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September 10, 2019, 10:47:43 PM
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You guys think TS is conspiring with others about the trust system more than the DT1 who have been on since the start?
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September 11, 2019, 12:10:22 AM
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Briefly skimmed through the thread. Regardless of your opinion of Tech's Hare, you should be changing the title to something that more closely connects with the accusation.

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I don't believe that Tecshare is a scammer.

Regularly abrasive and rude - yes.

He often voices the opposite of the views held by a vast majority on DT.

But I think his opinions are genuinely held.

I believe his dissent from the norm is the main reason why he gets trust list inclusions.

It is a bit of "the enemy of my enemy - is my friend".

I often disagree with his opinion but it does provide for good discussion.

So far I have not seen Tecshare misuse his DT1 role by giving unwarranted negative feedback. (other than the reciprocal negatives between him and vod).

DT is ultimately about placing accurate feedback rather than manners or opinions.

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Last edit: September 11, 2019, 02:43:42 PM by TECSHARE
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I don't believe that Tecshare is a scammer.

Regularly abrasive and rude - yes.

He often voices the opposite of the views held by a vast majority on DT.

But I think his opinions are genuinely held.

I believe his dissent from the norm is the main reason why he gets trust list inclusions.

It is a bit of "the enemy of my enemy - is my friend".

I often disagree with his opinion but it does provide for good discussion.

So far I have not seen Tecshare misuse his DT1 role by giving unwarranted negative feedback. (other than the reciprocal negatives between him and vod).

DT is ultimately about placing accurate feedback rather than manners or opinions.

Thanks for the support. I just want to correct one thing though. I never gave Vod a retaliatory trust rating, ever. He has given me negative ratings several times over the years for criticizing his behavior, but the community forced him to remove it, and I have never once responded in kind. Then earlier this year when he doxed and reported OGNasty to the IRS, I finally negative rated him for that. Of course a short time later here he is retaliating.


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September 11, 2019, 03:49:31 PM
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I believe his dissent from the norm is the main reason why he gets trust list inclusions.

I'm of the firm opinion that he gets inclusions as a thanks for including others. There's simply no good reason for him to add 7 local board DT1 members whom he had no prior history with or knowledge of until they joined DT1.

It is a bit of "the enemy of my enemy - is my friend".

Perhaps. Still not a great reason to add someone to your trust list.

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September 11, 2019, 05:29:12 PM
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Vod please stop fooling yourself,its getting more and more ridiculous you are just being pathetic,trying hard to counter the problems you've made,tecshare deserves his position not like you !
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September 14, 2019, 02:23:23 AM
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Thanks for the support. I just want to correct one thing though. I never gave Vod a retaliatory trust rating, ever. He has given me negative ratings several times over the years for criticizing his behavior, but the community forced him to remove it, and I have never once responded in kind. Then earlier this year when he doxed and reported OGNasty to the IRS, I finally negative rated him for that. Of course a short time later here he is retaliating.

Let me clear things up for everyone.   At no time has the community forced me to remove anything.  I have given techy many chances over the years, but I can't tolerate trust abuse coordinated to ruin my reputation.  One day I may remove it yet again in yet another interest of peace, but right now he needs to know his abuse is noticed and unwanted.

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Thanks for the support. I just want to correct one thing though. I never gave Vod a retaliatory trust rating, ever. He has given me negative ratings several times over the years for criticizing his behavior, but the community forced him to remove it, and I have never once responded in kind. Then earlier this year when he doxed and reported OGNasty to the IRS, I finally negative rated him for that. Of course a short time later here he is retaliating.

Let me clear things up for everyone.   At no time has the community forced me to remove anything.  I have given techy many chances over the years, but I can't tolerate trust abuse coordinated to ruin my reputation.  One day I may remove it yet again in yet another interest of peace, but right now he needs to know his abuse is noticed and unwanted.

I used the trust system against you once, that was for you doxing and reporting OGNasty to the IRS, and Theymos himself excluded you over it and said that was a valid case for a negative rating. You on the other hand, have left me completely undocumented and fabricated negative ratings repeatedly over the past 6 years, and in order to save face, yes you were forced to remove them. So is your argument now I coordinated with myself to have you repeatedly abuse the trust system against me over 6 years? You didn't "give me any chances", you have been stalking me and demonstrably lying about me to justify your repeated abuse of the trust system ratings over half a decade because I dared publicly criticize your behavior. In the interest of peace... lol please Vod, I can only piss myself laughing so much at your presentation of false moderation and reason. Everyone knows you boil bunnies under a shrine with my profile pic in it every night before bed.

At this point I don't even blame you, I blame this community for continuing to prop you up and enabling your long history of unstable and abusive behavior against anyone who criticizes you. This is exactly the kind of shit that makes me not at all feel bad about poking fun at these circus acts, because this community is too busy hiding in a corner unwilling to take a difficult stand to fix the problem, but they are perfectly willing to bitch about the symptoms of not doing so perpetually and pin the fault on their favorite scapegoats coincidentally designated by the perpetrators.

