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September 11, 2019, 07:02:01 PM
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I think reporting posts within the last 36 hours could still be worth it as those posts can potentially affect the bump score.
Almost all of those shit posts on tokens threads are made by users that have not earned any merit in the last year and their bump power is exactly zero.
But generally you are right. Any one spams should be reported. No difference it affects bumping or not.

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September 11, 2019, 07:06:02 PM
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With that its more shity to find the Fake ANNs and the Malware posting idiots !

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Bad move with that in my opinion  !

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September 11, 2019, 07:16:23 PM
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This thread was last posted in 2015: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740159.0


How and why is at the top of the list in-between recently posted threads: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0


How does the new system make that even possible?


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September 11, 2019, 07:17:14 PM
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With that its more shity to find the Fake ANNs and the Malware posting idiots !

Lafu the following link displays announcement threads that are posted last. You can easily find and report them.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159;sort=first_post;desc

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September 11, 2019, 07:20:02 PM
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With that its more shity to find the Fake ANNs and the Malware posting idiots !

Lafu the following link displays announcement threads that are posted last. You can easily find and report them.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159;sort=first_post;desc

sort=first_post;desc works for every other board/section

Thanks for that ! looks good !

But why make it easy when it goes difficult lol !

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September 11, 2019, 07:25:24 PM
Last edit: September 11, 2019, 07:58:29 PM by hosseinimr93
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This thread was last posted in 2015: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740159.0
How and why is at the top of the list in-between recently posted threads: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0
How does the new system make that even possible?
Some one has bumped it . There are two kinds of bumps. 1. Mini bump 2. Super bump
For mini bump you must make posts.
For super bump you only need to click on "Bump" button.
A high-merit user has likely clicked on the button. ( Maybe more than 1 user)
As the bump power decreases by time and becomes zero after 36 hours, such topics cannot remain on the top.
Some one has misused the bumping points or some one has tested it.

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September 11, 2019, 07:31:12 PM
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And speaking of power, is it something wrong with my internet (I'm on 2g near a mountain top  Grin) or the topic bumped my marlboroza is still the second one on that page and the one he "mini bumped if I understand the term correctly is 4th?
I am trying to find this but I failed.  Embarrassed

What is mini bump and what it does? And how?

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What is mini bump and what it does? And how?

As theymos describes it, it's simply posting in the thread.  You don't reduce any of your bumping power by posting in a thread, but if it's the first time you've posted in that thread in the last 7 days 1% of your bumping power is directed towards the thread's bump score.

Mini bumps

If you haven't posted in a topic in the last 7 days, posting in it adds 1% of your base bump power to the topic's bump score. Deleted posts count against the 7-day limit, but not the topic's bump score.

Super bumps

Once per 24 hours, you can click a topic's bump link. When you do this, a modified bump power is calculated as your base bump power minus 15% for every super bump you've done in the last 30 days, and this is added to the topic's bump score. In other words, your modified bump power is base_power*0.85super_bumps_last_30_days.
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September 11, 2019, 07:48:23 PM
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With that its more shity to find the Fake ANNs and the Malware posting idiots !

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Bad move with that in my opinion  !

But, less exposure for them to the majority of the forum which is even better. You know the saying "prevention is the best cure"? I think that applies here, even if I don't tend to agree with it in theory its correct. Not many users will see those that are posting the fake announcements, and malware which should reduce their effectiveness against those that are unaware. Those that are aware report it, and it gets dealt with.

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September 11, 2019, 07:57:06 PM
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With that its more shity to find the Fake ANNs and the Malware posting idiots !

Look at the bright side, If it's hard for you it means also is hard to find for normal users that might fall for it, so fewer scams will happen BEFORE the topic will be discovered by either you or the mods and nuked.

How does the new system make that even possible?
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What hosseinimr93 didn't mention it's the obvious conclusion that a superbump from marlboroza has more power in a super bump than all the users that posted (mini bumped) in any topic today.  Roll Eyes



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Look at the bright side, If it's hard for you it means also is hard to find for normal users that might fall for it, so fewer scams will happen BEFORE the topic will be discovered by either you or the mods and nuked.

For sure it has some good things if there are some pump bots !

But whats better ?

Not seeing or find the Threads from the Idiots that make that Fake ANNs with Malware and trojan downloads and its possible they dont get tracked down ?

Or just see them easy on the first page and take action before someone fall into the trap ?

I guess i missed a few maybe already in the last weeks and month and maybe there are already some still alive !

Just saying its harder now to catch them and to find them and everytime to add in the adress " sort=first_post;desc " after switch between threads or search them is a bit crazy!

Anyway its just my opinion and as long its more positive for the Forum its good ! 

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September 11, 2019, 08:28:21 PM
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Can the bump score change (aside from decay) after the bump event occurs?

For example, a zero-merit user posts in a thread and later gets a merit. Does the thread gain any bump score from that or not?

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September 11, 2019, 09:22:07 PM
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Can we implement a deactivate button for the mini bump? For example I dont want to bump this thread when I post a comment if I'm able to deactivate my bumping feature and post as a newbie it would be perfect.
It can be restricted to one nonbumping post per 24 hours or something.

