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August 28, 2019, 09:45:15 PM
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He really misses the train. Dan Pena says nothing but only ruining what we would like to in the future.
He never understands about crypto cause he never gives a chance to put his life into with. Not this https://www.quora.com/Dan-Pena-says-bitcoin-is-going-to-zero-but-why could make people be in FOMO. He is only spreading FUDs, we know the truth and the reality that Bitcoin won't go into zero value.

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August 29, 2019, 03:10:47 PM
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Hy there guys ! Peace & Love to all of you !!!
I just heard Dan Pena saying that he knows 100% who's behind Bitcoin and that if you would knew you would run and sell !!! That if you knew who was behind Bitcoin you couldnt sleep at nigh !
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They are really taking this silence of satoshi for granted and saying all sort of annoying things that is not real, if he said this same thing some months again and other that I have even herd someone with satoshi, and yet they still have not revealed his identity. Dan pena should come out and say it, we have seen worst FUD news that is more than this and nothing has happened, it is better we know who the person is once and for all and get over it, that is if he really knows who the person is.

They are just doing all these to really create FUD new for bitcoin so that they can get the chance to buy at a lower price and I think we have already gone past this stage where anyone can just come to the market to pull our legs unnecessarily. We will not buy into his opinion, not wanted.
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Hy there guys ! Peace & Love to all of you !!!
I just heard Dan Pena saying that he knows 100% who's behind Bitcoin and that if you would knew you would run and sell !!! That if you knew who was behind Bitcoin you couldnt sleep at nigh !
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look at the guy's age:

Daniel Steven Peña Sr. [1] (born August 10, 1945)

look at his life story:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Pe%C3%B1a

The guy is from a time when technology was not so advanced, and now he is very old and will hardly have time to spend hours at the computer to read and learn about bitcoin. I'm not saying he's not smart, but I'm saying that many rich people over 60 have problems accepting bitcoin

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August 29, 2019, 05:28:25 PM
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Hy there guys ! Peace & Love to all of you !!!
I just heard Dan Pena saying that he knows 100% who's behind Bitcoin and that if you would knew you would run and sell !!! That if you knew who was behind Bitcoin you couldnt sleep at nigh !
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August 29, 2019, 06:03:52 PM
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Who? Who is Dan Pena exactly? To tell you the truth its the first time im hearing the name Dan Pena in my hear and it doesn't even ring any bell in my mind. I think its safe to say that this is one of the nocoiners making a name for himself in the community. It will always be noise with their non-factual opinion on why Bitcoin will go down. They don't even have something convincing that will make me believe in them. I just want Bitcoin to go up so that this guy and his fellow nocoiners will eat their words amd hide in their houses.
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August 29, 2019, 06:07:26 PM
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Bitcoin going down to zero? Everything is possible but this is one of the impossible predictions I have come across in my whole life. I don't even expect bitcoin to fall to $3000 again. I think he just said this to please his mind and to be added to those that have predicted doom for bitcoin.
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August 29, 2019, 06:09:09 PM
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He said this few months ago but didn't made that much noise. The statement he said that its a russian conspiracy but how many believed in him?

Aren't we tired hearing the same conspiracy and opinion that bitcoin will go to zero? we have heard it many times and yet bitcoin is soaring.
Just already like a normal day to hear up these conspiracy shit things around.Yes, we have seen countless of them but bitcoins price does go into the opposite way on what they are talking into.

Going back to 0? We aren't saying that it cant but basing on 10 years journey going back to cent price is almost an impossible thing to happen.We had seen countless attacks to bitcoin but its still stood firm after all these days.

