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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (25.4%)
Real Madrid - 75 (65.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (7%)
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June 29, 2022, 05:25:27 PM
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Lewandowski transfer to Barcelona will occur after Frenkie De Jong transfer, makes a sense because the fresh funds received were recorded as more than enough for Barcelona to pay Bayern offer. Xavi main target is the UCL Title and sponsors also Investors if the club can bring a dream team like Lewandowski to play it sparks positive vibes, maybe slowly at the start of next season there will be a lot of sponsors for this club.
Even if Lewandowski is one of the best strikers at the moment, but I still doubt his high market value. He would be good for Barcelona, ​​but he is too expensive if his age is a valuation aspect. Maybe only Barcelona are willing to buy him at such an expensive price, while other teams are more waiting for him to be free transfer next season.

I'm certainly happy if Barcelona are able to bring Lewandowski to the Camp Nou, it must be appreciated. But due to poor financial conditions, I hope they have to be more careful in selecting players and considering the consequences. If Barcelona are willing and able to buy him, then I will support that bold move at this time.

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June 29, 2022, 05:30:56 PM
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Robert Lewandowski is not a bad player. I was also a little amazed to see his interest to play for Barcelona. But after all, it comes down to only one thing. Barcelona should not pay anything close to 50 million for a player who is aged. If this was the Barcelona of five or six years ago I think this would not have been a problem. But now if this transfer does not work it is going to be a very big problem for Barcelona. Bayern Munich is obviously going to bait Barcelona into spending more money for these players but Barcelona really should not get baited.
Barcelona will do everything possible to land Lewandowski this summer. Barcelona need Lewandowski or a lone striker to start next season, Xavi is even very optimistic that Barcelona can get the Bayern superstar signature in this transfer window. Several attempts have been made in this signing, one of which was Barcelona increasing the budget clause to convince Bayern Munich to accept their proposal. Lewandowski is only under contract for one more season with Bayern Munich, if Bayern do not want to accept Barcelona offer of course Bayern Munich will release Lewandowski for free next season.
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June 29, 2022, 05:51:56 PM
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It's not worth paying 40 million for a player who is already 34 if the player is not Lewandowski. Why? because behind Lewandowski's 40 million price, there are other goals that can give Barcelona profits, in my opinion, such as selling jerseys and other merchandise.

It is impossible for Luis Suarez to return to Barcelona because the basis of Suarez's sale to Atletico Madrid is because he is no longer young and Barcelona needs younger players because of Barca's busy schedule. I think you still remember the reason why Barcelona officials let Luis Suarez off a few years ago.

I'm already confused about the price of Lewandowski - they write that Barcelona offers 30, and Bavaria wants 40. The other day they write that Bayern wants 50 and Barcelona offers 40. But the most confusing is the position of Barcelona - on the one hand, they offer money, on the other hand, they seem to have no money and they offer to wait a couple of months until they find it  Grin In my opinion, this is turning into some kind of farce.
What seems like a joke is not in the desire to sign Lewandowski in my opinion, but in the negotiation process with Manchester United who want Frenkie De Jong who has not got a deal to date. I think this is the reason Barcelona have not agreed with Manchester United's offer and asked for a higher price to get De Jong.

Barcelona must release a player who has an important role in the team to be able to get funds and the sale of Frenkie De Jong could be a solution to get Lewandowski.

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June 29, 2022, 07:23:55 PM
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What seems like a joke is not in the desire to sign Lewandowski in my opinion, but in the negotiation process with Manchester United who want Frenkie De Jong who has not got a deal to date. I think this is the reason Barcelona have not agreed with Manchester United's offer and asked for a higher price to get De Jong.

Barcelona must release a player who has an important role in the team to be able to get funds and the sale of Frenkie De Jong could be a solution to get Lewandowski.
Does it worth it though? Would you prefer to have De Jong who is a young star player, or would you prefer to have Lewandowski who is arguably better of course but at the same time he is very old. I mean if we are talking about it financially then I would keep De Jong instead because he could worth a lot more in the future.

