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Question: 2024/2025 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 12 (30%)
Real Madrid - 25 (62.5%)
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Valencia - 0 (0%)
Villareal - 1 (2.5%)
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August 16, 2024, 05:06:56 PM
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Celta Vigo vs Alaves

Celta Vigo (confirmed lineup): Ivan Villar, Javier Manquillo, Carl Starfelt, Carlos Dominguez, Hugo Alvarez, Fran Beltran, Damian Rodriguez, Mihailo Ristic, Iago Aspas, Anastasios Douvikas, Jonathan Bamba.

Alavés (confirmed lineup): Antonio Sivera, Carlos Vicente, Nahuel Tenaglia, Abdelkabir Abqar, Moussa Diarra, Ander Guevara, Antonio Blanco, Luka Romero, Jon Guridi, Tomas Conechny, Kike Garcia.

Here we go for the first Laliga match of the season
The first Laliga match of the season was played yesterday between Athletic Club Bilbao Vs Getafe, and the second match was already played between Girona and Real Betis and both these matches ended in a draw.

This should be the third match; and I think it will not end in a draw because Celta Vigo has been very prominent against Alaves before their last two matches where Alaves was able to win one and draw one, I will expect the home team to win the match today.











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August 16, 2024, 05:09:34 PM
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What Xavi was worried about seems to have happened. He spoke the truth but his words actually infuriated his boss and got him fired because of it.

Now Barcelona must find a way to get fresh funds and I think it wouldn't be strange if in the near time, there will be some players who may be sold to solve that problem. There have even been rumors that De Jong has been linked with Man United again.
Manchester United have basically shown a lot of interest in De Jong in recent seasons, but the main obstacle is price or other deals not being reached. De Jong is a player Ten Hag hoped would be at Manchester United, but Barcelona have not seemed willing to let him go in recent seasons.

In the end, Barcelona was forced to consider selling several players, including De Jong. Of course not now, but when they actually get an offer that's hard to refuse. It is reported that Yamal has also been approached by PSG, as has Araujo who has been linked with a move to the Premier League. Nobody knows who will leave Barcelona in the transfer market, but it will happen because they need the money.

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August 16, 2024, 05:21:22 PM
 #80943

Celta Vigo vs Alaves

Celta Vigo (confirmed lineup): Ivan Villar, Javier Manquillo, Carl Starfelt, Carlos Dominguez, Hugo Alvarez, Fran Beltran, Damian Rodriguez, Mihailo Ristic, Iago Aspas, Anastasios Douvikas, Jonathan Bamba.

Alavés (confirmed lineup): Antonio Sivera, Carlos Vicente, Nahuel Tenaglia, Abdelkabir Abqar, Moussa Diarra, Ander Guevara, Antonio Blanco, Luka Romero, Jon Guridi, Tomas Conechny, Kike Garcia.

Here we go for the first Laliga match of the season
This is the third match in the first week of the season in Laliga. After seeing the previous two matches which only ended in a draw, I think Alavez will win the match in this match. Even though Alavez is not the host in this match, I feel that they are quite reliable. Maybe for me Alavez's rapid progress last season will continue into this season. But I don't bet on this match which indicates that I am not sure about this match. Different from the previous two matches. Even though I was right for 1 match and wrong for the other match.


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Bilbao really deserves to be the favorite in today's match. And I also bet on Bilbao in that match. Although I think there is a chance of getting a draw. Because head to head battles between Bilbao vs Getafe usually result in draws. In the last 5 meetings alone we can see 4 of them were draws. Meanwhile, for the Betis vs Girona match, I think I will be on Girona's side. I still have high hopes for this club after last season they showed good results. Even though at the moment they have lost one of their best players on the front line, I am sure that Girona's good performance is not just because of the depth of their squad, but I feel that this team is great thanks to their coach who is very trustworthy and is able to make the players in the squad show their potential. maximum. So I will favorite Girona.

Last season's performance is a reference that they will win this match, really?

