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September 03, 2019, 04:32:01 AM
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What does a forum mean?
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a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.

Therefore, in case of bitcointalk forum, the particular primary issue must be "bitcoin" and secondary issue can be cryptocurrency and other stuffs.


This is what I found, would appreciate an updated data.

RankFull N    Act.last m. N       %    Act.this year N     %
Full M. 18170        8959             49.31     12704         69.92
Sr.M. 8999          4441             49.35     6384          70.94
Hero 4140          2252             54.40     3139          75.82
Legendary 2144          1519             70.85     1892          88.25


So, what's this rank refers according to the criteria of a forum?

Full Member-
I have joined the forum ~3.5 months ago and have gained certained knowledge on bitcoin and related stuffs.

Sr Member-
I have joined the forum ~8.5 months ago and have gained average level knowledge on bitcoin and related stuffs.

Hero Member-
I have joined the forum ~15.5 months ago and I have decent knowledge on bitcoin and its related stuffs.

Legendary-
I have joined the forum at least ~2 years ago and I have pro level knowledge on bitcoin and its related stuff.

In addition, all the members must have knowledge on forum.

How much full, sr, hero and Legendary members are there now?
A lot of recent as well as previous ranked member has zero knowledge on bitcoin. It's annoying to see people with zero knowledge on bitcoin is also growing up to the next rank, even with the new rank system "merit". What will be your answer if someone newbie ask you for technical support but you can't assist him because you don't know even though you are a Hero/ Legendary member?
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September 03, 2019, 04:42:17 AM
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This is a forum made for crypto fans especially for those who are interested with bitcoins. This wasn't made solely for blockchain and bitcoin experts. And also, we have some various sections to discuss such technicalities regarding bitcoins and other stuffs. So there's no need to take a serious grudge on users that's already on the highest ranking of the system. Not all of us are open to know how this works, each and everyone of us has different passions and careers, so don't expect anyone can answer a newbie question everytime. Just a basic knowledge will be sufficient.

For example, I'm a Hero now, but still I lack on knowledge on how these are being made and works via program/syntax. But I'm still studying. It depends on the users whether they want to achieve that knowledge or not, you can't enforce them to have that just because they're Legendaries.


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As for the ranks, Crypto Experts and other users with an advance knowledge on this doesn't have any problem with the current ranking, nor they care about it.
mikeywith a user that is very fond of mining (AFAIK) I can say he never cares about the ranks but just look where he is now. In just a short time he managed to get to the higher rank.

So even if there are users with 0 knowledge on crypto, don't get annoyed. Besides some of them are just bought accounts.

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Everyone has an option here if they don't want what currently happening in the forum.
1. Just do your thing and stay
2. Help the forum to be cleaned.
3. Leave.
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September 03, 2019, 04:42:51 AM
Last edit: September 03, 2019, 04:57:31 AM by hd49728
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You can read them:
Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?)
Newbies - Read before posting
History of bitcointalk.org's rank system
Admin does not want to allocate proportional merits per activity.
I agree with this approach. I considered giving merit proportional to activity, but I decided not to because doing so would probably give far more undeserved merit than deserved merit in total. But undoubtedly some people got screwed by this, and if they have decent posts, by all means, give them the 250 or 500 merit that they need to rank-up.
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A lot of recent as well as previous ranked member has zero knowledge on bitcoin. It's annoying to see people with zero knowledge on bitcoin is also growing up to the next rank, even with the new rank system "merit". What will be your answer if someone newbie ask you for technical support but you can't assist him because you don't know even though you are a Hero/ Legendary member?
They ranked up because they are good users, not because they are good bitcoin experts.
So, if you don't like it, why did not make a proposal to lock all boards/ child boards that do not relate to bitcoin?
Forum created initially as a forum for bitcoin, but over years it has expanded to altcoins, and become a biggest forum in crypto currencies, not only bitcoin.

People are all welcome here if they are good users, so they must not be decent bitcoin expert or have decent knowledge on bitcoin to be here, as good members.
As a member of the forum, you are surrounded by legends; phenomenal successes and catastrophic failures.

This forum exists to provide a platform for the free (but ordered) exchange of ideas. If you have an idea to express, then it is probably possible to do it here as long as you follow the rules.

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September 03, 2019, 04:50:38 AM
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For example, I'm a Hero now, but still I lack on knowledge on how these are being made and works via program/syntax. But I'm still studying. It depends on the users whether they want to achieve that knowledge or not, you can't enforce them to have that just because they're Legendaries.
No need to know program. If you don't have interest on learning this bitcoin stuffs, I doubt you would not be here now.
But since you don't know much, I bet you don't have interest on bitcoin stuff rather on other things going around. Your rank proves that, you are hero member but you don't have decent knowledge on bitcoin.