Although if they think that it could turn out to be like Coutinho deal then they could get rid of him now that he still has a value, he has dropped in value a lot over the course of the season. In the end, I still think they should focus on the youngsters and what they have and not go for expensive transfers, they do not need to spend money like that.
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June 29, 2022, 08:12:10 PM
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What seems like a joke is not in the desire to sign Lewandowski in my opinion, but in the negotiation process with Manchester United who want Frenkie De Jong who has not got a deal to date. I think this is the reason Barcelona have not agreed with Manchester United's offer and asked for a higher price to get De Jong.

Barcelona must release a player who has an important role in the team to be able to get funds and the sale of Frenkie De Jong could be a solution to get Lewandowski.
Does it worth it though? Would you prefer to have De Jong who is a young star player, or would you prefer to have Lewandowski who is arguably better of course but at the same time he is very old. I mean if we are talking about it financially then I would keep De Jong instead because he could worth a lot more in the future.

I would rather have Frenkie De Jong retained than going all out for Lewandowski to be honest, Barcelona didn't just pay as much as they just last season for Ferran Torres just have him probably become the second option upfront, Maybe not as effective as Lewandowski would be but Barcelona have multiple players that can fill up the centre forward position, while not too many options that are as dynamic as De Jong that can play in several position in the midfield, and is still pretty much a very young player, regardless of what they get in profit as difference from what they paid for him initially it's still going to be a loss for Barcelona imho.

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June 29, 2022, 08:26:28 PM
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It seems like the Frenkie de Jong deal is nearly ending for Manchester United but in a positive way I mean. Barcelona seem willing to say okay to a total sum of 85 million euros for Frenkie de Jong now. 20 million of this sum is going to be add-ons which I find quite big honestly. But as Barcelona need money desperately they still accept the offer. Manchester United are trying to convince de Jong too now. Erik ten Hag might be really helpful for this because they worked with each other at Ajax before.

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June 29, 2022, 08:32:12 PM
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It seems like the Frenkie de Jong deal is nearly ending for Manchester United but in a positive way I mean. Barcelona seem willing to say okay to a total sum of 85 million euros for Frenkie de Jong now. 20 million of this sum is going to be add-ons which I find quite big honestly. But as Barcelona need money desperately they still accept the offer. Manchester United are trying to convince de Jong too now. Erik ten Hag might be really helpful for this because they worked with each other at Ajax before.

Its a good deal for both parties involved. Barcelona get cash and free their wage bill by selling De Jong. Manchester United get their man, pay in 4 years installment, replace Paul Pogba with ease and prepare for the new season with their new manager. Also, Barcelona is reported approaching Leeds to hijack Raphinha deal from the clutches of Chelsea and Arsenal. The deal should wrap up this weekend
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June 29, 2022, 09:34:42 PM
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It's not worth paying 40 million for a player who is already 34 if the player is not Lewandowski. Why? because behind Lewandowski's 40 million price, there are other goals that can give Barcelona profits, in my opinion, such as selling jerseys and other merchandise.

It is impossible for Luis Suarez to return to Barcelona because the basis of Suarez's sale to Atletico Madrid is because he is no longer young and Barcelona needs younger players because of Barca's busy schedule. I think you still remember the reason why Barcelona officials let Luis Suarez off a few years ago.

I'm already confused about the price of Lewandowski - they write that Barcelona offers 30, and Bavaria wants 40. The other day they write that Bayern wants 50 and Barcelona offers 40. But the most confusing is the position of Barcelona - on the one hand, they offer money, on the other hand, they seem to have no money and they offer to wait a couple of months until they find it  Grin In my opinion, this is turning into some kind of farce.

https://www.90min.com/posts/barcelona-members-approve-merchandising-tv-rights-sales

In that article they describe how Barcelona is probably going to raise 700 million Euro. I agree it is crazy when it comes to either solvency or insolvency in the Spanish league. One day it's doomsday and Barcelona is essentially going to collapse every other second, and afterwards they are raising an offer for Lewandowksi every two weeks. I have no idea how all that works. I guess they can't ever be involved anyway because their brand is too big to fail. There would always be someone pouring money into the club for whatever they can still sell off.


