TECSHARE is abusing the trust system

[TECSHARE]

In the last two weeks we have seen the words racist and scammer used in very very poor fashion on the forum. These words have no meaning nowadays because of you people. Open a dictionary or google the proper terms you are looking for.
These are now used for clickbait to gather the uneducated pitchfork mobs. The world has gone to shit in this regard, don't let our forum follow.

The enthusiasm with which people engage in these mobs is terrifying, never once considering that inevitably they will be on the other end, because now that is just the accepted standard.

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[The Sceptical Chymist]

He is not scammer, he is trusted trader but his moral is questionable.

I don't even think his moral(s) are questionable, at least from what he's demonstrated on this forum.  He's a hot-headed troll, yes, but he's not a scammer from what I've seen.  In fact I do recall writing quite a long time ago that I would do business with him if we hadn't butted heads and made such a relationship untenable.  I'm not sure what kind of argument Vod is trying to make here, but I'd certainly like some clarification on the "scammer" aspect of it.

Lobbying to get yourself on DT isn't sinister in and of itself, and we all knew TECSHARE wanted and thinks he deserves to be on it.  I kind of figured he'd end up back on the list eventually, along with OgNasty.

[TECSHARE]

He is not scammer, he is trusted trader but his moral is questionable.

I don't even think his moral(s) are questionable, at least from what he's demonstrated on this forum.  He's a hot-headed troll, yes, but he's not a scammer from what I've seen.  In fact I do recall writing quite a long time ago that I would do business with him if we hadn't butted heads and made such a relationship untenable.  I'm not sure what kind of argument Vod is trying to make here, but I'd certainly like some clarification on the "scammer" aspect of it.

Lobbying to get yourself on DT isn't sinister in and of itself, and we all knew TECSHARE wanted and thinks he deserves to be on it.  I kind of figured he'd end up back on the list eventually, along with OgNasty.

This is what the clown car is terrified of right here. People who don't necessarily like each other maintaining principals we are all held to, regardless of our personal feelings. After all, if we aren't too busy bickering, we might realize we agree on something. Something that might mean they are also held to those standards if too many people get "uppity" and start following actual principles instead of just a popularity contest.

[suchmoon]

exactly, also there is no conspiracy, everything I've described above has already happened , another totally flat argument

This didn't happen:

when they finally respond with excellent arguments, adding them ALL to your distrust list.

You created a bogus flag and got excluded for it. Not because of your non-existent "excellent arguments".

by the primary merit source of the DT mafia...

Thank you, I'm doing my best.

[Vod]

In the last two weeks we have seen the words racist and scammer used in very very poor fashion on the forum.

And all the lying, too.   Didn't you post several times you would be changing my negative trust to neutral?  You kept repeating that until things calmed down, then you did nothing.  :/

[Vispilio]

You created a bogus flag and got excluded for it. Not because of your non-existent "excellent arguments".

The arguments are very real, and you seem to love them , and ok good to know by your own admission, since that flag is long removed now,

I look forward to seeing you remove the exclusion this week.

[suchmoon]

The arguments are very real, and you seem to love them

None of the arguments (such as racism) presented are valid reasons for a flag.

and ok good to know by your own admission, since that flag is long removed now,

Do you still think it was ok to create the flag to begin with? And why did you withdraw your support for it?

[TECSHARE]

The arguments are very real, and you seem to love them

None of the arguments (such as racism) presented are valid reasons for a flag.

and ok good to know by your own admission, since that flag is long removed now,

Do you still think it was ok to create the flag to begin with? And why did you withdraw your support for it?

Could it be because he was targeted using the same methodology first? Nah. I am sure all these attacks on me that sprung up after convincing several of the Turkish members to withdraw support for it because it doesn't serve their goals are total coincidences as well. We cant have the out group acting respectable and earning the respect of too many users right? That could challenge your unilateral nepotistic control now couldn't it?

They have been under attack, but not because they are Turkish, but because they are not part of the special boy default trust circus club and their presence challenges your control.