If so, what about the history of meetings between the two teams, the comparison is 10 (Real Betis wins), 2 (Draw) & 2 (Girona wins). I think this comparison makes more sense than just looking at last season's performance, especially since Girona have not shown their consistency from season to season, just like Marseille who slumped last season, but we never know how they will experience their new season.
But in the end, head to head is often an indicator of repeating the same results. This is similar to us analyzing the crypto market technically. Although it's not always true, sometimes it works well. For example, the results of the Bilbao vs Getafe match are now repeating more draws.

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August 16, 2024, 05:35:32 PM
 #80944

Celta Vigo vs Alaves

Celta Vigo (confirmed lineup): Ivan Villar, Javier Manquillo, Carl Starfelt, Carlos Dominguez, Hugo Alvarez, Fran Beltran, Damian Rodriguez, Mihailo Ristic, Iago Aspas, Anastasios Douvikas, Jonathan Bamba.

Alavés (confirmed lineup): Antonio Sivera, Carlos Vicente, Nahuel Tenaglia, Abdelkabir Abqar, Moussa Diarra, Ander Guevara, Antonio Blanco, Luka Romero, Jon Guridi, Tomas Conechny, Kike Garcia.

Here we go for the first Laliga match of the season
The first Laliga match of the season was played yesterday between Athletic Club Bilbao Vs Getafe, and the second match was already played between Girona and Real Betis and both these matches ended in a draw.

This should be the third match; and I think it will not end in a draw because Celta Vigo has been very prominent against Alaves before their last two matches where Alaves was able to win one and draw one, I will expect the home team to win the match today.

The match between Celta Vigo and Alaves has started, and the first half is nearing its end. From my observations of the ongoing match, both teams are playing well, but currently, Alaves is leading with one goal. It is yet to be concluded what will happen at the end of the first half or the end of the game because both teams are putting in their efforts. It is very possible that Celta Vigo will equalize the score, but it is also possible that Alaves will add more goals. Even if Alaves scores more goals, Celta will likely score as the match goes on. I am currently enjoying the match and can't wait to see what will happen at the end.

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August 16, 2024, 05:37:53 PM
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We may be seeing the first three matches of the La Liga this season end in a draw. This is possible and the likely outcome of the match between Celta Vigo and Deportivo Alavés. At thirty three minutes of play, the away team is leading by 0-1 even when the bookies game the home sides the advantage. This result is actually surprising to me because Celta Vigo did so well in their pre-season friendly matches but unfortunately, it seems those friendly matches does not count. There is still time for them to save the game and a draw will not be bad for them.

The next match, Las Palmas will be playing Sevilla and judging by the odds, seems the bookies are putting the match at a draw since Sevilla is at away and the home side will be enjoying home advantage. I am expecting Sevilla to have a narrow win but the probability is not too high because the season just started.











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August 16, 2024, 05:39:48 PM
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What Xavi was worried about seems to have happened. He spoke the truth but his words actually infuriated his boss and got him fired because of it.

Now Barcelona must find a way to get fresh funds and I think it wouldn't be strange if in the near time, there will be some players who may be sold to solve that problem. There have even been rumors that De Jong has been linked with Man United again.
One of the reasons Barcelona are currently suffering financial lack at the moment is because of the transfer deals of the club in recent years. How can a player like De Jong be the highest earner in Spanish league even when better and more talented players like Jude Bellingham, Vinicius Jr and Kylian Mbappe shares the same league with him. Xavi Hernandez saw all these things and publicly spoke about the club's poor financial decisions and instead of working with him to right the wrongs, the club president Joan Laporta decided to sack him. I don't see Barcelona getting out of the financial woes anytime soon if you ask me.

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August 16, 2024, 05:59:20 PM
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We may be seeing the first three matches of the La Liga this season end in a draw. This is possible and the likely outcome of the match between Celta Vigo and Deportivo Alavés. At thirty three minutes of play, the away team is leading by 0-1 even when the bookies game the home sides the advantage. This result is actually surprising to me because Celta Vigo did so well in their pre-season friendly matches but unfortunately, it seems those friendly matches does not count. There is still time for them to save the game and a draw will not be bad for them.

The next match, Las Palmas will be playing Sevilla and judging by the odds, seems the bookies are putting the match at a draw since Sevilla is at away and the home side will be enjoying home advantage. I am expecting Sevilla to have a narrow win but the probability is not too high because the season just started.

