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September 14, 2019, 09:50:14 AM
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Hello,
i'm the manager of Arakne Quant Shop

You can find all info,data,stats,trade history, and API access to live demo account on the thread.


We are looking for liquidity providers to partner with in several ways:


1. Lender as service provider:

Lend us UP to 5BTC with 10% monthly payback + 5% monthly interest.
We can give API access + EMAIL +PASSWORD of the trading account managing the funds as collateral so you can always keep an eye on the funds.
This results in almost 30% risk free profit for the lender. 2 year of data shows the bot can easily handle the interest rate, please download and check for yourself.[/s]

2. Arakne as service provider:
Create and control your own account and let our bot manage it via API KEY enabled only for order creation. Pay us 30% of monthly net profit for the service and keep the 70% as pure profits.

3. Miscellaneous:
We can arrange a custom deal where the lender lowers the interest rates in exchange of fixed % of monthly generated profits.


I think that all of these options offer a nice balance between risk/profit for both parties.

REPUTABLE LENDERS ONLY

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September 14, 2019, 09:54:18 AM
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REPUTABLE LENDERS ONLY

Lenders are at the risk here so I do not think it's matter much.

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September 14, 2019, 10:03:47 AM
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REPUTABLE LENDERS ONLY

Lenders are at the risk here so I do not think it's matter much.
Lenders keep control of their funds via API KEY. Basically is RISK FREE , they could run away with all profits eventually. That's why it matters.
The only reasons why we offer this is because if they eventually "steal" the funds they basically steal their own and we lose only the generated profits.
At that point we hope people is smart enough to realize that they only hurt themselves, ruining their reputation and interrupting their risk free passive income

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September 14, 2019, 12:18:13 PM
Last edit: September 14, 2019, 12:31:27 PM by DireWolfM14
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Lenders keep control of their funds via API KEY. Basically is RISK FREE , they could run away with all profits eventually.

That's not "control," and is completely false and misleading.  An API key is not the same thing as a private key.  If my funds are locked in your service with the only access I have being an API key, that means that I have no control.  The API key, or the service as a whole could be disabled by you at any time, and I don't see anything that  guarantees you won't do just that once the funds are deposited.

Not to mention that your service smells like a ponzi scam to begin with.

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September 14, 2019, 01:19:37 PM
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Lenders keep control of their funds via API KEY. Basically is RISK FREE , they could run away with all profits eventually.

That's not "control," and is completely false and misleading.  An API key is not the same thing as a private key.  If my funds are locked in your service with the only access I have being an API key, that means that I have no control.  The API key, or the service as a whole could be disabled by you at any time, and I don't see anything that  guarantees you won't do just that once the funds are deposited.

Not to mention that your service smells like a ponzi scam to begin with.


I'd start by saying that you have no idea what a quant shop is if you see any ponzi element in our business.

Secondly, an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key because it can be enabled for withdraw. Furthermore, on option 1 both lander and us have direct access to the account(mean password and email + api key).

As a quick recap, option 1 gives control to funds both to us and the lender, while option 2 gives control to funds only to the lender. In both options, the parties are incentivized to fulfill the deal.


Lastly, i would advise anyone that has no common knowledge in the space, to avoid posting stupid silly accusations because you can notice from my post history how much i like roasting ignorant people when they accuse me of scamming. But the ponzi part is new  Grin


FUNNY how even giving loans while still accessing the funds and earning 5% monthly interest in "Mafia Style" is still a risk for the lender and i'd be a ponzi scammer.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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September 14, 2019, 01:55:40 PM
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Secondly, an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key

Stop talking nonsense. It depends on trusting your service, it's nothing like e.g. a Bitcoin private key. If you keep insisting on it you'll likely earn red trust - people tend to care about that shit on this forum.
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September 14, 2019, 02:18:18 PM
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Secondly, an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key

Stop talking nonsense. It depends on trusting your service, it's nothing like e.g. a Bitcoin private key. If you keep insisting on it you'll likely earn red trust - people tend to care about that shit on this forum.

Did i say is a private key or did i say it can act as private key? Didn't i say that besides the key it's given access to email and password?

Can you use a private key to control funds on a wallet? YES
Can you use a api key to control funds on an exchange wallet? YES
Can an api key act as a private key? YES
Is an api key different than a private key? YES
Did i say an api key is the same as a private key ? NO

Should you focus on the thread proposition instead of pointing out something i didn't say ? definitely




Should you focus on the thread proposition instead of pointing out something i didn't say ? definitely

Are you able to run off with funds?  YES but only on option 1, same as the lender can run off or lock us out of the account.
Should we all point out that you're able run off with the funds?  YES but only on option 1, same as the lender can run off or lock us out of the account.
Will having an API key to your service prevent you from running off the funds?  NO on option 1. YES on option 2.
If you plan on running off with the funds would you tell us?  Definitely not, but at what point? Both parties are incentivized in fulfill the deal.