You can read them:
This has nothing to do with my thread, sir.

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They ranked up because they are good users, not because they are good bitcoin experts.
So, if you don't like it, why did not make a proposal to lock all boards/ child boards that do not relate to bitcoin?
Forum created initially as a forum for bitcoin, but over years it has expanded to altcoins, and become a biggest forum in crypto currencies, not only bitcoin.
Bitcoin experts have a symbol in this forum, expert and pro level bitcoin user are different.
May be I have used a little wrong words in my original thread.
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September 03, 2019, 04:59:34 AM
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No need to know program. If you don't have interest on learning this bitcoin stuffs, I doubt you would not be here now.
But since you don't know much, I bet you don't have interest on bitcoin stuff rather on other things going around. Your rank proves that, you are hero member but you don't have decent knowledge on bitcoin.
Guess what, I'm just a mere student. So if a 10 year old boy has an account here that is already Legendary, you expect him to have a decent knowledge about bitcoin?
Mate, just consider that we're not all equal here, besides the Ranking System wasn't made because of that. It's just something like an entertainment for us, it just increases our priviledge to wear fancy signatures and to remove the limits on our accounts.

Like what I said, I'm still learning. And also if somebody has made into the Hero rank(excluding the given amount of activity) within just 3 months you expect them to be crypto enthusiast?

And also how will you determine the level of the knowledge of every user here if happens that your proposal was taken into consideration? Will you give us the exam? 😂
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September 03, 2019, 05:01:39 AM
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What will be your answer if someone newbie ask you for technical support but you can't assist him...
Thats the exact reason why the internet is at our disposal, a newbie doesn't really need to ask any direct questions to a higher ranked user, such newbie could easily get answers speedily on the internet, no one is under any obligation to answer questions in here, this isn't a school.

You can rank up without being s total bitcoin expert, you could have other strong points, that you'll impact to other on the forum, without it necessarily being about bitcoin, it could be about forum growth, for example numerous users have put in efforts to create notifications bots, userscipts, statistics etc that make the forum more interesting and easy to use, this has earned them numerous merits that aided their rank up.

If it was only about the bitcoin, we'll have just one board and it'll be the bitcoin discussion board.






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September 03, 2019, 05:10:35 AM
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This has nothing to do with my thread, sir.
Honestly, your OP is poorly composed, and I felt hard to catch your key questions with it. I tried to guess, but I seems failed, as well as other users.
In addition, the thread's title looks bad too.
Once again, you should read:
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September 03, 2019, 05:14:00 AM
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This has nothing to do with my thread, sir.
Honestly, your OP is poorly composed, and I felt hard to catch your key questions with it. I tried to guess, but I seems failed, as well as other users.
In addition, the thread's title looks bad too.
Once again, you should read:
Topic title style guide
You are spamming the thread.
If you don't understand the OP, neglect it.
If you think OP is a garbage, report it.
If you can't do both of these, try to understand the OP and respond later, Mr. sig spammer.
Wait for a PM, I will let you know what this thread is all about.
Edit- PM Sent.
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September 03, 2019, 12:27:40 PM
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Legendary-
I have joined the forum at least ~2 years ago and I have pro level knowledge on bitcoin and its related stuff.

What makes you think that Legendary members have obtained a professional level of knowledge on Bitcoin and related matters? There are plenty of Legendary members that are still almost clueless on the subject.

Remember, before the implementation of Merit, you could rise to the level of Legendary without having contributed anything of value. In fact, simply spamming the forum every day for a maximum of 1,000 days would have awarded this spammer with Legendary status.

Conversely, there are lower level members, such as full and sr members that have almost encyclopaedic knowledge of the space, making them far more useful than any spamlord Legendary. I would much rather engage somebody of a lower rank who knows there stuff, than an empty-headed higher rank.

Just my 2-cents.
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September 03, 2019, 01:04:09 PM
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How much full, sr, hero and Legendary members are there now?
A lot of recent as well as previous ranked member has zero knowledge on bitcoin. It's annoying to see people with zero knowledge on bitcoin is also growing up to the next rank, even with the new rank system "merit". What will be your answer if someone newbie ask you for technical support but you can't assist him because you don't know even though you are a Hero/ Legendary member?
Help one another is not fixed on higher ranking member(although it's good to lift others knowledge up from the position you had once been in)  you also as can help out because someone is a newbie do not mean he  completely lacks understanding it just that he/she is new to the forum and don't be surprised if that person growth is sporadic here.