As far as I know it looks like Celta Vigo is quite a favorite because they are playing at home too, but I don't dare to bet on this match because I think results in this match are difficult to predict. But,  even though Celta Vigo is playing at home and at least quite a favorite, but the fact is that Celta Vigo lost in this first half with a score of 0-1. Even worse, Celta Vigo also lost the statistical record in this match and thus, although there is still a second half, but it seems that it will still be difficult for Celta Vigo to be able to make a goal in this match. Obviously, it will be a disappointment if Celta Vigo is unable to get points in this first match.

But about the next match between Las Palmas v Sevilla although indeed, I also still realize that Sevilla is still in performance problems during the last two seasons in La Liga. But at this moment it seems that I personally will still choose Sevilla to win, ofcourse it will be risky if I choose Sevilla, but because I am still confident in the quality that Sevilla has, I will still go forward for Sevilla in this away match against Las Palmas.

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August 16, 2024, 06:49:25 PM
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Bilbao, on the other hand, I don't believe they drew against Getafe due to Nico Williams was on the bench till the 70th minute of the game, even without Nico Williams in the first half, they performed very well they missed several chances to score goals, Bilbao dominated the match with 70% ball possession, one can not get a team to win a game, it's only that victory was not on their side in the starting game. Bilbao will face Barcelona in their next game, and I can't wait to watch how Nico Williams will battle against Yamal.

I'm sure of that but the reason why I say that is Athletic Bilbao could have scored more goals. Nico Williams is a game changer you know. He made 27 goal contributions in 37 games last season.  Smiley

He should be in the starting lineup every game. But I don't know maybe the manager had his own reasons. But I'm pretty sure people who bet on Athletic Bilbao to win got really crazy about it (including me  Grin).  Anyways, a bad start for them but no problem. At the beginning of the season we see surprising results more common. The important point is how good they will perform in general. With Nico, I believe they will do just fine again.

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August 16, 2024, 07:17:02 PM
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We may be seeing the first three matches of the La Liga this season end in a draw. This is possible and the likely outcome of the match between Celta Vigo and Deportivo Alavés. At thirty three minutes of play, the away team is leading by 0-1 even when the bookies game the home sides the advantage. This result is actually surprising to me because Celta Vigo did so well in their pre-season friendly matches but unfortunately, it seems those friendly matches does not count. There is still time for them to save the game and a draw will not be bad for them.

The next match, Las Palmas will be playing Sevilla and judging by the odds, seems the bookies are putting the match at a draw since Sevilla is at away and the home side will be enjoying home advantage. I am expecting Sevilla to have a narrow win but the probability is not too high because the season just started.

Celta Vigo managed to turn things around in the second half by scoring two goals. Namely 1 goal in the 66th minute and the second goal in the 84th minute. So in the end Celta Vigo managed to become the first team to get full points this season. This is not a surprising result where the hosts can win. But I'm not sure about the next match, namely Las Palmas vs Sevilla. Sevilla could actually be favorites if they are at their best. But Las Palmas, who are the hosts in this match, will probably have more motivation to win the match. However, a draw could result in this match. But unfortunately I may have to miss this match. Because I'm not sure about my predictions for that match. I would probably only bet on teams that are clear favorites.

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Celta Vigo came from behind and won. Playing at home, Celta had actually scored the equalizer in the first half but it was disallowed for a slight offside. In the second half they scored the two winning goals. Both Swedberg and Aspas' goals were very good. Celta knows how to attack in an organized way. By starting the league with a win, Celta showed that they are aiming for higher places. Alaves was a team Celta should have beaten anyway, if they were aiming for the European competition spots.

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Celta Vigo came from behind and won. Playing at home, Celta had actually scored the equalizer in the first half but it was disallowed for a slight offside. In the second half they scored the two winning goals. Both Swedberg and Aspas' goals were very good. Celta knows how to attack in an organized way. By starting the league with a win, Celta showed that they are aiming for higher places. Alaves was a team Celta should have beaten anyway, if they were aiming for the European competition spots.
In the end, Celta Vigo seemed capable of playing as well as they showed in most of their pre-season games. But in the second week, Celta Vigo will face a team that is stronger than Alavez, namely Valencia. And I'm not sure Celta Vigo will win next week.

