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September 01, 2019, 05:48:45 AM
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@OP, as others have mentioned, simply ask that they return the original funds deposited minus the original winnings. Since your winnings were won against TOS (I understand you may not have read them, but at the end of the day, you agree to them on signup), I feel that would be the most fair action to be taken on behalf of the company.

But the final decision is up to them, and then it's your decision on how to proceed from there.

I would also, too, recommend against GP. There's current doubt about him w/ specific cases, and he has yet to provide ANY evidence that he's actually working with a legitimate lawyer. It's most likely just himself, a non-lawyer, sending emails out to casinos.

Please submit this sportsbet scam to Game Protect using Support ticket.

The lawyer cooperating with Game Protect is willing to enforce your money and you have nothing to spend in advance.

Except the 5% "donation" fee, right?

BTW,  If the OP wants to get representation on this matter to help him recoup his funds, I would not recommend that he use game-protect's services. I'm certain he can find much better representation than what game-protect will provide.
Game Protect is worldwide the only entity that successfully enforces Curacao fake license online casino scams, because it requires a lot of information and documents only Game Protect has.

Of course can victims search and engage random lawyers, but in most cases this will not lead to anything!

That's quite a bold statement. You can't possibly be aware of every single crypto-gambling/Curacao related case on the net.

This sportsbook has horrible. I have also very bad experiences with them. Is there a way to claim my money back?
Game Protect enforces claims from bitcasino.io and sportsbet.io

You should really stop talking in third person. You're a 1 man shop mate.

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September 01, 2019, 03:03:25 PM
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Everytime there is money involved especially this huge amounts read the rules first before doing anything 150k USD isnt a joke well you know their rule now and there is nothing you can do more about it but to nicely ask them for their mercy, sorry for your lost.
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Please submit this sportsbet scam to Game Protect using Support ticket.

The lawyer cooperating with Game Protect is willing to enforce your money and you have nothing to spend in advance.

Except the 5% "donation" fee, right?

   Not that I am advocating for game-protect; however, since this case involves a value of more the 5000 euros, the OP would have the no fee, no cure option. However, most attorneys want a 33% fee when they work on a contingency basis. I'm sure game-protect will demand a similar fee, if not higher, if he somehow gets lucky with his supposed inside info to get sportsbet.io to settle.
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There is no way to claim this money back, you can use all the lawyers in the world and best case scenario you will make sportsbet.io eventually give up and give you the money back but without really spending insane amount of money you can't do that, and I mean like way over 150k for that. You have to pressure them into viral negative reviews as well and you have to make everyone go against them in a boycott type of deal. These are all improbable things so at the end of the day you are not gonna get this money back no matter what.

You will however learn to read the rules next time and you will not make these same mistakes like making 3 accounts to go around the rules and using VPN to look like you are from another country and so forth, these rules are there for a reason and sportsbet has every right to keep your money.
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September 02, 2019, 07:01:33 AM
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he just made this one post with no proofs at all and then disappeared , another guy as well in this thread just created account and posted one post about how bad sportsbet is without explaining anything and disappeared

most likely the claims are fake , if I had 150K stuck in a site the least I would do is stay active here to know what I should do

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September 02, 2019, 02:06:14 PM
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Kwamina.bondzie,

Having read your first comment we all could completely understand your frustration so I’ve personally done some digging into your complaint and wanted to clarify a few points.

You created almost 20  accounts which flagged these group of accounts to our security team. Our gaming licenses (both in the UK and Curacao), regulate that we must undertake a “Know Your Customer” process (KYC) which enables us to establish your identity and location (if all 20 accounts were KYCed with different people, then it would prove no links, but that wasn’t the case). Further our KYC process identified you as from the UK and you were deliberating bypassing our UK site (www.sportsbetio.uk), which is licensed by the UKGC. In order to be fair with you on the first breach of our terms and conditions, we sent back the balance of your initial deposit/withdrawals and hence remaining balance in question.

We then proceeded to close all your accounts and communicate to you, that if we detected this action again no deposits or lost funds would be returned and we’d need to report this to the UKGC.

However, a month later more accounts were opened and linked to you. The following KYC request could not be verified (you used fraudulent identity documents) so with the balances at 0, and sticking to our previous communication and will not void those bets and returned deposits.
Quite simply, you can not bypass the UKGC gaming license regulation, make a deposit via a VPN, make a bet and then come crying wolf when the bet loses, especially after we very clearly explained the situation to you and what was allowed and what wasn’t allowed.

