Minter - just a normal Shitcoin or a Scamcoin?

[1miau]

- Investors are not investors, but buyers of a non-working product.

I can send you 100 BIP for testing this "a non-working product".
You can sell it (for example here https://minter.1001btc.com/en/) or delegate in some validator (choose it here https://minter.stakeholder.space/validator/overview/) and get about 0.5% a day (it is decreasing)

The fact a coin is traded somewhere doesn't prove if it's a legit coin. Bitconnect was also traded on many exchanges and was a scam coin. I don't compare Bitconnect with Minter but a coin listed on exchanges doesn't prove anything.
In addition, most PoS coins with high returns are often ending up as dumped shitcoins because all the stakers are trying to sell them but there are no buyers...

[Beoga]

The fact a coin is traded somewhere doesn't prove if it's a legit coin. Bitconnect was also traded on many exchanges and was a scam coin. I don't compare Bitconnect with Minter but a coin listed on exchanges doesn't prove anything.
In addition, most PoS coins with high returns are often ending up as dumped shitcoins because all the stakers are trying to sell them but there are no buyers...

I agree with your remarks. But it is important how many real services will be launched on the platform. Services that can be used offline. In Minter already has the service allows to buy products without changing the BIP on Fiat currency. There is a service that allows you to buy food in McDonald's for BIP tokens (only in Russia yet). And a lot another services that help users like exchanges, telegram bots and so on.

[kuznyaorg]

- Investors are not investors, but buyers of a non-working product.

I can send you 100 BIP for testing this "a non-working product".
You can sell it (for example here https://minter.1001btc.com/en/) or delegate in some validator (choose it here https://minter.stakeholder.space/validator/overview/) and get about 0.5% a day (it is decreasing)

The fact a coin is traded somewhere doesn't prove if it's a legit coin. Bitconnect was also traded on many exchanges and was a scam coin. I don't compare Bitconnect with Minter but a coin listed on exchanges doesn't prove anything.
In addition, most PoS coins with high returns are often ending up as dumped shitcoins because all the stakers are trying to sell them but there are no buyers...

That is true, I see most of the users prefer stake and sell and price eventually goes down. The dev team bets on projects, that are based on minter custom coins that will boost the economy. I saw a few games that use custom coins for internal bonus programs - great use case, I think! but adoption will not go fast. Also team is building an exchange where project owners may sell bip with priority. Doubt that this will work, but who knows, I really want to see this in action. The network still in it's early stages and all good new projects are very welcome by community. Also low prices is good for new projects that wants to enter, hope there will be more of them in the near future.

[1miau]

Sounds reasonable. I hope they won't let you down when their project will face difficulties (most projects will get them and then, an experienced and honest team is essential to make the right decisions). If their service can be used to buy food in McDonalds in Russia that's already a good achievement.

[Harold Finch]

Sounds reasonable. I hope they won't let you down when their project will face difficulties (most projects will get them and then, an experienced and honest team is essential to make the right decisions). If their service can be used to buy food in McDonalds in Russia that's already a good achievement.

As I wrote earlier, the manager who leads this company cheats.

Aпдeйт: 
Итaк cмoтpим зa иx вeткoй пepвaя cтpaницa peгиcтpaции c paзницeй нecкoлькo минyт - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5180961
И cмoтpим зa pyкaми o чeм paнee yвaжaeмый мнoю MaoChao пиcaл вмecтe c KTC.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158721

Итoгo- BOMG aвтop тoпикa, First1by tommyj1, Doging, xaker74, udivkx и мнoгиe дpyгиe этo oднo и тoжe лицo a тoчнee aльтфepмa.
Кoгдa иx вcex нopмaльнo тaк пoкpacят?

I translate into English, BOMG creator of minter topic , First1by, tommyj1, Doging, xaker74, udivkx and more. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158721
This is one and the same person.
This farm was previously seen in the wrapping and painted.
The registration goes one after another, and there was also a transfer of merites.
Now they clog the forum with meaningless messages.

[1miau]

Sounds reasonable. I hope they won't let you down when their project will face difficulties (most projects will get them and then, an experienced and honest team is essential to make the right decisions). If their service can be used to buy food in McDonalds in Russia that's already a good achievement.

As I wrote earlier, the manager who leads this company cheats.

Ok, maybe you can ask a professional scam detector to do an investigation. Unfortunately, ICO Ethics doesn't seem to be active anymore but lovesmayfamilis or witcher_sense are also doing a great job and as far as I know both of them are speaking russian. Or you can open a new thread yourself and present the evidence easy to understand for non-russian speakers. But I think, since it's a russian project, most relevant sources are in russian and very lengthy to read and complicated to explain this looks like it's better to make a scam accusation in your russian local board. You have a few very good DT Members in your local board and if they can confirm your proof, they'll take action if needed.