Currently the Las Palmas vs Sevilla match is taking place. And it seems that at the start of this match, which was only the 7th minute, we could immediately see that Sevilla were controlling the match very well. Not only did they succeed in dominating the game, but Sevilla also looks like they will continue to attack the Las Palmas defense more.

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August 16, 2024, 08:05:34 PM
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At the moment Danny Olmo is still not registered and will not take part in Barcelona's first game against Valencia and I think that if Barcelona could have registered him, they would have done it already, because it is unlikely that Barcelona would have paid 60 million euros for him.
Although Flick says that Olmo is not fit yet, but I think it is just a formal excuse, because Olmo played his last match more than a month ago in the final of the European Championship and it is unlikely that he has not had time to recover yet.

To be honest, in the past week I have not followed the development of La Liga, as well as the situation of Dani Olmo. It's just that a situation like this reminds us of when Xavi also had difficulty registering some of his new arrivals, but they registered them in the end. I'm sure at least Barcelona has prepared in advance, even though Flick as Barca's coach made a statement saying that Olmo is not fit. It could be, it's just to reduce the commotion. Barcelona will start their match tomorrow away to Valencia's headquarters, if Olmo is not registered, it means he cannot be played. Maybe that's why Hansi Flick was appointed to say that Olmo is not fit. It's just a matter of time, maybe the day after tomorrow Barca will solve it. If not, why would they bring in Olmo if he can't be registered.

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August 16, 2024, 08:11:05 PM
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Without having to worry about betting on Barca and Real Madrid's victory, although it is a bit difficult to predict the Osasuna vs Leganés match, but believe me Osasuna will appear at home and can collect the first 3 points.
As long as Osasuna is consistent, I am sure victory will be easy to get
Barça and Real Madrid should also not be able to lose points because at the beginning of the season like this, popular clubs usually take advantage of the unstable conditions of other clubs.

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August 16, 2024, 08:29:31 PM
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Pre-season friendlies and their results dictate nothing. Even if a team loses all their matches, we can't write them off. Pre season is all about coaches finding out the right players in their starting XIs. Testing out as many players as they can. That's what preseason is all about.

If talking about Barcelona and Real Madrid specifically, they had decent preseasons each. Both teams have a decent squad to work with, especially Real. A lot of talents to browse through, and star players too. They kicked off well and might end up with 1/2 trophies in the end. Barca also trying their best to find the sweet spot, with a new gaffer in the club. La Liga should be interesting in 24/25, with Atletico also strengthening their team.
I do believe this to be 100% true, there are so many people who do not see this as a way of getting out, and because of that I think it's clear that we are going to end up with some issues we are not very much aware of, that's the most important point. I believe that we are going to end up with some results that will be good enough, and because of that we need to be careful with what we do, and if we know what we are doing then we are not going to be bothered at all.

We could keep this going as much as we can, and we are not going to end up with any comical level of problems, it is going to be quite good one way or another, that's the outlook when you are a good team. Even if you lose all your friendly games, you are still a great team anyway.

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The Bilbao side have themselves to blame on this 1-1 draw, this is the first game of the season and every team would want to get all 3 point just to be at the top of the log but the manager Valverde gambled with the game, knowing quite well that the Getafe side also are hungry to make a statement and also want to get all 3pt, now you have see how difficult the defense line of your opponent are and the midfield down to the attacker are stronger and doing better than your team, why not bring in your attacking power Nico Williams to combine with his brother to make something happen but he waited till it was late, there was nothing to do with how the away team was pressing and defending, it was well planned by Getafe.
The away team played better to even put more pressure on the host and I was expecting a win but they (Getafe) were unlucky to not convert some of their chances and these guys became more faster than we used to know them, I just hope they continue like this to cause more problems to their opponent in the next game.
I don't understand what strategy Valverde implemented because he benched Nico Williams and played him as a substitute. In fact, if you look at Nico Williams' big role, he can certainly trouble the opponent's defense if he is given the opportunity to play in the early minutes. Of course this is a big loss for Bilbao because in the first match they wasted the opportunity to get 3 points because they were playing at home and were also able to dominate the game but in the end they had to share the results with Getafe.

