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September 11, 2019, 12:37:45 PM
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btw - what did you end up ordering?

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September 11, 2019, 01:22:08 PM
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I got one S17e for Nov shipment.

Although I like the price of the T17's, I'm trying to maximize TH for my home set-up, at the best efficiency, in the least number of units.

My physical set-up can handle 3 units in regards to power supply and heat exhaust.  To run any more than 3 units, I'd have to do more electrical work, adding a sub panel, etc... and getting exhaust ducts out is kind of a pain, so really dont want to do any more.

And I should be able to sell my current units on eBay for the same price I pay for a new one from Bitmain.
Once this arrives and I sell the pro-50, I'll look at swapping out the next unit.
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September 11, 2019, 01:55:41 PM
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gotcha. Yea, my limit is 20 outlets so 10 of the double plugs or 20 singles or a mix - which is what I have now.  what all are you selling? just the pro50? price?

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September 11, 2019, 02:04:51 PM
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Not 100% sure yet.  I also ordered a unit from Varispin Tech to try out.  48-53Th @3000w.  That should arrive this month.  Wasn't thrilled with the efficiency, but it was better than two s9's, and at the time of order, it was easier to buy than anything on eBay (scams), (and I didnt have enough btc in my wallet to order from Bitmain yet).

In short, I have 6plugs.   Currently running one s17 56th, one s17 pro 50, and one s9i.
On order, one Varispin Starlight miner (sept), one S17e (nov).
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September 11, 2019, 08:15:35 PM
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Was looking at the t17 38th model. It is still available may get it later today.
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September 11, 2019, 11:44:38 PM
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Was looking at the t17 38th model. It is still available may get it later today.

I am waiting on some ebay auctions on my current miners - if they sell then I will buy one or two T17's - if they are still available.

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September 11, 2019, 11:57:28 PM
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Well 2 t17e cost 3194  plus  shipping and trump tax  will do 106th

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=000201909090947096086cx515TP0659

3 t17 cost 3435 plus shipping and trump tax will do 114th

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020190911152351284Iy546I9c063C

either deal arrives nov 11-20

of course  3 s9k  cost 789 plus shipping no trump tax and do 42th

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020190911155155939FluJlFo406C8

if you and two friends order a total of 9 s9k's    you get   126th  in 2 weeks or so.  cost is 2367  plus shipping  no trump tax if 3 orders to 3 different addresses

very interesting set of choices to make here.

I will wait to get some gear in before I order again.   my inno comes in a day  my s9k's ship in 9 days.    that is 50 + 54 = 104.

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September 12, 2019, 12:21:03 AM
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if you need a 3rd address let me know, I dont mind helping ya out if you go that route.

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September 12, 2019, 04:17:25 PM
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Do you think the T17 38Th/s for 1145USD is a good price?
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September 12, 2019, 04:42:19 PM
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Do you think the T17 38Th/s for 1145USD is a good price?

I think it is.  Considering they sell for $3000-4000 on eBay or Amazon.
Efficiency is not quite as good as an S17, but the ROI would be quicker.

If you have the physical set-up for them (enough power, exhaust set-up), you can buy 2 T17's for 80 TH, for less than one S17 at 60-64TH
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September 12, 2019, 05:46:20 PM
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Do you think the T17 38Th/s for 1145USD is a good price?

It is a good price for some people, but not for others. Depends on what you pay for power, how much risk you can tolerate, what you think price and difficulty are going to do in the next year, ..... etc.
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September 12, 2019, 06:02:32 PM
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Also you can only buy 2 from any one batch unless you can get someone else to get another two etc etc

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September 12, 2019, 08:03:30 PM
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without decent price increase return will be longer than the anticipated halvening
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September 12, 2019, 08:31:04 PM
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it is a risky and high priced item. But s9 gear will drop off like mad.  So more efficient gear can be good.
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September 13, 2019, 01:09:19 AM
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it is a risky and high priced item. But s9 gear will drop off like mad.  So more efficient gear can be good.

With presumable close to zero electricity cost from the solar, wouldn't the lowest cost per th/s be the best idea?
S9 could be had on the cheap these days...
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becomes a density issue at a certain point in that case
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September 13, 2019, 01:38:30 AM
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With presumable close to zero electricity cost from the solar, wouldn't the lowest cost per th/s be the best idea?
S9 could be had on the cheap these days...

You need to ROI on your solar array as well as your miners, so not really. Even at 1$ per watt for an array (which is unrealistically low even for huge scale), you'd need to spend around 10K to power each s9. With diff rising, it may take longer than the 25 year life of the solar panels to ROI with s9s.
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September 13, 2019, 12:07:12 PM
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With presumable close to zero electricity cost from the solar, wouldn't the lowest cost per th/s be the best idea?
S9 could be had on the cheap these days...

No not all s9  you would need  s9 and s17 pro.  As time goes on lower the s9 from 13th to 10th and add an s17 pro.

5 s9         = 70th and use 7kwatts

1 s17 pro = 50th and use 2.1kwatts

9.1kwatts

120th earns 120 x 0.00002022 or 0.002426 a day in 100 days that is 0.2426 btc or 2426 usd so buy an s17pro for dec.

drop the 5 s9s to 50th at 4.5kwatts
the 2s17 do 106th at       4.2kwatts

you are at  8.7kwatts  and you grew from 120th to 156th

to do this  you need  say 9 x 24 = 220kwatt system.

and a grid tie   a 220 kwatt system =  460-500 thousand dollars

but and the but is huge  the right states  give big incentives  and the 500 thousand is under 200000.

so you pay 200000 and the original gear for mining is  5 s9's = 2000 and 1 s17 = 3000 only 5000 in mining gear.

you allowed a 220kwatt setup  on your roof  because you created a demand with only 5k in gear.

and you have builtin ability to keep growing the gear at a cost of next to zero.

you need a property that can do 700 panels  you need  to be able to use the tax credits.  Ie  you make money at something else.

If  you can do that solar makes sense.

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September 14, 2019, 12:28:02 AM
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Bitmain just released 64 Th at 2200 watts shipped in 3 days after payment. Once again, Bitmain is on a major cash grab. Diff jumps are going vertical. By today's metrics this offering gets you ROI by halvening. But...no way that holds. These will be 16 months minimum ROI. Bitmain is at it again. wait for newbs to go broke, then by their gear. That's what I've done the last three cycles. NEVER buy these hype/cycle peaks. People laughed when I predicted that you could buy S9I 14 th for $200.00. I bought 100's of them from $369.00 down to $225.00. My new prediction....wait and buy S17's for $500.00 new in the box post halvening. You heard it here first. $10,000,00 BTC will be the new $3,000.00 BTC.
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September 14, 2019, 02:00:55 AM
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Bitmain just released 64 Th at 2200 watts shipped in 3 days after payment. Once again, Bitmain is on a major cash grab. Diff jumps are going vertical. By today's metrics this offering gets you ROI by halvening. But...no way that holds. These will be 16 months minimum ROI. Bitmain is at it again. wait for newbs to go broke, then by their gear. That's what I've done the last three cycles. NEVER buy these hype/cycle peaks. People laughed when I predicted that you could buy S9I 14 th for $200.00. I bought 100's of them from $369.00 down to $225.00. My new prediction....wait and buy S17's for $500.00 new in the box post halvening. You heard it here first. $10,000,00 BTC will be the new $3,000.00 BTC.

Where exactly did you see them releasing that? I've been checking both English and Chinese page every hour for a few days now and nothing is indicating that that your statement is true, as the only S17e 64TH/s that is available now is shipping 21-31 December(3293$) and last available(before that previously noted date) was 21-30 November(2683$).
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