It costs the community as individuals nothing to leave these abusers in a position of authority, and it costs me nothing to piss in the eyes of these clowns so much they throw entire festivals to try to slander me. In summary, none of this drama bothers me, but I would much rather be doing my own thing instead of dealing with the sad party magician and his clown friends. Unfortunately I don't have a choice in the matter until the community stops pretending these people are in any way respectable and should be in any position of authority over anyone, and starts collectively taking responsibility for everyone they have been turning a blind eye to. Until that happens this place is always going to be 4Chan with an extensive research library, no matter what I do.

Enjoy your desperate attempts to create even more confusion to cover up for your own behavior Vod.



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September 14, 2019, 03:44:00 AM
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I used the trust system against you once, that was for you doxing and reporting OGNasty to the IRS, and Theymos himself excluded you over it and said that was a valid case for a negative rating.

Oh, you'll include Theymos in your coordinated attacks against me now?  Is that why he has excluded you "for the first time" for over five years?   You read his mind like you do mine?   No wonder you are obsessed with clowns and circus acts...  Ah techy, your stupidity amuses me,and time you spend making up these theories is flattering.

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I used the trust system against you once, that was for you doxing and reporting OGNasty to the IRS, and Theymos himself excluded you over it and said that was a valid case for a negative rating.

Oh, you'll include Theymos in your coordinated attacks against me now?  Is that why he has excluded you "for the first time" for over five years?   You read his mind like you do mine?   No wonder you are obsessed with clowns and circus acts...  Ah techy, your stupidity amuses me,and time you spend making up these theories is flattering.

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You never did tell me who I am coordinating with, myself? Theymos?

It is a documented fact regardless of what you want to characterize it as. Also, Theymos is currently only excluding one of us right now, so the fact he excluded me in the past is irrelevant.




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You never did tell me who I am coordinating with, myself? Theymos?

lol - you never did ask.

There's no way to have a conversation with you, is there?  Your goal is simply to disrupt business here.

I'm a simple moral person who does not like coordinated trust abuse or confirmed, documented liars.  

Vod complaining about abuse of the trust system is hilarious. The guy is a serial liar and documented abuser of the trust and merit systems. He’s basically as big of a piece of shit as one can possibly be on this forum.

So exposing scammers like you makes me worse than you are?  Try again, bozo.

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You never did tell me who I am coordinating with, myself? Theymos?

lol - you never did ask.

There's no way to have a conversation with you, is there?  Your goal is simply to disrupt business here.

I'm a simple moral person who does not like coordinated trust abuse or confirmed, documented liars.  

Vod complaining about abuse of the trust system is hilarious. The guy is a serial liar and documented abuser of the trust and merit systems. He’s basically as big of a piece of shit as one can possibly be on this forum.

So exposing scammers like you makes me worse than you are?  Try again, bozo.

You literally just quoted me asking...

Of course this is just you mirroring my words in a sad attempt to make this seem as if this is a mutual thing rather than a years long harassment campaign on your part. Funny how you can never provide documentation for these "lies". You are right about one thing though, you are simple. Moral, not in the least.


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You literally just quoted me asking...

Of course this is just you mirroring my words in a sad attempt to make this seem as if this is a mutual thing rather than a years long harassment campaign on your part. Funny how you can never provide documentation for these "lies". You are right about one thing though, you are simple. Moral, not in the least.

Of course you don't find me moral - you have a different definition. 

You just posted the past is irrelevant.  lol  You are the one abusing the trust now, and the community agrees with my feedback.

Your double talk and contradictions must make you go to bed feeling superior to everyone else.

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Your double talk and contradictions must make you go to bed feeling superior to everyone else.

Your word being worthless and your lack of testicles in an empty shriveled nut sack makes you an inferior bitch.

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Your word being worthless and your lack of testicles in an empty shriveled nut sack makes you an inferior bitch.

Your word being worthless and your lack of testicles in an empty shriveled nut sack make me not care what you think.  Smiley

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Just wanted to post here so that people looking to target me can't use it as a "gotcha" moment later as if I don't know my trust inclusions are public and they have exposed some crime I was trying to keep secret. I have removed Kalemder and Vispilio from my inclusions over their support of this flag. I am disappointed after themselves being targeted by these kind of arbitrary flags that they turn right around and do it to others. I am open to changing this later if I see a change in behavior.


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I am open to changing this later if I see a change in behavior.

Yeah, mainly if Kalemder re-adds you (he dropped you on 9/19, surprised it took you so long to reciprocate) and Vispilio gets added to DT1  Cheesy

Those seem to be your basic behavioral criteria.

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I am open to changing this later if I see a change in behavior.

Yeah, mainly if Kalemder re-adds you (he dropped you on 9/19, surprised it took you so long to reciprocate) and Vispilio gets added to DT1  Cheesy

Those seem to be your basic behavioral criteria.