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August 29, 2019, 06:46:41 PM
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Hy there guys ! Peace & Love to all of you !!!
I just heard Dan Pena saying that he knows 100% who's behind Bitcoin and that if you would knew you would run and sell !!! That if you knew who was behind Bitcoin you couldnt sleep at nigh !
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So another one that claims to know Satoshi?at least he didn’t claim to be another Bitcoin creator 😂

Don’t care what this Dan Pena says because I am ready for the risk.the very moment i put my money in crypto(specifically Bitcoin)I already place myself to whatever happen I will not cry 😂

And bitcoin will back to zero is very exaggerated word as former there will be a penny value when the Armageddon in crypto happens 👍👍👍









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August 30, 2019, 05:45:22 AM
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Hy there guys ! Peace & Love to all of you !!!
I just heard Dan Pena saying that he knows 100% who's behind Bitcoin and that if you would knew you would run and sell !!! That if you knew who was behind Bitcoin you couldnt sleep at nigh !
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To say this, it means to say nothing. Here it would be necessary to name at least some facts, so that there would be at least some kind of substantive conversation. Now it’s just an empty concussion. We already know that cryptocurrency has certain risks, so you should not invest all your money in it, go even quite significant.
Whoever stands behind Bitcoin is already accepted by a significant part of society and just does not disappear.

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September 01, 2019, 05:33:15 PM
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Hy there guys ! Peace & Love to all of you !!!
I just heard Dan Pena saying that he knows 100% who's behind Bitcoin and that if you would knew you would run and sell !!! That if you knew who was behind Bitcoin you couldnt sleep at nigh !
Opinions !?!

S/COULD/SHOULD be important for the BTC World ?!?
To say this, it means to say nothing. Here it would be necessary to name at least some facts, so that there would be at least some kind of substantive conversation. Now it’s just an empty concussion. We already know that cryptocurrency has certain risks, so you should not invest all your money in it, go even quite significant.
Whoever stands behind Bitcoin is already accepted by a significant part of society and just does not disappear.
There is no level of risk in cryptocurrency that would make the rising adoption of bitcoin to drop, and the more the adoption, the more that the value of bitcoin will appreciate because of the inflow of demands, so there is no one that would ever tell me that bitcoin can zero, how is that possible when we all have different timing, the time that I tied to my investment is different for the time you tied to your investment.

The only thing that can make bitcoin go down to that zero is when we have massive dumping by everyone here, and the only thing that would warrant such dumping is panic, which news can come to now that is more than what we have had in the past that will cause that great panic for anyone? Nothing bad can ever befall bitcoin again for it to go zero.
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September 02, 2019, 11:25:34 PM
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Bitcoin going down to zero? Everything is possible but this is one of the impossible predictions I have come across in my whole life. I don't even expect bitcoin to fall to $3000 again. I think he just said this to please his mind and to be added to those that have predicted doom for bitcoin.

It is not a prediction, but rather what the author really wanted to happen. So obviously, he didn't know that this technology is, he just wanted to have some controversy but we all know that bitcoin enthusiast will just laugh at this guy so called prediction. Is everyone here out of their mind to suddenly dump everything in the market in order to see the price goes to 0? I don't think so, just another guy to ignore in cyrptoverse, just saying.

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September 03, 2019, 05:04:26 PM
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That is the problem with legacy investors. They can't deal with bitcoin going up because that would mean people won't need them anymore, think about it right now people are spending BILLIONS of dollars on places like JP Morgan, they could just do whatever they want themselves on any exchange they want if they switched to bitcoin. Would that make exchanges like bitmex and binance richer instead of wall street? Sure. However that means we have the right to control our own investments at any amount we want and can change the exchanges however we like as well.

Wall street people are dead serious when they say they want bitcoin to go down, if it doesn't that means its the start of the end for wall street and whatever equals to that in every nation.
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The guy is from a time when technology was not so advanced, and now he is very old and will hardly have time to spend hours at the computer to read and learn about bitcoin. I'm not saying he's not smart, but I'm saying that many rich people over 60 have problems accepting bitcoin

That perspective is a bit cliche, we forget a large part of the world war 2 effort and success was down to code breaking using the first computers.   This modern generation didnt invent the idea, weren't the first to encounter cipher use daily; most of whats happened recently is development based on previous achievements by previous generations.
  My father is older then this guy and a very enthusiastic supporter of computer technology as mold breaking.   Attached to the government, he used some of the first end user computers with punch cards and similar level tech and even at that early stage it was game changing.   Its very possible previous generations still have the foresight to understand technology can alter substantially the lay of the land and balance of play.

