Gear Pricing just becomes more irrational then ever

[judypug1956]

In about 24 hours my innosilicon t3 t50 will officially be shipping late.

I could cancel this and leave minefarmbuy hanging as I did a paypal order with my philipma1957 account. I like minefarmbuy  so I will wait a bit before I cancel order.

I have a good relation ship with minefarmbuy and would like to keep it that way.

this is my alt account.

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[Biffa]

I have some orders due as well, I emailed inno support and they said that my orders will ship "by the next week"

Hopefully this gives you some small semblance of hope  

[judypug1956]

yeah I hope for next week.  by then my my 2 s9's are close to shipping and I can add 70-80th to the setup.

[minefarmbuy]

Yea, hopefully we get an update come Sunday/Monday for the single units. Everything bulk has shipped already.  .. .  :/

[thierry4wd]

Checking out bitmain store as I do once in a while, I can agree with philipma1957, the prices are totally nuts.

To me, it seems like bitmain is going the way of big electronics producers and is launching tens of models with a slightly different number and some slightly different specs just to fool you into thinking one of them is a bargain.
What the hell is with those things:

Antminer S9k-13.5TH/s   Hashrate: 13.5TH/s   Shipping date: 20-30, Sep. 2019   $310.00
Antminer S9k-14TH/s      Hashrate: 14TH/s      Shipping in 7                                $464.00
Antminer S9j-14.5TH/s    Hashrate: 14.5TH/s   Shipping in 7                                $479.00

I'm right now looking for 20 minutes at those prices and I really have the impression they are f with us

So if you choose the s9k with 14th which would whip on the 7 you pay 50% more than the s9k with 13.5th that ships barely two weeks after?
Obviously the difference doesn't come from the hashrate since with just 15$ you can get 0.5 th more also on the s9j...

Not even mentioning the s9 se which they claim has new generation chips but the efficiency is all over the place and not matching any other unit.

yes i agree, i know, the S9K and the S9SE is the SAME MACHINE !!! with new chip (10nm ? 7nm?) because ? just look the freq !!!

S9K and S9SE are 180chips, (the standard S9 are 189chips) ... is the reason i thinks are new chip size ...

For exemple, S9 show arround 14 000ghs with 650mhz
--------------  S9SE show arround 16 000ghs with arround 460mhz
-------------- S9K show arround 14 000ghs with arround 380mhz

For conclusion, i thinks, the S9K and S9SE are same machine, the S9SE are higher frequency and downvoltage compare to S9K !!!

[vb2005]

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We are so fucking over priced with the s17 it is crazy 😜

S9    The 2017 3000/45 = 67 days with free power
S17 The 2019  4000/15 = 267 days with free power.

So with the numbers above for the s17 to equal the 2017 price   Coins need to,go from 11300 to  well over 35000

So if the gear pricing is correct then coins will moon.

Unfortunately the BTC price does not care about hardware prices. What happens here is that the little greedy bas-ard from Bitmain wants miners to take the risk if BTC price does not rise and he to take the profits - if you buy overpriced new asic miners - you take the risk and the manufacturer take the guaranteed profits. If BTC price goes up you and bitmain will be happy but if the BTC price drops bitmain took the money and you loose. So the solution here is to NOT buy new asics and instead just buy BTC. If BTC stay at current levels you will ROI the S17 after more than a year - no thanks. And it seems other manufacturers change their prices based on bitmain's prices so all new models are overpriced. But BTC price most probably will rise and people who bought new miners will make profits but not so much as manufacturers. On the other side i have no idea what is the manufacturer's cost to produce new models - maybe they have good reasons for higher prices - not just greed. Anyway with such high prices for new asics i dont expect a large number of to be sold - manufacturers are out of stock now but this is because of 300% rise in BTC price since April.

[philipma1957]

If you are a miner with cheap power never never never never buy a coin out right.

I can buy s9s at 300 and with my power deal it is far better then buying a coin for 9500.

I ordered some s9s they will do fine as for companies like Inno that is now a day late for my t3 t50.

They robbed about 12 dollars for that one day late.
Considering they did ship to others but not to me I will keep a running total public for all to see.