[nutildah]

I love this critical analysis of everyone I add to my trust list as if I obviously should be suspect, but any time I bring up say the inclusion of Nutilduhhh even though the account was publicly offered for sale, no one bothers replying. Of course I am required to defend my inclusions but no one else in the clown car mob is. More rules for thee but not for me, that's Bitcointalk SOP.

I'm not the one going around adding new DT1 members from local boards one after another like you are. If you want to dig for flaws in my own trust system setup, feel free.

You want to REALLY know why I added those Turkish users? Because they were just barely off the DT and I wanted to see it more diverse.

Wrong. With the exception of Vispilio, they were all already on DT when you added them. Matthias added you in the week of 6/22, along with a dozen other DT1s. He didn't become DT1 until 8/2. You added him to your trust list 3 hours later.

8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM   Matthias9515* (2) trusts TECSHARE
8/2/2019 8:25:25 PM   TECSHARE (0) trusts Matthias9515 (2)

This guy was made DT1 in the week of 6/29. You added him on 7/23, and when he failed to reciprocate in a period of 5 days, you dumped him:

7/23/2019 9:34:59 PM   TECSHARE (0) trusts by rallier (2)
7/28/2019 3:18:28 AM   TECSHARE (0) no longer trusts by rallier

Kalemder was made DT1 on 9/4/2019 at 12:35:13 AM. You included him 16 hours later.

bobita was made DT1 on 8/2/2019. You included him 2 days later.

mhanbostanci was re-added to DT1 on 9/4. You included him 3 days later.

Regardless, is "wanting to see it more diverse" a good reason to add people to your trust list?

Additionally because anyone the resident clowns exclude I immediately find interest in.

Is this also a good reason to add people to your trust list?

[Vod]

I won't go so far as to say this makes him a "scammer," but its pretty dishonest behavior.

I have not used the word "scam" in my official complaint on his trust page.  To me, scammer can mean someone who operates in a dishonest or deceptive way.  But not everyone believes that, so I just stated what happened and let people come to their own conclusions.

There should really be an open discussion as to whether or not this type of behavior is an acceptable practice for a DT1 member, and as shown by the fact that TECSHARE is now back at -1, its safe to say that the community agrees that its not.

The community will decide overall.  If some stop trusting me because I called out a cheater, more people will cheat.  If not, it should be a warning to others wanting to trade trust that we will not tolerate it.

[teeGUMES]

In the last two weeks we have seen the words racist and scammer used in very very poor fashion on the forum.

And all the lying, too.   Didn't you post several times you would be changing my negative trust to neutral?  You kept repeating that until things calmed down, then you did nothing.  :/

You're right. You continued to be a piece of shit in general so I decided it would stick. Who runs my trust/feedback lists? Certainly not you. Begging me in PM the moment I turned net positive in DT1 again was icing on the cake.

[Vod]

Begging me in PM the moment I turned net positive in DT1 again was icing on the cake.

Six days ago?  

I had decided to give you another chance after all the promises you made, but you've been an obvious OG copy cat since day one.  Now you are posting misleading statements like the one above, just like he does.  

Considering the amicable history we've had in PM, your ignoring my PM and then lying about when it was sent is very childish - same thing you accuse me of being.

Edit:  Since you've lied about the contents and time of a PM I sent you, I've blocked your PMs.   Keep everything public from now on.

[teeGUMES]

Begging me in PM the moment I turned net positive in DT1 again was icing on the cake.

Six days ago?  

I had decided to give you another chance after all the promises you made, but you've been an obvious OG copy cat since day one.  Now you are posting misleading statements like the one above, just like he does. 

Considering the amicable history we've had in PM, your ignoring my PM and then lying about when it was sent is very childish - same thing you accuse me of being.

Try not to put words in my mouth. I said you were a piece of shit.. not childish.
This also seems like you are trying to bait me into releasing private messages so you can use that against me. I believe I turned net positive this month and I received your PM begging me to remove my negative this month. Good enough timeline for me and my statement.

You're not worth my time replying to anymore and any communication from yourself to me Vod can be considered unsolicited.

[Vod]

Try not to put words in my mouth. I said you were a piece of shit.. not childish.

Liar.  