To the rest of the forum, who are reading this, the tl;dr is:
  • Player made about 20 linked accounts, which triggered our KYC process
  • He was only able to validate one account, which was from the UK
  • He was deliberately using a VPN to bypass our UK licensed sportsbook
  • We were very clear about this and returned any remaining balances on these account and explicitly advised him what was allowed and what wasn’t
  • Player made new accounts, and used a fake ID to try and trick our security department undertaking KYC
  • Player made deposits and bets - all the bets lost
  • Player now demanding we void all bets and return his deposits
  • We will not be voiding any bets, his lose his bets fair and square. However we will close his accounts and return any available balance on those accounts.


Fun, fast and fair isn’t just a marketing motto for us, we try to be as considerate and understanding as possible, however, which we have very clearly done with the first 20 accounts you have made and used. However, given our clear communication of our expectations, you have directly ignored these and we have to draw a line when people intentionally try to manipulate our service.

The T&Cs are in place to ensure Sportsbet.io is a safe and secure place for all and we follow the regulations set by the different licensing bodies we work with around the world.

Regards,

Steve,
Sportsbet.io

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September 02, 2019, 05:05:34 PM
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Kwamina.bondzie,

Having read your first comment we all could completely understand your frustration so I’ve personally done some digging into your complaint and wanted to clarify a few points.

You created almost 20  accounts which flagged these group of accounts to our security team. Our gaming licenses (both in the UK and Curacao), regulate that we must undertake a “Know Your Customer” process (KYC) which enables us to establish your identity and location (if all 20 accounts were KYCed with different people, then it would prove no links, but that wasn’t the case). Further our KYC process identified you as from the UK and you were deliberating bypassing our UK site (www.sportsbetio.uk), which is licensed by the UKGC. In order to be fair with you on the first breach of our terms and conditions, we sent back the balance of your initial deposit/withdrawals and hence remaining balance in question.

We then proceeded to close all your accounts and communicate to you, that if we detected this action again no deposits or lost funds would be returned and we’d need to report this to the UKGC.

However, a month later more accounts were opened and linked to you. The following KYC request could not be verified (you used fraudulent identity documents) so with the balances at 0, and sticking to our previous communication and will not void those bets and returned deposits.
Quite simply, you can not bypass the UKGC gaming license regulation, make a deposit via a VPN, make a bet and then come crying wolf when the bet loses, especially after we very clearly explained the situation to you and what was allowed and what wasn’t allowed.

To the rest of the forum, who are reading this, the tl;dr is:
  • Player made about 20 linked accounts, which triggered our KYC process
  • He was only able to validate one account, which was from the UK
  • He was deliberately using a VPN to bypass our UK licensed sportsbook
  • We were very clear about this and returned any remaining balances on these account and explicitly advised him what was allowed and what wasn’t
  • Player made new accounts, and used a fake ID to try and trick our security department undertaking KYC
  • Player made deposits and bets - all the bets lost
  • Player now demanding we void all bets and return his deposits
  • We will not be voiding any bets, his lose his bets fair and square. However we will close his accounts and return any available balance on those accounts.


Fun, fast and fair isn’t just a marketing motto for us, we try to be as considerate and understanding as possible, however, which we have very clearly done with the first 20 accounts you have made and used. However, given our clear communication of our expectations, you have directly ignored these and we have to draw a line when people intentionally try to manipulate our service.

The T&Cs are in place to ensure Sportsbet.io is a safe and secure place for all and we follow the regulations set by the different licensing bodies we work with around the world.

Regards,

Steve,
Sportsbet.io

wow! ofcourse he leaves out alot of the information. why expect the book to play fair if you dont obey rules yourself ?

you do stuff like this with so big amount money... just why...  Shocked Huh
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September 02, 2019, 05:40:22 PM
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wow! ofcourse he leaves out alot of the information. why expect the book to play fair if you dont obey rules yourself ?

you do stuff like this with so big amount money... just why...  Shocked Huh

Simple, he thought he could get away with it.
If he won, he keeps the money if they let him withdraw it.
If he looses he comes and complains and he tries to get his money back.

Just another scammer trying to scam.

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September 02, 2019, 06:03:02 PM
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wow! ofcourse he leaves out alot of the information. why expect the book to play fair if you dont obey rules yourself ?

you do stuff like this with so big amount money... just why...  Shocked Huh

Simple, he thought he could get away with it.
If he won, he keeps the money if they let him withdraw it.
If he looses he comes and complains and he tries to get his money back.

Just another scammer trying to scam.