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June 29, 2022, 09:39:14 PM
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It seems like the Frenkie de Jong deal is nearly ending for Manchester United but in a positive way I mean. Barcelona seem willing to say okay to a total sum of 85 million euros for Frenkie de Jong now. 20 million of this sum is going to be add-ons which I find quite big honestly.
€85 million is a big amount of money, Barcelona really wants to get a huge advantage by selling Frenkie de Jong. We know the reason is they need big money to accommodate enough funds for their targets in this transfer window. Since Man United is really serious to get Frenkie, Barcelona becomes more confident to set a high price for Frenkie's transfer fees. I think Man United did a bad strategy to get this player. Man United should target another top midfielder with the same position as Frenkie to weaken Barcelona stance.


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June 29, 2022, 09:46:19 PM
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Its a good deal for both parties involved. Barcelona get cash and free their wage bill by selling De Jong. Manchester United get their man, pay in 4 years installment, replace Paul Pogba with ease and prepare for the new season with their new manager. Also, Barcelona is reported approaching Leeds to hijack Raphinha deal from the clutches of Chelsea and Arsenal. The deal should wrap up this weekend
In this case, it seems that DeJong is only a matter of time now. But when he says Rapinha isn't he a Chelsea player now?
For Manchester United maybe they want to finalize any kind of deal now considering they also have a lot of players to look for now and De Jong is one of them they are targeting when they are done with De Jong then they will look for another in the deal.

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June 29, 2022, 10:15:12 PM
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What seems like a joke is not in the desire to sign Lewandowski in my opinion, but in the negotiation process with Manchester United who want Frenkie De Jong who has not got a deal to date. I think this is the reason Barcelona have not agreed with Manchester United's offer and asked for a higher price to get De Jong.

Barcelona must release a player who has an important role in the team to be able to get funds and the sale of Frenkie De Jong could be a solution to get Lewandowski.
Does it worth it though? Would you prefer to have De Jong who is a young star player, or would you prefer to have Lewandowski who is arguably better of course but at the same time he is very old. I mean if we are talking about it financially then I would keep De Jong instead because he could worth a lot more in the future.

I would rather have Frenkie De Jong retained than going all out for Lewandowski to be honest, Barcelona didn't just pay as much as they just last season for Ferran Torres just have him probably become the second option upfront, Maybe not as effective as Lewandowski would be but Barcelona have multiple players that can fill up the centre forward position, while not too many options that are as dynamic as De Jong that can play in several position in the midfield, and is still pretty much a very young player, regardless of what they get in profit as difference from what they paid for him initially it's still going to be a loss for Barcelona imho.

Xavi Hernandez mist have been in contact with the Polish International, speculations wouldn't have gone round if he  wasn't needed by Barcelona. But if he Xavi Hernandez really wants Lewandoski then the deal will be done in little or no time.
Yeah they have players who can feel that space up, but who the coach wants matters,and Lewandoski should, all you have to do is create good chances for him and boom, that's the goal. Memphis Depay should leave coz I doubt if he will get enough game time next season.
He was only brought in by Koeman all because he was he's in the squad he managed during he's stay as head Coach of the Dutch side.

Frank Kessie should be available for Barcelona next season, still on the look out for who replaces Frankie De Jong since contract terms been agreed already by  Manchester United and Barcelona.

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June 29, 2022, 10:24:36 PM
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It seems like the Frenkie de Jong deal is nearly ending for Manchester United but in a positive way I mean. Barcelona seem willing to say okay to a total sum of 85 million euros for Frenkie de Jong now. 20 million of this sum is going to be add-ons which I find quite big honestly.
€85 million is a big amount of money, Barcelona really wants to get a huge advantage by selling Frenkie de Jong. We know the reason is they need big money to accommodate enough funds for their targets in this transfer window. Since Man United is really serious to get Frenkie, Barcelona becomes more confident to set a high price for Frenkie's transfer fees. I think Man United did a bad strategy to get this player. Man United should target another top midfielder with the same position as Frenkie to weaken Barcelona stance.


Manchester United are really in a haste to secure frenkie dejong deal, perhaps Barcelona really want a huge amount of money before the deal can be finalized. Perhaps Barcelona really pledge alot of money on this player, as in 85 million euros is too expensive for a player like dejong. And it seems Barcelona are not thinking to lower the price, cause they really needs the money to settle their financial challenges, cause selling him at that rate will help boost the team income. Right now Manchester United are very serious on getting dejong before going for any other players, but with the price stated on this player , I think Manchester United should look for other top midfielder's that can handle that position.