Publicly doxxed a member of the bitcointalk community. Backtracked once he slept on it and realized it was a bad idea. Impulse doxxing over a petty dispute is childish.

I believe I turned net positive this month and I received your PM begging me to remove my negative this month. Good enough timeline for me and my statement.

I never even asked for you to remove the negative, much less beg, liar.

[teeGUMES]

Try not to put words in my mouth. I said you were a piece of shit.. not childish.

Liar.  

Publicly doxxed a member of the bitcointalk community. Backtracked once he slept on it and realized it was a bad idea. Impulse doxxing over a petty dispute is childish.

I believe I turned net positive this month and I received your PM begging me to remove my negative this month. Good enough timeline for me and my statement.

I never even asked for you to remove the negative, much less beg, liar.

1.5minutes in between my reply and his post. Preplanned attack. Get your drama kick off someone else.

[Vod]

1.5minutes in between my reply and his post. Preplanned attack. Get your drama kick off someone else.

My drama kick was sending you a PM telling you OG was making a good attempt to ignore me and I didn't want to stir up drama?  You are the drama queen lol.

Ok, back to topic.  

[TECSHARE]

I love this critical analysis of everyone I add to my trust list as if I obviously should be suspect, but any time I bring up say the inclusion of Nutilduhhh even though the account was publicly offered for sale, no one bothers replying. Of course I am required to defend my inclusions but no one else in the clown car mob is. More rules for thee but not for me, that's Bitcointalk SOP.

I'm not the one going around adding new DT1 members from local boards one after another like you are. If you want to dig for flaws in my own trust system setup, feel free.

You want to REALLY know why I added those Turkish users? Because they were just barely off the DT and I wanted to see it more diverse.

Wrong. With the exception of Vispilio, they were all already on DT when you added them. Matthias added you in the week of 6/22, along with a dozen other DT1s. He didn't become DT1 until 8/2. You added him to your trust list 3 hours later.

8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM   Matthias9515* (2) trusts TECSHARE
8/2/2019 8:25:25 PM   TECSHARE (0) trusts Matthias9515 (2)

This guy was made DT1 in the week of 6/29. You added him on 7/23, and when he failed to reciprocate in a period of 5 days, you dumped him:

7/23/2019 9:34:59 PM   TECSHARE (0) trusts by rallier (2)
7/28/2019 3:18:28 AM   TECSHARE (0) no longer trusts by rallier

Kalemder was made DT1 on 9/4/2019 at 12:35:13 AM. You included him 16 hours later.

bobita was made DT1 on 8/2/2019. You included him 2 days later.

mhanbostanci was re-added to DT1 on 9/4. You included him 3 days later.

Regardless, is "wanting to see it more diverse" a good reason to add people to your trust list?

Additionally because anyone the resident clowns exclude I immediately find interest in.

Is this also a good reason to add people to your trust list?

I know you are trying desperately to rekindle this narrative and attempt upon my character, but it has already been addressed and failed. Now the simple fact that I add people to my trust list is grounds for suspicion? How desperate are you clowns, really? YOU are the primary flaw in your trust system setup, as far as anyone knows your account is bought and you have no way to prove otherwise. Yet here you are playing Rachel Maddow crafing your very own little Russian Turkish collusion narrative to draw attention away from you and yours in an exceptionally pathetic attempt to silence me and prevent me from having any say in this system, because it means your pals don't get to play Bitdictators anymore.

Regarding your accusation... They were on the default trust, as "0", so effectively for many purposes they were only on it after I added them. The others who were already on it I added because they were trusted by other Turkish individuals I have had contact with and felt were trustworthy. Regarding by rallier, it is rather convenient how you cropped that log...

"7/28/2019 3:18:28 AM    TECSHARE (-1) no longer trusts by rallier (2)
7/27/2019 6:43:30 PM    taikuri13 (11) trusts witcher_sense (9)
7/26/2019 4:15:52 PM    by rallier (2) no longer distrusts Last of the V8s (2)
7/26/2019 4:15:52 PM    by rallier (2) changed from distrusting to trusting owlcatz (25)"

I didn't like some of his recent trust list changes so I removed him.

