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September 18, 2019, 07:02:42 PM
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~snip~

You're right with your assessment, but you always have that risk in a trust chain. The reason we're going through the effort of sending it from person to person is that we want people to hold this thing in their hands, share it, show it to friends and anyone that's interested. We're not about being the most efficient charity out there, just completely different.

So are you just doing this solely because of marketing or you want to give the donor a firsthand experience on how he can be part of the charity? Either way this is really risky, I haven't even mentioned anything about the risk on how it could have problems with your courier (from delays and damages to theft) and I think eternalgloom is currently experiencing it now with the delay in shipment. At least just make the piggy empty and don't store the wallet's private keys inside of it, it removes the temptation for the donors on stealing it and there is really no point on adding it when already receiving the DigiPiglet is something they need to look forward for.

I want to do both + I want people who never experienced Bitcoin before, to hear about DigiPiglets and get to know how (easy) Bitcoin works. When I showed the DigiPiglet to people and explained how it worked, it was much easier for them to wrap their head around, than when explaining Bitcoin in theory. We can minimize risk if we personally hand it to others. I was hoping the piglet would find a Bitcoin community hub somewhere, where a few people could hand it to each other personally before sending it to a different country.

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September 19, 2019, 04:51:59 AM
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Hello everyone, it seems that my DigiPiglet has arrived;) It actually got in in the morning, while I was out, kid forgot to tell me until just earlier (way early in the morning right now my time).

So I've reached out already to Bengy but I don't think he replied yet (I check my Steemit and don't see). I left comments on his most recent post with my email and bitcointalk.

I'm going to ask around, I actually don't mind even any parts of the world, but yeah I suppose the chain is likelier to continue more quickly where we are (but that's just my assumption).

My thoughts: Mail is quite reliable in my part of the world, domestically. I use post a lot all over the world and standards aren't so great nor consistent, so you never know. With packages generally, they do arrive (in my experience). I've had lost letters, postcards, never packages.

P.S. Pics later;)

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September 19, 2019, 08:12:28 AM
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That's absolutely fantastic news!
I was getting a bit worried, but I guess the post system is just a bit slow Tongue

Also included some DigiPiglet stickers, as you can see. You can always send the rest of them along with the piggy, it's not that they add any costs to the package Smiley

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September 19, 2019, 08:19:21 AM
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Yaayyy  Cheesy Cheesy

Can't wait to see the pics Smiley

Let's establish that we use tracking/insurance if we send it overseas. Domestic mail usually is fairly reliable, but we should not take the risk if we are sending it far away.

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September 19, 2019, 09:41:54 AM
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Update: Bengy responded (thanks eternal for helping sort that out!), and it turns out we're in the same city after all (fancy a Steemian and a Bitcointalker ending up there).

I'll leave the stickers, and add a small piece of artwork that will be done by a very young Bitcoiner (I have sadly neglected updating a post here where you can see her art). Just a little something to add on to the chain, without making the package (that much) heavier!

So the handover will be done tentatively Tuesday =)


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September 19, 2019, 10:29:51 AM
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That's really amazing! If possible, take a couple of pictures during the meetup, if you're comfortable showing your face online.
I know Bengy has already posted a couple of pictures of himself on Steemit, so that shouldn't be a problem.

I'll ask him to write a Steemit post about this as well Wink Really great to hear that this is coming along nicely!!

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September 19, 2019, 10:44:03 AM
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Update: Bengy responded (thanks eternal for helping sort that out!), and it turns out we're in the same city after all (fancy a Steemian and a Bitcointalker ending up there).

I'll leave the stickers, and add a small piece of artwork that will be done by a very young Bitcoiner (I have sadly neglected updating a post here where you can see her art). Just a little something to add on to the chain, without making the package (that much) heavier!

So the handover will be done tentatively Tuesday =)



That's a funny coincidence and really convenient Smiley Love the idea with the artwork.

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September 20, 2019, 01:49:59 PM
Last edit: November 16, 2023, 09:51:17 PM by buwaytress
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Sorry this took so bloody long, but I'm rather inefficient with photos and things. I will update here also to show when I manage to print the drawing I will also include when sending to the next person (Bengy)!

Hopefully, we can get a few more interested parties to line up. Happy Friday everyone!

P.S. If it counts for anything. I like the workmanship and feel of this piglet. Matte finish, and looks squeaky as new, I will not test its robustness;) it is safely back in the box:)!

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September 22, 2019, 02:22:15 PM
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@buwaytress

Thanks for adding that picture, I'm very glad to see everything made it there safely of course!
I hope we'll see some pictures of the exchange too Wink Maybe Bengy will post about it on Steemit as well.