-Dave

indeed but i cant imagine someone being so so greedy having that much money and still trying shady means like this. or maybe he got all that from methods like this only who knows
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September 02, 2019, 08:06:32 PM
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Kwamina.bondzie,

Having read your first comment we all could completely understand your frustration so I’ve personally done some digging into your complaint and wanted to clarify a few points.

You created almost 20  accounts which flagged these group of accounts to our security team. Our gaming licenses (both in the UK and Curacao), regulate that we must undertake a “Know Your Customer” process (KYC) which enables us to establish your identity and location (if all 20 accounts were KYCed with different people, then it would prove no links, but that wasn’t the case). Further our KYC process identified you as from the UK and you were deliberating bypassing our UK site (www.sportsbetio.uk), which is licensed by the UKGC. In order to be fair with you on the first breach of our terms and conditions, we sent back the balance of your initial deposit/withdrawals and hence remaining balance in question.

We then proceeded to close all your accounts and communicate to you, that if we detected this action again no deposits or lost funds would be returned and we’d need to report this to the UKGC.

However, a month later more accounts were opened and linked to you. The following KYC request could not be verified (you used fraudulent identity documents) so with the balances at 0, and sticking to our previous communication and will not void those bets and returned deposits.
Quite simply, you can not bypass the UKGC gaming license regulation, make a deposit via a VPN, make a bet and then come crying wolf when the bet loses, especially after we very clearly explained the situation to you and what was allowed and what wasn’t allowed.

To the rest of the forum, who are reading this, the tl;dr is:
  • Player made about 20 linked accounts, which triggered our KYC process
  • He was only able to validate one account, which was from the UK
  • He was deliberately using a VPN to bypass our UK licensed sportsbook
  • We were very clear about this and returned any remaining balances on these account and explicitly advised him what was allowed and what wasn’t
  • Player made new accounts, and used a fake ID to try and trick our security department undertaking KYC
  • Player made deposits and bets - all the bets lost
  • Player now demanding we void all bets and return his deposits
  • We will not be voiding any bets, his lose his bets fair and square. However we will close his accounts and return any available balance on those accounts.


Fun, fast and fair isn’t just a marketing motto for us, we try to be as considerate and understanding as possible, however, which we have very clearly done with the first 20 accounts you have made and used. However, given our clear communication of our expectations, you have directly ignored these and we have to draw a line when people intentionally try to manipulate our service.

The T&Cs are in place to ensure Sportsbet.io is a safe and secure place for all and we follow the regulations set by the different licensing bodies we work with around the world.

Regards,

Steve,
Sportsbet.io

This seems like an absolutely more than fair response, especially considering the OP made the bets at a loss/was trying to get loss back.

Over and done w/.

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September 03, 2019, 12:06:35 AM
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Kwamina.bondzie,

Having read your first comment we all could completely understand your frustration so I’ve personally done some digging into your complaint and wanted to clarify a few points.

You created almost 20  accounts which flagged these group of accounts to our security team. Our gaming licenses (both in the UK and Curacao), regulate that we must undertake a “Know Your Customer” process (KYC) which enables us to establish your identity and location (if all 20 accounts were KYCed with different people, then it would prove no links, but that wasn’t the case). Further our KYC process identified you as from the UK and you were deliberating bypassing our UK site (www.sportsbetio.uk), which is licensed by the UKGC. In order to be fair with you on the first breach of our terms and conditions, we sent back the balance of your initial deposit/withdrawals and hence remaining balance in question.

We then proceeded to close all your accounts and communicate to you, that if we detected this action again no deposits or lost funds would be returned and we’d need to report this to the UKGC.

However, a month later more accounts were opened and linked to you. The following KYC request could not be verified (you used fraudulent identity documents) so with the balances at 0, and sticking to our previous communication and will not void those bets and returned deposits.
Quite simply, you can not bypass the UKGC gaming license regulation, make a deposit via a VPN, make a bet and then come crying wolf when the bet loses, especially after we very clearly explained the situation to you and what was allowed and what wasn’t allowed.

To the rest of the forum, who are reading this, the tl;dr is:
  • Player made about 20 linked accounts, which triggered our KYC process
  • He was only able to validate one account, which was from the UK
  • He was deliberately using a VPN to bypass our UK licensed sportsbook
  • We were very clear about this and returned any remaining balances on these account and explicitly advised him what was allowed and what wasn’t
  • Player made new accounts, and used a fake ID to try and trick our security department undertaking KYC
  • Player made deposits and bets - all the bets lost
  • Player now demanding we void all bets and return his deposits
  • We will not be voiding any bets, his lose his bets fair and square. However we will close his accounts and return any available balance on those accounts.