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June 29, 2022, 10:36:50 PM
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Real Madrid also are in the race to sign Jude Bellingham now together with Liverpool and Manchester United. Dortmund are considering to accept only offers which are at least 120 million euros seemingly. Jude Bellingham is a wonderful young talent now certainly and Dortmund don't want to lose him at the same time with Haaland. Among the contenders to sign him, I think Real Madrid would be one step ahead. Real Madrid are trying their best to strengthen their midfield and a possible Bellingham transfer would be awesome for them. But I wonder if they'd like to pay this much.

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June 29, 2022, 11:23:59 PM
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Robert Lewandowski is not a bad player. I was also a little amazed to see his interest to play for Barcelona. But after all, it comes down to only one thing. Barcelona should not pay anything close to 50 million for a player who is aged. If this was the Barcelona of five or six years ago I think this would not have been a problem. But now if this transfer does not work it is going to be a very big problem for Barcelona. Bayern Munich is obviously going to bait Barcelona into spending more money for these players but Barcelona really should not get baited.
Barcelona will do everything possible to land Lewandowski this summer. Barcelona need Lewandowski or a lone striker to start next season, Xavi is even very optimistic that Barcelona can get the Bayern superstar signature in this transfer window. Several attempts have been made in this signing, one of which was Barcelona increasing the budget clause to convince Bayern Munich to accept their proposal. Lewandowski is only under contract for one more season with Bayern Munich, if Bayern do not want to accept Barcelona offer of course Bayern Munich will release Lewandowski for free next season.
When looking at the current progress, it is true that Barcelona can still be confident in getting Xavi's signature, moreover they already seem to have a special closeness where when Lewandowski said he wanted to be at Barcelona for next season this clearly added to his confidence.
On the other hand now they are also almost done with De Jong and will get fresh money from the sale of De Jong so indeed it will be more possible for them to bring Lewandowski from Bayern.

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It's not worth paying 40 million for a player who is already 34 if the player is not Lewandowski. Why? because behind Lewandowski's 40 million price, there are other goals that can give Barcelona profits, in my opinion, such as selling jerseys and other merchandise.

It is impossible for Luis Suarez to return to Barcelona because the basis of Suarez's sale to Atletico Madrid is because he is no longer young and Barcelona needs younger players because of Barca's busy schedule. I think you still remember the reason why Barcelona officials let Luis Suarez off a few years ago.

I also agree that Barcelona needs young players to get ready for the future but I don’t think buying Robert Lewandowski is a good decision because he is also not young either. If he was 27 or even 30 years old, paying close to 50 million would have made a lot more sense to me but now it doesn’t really make any sense. For 50 million I think Barcelona will be able to find younger players. And they will be able to give their service for a longer time to Barcelona than Lewandowski. But I have to agree that the play style of Robert Lewandowski is going to help Barcelona a lot.



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June 29, 2022, 11:55:56 PM
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The Frenkie de Jong deal between Barcelona and Manchester United could be completed soon. Because Manchester United have made an offer worth 85 million euros bonuses included and Barcelona seem to be okay for that. This would make things more difficult for Barcelona as they will need to sign an extra player also. Otherwise their midfield would stay weaker. Maybe they still have many midfielders but Frenkie de Jong is a regular player in the starting eleven and his performance has been good too.

You just said Barcelona need extra players, Otherwise their midfield will remain weak. Frenkie de Jong is in the midfield position, losing de jong will only burden the barcelona midfield. And barcelona has a shortage of players, not a surplus of players, right. 85 million euros will not be enough, because barcelona signed de jong with 75 million euros from ajax, plus manchester united also have to take over or replace Frenkie de Jong's two season contract remaining at barcelona, so i think barcelona have not agreed on that value.
I don't think so, they still have at least some pretty good midfielders there although losing De Jong would be difficult to replace but there are still some other talented young players like Pedri, Gavi or maybe even Puig there.
They are young players who are quite promising at the moment and this could be an option for them to navigate next season.
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June 29, 2022, 11:59:14 PM
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I also agree that Barcelona needs young players to get ready for the future but I don’t think buying Robert Lewandowski is a good decision because he is also not young either. If he was 27 or even 30 years old, paying close to 50 million would have made a lot more sense to me but now it doesn’t really make any sense. For 50 million I think Barcelona will be able to find younger players. And they will be able to give their service for a longer time to Barcelona than Lewandowski. But I have to agree that the play style of Robert Lewandowski is going to help Barcelona a lot.
Barcelona wants Lewandowski to bring a big impact immediately on Barcelona performance. If they buy a young player, it may be difficult to give an instant impact. While if they expect to buy a top young striker like Mbappe or Haaland, it is very difficult. Besides their prices being too expensive, Barcelona must compete with many big teams in the world. So, the chance to sign the player is too small. A possible option is by signing an old star player like Lewandowski.


