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November 12, 2019, 09:06:26 AM
Last edit: November 12, 2019, 09:34:35 AM by Freemine-001010
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so do you guys think that the s17+ is going to follow this trend of shipping 2-4+ weeks late ,

im on the cusp of ordering through the guys at teslawatt as they are offering the miner

@ 2111.00 +250 = $2361.00 shipped  for the s17+ 74th @ 2900 watts +/- 5% ish

not sure if i should just pick up some of the available s17's  or other gear, maybe someone will post some s17e's

space is no issue , power at 7c per kwh running off peak 18 hrs a day,

i also was going to pick up some cheep s9's on ebay got last one for 177$ shipped 650 freq boards doing 15.5


Thanks , Hope these units get here soon want to see the real world specs,  

heard some mumblings that BM couldn't get chips , and now has a better supply
but who knows , ive chatted with 20+ sellers on Alibaba but not ready to buy more than
a few s9's for the right price
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November 12, 2019, 12:26:46 PM
Last edit: November 13, 2019, 12:50:55 PM by frodocooper
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My 2  t17e  units shipped today the 12th   2 days late

they ship from malaysia   should mean only 2.6% tax vs 27.6%

If bitmain  does that they are good to go.  It is a guess at best.

teslawatt  has the gear in hand zero trump tax.  At least buy 1  or 2 of them from him.

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November 12, 2019, 12:38:55 PM
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Got this from Bitmain regarding price adjustments:

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Hello ******,

Thanks for your consultation!

1) The overpaid amount will be released after your order is shipped out and you can choose to use it in your new orders or refund.
2) If you choose refund, please follow up this ticket and we will guide you to provide the related refund info.

Please let us know if you have additional questions or concerns.

Best regards,
Carol
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It appears so far that:
a. after order is shipped credit [possible coupon] or refund is given;
b. for a refund you have to contact them; and
c. finally, the order has to be shipped to be queued up for a refund/coupon-funds.

Do bear in mind it took 3 days to get this reply; guess they are understaffed at the moment.
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November 12, 2019, 01:00:53 PM
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1) The overpaid amount will be released after your order is shipped out and you can choose to use it in your new orders or refund.
2) If you choose refund, please follow up this ticket and we will guide you to provide the related refund info.



well this blows, my existing order was supposed to ship mid December but now shows as mid January. I was hoping to use the credit I have coming to place another order now.



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November 12, 2019, 01:20:12 PM
Last edit: November 13, 2019, 12:52:34 PM by frodocooper
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I need to correct my earlier post.

My s17 pro 53th was shipped today and due thursday.

not my 2x 17e's

now my 2x 17e's  were paid 3569  and now are marked 2705  so that is 865.

they do not have a change in the 1-10 of nov date.

So they are now 2 days late.

If they gave me them and a 865 credit I would buy another s17 pro.

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November 12, 2019, 01:22:42 PM
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About a year ago Bitmain was on the brink of bankruptcy. It's really too bad that they didn't go over the edge. They are an insanely greedy Co that basically runs around raping and piledging everyone and everything that can put a $ in their swollen coffers. They are deceitful and self serving. Let's pray that the order of the Universe aligns against them and administers long overdue justice, to their cult of " Never enough money".
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November 12, 2019, 01:29:49 PM
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hmm  lots of hate for lots of asic builders.

Innosilicon ------------------------- screwed me somewhat this year
MicroBT/pangolin------------------  screwed me somewhat this year
Bitmain ---------------------------- screwed me somewhat  and could really hammer me  as I have:
  
2x t17e
1x t17
1x t17+    all on orders   cost me more then  6k

who is not on that list  Avalon  they did nothing wrong to me this year.

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November 12, 2019, 03:43:19 PM
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Got this from Bitmain regarding price adjustments:

I received a different answer from same person, although your response appears more accurate based on the information that was on the site when I ordered. Coupons were only to be provided based on price after shipment and only if price lower than purchase price within 10 days after shipment.

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Thanks for your consultation!

