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September 06, 2019, 08:35:45 AM
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September 07, 2019, 10:55:49 AM
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Yesterday, I tested your site and went all-in (with my free 0.0005BTC). It produced an error. I clicked again, and I lost the bet. That error made me question fairness, it doesn't look like something a user can avoid, which means it can be manipulated.

Question about fairness
VIPGAME uses the EOS transaction hash to generate its results, ensuring absolute fairness to all players.
EOS produces several blocks per second. I'm not familiar with using a blockchain as random input (it's the first time I see this implementation), so I have to ask: how can you ensure the bet uses the next block, and how can you guarantee I wouldn't just get an error if the result is in my favour? Or how can you guarantee you won't select one out of the next two results (in less than a second) after I click? The difference could be caused by lag, but it could also be manipulated. How can a player know for sure it's fair?

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September 11, 2019, 02:47:54 AM
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Yesterday, I tested your site and went all-in (with my free 0.0005BTC). It produced an error. I clicked again, and I lost the bet. That error made me question fairness, it doesn't look like something a user can avoid, which means it can be manipulated.

Question about fairness
VIPGAME uses the EOS transaction hash to generate its results, ensuring absolute fairness to all players.
EOS produces several blocks per second. I'm not familiar with using a blockchain as random input (it's the first time I see this implementation), so I have to ask: how can you ensure the bet uses the next block, and how can you guarantee I wouldn't just get an error if the result is in my favour? Or how can you guarantee you won't select one out of the next two results (in less than a second) after I click? The difference could be caused by lag, but it could also be manipulated. How can a player know for sure it's fair?

The result of VIPGAME is determined by HASH and cannot be manipulated. There may be problems with the network or display. You can join the telegraph group https://t.me/vipgameio and directly report it to the administrator.

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September 12, 2019, 01:57:53 PM
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it's a thread here in the bitcointalk forum, isn't it? so it would also be good if questions were answered here and not in telegram Tongue

i'm glad about the test + short report of LoyceV here. because it's the official thread and therefore everything may be collected here.
although there is actually also this thread here. but now also telegram with to include has no sense in my opinion Smiley

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September 12, 2019, 02:07:32 PM
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it's a thread here in the bitcointalk forum, isn't it? so it would also be good if questions were answered here and not in telegram Tongue
Instead of answering my question, Cherkez tries to distract from the subject by changing the topic and answers something completely random. Therefore, I've opened a thread in Reputation: vipgame.io claims to be fair but can't prove it

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i'm glad about the test + short report of LoyceV here. because it's the official thread and therefore everything may be collected here.
I honestly don't know why any self-respecting casino would ever post on the Investor-based games board. Everyone knows this board is mainly used for Bitcoin doublers and similar scams.

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September 18, 2019, 03:15:05 AM
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it's a thread here in the bitcointalk forum, isn't it? so it would also be good if questions were answered here and not in telegram Tongue
Instead of answering my question, Cherkez tries to distract from the subject by changing the topic and answers something completely random. Therefore, I've opened a thread in Reputation: vipgame.io claims to be fair but can't prove it

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i'm glad about the test + short report of LoyceV here. because it's the official thread and therefore everything may be collected here.
I honestly don't know why any self-respecting casino would ever post on the Investor-based games board. Everyone knows this board is mainly used for Bitcoin doublers and similar scams.

Oh? I get it, then I transfer the theme.

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Question about fairness
VIPGAME uses the EOS transaction hash to generate its results, ensuring absolute fairness to all players.
EOS produces several blocks per second. I'm not familiar with using a blockchain as random input (it's the first time I see this implementation), so I have to ask: how can you ensure the bet uses the next block, and how can you guarantee I wouldn't just get an error if the result is in my favour? Or how can you guarantee you won't select one out of the next two results (in less than a second) after I click? The difference could be caused by lag, but it could also be manipulated. How can a player know for sure it's fair?
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I missed this problem...

According to the network situation, the date and time of this transaction(bet) to be recorded in one of the blocks of the blockchain are finally calculated. No one knows what the hash of the next block is.
We can't guarantee exactly which block the transaction(bet) will appear after the player bet. What's more, we don't know what the hash value of the block after the transaction is written. So no one can control the result.

When we know the hash value of a block, this block has already been generated, and we can no longer put your bet trade in the previous block. So we can’t manipulate your winning or losing.

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September 27, 2019, 08:55:03 AM
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