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August 27, 2019, 09:31:52 AM
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His ego has brought himself into a trap, he wanted to twist the facts to get institutions claiming he is satoshi to collect his coins and his fame. The boomerang keeps hitting back on his forehead and he digs an increasingly deeper holes of lies.
Agree with you and its true that he tried his best to gain everyone's attention by claiming as real satoshi. There was a time when news about him was quite popular on cryptoworld and i think it was his real target. Day by day people's have discovered the real drama which was nothing but garbage in real.

I don't know when he come again to be breaking news with another bunch of lies Smiley


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August 27, 2019, 09:47:39 AM
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I guess this is all for Craig Wrights Publicity stunt, He would surely want to be well known in my opinion that is why he would do something like this, now he got our attention by surely giving his identity as the one to call the shots in creating Bitcoin, But again claiming something that doesn't belong to him would surely come to a conclusion of liability,

And this is never been new to me and I have known Wright because of the forum and now after claiming that he is Satoshi just don't really hit me, Maybe because there is no viable statement and I really don't feel any unlikely to be him as Satoshi, Because Nakamoto will not gonna take away his security and his comfort zone in revealing himself.
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August 27, 2019, 11:24:17 AM
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I'm not sure if you can decisively conclude that he is a fraud from the outcome of this hearing. As far as I am aware of the only correct conclusion for now is that the judge will recommend that half of the Bitcoin mined by CSW (before December 31, 2013) should be given to Kleiman as well as some IP.

For many people it would get more interesting if CSW would be asked to e.g. sign a message with Satoshi keys, no?

Personally I will keep developing for BSV as well as I think the project actually has some good ideas behind it and from that point of view I hope it stays Smiley
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August 27, 2019, 12:35:34 PM
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What a news! Although it's not something surprising for everyone since we already know that craig wright's claims were not really true to start with. But it's funny that his lies didn't do nor cause him anything good and only led him to this.
This is how Mr (Dr.) Wright putting its ends towards crypto. Nobody believes him now, the lies coming from his mount it totally making no sense at all and I'm sure no one could pretend to listen to him. He's only one ( or two) who had bad claims toward crypto but we are too many to think and believe how  crypto could change us.
Let see how Mr. Wright take actions as he faces in court and hopefully we will pay to Kleiman.

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August 27, 2019, 12:41:16 PM
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This is not new and we all know this from the beginning. And i talk about Craig Wright. The court today official announce that he is a fraud and call him to pay the half of this bitcoin that supposed to hold with Kleiman. That means 500k bitcoin and that means that craig wright fell to his own lies.
Of course this bitcoin never exist from the first place.
The most laughable was this Cheesy


"Dr.Wright is Dishonest. He is a Serial Forger!"

(we all know that even his Dr is a lie)... Tongue

https://twitter.com/PeterMcCormack/status/1166086602441068544

I like to remind everyo who was first introduce this scammer fraudster to bitcoin community.
It was Gavin, he never say public that Wright is not satoshi, and Matonis.
What a huge price to pay for a troll and the worst part is most of the people didn't even believe his lie's and now he have to pay for it.
Better luck to the next Faketoshi's out there hope y'all ready for a great price in the future .
Better start saving money for the court .

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August 27, 2019, 12:50:18 PM
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With this I guess he must change name from Craig Wright to “Craig Wrong”? 😂

Though we already expect this from the beginning still there’s a Happiness that after all the misleading and dishonesty now he will pay for all the damage

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August 27, 2019, 01:44:24 PM
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it is as they say "if you dig one ditch, you better dig two".
Craig Wright tried so hard for the past two years to scam people and steal their money and now he is at the bottom of the ditch that he dug for him and is going to pay for it.

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August 27, 2019, 07:02:01 PM
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saw an article regarding this topic earlier and I wasn't surprised about the result of the case. it's about time CSW shut his mouth up.
I just can't believe the length people will go to just to get money.

I read the latest spin on this, is his loss on the trial means that the Judge has 'proved' he now is Satoshi!

Talk about putting a spin on things say the Craig Wright apologists! sheesh!

https://bitcoinist.com/with-50-percent-btc-to-be-forfeited-will-craig-wright-stop-playing-satoshi-now/

The most 'likely' result of this is that Craig Wright will say on Jan 1st, 2020 when supposedly he has access to the Satoshi Tulip Fund.

That the so-called 'Trustees' are not to be found! Gasp! They have run off with the private keys! Gasp! Alas, poor me with my 'bad' luck!

But he will still claim he is Satoshi! Send BTC to help me morn my loss! The trustee betrayal will now prove I'm Satoshi. (See altered docs) Smiley

The other part, that Craig Wright actually does have access to the Tulip Fund, well, that is too horrible to contemplate!