The overpai amount was already released in your account, now you have credit of 284USD.
You can choose to use it in your new orders or refund after the order is shipped out, thanks.

Please let us know if you have additional questions or concerns.

Best regards,
Carol
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As you can see, they told me it was already released and that I have a credit, however, I have no coupons or credit showing on my account currently and see nothing when trying to place an order. Unless their pricing remains the same, my actual credit can be more or less depending on price once it ships.
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November 12, 2019, 04:07:50 PM
Last edit: November 13, 2019, 12:54:31 PM by frodocooper
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yeah this is what they did with my s9k units.

i finall received a mysterious coupon which may have been for the s9k.  since it was 2x 57 = 114. and the coupon was for more.  i did not freak out.

in the case of my two t17e units it is 865 i dont want to get screwed on this.

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November 12, 2019, 04:18:04 PM
Last edit: November 13, 2019, 12:55:56 PM by frodocooper
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Let me know how this goes I am also in chat with them as well this is what I got.  I id take credit or refund anything but coupon I have two 368$ I can't sell for 50% of the value considering I should be getting about 3x800+ in credits much rather anything but coupon if possible
My order shipped out a little over a day ago

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Thanks for your consultation!

Your order is ready for shipment and will be shipped out soon. You can choose to refund after your order is shipped out.

Please let us know if you have additional questions or concerns.

Best regards,
Carol
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November 12, 2019, 04:50:00 PM
Last edit: November 13, 2019, 12:56:33 PM by frodocooper
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My 2  t17e  units shipped today the 12th   2 days late

they ship from malaysia   should mean only 2.6% tax vs 27.6%

If bitmain  does that they are good to go.  It is a guess at best.

teslawatt  has the gear in hand zero trump tax.  At least buy 1  or 2 of them from him.

i dont think anyone has the s17+  74 th model yet ,  every supplier has only offered the pre-order for dec 21-31 ship date,
i just haven't found a miner with the hashrate/power/price,   to match up, the efficiency is really what i need as we all do  Grin
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November 13, 2019, 11:00:50 AM
Last edit: November 13, 2019, 12:58:19 PM by frodocooper
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Just some notes about these "Credit" as they call it in Bitmain:

Quote from: Carol
In addition, now you have credit of 853USD, you can choose to use it in your new orders or refund. If you choose refund, you need to provide a valid BTC wallet address, thanks.

- Carol

Quote from: Bella
Customer cannot see credit, but can ask us to move your credit to new order.
Please note new order should be with USD/Paypal payment method.

- Bella

Since those are the conditions of using it. I am going to refund it and we will see how that whole process goes.
Figured, some might find this info useful.
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November 13, 2019, 01:14:18 PM
Last edit: November 13, 2019, 01:18:05 PM by frodocooper
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so - for refund they will give btc? but for using it as credit to a new order, the new order cannot be in btc? what malarkey is this?

I have a "credit" that I want to use to place an order right now for another 17 series miner but they also told me I have to wait until my existing order ships.... why is that? in case the price changes again and hence the credit changes?



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November 13, 2019, 01:46:57 PM
Last edit: November 14, 2019, 12:57:53 AM by frodocooper
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Just some notes about these "Credit" as they call it in Bitmain...

Remind me to give you some merit for this. I am waiting until the 19 th of Nov to send merit again as I am try to figure out if I have a
25
30
50

point merit source
I last gave out merits on the 18th of oct.

Back to this post and bitmain in general.

I have a s17 pro in transit it shipped from and was built in malaysia so tax is 48 dollars not 550 like my last two from China.
Right now I have a 368 coupon
I also have 2x t17e that I paid 3569 and are listed at 2704   so I should get a 865 credit.
This gear still says Nov 1-10 shipping time.  it is the 13th  I am fairly annoyed about it as I would certainly use the 865 credit on another s17pro since It is built in and comes from Malaysia.  so 1999-865 = 1134+ 120+50 = 1304 net  with tax and shipping.
I would also use my 368 coupon on the s17 pro   and 1999-368 = 1631 + 120 + 50 = 1801 net.

