get more money to buy top players. Hazard never showed his best performance in Real Madrid, he deserves to be put on the transfer list. What for to have this player in Real Madrid, he cannot contribute well but his salary is quite big. If any club wants to sign him, it is a wise decision to release this player.


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October 14, 2021, 11:51:52 PM
Last edit: October 15, 2021, 12:23:53 AM by AndySt
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Yes Barcelona is struggling but this is not all on Koeman. Barcelona could have easily fired him last year if he was the only problem. You can place any of the top managers right now and they will continue to have poor results. Firing him if they don't do well in the next two matches won't any good for the club.
If Barcelona had enough funds to pay Koeman then I'm sure they would have done it last season after he didn't manage to win a title for Barcelona. Now the problem is, Koeman complain about getting less attention from management and that make him fail to improve the team's performance for the better. We all know that Barcelona is experiencing financial problem which forced the team to cancel its intention to bring in top players from other team and is known to make them fail to keep Lionel Messi. Obviously the lack of reliable players make the team's performance very unstable. I think this is the reason why Koeman is complaining.
I think any coach would complain if they were in Koeman's place. Another question is that this would not necessarily be reflected in the public plane, as it is happening now. Barcelona has very big problems with finances and even just parting with the coach will cost the club about 12 million. Therefore, it may look like a kind of insurance for Koeman and the club is forced to hope until the last for the situation to be corrected, but given all the events that have taken place, there is not even a hint of this yet and you need to understand that this cannot continue indefinitely. Koeman and Barcelona are kind of hostages of this situation, but it seems that a lot will become clear after the El Classico, because in case of an unsatisfactory result, some measures will need to be taken.
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