ToS, do you read it before using new platforms?

[UserU]

I'd be damned if there are people that really read the whole thing.

[coupable]

I'd be damned if there are people that really read the whole thing.

If a site is well known and has a growth popularity, i can guess that people will follow the foule and ignore the TOS.
However, when it's about money, yes people [should] read the whole TOS or maybe the interested parts. I wasn't active in gambling sites, so i am surprised to see some hidden restrictions revealed in this thread. I think this thread and other sites offering similar notes about the important details in most used sites, would be a great help for all of us.

[Taskford]

I'd be damned if there are people that really read the whole thing.

If a site is well known and has a growth popularity, i can guess that people will follow the foule and ignore the TOS.
However, when it's about money, yes people [should] read the whole TOS or maybe the interested parts. I wasn't active in gambling sites, so i am surprised to see some hidden restrictions revealed in this thread. I think this thread and other sites offering similar notes about the important details in most used sites, would be a great help for all of us.

Ignoring the tos is really a bad decision to be made by people since they might do something unwanted things that abide on their TOS and might they will lost their money and account for that matters.

Users should read to know what is illegal and what is good to do since information is written to avoid any compromising things to users account.

Although its surprising but those things are created for something legalization of all things in the site.

[UserU]

If a site is well known and has a growth popularity, i can guess that people will follow the foule and ignore the TOS.
However, when it's about money, yes people [should] read the whole TOS or maybe the interested parts. I wasn't active in gambling sites, so i am surprised to see some hidden restrictions revealed in this thread. I think this thread and other sites offering similar notes about the important details in most used sites, would be a great help for all of us.

Well, as long as you play fair, there's nothing to worry about.

But if you noticed, many if not all have this always tucked in some corner.

We reserve the rights to amend the TOS without further notice

When it comes to issues or some gray area (e.g. commissions), that's when things can get messy.

For instance you are a member of casino XYZ, so perhaps you might have read that, "Referrer earns 30% commission from every new referral that bets" but after a while, you noticed the commission has decreased. You communicate with the Support team and they iterate that it's always been at 10%.

You clearly remembered that it was stated 30%, but how are you going to prove it unless you take a snapshot of every page, which I reckon 99.9% including myself won't do. That's how the above could actually screw with us unless they communicate whenever there's a change/ amendment in the policy.

[hd49728]

I'd be damned if there are people that really read the whole thing.

I don't said everyone to read whole ToS of anysite.

Ignoring the tos is really a bad decision to be made by people since they might do something unwanted things that abide on their TOS and might they will lost their money and account for that matters.

Users should read to know what is illegal and what is good to do since information is written to avoid any compromising things to users account.

Although its surprising but those things are created for something legalization of all things in the site.

Big or small, old or new sites, reading ToS and FAQ are most important things to do. I am sure no one read all ToS but any browser gives you the Ctrl+F to do quick search: restricted areas, IP address, VPN, Tor network, frozen inactive account and funds, deposit, withdrawal, something like that.

Personally, I always do quick search with some keywords when I visit ToS and FAQ.

[UserU]

I don't said everyone to read whole ToS of anysite.

I know. What I meant was that it would be surprising if there are people (lawyers, maybe) that actually go through the whole thing.

[Bekuciwu9]

To be honest, i dont, and i think that huge majority of people dont bother to read them.When you think about it, it even looks like they are made with the purpose not to be read by the people.

[hd49728]

To be honest, i dont, and i think that huge majority of people dont bother to read them.When you think about it, it even looks like they are made with the purpose not to be read by the people.

It is the cause why people go into panic when their accounts got troubles because of things are related to ToS. Read or search with basic keywords first to make sure that your account won't be trapped by basic rules in ToS. I can understand sometimes it is difficult to understand what is written in ToS if you are reading it the first time but the more time you read, ther higher chance you will catch its idea and rule representation.

If you consider ToS as unofficial trap you will change your mind.

[-CryptoViking-]

It is the cause why people go into panic when their accounts got troubles because of things are related to ToS. Read or search with basic keywords first to make sure that your account won't be trapped by basic rules in ToS. I can understand sometimes it is difficult to understand what is written in ToS if you are reading it the first time but the more time you read, ther higher chance you will catch its idea and rule representation.

If you consider ToS as unofficial trap you will change your mind.

Exactly, you get wiser with experience. I do read TOS for casinos as i had my lessons before and I take the time to read TOS for certain services or apps which I'm using for the first time. For example WhatsApp is terrible to use as you basicaly sign off your entire life to Facebook by agreeing to TOS and using it, but people don't read TOS and that is how those apps get popular.

Even when you spread the info how harmful and bad it is, people just keep using it as they either don't care, they have all their friends on it or are too lazy to find an alternative. People are lazy and that is being cleverly exploited.

That is the bottom line.

[Coyster]

To be honest, i dont, and i think that huge majority of people dont bother to read them.When you think about it, it even looks like they are made with the purpose not to be read by the people.

That is not true. If the websites or applications do not want you to read it, then I think they'll prolly not make any Tos, or it'll be somewhat hidden, but in most sites, their Tos are always open and available for their users to read, if you don't read it, it's cause you don't want to read it or you find it difficult to do, or you don't just see the need. Whenever you go contrary to their rules in the Tos, they redirect you to it, doesn't that mean they initially expected you to have read it?