In another match, Girona also drew against Betis with a final score of 1-1.  Losing Dovbyk has disappointed us because he was the star player they sold in this transfer window. I think Girona will not be as strong as last season because their strength is not completely good in today's match.

Three matches have been played in the La Liga competition so far. If I talk about the first 2, both of them have been drawn. I really thought we were going to see a win in the Girona match. Because you know Girona has performed well in the last season. But I guess as this is the start of the season, they are a bit rusty. As the season progresses, they will start to perform better. But if they actually want to have good competition for the La Liga title, they will have to win matches like these. Because otherwise there is going to be a big difference in terms of points created between them and Barcelona or Real Madrid. The next match for Girona is going to be against Atletico Madrid and that is going to be much harder.

In today's match between Las Palmas vs Sevilla seems it will also end up as drawn, both teams produced 1 own goal each lol  Cheesy

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August 16, 2024, 09:08:37 PM
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At the moment Danny Olmo is still not registered and will not take part in Barcelona's first game against Valencia and I think that if Barcelona could have registered him, they would have done it already, because it is unlikely that Barcelona would have paid 60 million euros for him.
Although Flick says that Olmo is not fit yet, but I think it is just a formal excuse, because Olmo played his last match more than a month ago in the final of the European Championship and it is unlikely that he has not had time to recover yet.

To be honest, in the past week I have not followed the development of La Liga, as well as the situation of Dani Olmo. It's just that a situation like this reminds us of when Xavi also had difficulty registering some of his new arrivals, but they registered them in the end. I'm sure at least Barcelona has prepared in advance, even though Flick as Barca's coach made a statement saying that Olmo is not fit. It could be, it's just to reduce the commotion. Barcelona will start their match tomorrow away to Valencia's headquarters, if Olmo is not registered, it means he cannot be played. Maybe that's why Hansi Flick was appointed to say that Olmo is not fit. It's just a matter of time, maybe the day after tomorrow Barca will solve it. If not, why would they bring in Olmo if he can't be registered.

Sure enough, it doesn't make sense for Barcelona to recruit Dani Olmo just to fill the bench, Barcelona management can definitely find a solution to register him in La Liga. In fact, it's not only Dani Olmo who has not been registered, several old players also have the same fate, and I think this problem can be solved. However, Dani Olmo seems to be going to miss Barcelona first match against Valencia, regardless of whether he is not fit or not registered, what is clear is that Barcelona management has succeeded in trying to add depth to the squad by recruiting new players. it is worthy of appreciation because they are in a financial crisis.

Meanwhile, the good news comes from Pedri, the player is reportedly back available, although I am sure Hansi Flick will not immediately give him playing minutes as a starter. while Gavi, Ronald Araujo, Frenkie de Jong, and Ansu Fati are still in the recovery stage. However, Barcelona chances of winning the first match against Valencia are quite high, although Hansi Flick must only use the available players. On paper there is no excessive worry, Barcelona are likely to secure full points to mark their campaign under the new manager, a narrow win is enough to take home 3 points tomorrow.

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What Xavi was worried about seems to have happened. He spoke the truth but his words actually infuriated his boss and got him fired because of it.

Now Barcelona must find a way to get fresh funds and I think it wouldn't be strange if in the near time, there will be some players who may be sold to solve that problem. There have even been rumors that De Jong has been linked with Man United again.

Fresh funds or you mean fresh loan, isn't like there is an assurance like if they sign Danny Olmo they are going to win the Laliga but a adjustment of the players to fit into where they lack and even with that, Flick can manipulate his formation and get things right unless he is worst than Xavi they should have maintained for the Job. It was this same frustration funds and the club owners been too pocket tight that made him left the club for where they are right now.

Barcelona hasn't won any recognized European League trophy as of recent and that means there is nothing to show as working to get fresh loans since tbe previous once are not yet settled. They will have to just manage these set of players until the half way of the season before they can sign more players in the next phase of market transfer which is going to be around January again.