Fun, fast and fair isn’t just a marketing motto for us, we try to be as considerate and understanding as possible, however, which we have very clearly done with the first 20 accounts you have made and used. However, given our clear communication of our expectations, you have directly ignored these and we have to draw a line when people intentionally try to manipulate our service.

The T&Cs are in place to ensure Sportsbet.io is a safe and secure place for all and we follow the regulations set by the different licensing bodies we work with around the world.

Regards,

Steve,
Sportsbet.io

This seems like an absolutely more than fair response, especially considering the OP made the bets at a loss/was trying to get loss back.

Over and done w/.




This is completely wrong a lie. When have I ever submitted fake documents. I have never ever made more than 20 accounts. I only made 3 accounts and I have not had an issue with sportsbet.io in the past, as this is my first experience with them. How can you claim that my ID is fake. You never said this in any email. I completed all the security stages that were asked of me. This is absolutely ridiculous
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Although the OP was clearly breaking the rules by opening multiple accounts and is a citizen of the UK, I strongly believe that sportsbet.io should return the deposits as an act of goodwill. 12+ BTC is a lot of money. I think it is a bit heavy handed for the infractions committed by the OP. I especially hold this view since it appears that the OP provided his real documents to demonstrate that he was a UK citizen. This indicates to me a careless ignorance of the rule against a UK citizen playing on their site, rather than deliberate fraud. Unfortunately, the creation of multiple accounts to override a betting cap was definitely not on the up and up on the OPs part.  Also, I agree that the OP should move this to scam accusations.
BTW,  If the OP wants to get representation on this matter to help him recoup his funds, I would not recommend that he use game-protect's services. I'm certain he can find much better representation than what game-protect will provide.

Thank you for your advice. At present, I am still trying to resolve this amicably with sportsbet.io but what representation would you represent
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September 03, 2019, 12:27:57 AM
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So sportsbet.io as above have confirmed that they will be holding my funds because I allegedly made “20 accounts” a month before. This is my first time ever using sportsbet.io and I only made 3 accounts as stated in my first comment. If they have warned me about this before why on earth would I gamble 150,000 usd on their website!!!

Furthermore, they are know claiming my ID is fake? How can my ID be fake if I submitted it through your secure link which requires a selfie of me and you never mentioned anything about a fake ID in your first email that you sent to me.

Yes I accept I broke your rules in regards to multiple accounts (3 accounts) which I hold my hands up to and openly admit ... and yes I am from the UK abetting ( which I didn’t know was not permitted at the time).... but for the type of money that I have been betting to hold all my funds is completely unjust and not fair.

As stated above by another user, all I am requesting is my deposits - withdrawals which equates to around 150,000usd. Steve from sports bet.io would be able to state  the exact figure
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@ kwamina.bondzie

Game Protect is the only entity who has sufficient info and documents about the bitcasino.io, sportsbet.io and vegascasino.io scam group to potentially successfully enforce your BTC.

You can select the 65:35 no cure no pay enforcement proceeding and do not have to pay anything in advance and there are also other options available.

Listen to low level signature spammers likely will not help you to get your USD 150,000!
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September 03, 2019, 01:44:25 AM
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@ kwamina.bondzie

Game Protect is the only entity who has sufficient info and documents about the bitcasino.io, sportsbet.io and vegascasino.io scam group to potentially successfully enforce your BTC.

You can select the 65:35 no cure no pay enforcement proceeding and do not have to pay anything in advance and there are also other options available.

Listen to low level signature spammers likely will not help you to get your USD 150,000!

Any particular reason why this guy is offered 65:35 when you indicated today in your thread that the no cure no pay basis is 70:30?

@ extremely mentally ill and or brain dead

The bitcasino.io, sportsbet.io and vegascasino.io enforcement of illegally and in breach of applicable AML and KYC laws taken and laundered Bitcoins runs on a 70:30 no cure no pay basis. Smiley
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September 03, 2019, 02:58:11 AM
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Any particular reason why this guy is offered 65:35 when you indicated today in your thread that the no cure no pay basis is 70:30?
1) As stated on the Game Protect website, the enforcement options for account balances or money lost after self-exclusion ignorance are:

- Collection proceeding on a 65:35 no cure no pay basis, if the claim is at least around 5,000 Euro or
  
- Donate 5% of your claim (minimum 100 Euro) in advance or
    
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2) The enforcement of illegally and in breach of applicable AML and KYC laws taken and laundered Bitcoins runs on a 70:30 no cure no pay basis.
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September 03, 2019, 07:21:26 AM
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So sportsbet.io as above have confirmed that they will be holding my funds because I allegedly made “20 accounts” a month before. This is my first time ever using sportsbet.io and I only made 3 accounts as stated in my first comment. If they have warned me about this before why on earth would I gamble 150,000 usd on their website!!!