I am delayed due to bitmain on two orders I just mentioned.

Worse off is the  not knowing   if the 2x t17e  will ship from malaysia  and be counting as a 3330 sale   tax of 70  or if they ship from china and are tax at 830

So
2x t17e  late and     will tax be 70 or 830
1x t17    due in dec  will tax be 25 or 270
1x t17+  due in dec  will tax be 50 or 550

not knowing the tax 145 or 1600   or maybe one from column a and two from column b  for a total of 890  makes doing business hard.

In a perfect world  I get all the gear on the low tax 145

I buy 2 more s17 pro for 3105 total.

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November 13, 2019, 04:21:25 PM
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I have a "credit" that I want to use to place an order right now for another 17 series miner but they also told me I have to wait until my existing order ships.... why is that? in case the price changes again and hence the credit changes?

Based on what was posted above and what they told me this morning, you don't need to wait until order ships, but you need to place the order with PayPal and then inform them of the order ID for them to apply the credit. You could wait until order ships to see if they actually put coupons on your account. It's not clear if they will be doing that or not, but you can apply existing credit based on latest pricing update they sent out. I would expect them to apply coupons after shipping, otherwise people aren't going to easily know what their "hidden credit" is or how to use it without contacting support. If you apply the credit now, you're at least guaranteed the credit won't reduce, but it could technically increase as well.
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November 13, 2019, 04:39:38 PM
Last edit: November 14, 2019, 12:59:06 AM by frodocooper
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yea, but paying with paypal wont work for me. I would have to cash out btc to fiat and then place the order. I do not wish to go that route, I will have to wait for a refund. I have an existing coupon I want to use with the refund/credit as well.

I emailed them 3 days ago and still waiting for a response.



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November 13, 2019, 07:05:30 PM
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Emailed them today as well asking for a refund of the difference of one of the orders that have shipped out and provided them a bitcoin address, will update if I get anything or if they roadblock me with a coupon or whatnot
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November 13, 2019, 09:58:24 PM
Last edit: November 14, 2019, 01:00:16 AM by frodocooper
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i finall received a mysterious coupon which may have been for the s9k.  since it was 2x 57 = 114. and the coupon was for more.  i did not freak out.

My case was different , they didn't give me any coupons for the S9ks , however they have reduced the remaining amount I have to pay for the Antminer T17e December batch, i got a little over 230$ discount, plus i used a 150$ coupon for that, got me a 200$ coupon which i sold for about 100$ if i am not mistaken, so i got this T17e for really cheap, so i can't complain.

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since I  have not got an answer on the s9k  I sent this today.

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Bitmain <support@bitmainhelp.zendesk.com>
To: philipma1957 <phil******@ y*** . com>
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Dear philipma1957
Thanks for reaching out to Bitmain!
Our working hours are 9am-6pm Beijing time (GMT+8) from Monday to Friday.
We are working hard to respond quickly to every query. Thank you for your patience.
To add additional comments, reply to this email.
For more information and assistance, please refer to our FAQ page: https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us
   
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Nov 14, 07:44 CST

I have never received a proper answer to my question on Order ID: 00120190******** 2019-08-08 *******

I paid you $798.91 you said the order was only 684.91

I am due a credit of 114.00.

I have multiple PayPal orders right now I would like a credit of 114 to my pay pal order payment Order ID: 001201******* was paid with PayPal. on 2019-10-16 ******

I paid 1083.06 with my PayPal account. I am going to request a refund of 114 via my PayPal account.

Please get back to me on this. As I am due a larger refund on an other order.
I want these credits please. reply soon.

Philip ******* also known as philipma1957 of bitcointalk.org

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The only thing that is worrying me about the refund of these credits is what price will they take into account.
Will they take the price when I asked for refund (yesterday- 8750$), will they take the price of order (2019.09.09.-10256$)- I HOPE NOT, or will they take the price when they actually refund (which can be any day they choose).
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