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Pre-season friendlies and their results dictate nothing. Even if a team loses all their matches, we can't write them off. Pre season is all about coaches finding out the right players in their starting XIs. Testing out as many players as they can. That's what preseason is all about.

If talking about Barcelona and Real Madrid specifically, they had decent preseasons each. Both teams have a decent squad to work with, especially Real. A lot of talents to browse through, and star players too. They kicked off well and might end up with 1/2 trophies in the end. Barca also trying their best to find the sweet spot, with a new gaffer in the club. La Liga should be interesting in 24/25, with Atletico also strengthening their team.
I think a have a slightly different opinion from yours concerning the prospective performance of the clubs you mentioned in this new season. Barcelona if you ask me doesn't look like the team that's found the rhythm to challenge for the league title this season. Looking at the Barcelona team and the fact that they do not have a natural winger in the left side of attack, I do not think they can challenge Real Madrid for the league title this season. There's no doubt that Barcelona is one of the most successful clubs in the league but without being sentimental, I think Atletico Madrid posseses more threat than the Catalonian club. Real Madrid won the Spanish La Liga title last season but a critical look at the team and quality of players at the club manager's disposal, I'll be extremely shocked if Real Madrid fails to retain the league title

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August 16, 2024, 09:59:27 PM
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It wasn't just Olmo who had problems registering for the season, but three other players namely Martinez, Torre, Pau Victor and Alex Valle and it's unclear what will happen now.
If Barcelona need 60 million to register Olmo then Laporta is in big trouble.
It's good that at least Ansu Fati and Langlais could be registered and now in case of sale or rent, Barcelona can spend the money according to the rule “1+1”, but still I think 60 million will not be easy for Barcelona to find before the start of the season.

Every season, there are reports that Barcelona cannot register their players so they might have to send them on loan or sell them, but every season Barcelona always register their players. I think these things are stale now because there is no way a club like Barcelona will sign a player when there is no way to register that player. Remember when they couldn't register Lionel Messi, they didn't bother giving him a new contract. Barcelona will still register all their players. 


At the moment Danny Olmo is still not registered and will not take part in Barcelona's first game against Valencia and I think that if Barcelona could have registered him, they would have done it already, because it is unlikely that Barcelona would have paid 60 million euros for him.
Although Flick says that Olmo is not fit yet, but I think it is just a formal excuse, because Olmo played his last match more than a month ago in the final of the European Championship and it is unlikely that he has not had time to recover yet.
I know that some people are ready to criticize Barcelona only because Olmo hasnt been registered yet. Hey, we're not talking about any random team here; this is Barcelona. The ones doing it are experts. Dont you think they've already signed Torre and Martinez, two important players? What this means is that they are constructing a winning team, making wise decisions, and keeping the books in order

Is Flick's review of Olmo's fitness still up for debate? This isnt a bargain that was made in a backroom, trust me. Barcelona is home to some of the world's top doctors and hospitals. The reason Olmo isnt prepared is his own lack of preparation, not a secret they're trying to hide. When you bring in a guy of Olmo's caliber, it takes some time to settle in. They should check his fitness, strategies, and team chemistry to make sure he's ready. Be patient; it will be worth it in the end

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August 16, 2024, 10:03:02 PM
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Without having to worry about betting on Barca and Real Madrid's victory, although it is a bit difficult to predict the Osasuna vs Leganés match, but believe me Osasuna will appear at home and can collect the first 3 points.
As long as Osasuna is consistent, I am sure victory will be easy to get
Barça and Real Madrid should also not be able to lose points because at the beginning of the season like this, popular clubs usually take advantage of the unstable conditions of other clubs.

Current odds.
* Osasuna @ 1.88
* Real Madrid @ 1.46
* Barcelona @ 1.7
The way the odds are even placed by Stake.com, it becomes obvious that even Stake.com is confident in Madrid and Barcelona winning their first la Liga games of the season, of a Truth it's very possible too with osasuna winning their own game too, they aren't a weak side but they aren't a tough one either. Getting a good start at the beginning of the season is of utmost importance as it will give that good starting point for the team so in the days of decline, they will still have a reason not to fall really terribly, its normal for all other big teams to take advantage of the smaller ones to win their games at the beginning of the season.

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