Ack! I scared myself with that last line above! Ack!

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August 27, 2019, 07:26:56 PM
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Imho he's officially a fraud since the point he was unable to properly sign that message with Satoshi's keys.
Did anything change since then? Nothing. Just media noise.
Bitcoin goes on. And CSW goes.. deeper and deeper down.

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August 27, 2019, 10:57:51 PM
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Imho he's officially a fraud since the point he was unable to properly sign that message with Satoshi's keys.
Did anything change since then? Nothing. Just media noise.
Bitcoin goes on. And CSW goes.. deeper and deeper down.
That is ridiculous. This it sounds like Craig Wright uses crypto to promote his name in media and be known in the public. This is some kind of media plays and nothing to take it seriously.
As Mr. Wright become officially fraud, then I'm officially not listening to him about crypto, neither. He is not actually a bad guy but he is putting himself to be bad to look at. 

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August 28, 2019, 01:47:27 AM
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I like to remind everyo who was first introduce this scammer fraudster to bitcoin community.
It was Gavin, he never say public that Wright is not satoshi, and Matonis
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In fairness to him, he already posted this blog and left it to the reader to decide, http://gavinandresen.ninja/either-or-ignore

Although yes, an open declaration, like Roger Ver did, would have been convincing.

I like to remind everyo who was first introduce this scammer fraudster to bitcoin community.
It was Gavin, he never say public that Wright is not satoshi, and Matonis.

it was actually nick szabo trace mayer that introduced wright.
well before the media drama of the australian tax fraud stuff happened wright(then a stranger to the community)
made a remote videocall(skype).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdvQTwjVmrE
wright then doxxed himself to press to raise his profile and then moved to the uk to start the satoshi fraud.. it was not until he was in the uk did the gavin/ matonis stuff occur


No, that video shows no introduction from Nick Szabo or Trace Mayer. They were only in a panel together.

Ask the man,

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August 28, 2019, 02:23:31 AM
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I remember that panel. Dude was introduced out of nowhere. Trace and Szabo were there, they had nothing to do with getting him on that Skype call. It must have been a Matonis connection there I guess. I reckon he was introduced as an early miner or something.

What interests me now is what is the current state of the Paul Solotshi Calder LeRoux. Word around town was that CSW was trying to bruteforce on his HDD which allegedly had satoshi's wallet... history got increasingly comboluted to follow.
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August 28, 2019, 05:13:25 AM
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Well its been over a day since the trial and looking at the markets including BSV it seems that 99% of the people already knew that Craig was never Satoshi.

Basically if he actually was Satoshi then a massive sell-off would happen since the estate would have to pay taxes on those BTC holdings and the taxes alone would be in the billions and the market wouldn't be able to absorb all that selling especially if it happened in a short time-frame.

I think unless we start seeing some old 2009 Bitcoin coinbase public address start moving 50 BTC around and being sent to a single party where it adds up to 400K BTC then there won't be any panic in the markets. However like everybody has mentioned here before. Most likely he is not Satoshi and those BTC aren't his.

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August 28, 2019, 05:34:54 AM
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Well its been over a day since the trial and looking at the markets including BSV it seems that 99% of the people already knew that Craig was never Satoshi.

that's the thing with centralized altcoins, their price has nothing to do with what is going on in the real world. their price is 100% manipulated by the owners that are fully controlling the chain and the market both. that is why it has not yet disappeared, they are keeping it alive artificially. and with each pump and dump others also join in because they want profit and don't care about anything else.

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August 28, 2019, 07:59:54 AM
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Finally that's official, I don't think he can still cause some FUD or FOMO in the space, I hope people will not anymore get fooled by this man.
No Satoshi, he isn't the real one and we will never know the real satoshi, everyone who claims they are satoshi are fake, including this one of course which is now declared as an official liar.

I wonder what will happen with BSV.

I think the opposite of this https://cryptoslate.com/bitcoin-sv-pumps-after-fake-craig-wright-satoshi-news-tricks-chinese-investors/

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Finally that's official, I don't think he can still cause some FUD or FOMO in the space, I hope people will not anymore get fooled by this man.
No Satoshi, he isn't the real one and we will never know the real satoshi, everyone who claims they are satoshi are fake, including this one of course which is now declared as an official liar.

I wonder what will happen with BSV.

I think the opposite of this https://cryptoslate.com/bitcoin-sv-pumps-after-fake-craig-wright-satoshi-news-tricks-chinese-investors/

It's either a desperate move on his part of someone took advantage of the situation created a fake news and then take the profits when BSV hits $200. Just sad that a lot of investors are duped by this fraudsters again. I guess we can all rest the case as it is now official that CW is not Satoshi. He could file for an appeal but it doesn't change the fact he is faketoshi.