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September 22, 2019, 02:54:58 PM
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The piglet is hollow, the only copy of the private key is inside the piglet. To reach it, you'd have to cut it open


Would love to see a digital version of this passed around Bitcointalk.

Have you ever thought about?

Seems like it could be passed around much more efficiently, particularly since a lot of people who actually use Bitcointalk don't know a huge number of bitcoin users IRL.

I would definitely be interested in participating.
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September 22, 2019, 04:19:37 PM
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The piglet is hollow, the only copy of the private key is inside the piglet. To reach it, you'd have to cut it open


Would love to see a digital version of this passed around Bitcointalk.

Have you ever thought about?

Seems like it could be passed around much more efficiently, particularly since a lot of people who actually use Bitcointalk don't know a huge number of bitcoin users IRL.

I would definitely be interested in participating.


The digital equivalent of this has been done already, with the lightning torch.
The whole shtick of this initiative is the physical aspect, of handing the DigiPiglet over to other people and trusting them.

Now, people can always just donate Bitcoin into the DigiPiglet without participating.
Here's the Piggy's Bitcoin address:

1NETDSdHh6Zoot4BohbWP1ZqCapPvHFih9

(The public address is also mentioned in the OP, so I'm not trying to scam anyone here Tongue)

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September 23, 2019, 12:46:21 PM
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How about after we finish the physical trust chain, we initiate a digital one? Maybe with some digital collectibles?

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September 23, 2019, 02:39:52 PM
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How about after we finish the physical trust chain, we initiate a digital one? Maybe with some digital collectibles?

Why not run both in parallel? You could create a simple ERC721 token that can be passed from person to person.

Reach out to crypto-collectible games like cryptokitties and others to see if you can make the token have some special functionality in their games.

Every time the collectible gets passed around it should gain in value, then you can sell the ERC721 token to a final bidder, and release the gathered funds to charity for a double whammy donation.
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September 24, 2019, 04:01:46 PM
Last edit: November 16, 2023, 09:51:03 PM by buwaytress
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 #34

And the Piglet hath moved along the trust chain. Strangely, we both thought hey, it's ok for our pics to go online. Very unusual, but there we go;)



So here we are, with Piglet, stickers and the piece of art (comic strip) I included. Maybe Bengy has better pics on his phone?

And in case you can't read the comic strip (I do realise it's macabre but hey artist impression, right?), the image itself is here:




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September 26, 2019, 10:48:48 AM
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Do we already have our next location ? Smiley

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September 27, 2019, 06:07:59 AM
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Do we already have our next location ? Smiley

I believe Bengy will now get in touch with one of the others in eternal's earlier list. I am also trying to source (feel like there's a better word haha) another person in the UK to get along with this chain but no response yet. I have quite a few secondary options but probably want this to happen a bit more naturally first before I resort to getting people convinced =D

P.S. We were both surprised by the weight! For some reason thought it'd be heavier.

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September 27, 2019, 08:30:36 AM
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Do we already have our next location ? Smiley

I believe Bengy will now get in touch with one of the others in eternal's earlier list. I am also trying to source (feel like there's a better word haha) another person in the UK to get along with this chain but no response yet. I have quite a few secondary options but probably want this to happen a bit more naturally first before I resort to getting people convinced =D

P.S. We were both surprised by the weight! For some reason thought it'd be heavier.

Already over 20€ yay  Cheesy

The mass produced versions will come out a little heavier and firmer. The prototype was glued together by hand, therefore, it's not as robust as the final model. So if anybody receives the piglet with a dent or some other flaw, don't worry Grin

Please make sure to have anyone who participates share the story and a picture somewhere online. If someone doesn't feel comfortable to show themself on the picture, just shoot a picture like the first one in the original post.


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October 07, 2019, 09:42:58 AM
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Hi all, any more news with the little fella?
Just watching with interest to see how far and wide it can get  Smiley
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October 08, 2019, 10:51:21 AM
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Hi all, any more news with the little fella?
Just watching with interest to see how far and wide it can get  Smiley

Looking forward to hear some news as well Smiley Did bengy already send it to the next recipient ? Is anyone in contact with him ?

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October 08, 2019, 06:55:52 PM
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Hi all, any more news with the little fella?
Just watching with interest to see how far and wide it can get  Smiley

Hey Mbitr,

Sorry, I'm a complete Bitcointalk noob... I'm trying to send you a PM, but your account doesn't allow noobs to PM you!

Can you send me a PM, so we can sort out getting the Piggy to you?

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