The big deal now and probably the biggest generational change in my life time will be with the balance of power within Finance.   The current layout also goes back to ww2 and to change that system is going to alter the world, that part could be past the vision of almost anyone.  We are all so used to FIAT being dominant and based around nations not commerce that we cannot imagine anything else, I think thats true for someone who uses BTC every day even.  
   If someone is obsessed with BTC going to zero they are ignoring the elephant in the room which is the collapse from excess debt and instability of possibly several major currencies.   If they can at least contrast technology development with old monetary systems I can believe they are more accurate in their conclusions.
  Ditto when people say BTC is going to be a million per unit now because thats all we will use, thats just ignorance of the whole spectrum of possibilities for trade and monetary proxies society might find useful.

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September 08, 2019, 12:22:08 PM
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I think a lot of people can be speculate and claim anything that they want. But i will always believe with my analysis and take action from it. Maybe we can see especially in this forum, a lot of people who famous really make statement about bitcoin and maybe it can affect on bitcoin price when a lot of people believe it. For me actually it is little dangerous because there are some people who always take information without analyze first and can make them panic and sell their coins in cheap price.
It is actually possible because it depends on peoples mindset and knowledge, it can affect bitcoin positive or negatively. People nowadays usually do it especially newbies because they are still lack of understanding about the things that might affect the bitcoins price, that is the reason why we need to examine and study than believing in someones thoughts and opinion.

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September 08, 2019, 12:47:39 PM
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I think a lot of people can be speculate and claim anything that they want.
It is actually possible because it depends on peoples mindset

the price  ? yes if only all people will feel the same but not all people are going to get affected with this prediction  . some people only believe on thier own prediction so they tend to hodl therfor bitcoin's price will not directly dive to zero  .  i

 dont know if who is dan pena but his prediction are seem to be unrealistic anymore  .  its more unrealistic than warren and other bitcoin philosopher's   .
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September 08, 2019, 03:22:55 PM
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look at the guy's age:

Daniel Steven Peña Sr. [1] (born August 10, 1945)

look at his life story:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Pe%C3%B1a

The guy is from a time when technology was not so advanced, and now he is very old and will hardly have time to spend hours at the computer to read and learn about bitcoin. I'm not saying he's not smart, but I'm saying that many rich people over 60 have problems accepting bitcoin

Love this one.
There are too many old guys who are not open to this new technology anymore.
I am not saying there is something wrong with them but that is how they lived their life and up until now they want to go back to that era.
Yeah I feel him, I still want that old type private life without social media or anything.
Console games and computers are already eating the brains of the children. Grin

But to sum it up, this aint that reliable anymore. His prediction will be questioned a lot and I bet he cannot answer all of those anymore.
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September 08, 2019, 04:15:20 PM
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Hy there guys ! Peace & Love to all of you !!!
I just heard Dan Pena saying that he knows 100% who's behind Bitcoin and that if you would knew you would run and sell !!! That if you knew who was behind Bitcoin you couldnt sleep at nigh !
Opinions !?!

S/COULD/SHOULD be important for the BTC World ?!?
WHo cares for what he says?he don’t even gather much attention(except from you who need to post it literally like this)because people here now in crypto are more detailed in each issue thrown against bitcoin and their holding currencies

People are are aware of Fud and bad impressions just to make crypto in bad shape again and take advantage of situations to buy many more coins just because people panic sell by their agendas

Enough of this mate no one really cares with some of this type

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September 08, 2019, 05:31:15 PM
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look at the guy's age:

Daniel Steven Peña Sr. [1] (born August 10, 1945)

look at his life story:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Pe%C3%B1a

The guy is from a time when technology was not so advanced, and now he is very old and will hardly have time to spend hours at the computer to read and learn about bitcoin. I'm not saying he's not smart, but I'm saying that many rich people over 60 have problems accepting bitcoin

Love this one.
There are too many old guys who are not open to this new technology anymore.
I am not saying there is something wrong with them but that is how they lived their life and up until now they want to go back to that era.
Yeah I feel him, I still want that old type private life without social media or anything.
Console games and computers are already eating the brains of the children. Grin

But to sum it up, this aint that reliable anymore. His prediction will be questioned a lot and I bet he cannot answer all of those anymore.