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September 11, 2019, 09:27:23 PM
Last edit: September 11, 2019, 09:38:26 PM by marlboroza
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What is mini bump and what it does? And how?

As theymos describes it, it's simply posting in the thread.  You don't reduce any of your bumping power by posting in a thread, but if it's the first time you've posted in that thread in the last 7 days 1% of your bumping power is directed towards the thread's bump score.

Mini bumps

If you haven't posted in a topic in the last 7 days, posting in it adds 1% of your base bump power to the topic's bump score. Deleted posts count against the 7-day limit, but not the topic's bump score.
Mkaay...

Lets see if I get this right.

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Your base bump power is the smaller of these two values:
 - The activity you would have if you'd signed up 1 year ago.
 - The merit you've earned in the last year.
Lets say my bump power is 1000. My super bump increased thread's bump score by 100X and it went to top of page #1.

So, my bump power went down by 15% and it is now 850, but, if I post something in thread, that thread will get 1% of my based bump power or score 10.

If I bump several threads within 30 days my bump power will go to 0, but I will still "give" 10 points to bump score for 1 post in thread every 7 days.

What will this 10 points do? If 10 accounts give 10 points, will thread go to top if all other threads have score bellow 100, or?

edit: ok, I tested it and old thread went to page number #1, thread #24. Second bump did nothing, unfortunately, I can't remove bumps duo "rules about deleting posts in altcoin".

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September 11, 2019, 09:36:00 PM
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This thread was last posted in 2015: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740159.0
How and why is at the top of the list in-between recently posted threads: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0
How does the new system make that even possible?
Some one has bumped it . There are two kinds of bumps. 1. Mini bump 2. Super bump
For mini bump you must make posts.
For super bump you only need to click on "Bump" button.
A high-merit user has likely clicked on the button. ( Maybe more than 1 user)
As the bump power decreases by time and becomes zero after 36 hours, such topics cannot remain on the top.
Some one has misused the bumping points or some one has tested it.


Thank you for the explanation. I still need clarification on something please, if I may....

From what I can see the way this is set-up is open to a different type of abuse, a kind of out of the frying pan and in to the fire type of situation because the bump-power can be purchased as well as mini-bumping still going on directly from posting.

This new strategy does not exactly fill me with confidence - unless I am missing something from the OP


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September 11, 2019, 09:37:50 PM
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Lets say my bump power is 1000. My super bump increased thread's bump score by 100X and it went to top of page #1.

Max power is 364 or so (limited by max activity in a year).

So, my bump power went down by 15% and it is now 850, but, if I post something in thread, that thread will get 1% of my based bump power or score 10.

If I bump several threads within 30 days my bump power will go to 0, but I will still "give" 10 points to bump score for 1 post in thread every 7 days.

It will not go down to zero. It's reduced by 15% from the previous value, not by 15% from the original value, so something like this: 100% -> 85% -> 72% etc.

What will this 10 points do? If 10 accounts give 10 points, will thread go to top if all other threads have score bellow 100, or?

Those mini-bump points are exactly the same as the super-bump points so yes.

From what I can see the way this is set-up is open to a different type of abuse, a kind of out of the frying pan and in to the fire type of situation because the bump-power can be purchased as well as mini-bumping still going on directly from posting.

This new strategy does not exactly fill me with confidence - unless I am missing something from the OP

Only users who earned merits in the last year can bump and their bump power is proportional to the amount of earned merits and it's not unlimited. That's a HUGE difference from what we had before when any newbie could bump by posting any nonsense any number of times.

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September 11, 2019, 10:03:56 PM
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Max power is 364 or so (limited by max activity in a year).
Oh, yes, I looked whole activity and rounded it to 1000.
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It will not go down to zero. It's reduced by 15% from the previous value, not by 15% from the original value, so something like this: 100% -> 85% -> 72% etc.
That is base power minus 15% and then modified power minus 15%. This confused me a little:
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Once per 24 hours, you can click a topic's bump link. When you do this, a modified bump power is calculated as your base bump power minus 15% for every super bump you've done in the last 30 days, and this is added to the topic's bump score. In other words, your modified bump power is base_power*0.85super_bumps_last_30_days.

I have to see this in combination with morvillz7z's post (@mod I promise I will delete posts).

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September 11, 2019, 10:07:08 PM
Last edit: September 12, 2019, 12:31:59 AM by dkbit98
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He he great news Smiley
Thanks @theymos

I saw few of that BUMP tabs before I read this Topic,
but I was not sure what that is.

Let's see how it works in real life forum situations

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Would be nice to see dump option also  Wink


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I think that Service Announcements (Altcoins) should also be added
and Bounties (Altcoins)

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September 11, 2019, 10:16:14 PM
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This confused me a little:

It's reduced by 15%

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for every super bump you've done in the last 30 days

i.e. the 0.85 multiplier is raised to the power of super_bumps_last_30_days. So if you've done 3 super-bumps your fourth super-bump will be 0.85*0.85*0.85 strong or about 61%.

I've bumped a few threads in a row and each subsequent one is definitely getting a lower score, so it appears to work as described as far as I can tell without seeing the actual numbers.

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