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June 30, 2022, 12:22:23 AM
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Benzema's wonderful season started to make me think like whether he will be the winner of Ballon d'Or also. I don't think that I'm exaggerating this too because Benzema was definitely one of the most impressive players in the world. In addition to his successes with Real Madrid in one season, his performance about scoring goals and making assists both was incredible. I don't think that either Messi or Ronaldo will manage to win it this time. I would put Benzema to the top and Lewandowski to the second place for Ballon d'Or considering last season.
Based on what Benzema displayed in some matches showed that he is among the best strikers in the whole world. Benzema really helped Real Madrid to performed well, because he used all his strategies to achieved many goals from many competition which Messi and Ronaldo couldn't achieve for their teams. I think, it will be difficult for Messi and Ronaldo to win it this time because Benzema is fully ready to use the same strategies to win it again to alert the world that he remain the world best striker.

Benzema had one of the best seasons of his life in the last season in La Liga. his performance was really great and it is going to be a big understatement to say that he helped Real Madrid win a lot of matches. He also helped Real Madrid get out of some very sticky situations. he also got some late winners in the Champions League for Real Madrid to move forward in the competition. I believe this time neither Messi nor Ronaldo is going to be the winner of the Ballon d'Or.  If there was anyone deserving of it this time it is going to be Benzema.

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June 30, 2022, 12:31:01 AM
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I also agree that Barcelona needs young players to get ready for the future but I don’t think buying Robert Lewandowski is a good decision because he is also not young either. If he was 27 or even 30 years old, paying close to 50 million would have made a lot more sense to me but now it doesn’t really make any sense. For 50 million I think Barcelona will be able to find younger players. And they will be able to give their service for a longer time to Barcelona than Lewandowski. But I have to agree that the play style of Robert Lewandowski is going to help Barcelona a lot.
Barcelona wants Lewandowski to bring a big impact immediately on Barcelona performance. If they buy a young player, it may be difficult to give an instant impact. While if they expect to buy a top young striker like Mbappe or Haaland, it is very difficult. Besides their prices being too expensive, Barcelona must compete with many big teams in the world. So, the chance to sign the player is too small. A possible option is by signing an old star player like Lewandowski.


It's true what you say, maybe this is just a first step to stabilize their game first before they get ready for something they prepare for the future. It's a good move in my opinion when they want to do that, because if they don't improve the existing squad first, it will be more risky if they put young players in.

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June 30, 2022, 01:01:10 AM
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This is a dilemma for Barcelona in my opinion, because on the other hand they need money by selling their players, on the other hand they will lose one of their players who I think contributed to them. But if Frenkie De Jong didn't get into Xavi's scheme of play I think they would really sell him. But who will they bring in to replace De Jong's departure?

Barcelona's plan to sell Frenkie de Jong to get some money and look for new players who are cheaper for the midfield position. Bernardo Silva from Manchester City is Xavi target, he really likes Silva style of play. Xavi is really in a dilemma with this condition, on the one hand Barcelona need money from the sale of De Jong, on the other hand Xavi is afraid after De Jong left that he cannot sign Bernardo Silva.
Xavi must be careful with the decisions that will be taken, if Barcelona go the wrong way, they will find it difficult to compete with other clubs in the fight for the title.

It looks like this will indeed be a deal for Barcelona and Manchester United now regarding De Jong and it looks like Barcelona have made a choice for it, Now the transfer process is nearing the end and they prefer to sell De Jong to make their finances better.
As for Silva, I just heard about this but I doubt it will work because Silva's role at City is also quite good and Pep seems to still be using Silva for his plans next season.

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