Well, I totally agree with you, maybe technology is not for everyone, I do not blame it, there are very respected investors such as Warren Buffet, Donald Trump himself, who does not advise operating or investing with Bitcoin, there is also the case of JP Morgan(Typical bipolar), which made very bad publicity at a time of Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, and then announced that it would launch a cryptocurrency.

Unlike the greats like Warren Buffet and Trump, people that I respect because they have written books offering investment advice, others lack financial education, often ignorance is the most brazen of all the defects of the human being.

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September 08, 2019, 09:25:04 PM
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The guy is from a time when technology was not so advanced, and now he is very old and will hardly have time to spend hours at the computer to read and learn about bitcoin. I'm not saying he's not smart, but I'm saying that many rich people over 60 have problems accepting bitcoin

That perspective is a bit cliche, we forget a large part of the world war 2 effort and success was down to code breaking using the first computers.   This modern generation didnt invent the idea, weren't the first to encounter cipher use daily; most of whats happened recently is development based on previous achievements by previous generations.
  My father is older then this guy and a very enthusiastic supporter of computer technology as mold breaking.   Attached to the government, he used some of the first end user computers with punch cards and similar level tech and even at that early stage it was game changing.   Its very possible previous generations still have the foresight to understand technology can alter substantially the lay of the land and balance of play.

The big deal now and probably the biggest generational change in my life time will be with the balance of power within Finance.   The current layout also goes back to ww2 and to change that system is going to alter the world, that part could be past the vision of almost anyone.  We are all so used to FIAT being dominant and based around nations not commerce that we cannot imagine anything else, I think thats true for someone who uses BTC every day even.  
   If someone is obsessed with BTC going to zero they are ignoring the elephant in the room which is the collapse from excess debt and instability of possibly several major currencies.   If they can at least contrast technology development with old monetary systems I can believe they are more accurate in their conclusions.
  Ditto when people say BTC is going to be a million per unit now because thats all we will use, thats just ignorance of the whole spectrum of possibilities for trade and monetary proxies society might find useful.

How many old millionaires and billionaires support bitcoin? I've been reading bitcoin-related news channels every day and I don't see many old millionaires and billionaires say that they have invested at least 30% of their fortune in bitcoin, and if there is any old millionaire or billionaire who supports bitcoin, then you will hear that he invested only 1% of his fortune. The reason in my opinion is simple: they have no interest in staying on the computer doing research. because for them too much technology just brings headaches.

Today many children use phones, they want more technology and become lazy, but these kids easily understood bitcoin and would easily pass laws that would benefit bitcoin if they were adults and if they held positions in government, central bank and parliament

And another thing, the number of people who had access to technology 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago and 40 years ago was very small. so many old people don't like technology


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September 08, 2019, 10:11:56 PM
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Well, I totally agree with you, maybe technology is not for everyone, I do not blame it, there are very respected investors such as Warren Buffet, Donald Trump himself, who does not advise operating or investing with Bitcoin

One way or another, these entities do get involved in this space somehow. Warren Buffett is invested in Goldman Sachs through BerkShire Hathaway, and let that financial institution have settled Bitcoin futures contracts for their clients, and they are still looking at launching their a crypto trading desk.

There is a trend amongst these old fashion investors to ignore the underlying asset or technology, but do focus on the ecosystem around it by building businesses generating an income and profit stream. This is their field of interest so it only makes sense for them to keep doing what they have always been doing.

Then people tend to forget that these billionaires have several advisors that may see value in certain technologies. If the risk-reward ratio is favoring a good outcome, even when a billionaire doesn't have much interest in technology, a small allocation is most likely going to happen anyway.
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