No knowledgeable contribution is a waste regardless of the rank.
Yes you say higher members should help lower ranking members but statistically lower members are not actually seeking for help most of them get the wrong orientation and are busy constituting bounty spamming fun party.

I can be very correct to say you can ask a tangible question on the specific board for such question and not get some quality answers(although spam band wagon might drop by) .

There pin messages that guide newbies the problem is they don't want to read you can't expect to be spoon feed or take refuge in the fact that you are a lower rank member to seek for sympathy.
You have to set the ball rolling and then get people to coach you along the way
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September 03, 2019, 01:27:17 PM
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This forum is not a university or educational institution where students study then they are assigned to an exam that examines their abilities and after passing this exam you get the next rank and so on.
The Merit system means high-quality posts that are not necessarily BTC-related.
If you want a real scale, I think Badges is your Dev&Tech option.

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A lot of recent as well as previous ranked member has zero knowledge on bitcoin. It's annoying to see people with zero knowledge on bitcoin is also growing up to the next rank, even with the new rank system "merit". What will be your answer if someone newbie ask you for technical support but you can't assist him because you don't know even though you are a Hero/ Legendary member?

Don't go hating because they're were you dream to be. This is a forum, we're all here to learn. What you don't know you leave for others would do instead of trying to help but end up passing on a wrong information. We have different topic been discussed on the forum so technically everyone doesn't have to know everything about bitcoin before him or her can rank up. If that was the criteria then what will the average human do? Just understanding the procedure to send, recieve and secure your wallet is enough to become a bitcoin user why then that of the forum should be different. You don't have to be a bitcoin genius to advance in the forum and that's a good thing. The forum only demand the ability to post quality threads.

If a hero/legendary member can direct you to the right source to get the right answer/help or information you need, I believe that's a fair knowledge then demanding the technical knowledge you speak of. Having that knowledge is just a bonus and nothing more.

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September 03, 2019, 01:49:57 PM
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A lot of recent as well as previous ranked member has zero knowledge on bitcoin. It's annoying to see people with zero knowledge on bitcoin is also growing up to the next rank, even with the new rank system "merit". What will be your answer if someone newbie ask you for technical support but you can't assist him because you don't know even though you are a Hero/ Legendary member?

Don't go hating because they're were you dream to be. This is a forum, we're all here to learn. What you don't know you leave for others would do instead of trying to help but end up passing on a wrong information. We have different topic been discussed on the forum so technically everyone doesn't have to know everything about bitcoin before him or her can rank up. If that was the criteria then what will the average human do? Just understanding the procedure to send, recieve and secure your wallet is enough to become a bitcoin user why then that of the forum should be different. You don't have to be a bitcoin genius to advance in the forum and that's a good thing. The forum only demand the ability to post quality threads.

You're exactly right about that, but don't take OP's words too seriously. He's using an alt account from which he posts just to stir shit and be a general nuisance.

If he was doing anything beneficial for the forum then he would post from his main account.

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September 03, 2019, 02:11:04 PM
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I have joined the forum at least ~2 years ago and I have pro level knowledge on bitcoin and its related stuff.
I don't think I have anywhere near the knowledge of most Legendary members here about bitcoin, but that isn't one of the criteria for getting to that rank.  In my case, all it took was time and posting--now it takes merits as well.  I would argue that you don't have to be a mechanic in order to be a high-ranked member of a forum about cars, just interested enough in cars (or the forum) to stick around long enough to get whatever rank we're talking about.

I could care less if higher-ranked members have excellent technical knowledge of bitcoin.  In general, they do, because there are a lot of young folks who seem very educated in mathematics and computers.  But all you really need here is an interest in bitcoin, which I'd say pretty much everyone has except for the worst shitposters.  They're just here to sap money out of whatever bounty they can and probably don't have a genuine interest in anything crypto-related.  And usually they don't advance in the ranks.

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September 03, 2019, 02:13:56 PM
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A lot of recent as well as previous ranked member has zero knowledge on bitcoin. It's annoying to see people with zero knowledge on bitcoin is also growing up to the next rank, even with the new rank system "merit". What will be your answer if someone newbie ask you for technical support but you can't assist him because you don't know even though you are a Hero/ Legendary member?
You don't have to be a bitcoin genius to advance in the forum and that's a good thing. The forum only demand the ability to post quality threads.

Yes, this is very good indeed.

Many people here rank up just by posting trading strategies and sharing their desperation in WO thread, for example. Other user rank up with statistics, others rank up with jokes, others rank up by posting news, commenting politics, and so on.

This forum is already much larger than just a bitcoin technical discussion. ANd this is good. There is room for everyone. Probably OP didn't find his "talent" here yet. How can you contribute here more effectively? Everyone can rank up here, you just need to find where do you fit best.

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