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August 28, 2019, 06:07:26 PM
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The next thing that I would like to hear now is that he was officially jailed because he is really a fraud and I knew that he wanted to defraud people more when he claimed that he was satoshi, I am sure that he was trying to get attention of people to bsv so that they can invest for the value to climb and give him the opportunity to dump that his plenty investment that he has in bsv.

I am sure that by now he would have learnt his lessons that it is not good to go about things in a fraudulent way now he will be losing a lot of money for no reason, they just need to teach him lesson more and make him spend some times in jail, maybe that will also teach some of the people that are impersonating satoshi to withdraw before they plan that which they want to do.
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August 28, 2019, 07:59:43 PM
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The next thing that I would like to hear now is that he was officially jailed because he is really a fraud and I knew that he wanted to defraud people more when he claimed that he was satoshi, I am sure that he was trying to get attention of people to bsv so that they can invest for the value to climb and give him the opportunity to dump that his plenty investment that he has in bsv.

I am sure that by now he would have learnt his lessons that it is not good to go about things in a fraudulent way now he will be losing a lot of money for no reason, they just need to teach him lesson more and make him spend some times in jail, maybe that will also teach some of the people that are impersonating satoshi to withdraw before they plan that which they want to do.

That's just it. This is a 'civil' case in the USA and he is from Australia. He, IMHO, can just be playing the 'long con and when 1/1/2020 comes along, he will say the following.

More or less in this order.

(1) Around January 1st, 2020 he will announce a 'delay' on accessing the 'supposed Tulip Fund and his 'supposed' Bitcoin access due to legal and tax reasons and the uncertainty

of 'supposed 2019 USA taxes clarification on cryptocurrency and Bitcoin. That will kill at least a year, if not more time, for the 'big con' and stall.

(2) After the above, he will then say he has run into difficulties with exactly 'how much' BTC there is in the various 'supposed' Tulip Fund BTC addresses and such. Again, for

tax purposes.  Then, of course, there is how to distribute the funds that he lost in the lawsuit and to his partners who have floated this scam for him for years, etc. Note: the

mt. Gox distribution has taken what, 4 years? Also, don't forget he can bring up tax issues again for the USA yet, on this new conundrum and also Australia and the United Kingdom,

which he has lived for awhile. Again, all this and 'still' not proving he even has any access to any original Satoshi Bitcoin Address of any kind.

(3) He could also lie (gasp!) and say he has decided to NOT sell all his BTC and NOT by selling much at all get around the above tax burdens in mass on the above messes

in (1) and (2) above he claims. He will however then say that he WILL be pulling all the BCH and BSV OUT of his wallets. Not sure when of course, see some issues on above

(1) and (2) etc, further kicking his actual proof of owning any keys down the road. Even IF he has NO access to Bitcoin keys, by that point he may have enough access to BTC he has

mined and/or has converted from BSV at the high, back in the day, with partners in last 2 years or so. Thus the long con would be to take that BTC ..strip out the BCH and BSV and then

dump the BCH and claim the run has started and he is dumping all BCH from his now supposedly accessible Tulip Trust soon after, a test of market conditions, using, of course, NON-Tulip

Trust Bitcoin for tax purposes and see how it goes. Gonna use the last out on Bitcoin, I've mined since 2017 don't ya know, as a test before dumping the 2009 BTC don't ya know.

Thus on this  supposed panic he has created FUD that can pump BSV and sell it high and drive BCH down massively. Reaping the rewards for a time.

(4) After that he says he has changed his mind and WILL release a mass amount of Bitcoin in that tax issues and such have been solved and also he will now dump a bunch

he owes $2 billion to the Klieman estate and also at least $1 Billion? for USA and Australia and United Kingdom taxes. Then on this 'supposed move, he will drive BSV up in

price and thus dump at the high again. Are you seeing a rinse/wash/repeat pattern?

(5) Alas after say about 3 years of the above, and NOW finally saying he has everything now in order, he has tried to get the Bitcoin out of the Tulip Trust and alas!

He has been betrayed by the trustees of the fund, lost keys, took off with keys, our 'soon to be benevolent alien overlords, take your pick, etc, etc.

Alas, such bad luck, so sorry. Thus, he has dumped or is dumping BSV on these actions, he has no choice, none of the coins he dumps will be Bitcoin coins from the Klieman

the settlement, those, of course, are 'lost' so sorry. Also, from these last 3 years of future drama, say till 2023 of these games, he probably could use this con to at least get say (IMHO)

about $1 billion dollars USD from all this drama/BTC/bch/bsv manipulation/bsv selling on high on artificial pumps etc, etc. Maybe more if he secretly does believe in BTC and is just

using this long con to fill his HODL hoard.