The problem is that they don't have a real account. All ANNs / Bounty topics are posted by different accounts, I don't know which one is handled by them (or maybe all accounts  ):

Bounty Russian by BOMG: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5180961.0
Minter ANN Russian by BOMG: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5164880.0
ANN 10/2018 by Jungarin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5052767.0
ANN 07/2019 by bitjudge: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166420.0
Bounty international by doreraj: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5181035.0
ANN 06/2019 by doreraj: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159394.0

[EvRo74]

Minter Roadmap USA

Minter's team shared plans for development in the United States. The most important things to know:

▪ Minter Development Foundation (hereinafter - MDF) will be responsible for the promotion of Minter-based projects in the USA
▪ The best projects will be offered agreements with MDF with the support of lawyers + marketing support for large amounts in US dollars
▪ Development and support of the blockchain core will be carried out by the American company Grom, headed by Daniil Lashin
▪ The team makes great efforts to comply with all SEC rules
▪ MDF is working to list BIPs on exchanges. There will be no manipulations with the course / trading volume from the team
▪ Evgeny Gordeev will continue his work on the concept of the Internet of money

[CoinBC]

Shitcoin or scam?
Change that title, it's so easy this days to defame coins and business using this scam report section.
I participated on their airdrop too and everything went allright.
Then a retard kid like you decide to defame all over the place because Dota2 is updating and he got some time to spend online.
How about you get a girl friend?

[1miau]

Shitcoin or scam?
Change that title, ....

Nope.
I don't see any reason to change the title. "Shitcoin or Scamcoin" fits perfectly because it's either one of both. If it's "Scamcoin" I'm sorry for the investors but that's up to everyone when someone is investing in risky projects to make big money and I hope the Scamcoin devs will get caught and a fair punishment. If it's "Shitcoin" => same applies like for "Scamcoin" but the devs have still some benefit of doubt. I understand that Shitcoin business isn't easy to manage and I'm open to call any "Scamcoins" only "Shitcoins" if there's a random reason that it might be not a Scam.

But almost 95% of all coins are Shitcoins and they will die somewhere in the future. That's why new content in "Scam Accusation" is posted very frequently. 

And "Shitcoin" is not a defamation. It's an official term to describe a coin without (most of the) features a good cryptocurrency (like Bitcoin) is famous for. You should try to evaluate if a Coin is a Shitcoin or a Coin like - wait - a congressman.

Meanwhile, I'm going for Bitcoin and let's see which coin will have made a better return in 2 / 3 / 4 years. I guess your Shitcoin will have almost no value by then anymore compared to Bitcoin. 

[aioc]

Shitcoin or scam?
Change that title, ....

Nope.
I don't see any reason to change the title. "Shitcoin or Scamcoin" fits perfectly because it's either one of both. If it's "Scamcoin" I'm sorry for the investors but that's up to everyone when someone is investing in risky projects to make big money and I hope the Scamcoin devs will get caught and a fair punishment. If it's "Shitcoin" => same applies like for "Scamcoin" but the devs have still some benefit of doubt. I understand that Shitcoin business isn't easy to manage and I'm open to call any "Scamcoins" only "Shitcoins" if there's a random reason that it might be not a Scam.

But almost 95% of all coins are Shitcoins and they will die somewhere in the future. That's why new content in "Scam Accusation" is posted very frequently. 

And "Shitcoin" is not a defamation. It's an official term to describe a coin without (most of the) features a good cryptocurrency (like Bitcoin) is famous for. You should try to evaluate if a Coin is a Shitcoin or a Coin like - wait - a congressman.

Meanwhile, I'm going for Bitcoin and let's see which coin will have made a better return in 2 / 3 / 4 years. I guess your Shitcoin will have almost no value by then anymore compared to Bitcoin. 

I've seen many bounty hunters promoting this coin and I'm a member of their telegram channel as well, I don't see anything wrong changing the title, actually, this is a challenge for the team, because the majority of coins right now, new and old are tagged as shitcoins, it's a challenge for them to prove otherwise.

[rhomelmabini]

Shitcoin or scam?
Change that title

It is still a question so you don't have to worry about it but the riskiness and doubt is still in there within this project so better not change at all the title. Defending it because you've been part of their airdrop? Don't worry if they'll distribute it to participants it will be half on the expected value of the coin, that's I am guessing.

So what title fits perfectly on their project?

[Harold Finch]

Shitcoin from DeCenter scummers!
Proof - https://t.me/DeCenter/4887
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1763574.0

[EvRo74]

Shitcoin from DeCenter scummers!
Proof - https://t.me/DeCenter/4887
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1763574.0

This site decentr.me is not valid. The correct site is called decentr.org.
Be careful in your investigations.

[Harold Finch]

Shitcoin from DeCenter scummers!
Proof - https://t.me/DeCenter/4887
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1763574.0

This site decentr.me is not valid. The correct site is called decentr.org.
Be careful in your investigations.

Stop threatening users with the signature of a project that is made like many pyramids from russia like a deeponion. The links are all correct and prove that this project was created by developers who were previously seen in the scam.