Yes wanting to see the trust list be more diverse is a good reason to add people, because the current clown cartel is nepotistic, abusive, arbitrary, and destructive to the overall community. That behavior ends when power is distributed enough that they can't run roughshod over anyone who dares speak a word against them, much like the entire purpose of these coordinated attacks against myself the moment this interaction with the Turks changed the trust list status quo.

There are plenty of people on my trust list that don't add me reciprocally, even people I don't particularly like. This whole fantasy you have imagineered to project upon me is just the latest sadly transparent attempt to "get me" and I find it hard not laugh at how increasingly desperate and dumb you all look doing it.

 

[Vod]

"7/28/2019 3:18:28 AM    TECSHARE (-1) no longer trusts by rallier (2)
7/27/2019 6:43:30 PM    taikuri13 (11) trusts witcher_sense (9)
7/26/2019 4:15:52 PM    by rallier (2) no longer distrusts Last of the V8s (2)
7/26/2019 4:15:52 PM    by rallier (2) changed from distrusting to trusting owlcatz (25)"

I didn't like some of his recent trust list changes so I removed him.

His most recent change was by rallier no longer distrusts Last of the V8s

but look!

8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM   TECSHARE no longer distrusts Last of the V8s
(Part of the change over cycle)

[TECSHARE]

"7/28/2019 3:18:28 AM    TECSHARE (-1) no longer trusts by rallier (2)
7/27/2019 6:43:30 PM    taikuri13 (11) trusts witcher_sense (9)
7/26/2019 4:15:52 PM    by rallier (2) no longer distrusts Last of the V8s (2)
7/26/2019 4:15:52 PM    by rallier (2) changed from distrusting to trusting owlcatz (25)"

I didn't like some of his recent trust list changes so I removed him.

His most recent change was by rallier no longer distrusts Last of the V8s

but look!

8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM   TECSHARE no longer distrusts Last of the V8s

Just another lie from the scammer TECSHARE.  :/

You mean the trust list change over cycle?

"8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    TMAN (24) no longer trusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    mindrust (1) no longer trusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    nutildah (11) no longer trusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    micgoossens (4) no longer trusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    kenzawak (-7) no longer trusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    DireWolfM14 (7) no longer trusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    TECSHARE (-1) no longer distrusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    OgNasty (4) no longer distrusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    Rmcdermott927 (-2) no longer distrusts Last of the V8s (2)
8/2/2019 5:33:52 PM    ekiller (-2) no longer distrusts Last of the V8s (2)"

I guess they are all part of the conspiracy. Come on Vod, this is pathetic, even for you.

[hacker1001101001]

To be clear - I'm stating that TECSHARE's trust ratings should not be considered honest and there is an agenda behind his trust list manipulation.   He is scamming the trust system.   :/

I think one can use ~TECSHARE to solve this issue and to avoid his ratings.

He is in DT due to the community inclusions he has received, it cannot be stated as scamming the trust system nor manipulation.

Or you could solve this issue by using ~Vod, I would think that would be a more effective solution, especially since he is abusing the trust system again to play his little petty games of retribution.

Vod   2019-09-09 Reference "This profile has fundamentally abused the trust system, trading positive trust with as many others as possible to get on Default Trust. See reference and the BPIP DT Change Log for examples. Do not trust this profile's trust of others by adding ~TECSHARE to your personal trust list. "

This feedback left by VOD is total mess here, I don't know how he thinks this would help newbies to stay safe, as TECSHARE is not an harm to newbies here rather much helpful as it's seen. He has not even traded positive trust, and has reached DT due is own ways of dealing around with the issue's here.

One can use trust list to handle such issue, really all this conspires as made up drama to hit TECSHARE, and get him off DT with whatever childish made up accusation you can.

I didn't like some of his recent trust list changes so I removed him.

His most recent change was by rallier no longer distrusts Last of the V8s

Look, perfect example of twisting the situation as per your agenda, its clearly stated by TECSHARE that he did this because he didn't like some of the changes in rallier's trust list.

He said some changes and accuser's still starts cherry picking, to fit some agendas. This reflects really bad on you dude !