So if I add some one when they are on DT it is only because I want a reciprocal add. If I add some one who isn't on DT and later remove them it was because I plan to add them again later if they get on DT. Me participating in ANY WAY in the trust system is grounds for suspicion according to you and the other clown cartel members regardless of how transparent I am about it or how I justify it. None of the people accusing me of manipulation would themselves pass these levels of scrutiny of their own trust lists full of reciprocal adds and retaliatory exclusions, but of course they are above reproach and don't have to explain themselves as winners of the popularity contest. Everyone knows being popular means you are trustworthy of course.


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Just wanted to post here so that people looking to target me can't use it as a "gotcha" moment later as if I don't know my trust inclusions are public and they have exposed some crime I was trying to keep secret. I have removed Kalemder and Vispilio from my inclusions over their support of this flag. I am disappointed after themselves being targeted by these kind of arbitrary flags that they turn right around and do it to others. I am open to changing this later if I see a change in behavior.

Tecshare what are you doing man, there are hundreds of posts demonstrating the total unreliability of Cryptosparks' business model, it's probably now become the most discussed flag on the forum:

Check here, here and here:

From your general tone I understand you are completely outside the realm of financial services, and yet you seem hell bent on protecting someone whose business propositions have been debunked very convincingly by many members just because you can never seem to palate the possibility that you may be mistaken on any issue whatsoever...

And just like our old buddy Cryptosparks here, you seem to lash out with ad hominems whenever people disagree with you...

My advice to you, the trust system might not be for you because you take every debate regarding it way too personally, relax and move on.

It would do wonders for your psychology if you understand that being wrong every once in a while does not compromise your honor and dignity, it's just part of being human. Good luck.

 
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Just wanted to post here so that people looking to target me can't use it as a "gotcha" moment later as if I don't know my trust inclusions are public and they have exposed some crime I was trying to keep secret. I have removed Kalemder and Vispilio from my inclusions over their support of this flag. I am disappointed after themselves being targeted by these kind of arbitrary flags that they turn right around and do it to others. I am open to changing this later if I see a change in behavior.

Tecshare what are you doing man, there are hundreds of posts demonstrating the total unreliability of Cryptosparks' business model, it's probably now become the most discussed flag on the forum:

Check here, here and here:

From your general tone I understand you are completely outside the realm of financial services, and yet you seem hell bent on protecting someone whose business propositions have been debunked very convincingly by many members just because you can never seem to palate the possibility that you may be mistaken on any issue whatsoever...

And just like our old buddy Cryptosparks here, you seem to lash out with ad hominems whenever people disagree with you...

My advice to you, the trust system might not be for you because you take every debate regarding it way too personally, relax and move on.

It would do wonders for your psychology if you understand that being wrong every once in a while does not compromise your honor and dignity, it's just part of being human. Good luck.

The standard for flags is not some arbitrary subjective determination of "unreliability". I have seen no one present any evidence Cryptosparks is up to anything illicit whatsoever beyond mere suspicion. Just because most people think something doesn't make them correct, and as some one with a financial background I would figure that is critical life experience to have any success in that field. Bitcoin itself was nothing more than a joke to the world for the longest time, and the ones who looked at the facts instead of just its popularity benefited greatly.

Your understanding is incorrect. Not only do I have extensive experience with trading, I know people who make a living explicitly doing what Cryptosparks does, and his claims are not at all unrealistic. Furthermore I have been in every role relating to cryptocurrency managing a project that at one point had a market cap of over $10 million dollars and was the highest returning asset of ANY CLASS globally as far as percent gains for the year of 2014 under my management. So excuse me when I say I probably have more knowledge in this arena than you do.

I don't know Cryptosparks, he is not my buddy, and I have had zero contact with him before this flag issue. You will notice I am not using ad hominems when I am talking to you, but are reserving them for others who have a long history of attempting to "get me" at any opportunity in retaliation for various perceived slights. You really have zero awareness of the relational dynamics of this situation, so please shelve the sanctimonious judgment over my language. I am presenting solid logic based arguments regardless of my inclusion of ad hominems from time to time directed towards people who have more than earned the honor with their own duplicity and slander. Why shouldn't people being judged unfairly tell the people delivering judgements upon them to go fuck themselves? Is that not the beauty of the freedom of working for yourself? Being nice and doing what is popular and upsets the least amount of people is not synonymous with being trustworthy.

I was hoping as some one who has been on the receiving end of these arbitrary accusations you would understand the flaw in judging people based on popular consensus instead of factually observable objective information, but it appears I was wrong, hence my removal of you from my inclusions. From where I sit it seems to me that you and others now feel like you have been accepted into the fold and are just abandoning any principles of fairness and seeking to ingratiate yourself with your former abusers hoping to be included into the default trust cartel. I haven't yet come to a final conclusion as to your own character, but I am not going to support you while you run around perpetrating these arbitrary mob inquisitions on the user base by supporting these arbitrary types of flags in the hopes you get to join the popular kids club.


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