Furthermore, they are know claiming my ID is fake? How can my ID be fake if I submitted it through your secure link which requires a selfie of me and you never mentioned anything about a fake ID in your first email that you sent to me.

Yes I accept I broke your rules in regards to multiple accounts (3 accounts) which I hold my hands up to and openly admit ... and yes I am from the UK abetting ( which I didn’t know was not permitted at the time).... but for the type of money that I have been betting to hold all my funds is completely unjust and not fair.

As stated above by another user, all I am requesting is my deposits - withdrawals which equates to around 150,000usd. Steve from sports bet.io would be able to state  the exact figure

not sure if I understood correctly but sportsbet in their statement said that you made bets and these bets lost , and they also clearly stating that they will return any left money
so are you really demanding them to void your losing bets and send you your original deposit ?

if that's really what you are demanding for then this is ridiculous ?
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September 03, 2019, 07:37:15 AM
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Sometimes the amount of greediness humans exhibit, are just too stupid. How on earth will someone not trying to cheat a system operate 3 different accounts while doing so from a restricted country. The whole thing sounds stupid and funny. I would back what ever decision sportsbet takes as they have all the right since they have already stated clearly in their ToS that, multiple accounts aren't allowed. The funny thing here is, if this user gets away with this stunt then others might think they can get away with the same or similar stunts although forgive.

Professionally, I would had use this user as a scapegoat to show zero tolerance for any attempt to cheat the system but the human in me and considering the amount at stake, plead with sportsbet to temper justice with mercy as it'll also help in strengthening your reputation. Try to work with the user and return just deposit funded. Out of our greediness, we all make mistakes.

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September 04, 2019, 12:13:23 AM
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So sportsbet.io as above have confirmed that they will be holding my funds because I allegedly made “20 accounts” a month before. This is my first time ever using sportsbet.io and I only made 3 accounts as stated in my first comment. If they have warned me about this before why on earth would I gamble 150,000 usd on their website!!!

Furthermore, they are know claiming my ID is fake? How can my ID be fake if I submitted it through your secure link which requires a selfie of me and you never mentioned anything about a fake ID in your first email that you sent to me.

Yes I accept I broke your rules in regards to multiple accounts (3 accounts) which I hold my hands up to and openly admit ... and yes I am from the UK abetting ( which I didn’t know was not permitted at the time).... but for the type of money that I have been betting to hold all my funds is completely unjust and not fair.

As stated above by another user, all I am requesting is my deposits - withdrawals which equates to around 150,000usd. Steve from sports bet.io would be able to state  the exact figure

not sure if I understood correctly but sportsbet in their statement said that you made bets and these bets lost , and they also clearly stating that they will return any left money
so are you really demanding them to void your losing bets and send you your original deposit ?

if that's really what you are demanding for then this is ridiculous ?

Correct, some of my bets did lose but the large bet of 12 BTC (4 BTC across 3 accounts), as soon as I placed the bet my accounts were disable so I had no opportunity to monitor the bet, or exercise the early cash out they were offering etc.

I am still awaiting An email from them in regards to their response that I have publically made but I am yet to receive a reply and it has been 3 days. They claim that I have made over 20 accounts a month ago but this is my first time ever using their platform
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September 04, 2019, 01:46:36 PM
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Correct, some of my bets did lose but the large bet of 12 BTC (4 BTC across 3 accounts), as soon as I placed the bet my accounts were disable so I had no opportunity to monitor the bet, or exercise the early cash out they were offering etc.

I am still awaiting An email from them in regards to their response that I have publically made but I am yet to receive a reply and it has been 3 days. They claim that I have made over 20 accounts a month ago but this is my first time ever using their platform

I'm sorry but you have no right to demand for that , you were cheating the system and you already made bets
if they can tolerate that it means every single player who use the site illegally will be freerolling the site and making bets , if he get caught or lost the bets he will simply ask the site for refund and if the bets won while sportsbet didn't notice that he will get away with the money

if you had the money pending and stuck in your account I guess everyone here will ask sportsbet to refund you the money , but you lost your bets

cashout isn't something standard , actually a lot of the time even if you have access to the site you won't be able to make the cashout
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