Thus even after paying off his partners in crime he still could clear $1/2 Billion USD (IMHO)  in Bitcoin and if he DOES HODL that (hey, by that time he has destroyed BCH and BSV)

has to go someplace. Thus with the supposed 'technical' fixes by Bitcoin Core in the next 3 years he now claims, he has a 'come to Jesus' moment and Bitcoin Core is just dandy

and as Satoshi, he is pleased they have now seen the light and is going to jump back in and lead Bitcoin Core into the future! ( I threw up a little bit in my throat on typing this) Sad

Indeed, he could write a tell-all, book, from an un-extraditable nation and probably have a best seller for another 1/2 million best seller!

This is just what comes to mind, and I'm a fairly honest fellow, I'm sure he has much better skills in this than myself, thus it will likely be much worse than any of the above.

Of course, the 'worst' is if he actually is the last man alive from the Satoshi Group and has full access to the Bitcoin Tulip Fund in 1/1/2020...but the universe could not be that cruel!

(shudder!)

What do you all think? Is this too far fetched? Will he crash and burn sooner or later or never? Will he play this and some folk like a fiddle as the master of scam and FUD?

Above is all supposition on my part, but he has options to play this into a long con for some dubious uses on the crypto/BTC community.

How much success he has I've no idea, but I'm damn sure he is gonna try like hell!

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August 29, 2019, 02:40:28 AM
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Finally that's official, I don't think he can still cause some FUD or FOMO in the space, I hope people will not anymore get fooled by this man.
No Satoshi, he isn't the real one and we will never know the real satoshi, everyone who claims they are satoshi are fake, including this one of course which is now declared as an official liar.

I wonder what will happen with BSV.

I think the opposite of this https://cryptoslate.com/bitcoin-sv-pumps-after-fake-craig-wright-satoshi-news-tricks-chinese-investors/


Believe it or not there's still many people bagholding their BSV. Similarly to Craig Wright's problems, BSV backholders (and pretty much any shitcoin bagholder, specially forks) have too much of an ego to admit defeat. Those are exactly the people that go down with the ship. They had many opportunities to jump and get saved by dumping in exchange of Bitcoin while they had the opportunity to do so, but no, they thought they were going to defeat Bitcoin, they thought they were the real Bitcoin, they thought they were "the next big thing" and so on.

Once 2020 is here and absolutely nothing happens, they will look for excuses and keep kicking the can waiting for "the flippening".

You can't save CSW as much as you can't save shitcoin bagholders, they share the same insolvable problems.
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August 29, 2019, 02:51:39 AM
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Finally that's official, I don't think he can still cause some FUD or FOMO in the space, I hope people will not anymore get fooled by this man.
No Satoshi, he isn't the real one and we will never know the real satoshi, everyone who claims they are satoshi are fake, including this one of course which is now declared as an official liar.

I wonder what will happen with BSV.

I think the opposite of this https://cryptoslate.com/bitcoin-sv-pumps-after-fake-craig-wright-satoshi-news-tricks-chinese-investors/


Believe it or not there's still many people bagholding their BSV. Similarly to Craig Wright's problems, BSV backholders (and pretty much any shitcoin bagholder, specially forks) have too much of an ego to admit defeat. Those are exactly the people that go down with the ship. They had many opportunities to jump and get saved by dumping in exchange of Bitcoin while they had the opportunity to do so, but no, they thought they were going to defeat Bitcoin, they thought they were the real Bitcoin, they thought they were "the next big thing" and so on.

Once 2020 is here and absolutely nothing happens, they will look for excuses and keep kicking the can waiting for "the flippening".

You can't save CSW as much as you can't save shitcoin bagholders, they share the same insolvable problems.


A lot of people HODL BCH and BSV from their old BTC Addresses in the USA in that it is NOT clear yet how the IRS will tax this stuff falling from the sky! So it is better to just

let these sh*tcoin's ride, rather than move them out to something else and expose yourself to unknow tax problems or other issues. My CPA says you can't get burnt if you

just leave it the hell alone.

Anyway, what I'm doing and so others have said. Kinda a big Meh! It fell on a person's BTC Blockchain roof..if it stays and adds value somehow, well meh! If it slides off the

blockchain roof without any value someday, well meh! Most of us have missed so many boats since 2013 on either buy or sell or whatever at this point in time or that particular

coin launch (like ETH) that we are like the Pregnant Waitress waving at the fleet from the dock as they sail off to war, hoping someone waves back!

So again, meh!

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