Even when you spread the info how harmful and bad it is, people just keep using it as they either don't care, they have all their friends on it or are too lazy to find an alternative.

There are some apps that most people cannot do without/find an alternative to, due to it's ease to connect them with their friends and families, but I think they can reduce the amount of information the site can access of them and their private life, but to totally discard it will be almost impossible to do.

[hd49728]

That is not true. If the websites or applications do not want you to read it, then I think they'll prolly not make any Tos, or it'll be somewhat hidden, but in most sites, their Tos are always open and available for their users to read, if you don't read it, it's cause you don't want to read it or you find it difficult to do, or you don't just see the need. Whenever you go contrary to their rules in the Tos, they redirect you to it, doesn't that mean they initially expected you to have read it?

ToS is the page that all companies will direct their customers to when something happen with account (deposits, withdrawals, trades, account restrictions, and more). No one can determinantly say that they will never get troubles with their accounts and related things.

Exactly, you get wiser with experience. I do read TOS for casinos as i had my lessons before and I take the time to read TOS for certain services or apps which I'm using for the first time. For example WhatsApp is terrible to use as you basicaly sign off your entire life to Facebook by agreeing to TOS and using it, but people don't read TOS and that is how those apps get popular.

Because you are mentioning about applications, let me expand your discussion further. When you install any application, there is always a pop-up windows to ask your confirm terms of conditions. It plays almost similar role of ToS on webistes and online services.

It is a waste of time to read all things in Terms of conditions/ agreements but search very important words to find vital points in their ToS.

If you look back to consider how you easily accepted rules when you joined Facebook or Twitter, you will know how you put your personal data at risks (but unfortunately, you signed your agreements with Facebook and Twitter when create your accounts).

[Latviand]

Usually I tried to read terms of service when I use any website especially if its related with money. Sometimes I read before registration and sometimes read after registration but obviously before send any funds to them. But I believe most of people's doesn't bother to read terms of service and eventually they fall in problem and make scam accusations if he/she is forum user.

So everyone should read terms of service or terms of conditions before or after registration, but before use them.

Reading terms of service on a site is a must especially if there is money related in the site so in the future you'll know what to do and you can avoid not getting your money from the site which happens to some people especially from a gambling site that a gambler played.

Many people are skipping that and just check if they agree without even understanding the terms of conditions.

We need to accept the fact that a lot of people are doing that due to their laziness and excitement towards registration.

In some registration, I also doing this, I don't read the terms of condition and privacy policy, but that's not related in investments and important platforms. When I'm accessing new platforms, I spend my time reading those because that's for my own safety and awareness.

[Mauser]

Many people are skipping that and just check if they agree without even understanding the terms of conditions.

We need to accept the fact that a lot of people are doing that due to their laziness and excitement towards registration.

In some registration, I also doing this, I don't read the terms of condition and privacy policy, but that's not related in investments and important platforms. When I'm accessing new platforms, I spend my time reading those because that's for my own safety and awareness.

Same for me, I usually just skip the TOS which is a bad thing I know. But it's too long to read it all and there are too many different websites with different TOS. One thing I always check of a new website/campaign is where it's based and how long the TOS is. I tend to rely on checking on other website for reviews. This forum is usually a good indication if there are scam accusations or other wrong doings in the past.

[libert19]

I like websites when they give concise tnc, but unfortunately most don't and it's god tiresome to read every single detail, no wonder most Internet users skip it.

[robelneo]

Unfortunately, smaller rules may cost you a lot. For example, the company reserves the right to add any new rule without alerting users.

This is risky and very dangerous for users, I usually received a notification from sites where I have an account about changes in their TOS and every sites should do this for transparency and trust, you cannot trust a site that has a hidden agenda to the point that they can and will legally scam you, so far ai

[-CryptoViking-]

This is risky and very dangerous for users, I usually received a notification from sites where I have an account about changes in their TOS and every sites should do this for transparency and trust, you cannot trust a site that has a hidden agenda to the point that they can and will legally scam you, so far ai

Well just receiving an email or notification about change of ToS is not enough.The thing is a person needs to open it and then take time to read through it and inform themselves.This part is what gets people, people are lazy and just click I agree.Then later there are problems.

[btc78]

Of course i am because this is the most important thing in each platform though i am not doing it anymore in gambling sites because they all almost
 have the same TOS so nothing to worry about,But in other site except Gambling is i require myself checking and reading
thoroughly with understanding the TOS for my own safeties .

This is risky and very dangerous for users, I usually received a notification from sites where I have an account about changes in their TOS and every sites should do this for transparency and trust, you cannot trust a site that has a hidden agenda to the point that they can and will legally scam you, so far ai

Well just receiving an email or notification about change of ToS is not enough.The thing is a person needs to open it and then take time to read through it and inform themselves.This part is what gets people, people are lazy and just click I agree.Then later there are problems.

It is best that even they send an email we will still double check the site about the new written TOS so we are sure if the site is
still cool for us or we need to move forward to another.

[Mandarava]

I think that the bulk of ordinary users simply do not read the terms of the user agreement, as a rule, people tend to trust the platform, provided that someone from their relatives or friends also uses this platform. The user agreement is read by 5-10 percent of users. These are the statistics.