Replies in BOLD.

I don't think it's hard to understand that option 1 requires a bit of trust, both from us and from the lender. While option 2 requires no trust since is impossible to run away with funds for us( but the client can). All risks are mitigated by the fact that both parties are incentivized to respect the deal.

So option 1 we take the risk of the lending and both us and the lender take the risk of gettin scammed.
The risk associated with option 2 is only for us, which is that the lender leaves without paying the commission.

if Math is not an opinion we have both the product and the risk in both options.

Bring it on, smarty pants.  I'm not claiming to be a technical wizard, but I know bullshit when I see it.

You should move that mirror out of the way then  Grin Maybe you will start noticing the opportunity i'm presenting.
You don't think im legit? prove it. go to my thread, download the data, access the demo account via the provided api key and PROVE I'M HERE TO SCAM YOUR BITCOIN.

If you can't or simply not interested, just avoid posting. I'm not forcing anyone. Smart people will catch the opportunity in one of the several shapes


As for myself, more than building a thread with all kind of evidence and having a product that is killing it, there's not much more i can do other than replying to every single non-funded accusation. We are even fine in letting the lender have access to non only the loan but also to the profits generated by it. That's the level of confidence a great product can give. We have no problems even if they run away with the profits without the commission. We are trying to scale and smart people always pay the fee because they don't want the game to stop.


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I have been using OP his trading bot service for one month now. He is legit and running a serious trading bot which he coded. He is not here to scam, I have put my funds ‘at risk’ too, even though it is not really risky since u give him an API key which is not allowed to withdraw. I fully trust the OP and can vouch for his legit way of providing this service.

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September 14, 2019, 06:38:40 PM
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Anyway OP, I think you lost your ground here. The thread is now useless and I do not think anyone will genuinely show any interest to your offer. Time to move on.

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September 14, 2019, 06:53:23 PM
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Anyway OP, I think you lost your ground here. The thread is now useless and I do not think anyone will genuinely show any interest to your offer. Time to move on.
I think is the opposite, the thread is better than my original naked post since every of the accusation points got debunked. Now go and mind your business, we have no interest in working with people like you. The thread will stay and i will keep replying and upping if needed.

I have been using OP his trading bot service for one month now. He is legit and running a serious trading bot which he coded. He is not here to scam, I have put my funds ‘at risk’ too, even though it is not really risky since u give him an API key which is not allowed to withdraw. I fully trust the OP and can vouch for his legit way of providing this service.

Thanks for the support mate, appreciated!


You should move that mirror out of the way then

Really?  Is that the "roasting" I was promised?  You're gonna have to do better than that, son.

But while I have your attention, riddle me this:  Why is a quantitative trading programmer begging for money here in the bitcointalk lending board?  The ones I know started earning $125k right out of college, with no real-world experience.  The good ones can earn half a million or more with bonuses.  Something isn't adding up.

And by the way; a vouch from your scammy alt isn't helping your case.  Just an FYI.


That's the starting punch mate, are you still on the ground for shifting the attack on my personal life choices? Do you want my background? i've always been an indie game developer, and as a indie life is hard, especially marketing. Maybe your friends want to work for a boss, i don't. I always wanted to build something truly mine, and that road is harder. Where do you see i'm begging for money?  I'm offering 5BTC investment opportunity to small liquidity providers. I'm trying to scale a business and make beneficial partnerships, i'm contacting small hedge funds and all kind of small liquidity providers. This is why this thread exists. You guys have seen so many scams that can't even recognize a valid proposal. Instead of shitting nonsense on my job and life, a smart person would have catched that there's a profitable opportunity with all evidences in place and would have TESTED it.

Also, do you think if i had a Legendary account i would be using my member account?  Grin Grin Do you have an idea how many times i got tagged as scammer simply because i'm only a member? i'm not gonna waste more time trying to get merit while i can code and actually build something.

It's not even funny anymore to debunk your accusations if they are so cheap

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You should move that mirror out of the way then

Really?  Is that the "roasting" I was promised?  You're gonna have to do better than that, son.

While I have your attention, riddle me this:  Why is a quantitative trading programmer begging for money here in the bitcointalk lending board?  The ones I know started earning $125k right out of college, with no real-world experience.  The good ones can earn half a million or more with bonuses.  Something isn't adding up.

And by the way; a vouch from your scammy alt isn't helping your case.  Just an FYI.

False accusation here.

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You should move that mirror out of the way then

Really?  Is that the "roasting" I was promised?  You're gonna have to do better than that, son.

While I have your attention, riddle me this:  Why is a quantitative trading programmer begging for money here in the bitcointalk lending board?  The ones I know started earning $125k right out of college, with no real-world experience.  The good ones can earn half a million or more with bonuses.  Something isn't adding up.

And by the way; a vouch from your scammy alt isn't helping your case.  Just an FYI.

False accusation here.

Yes looks like someone is throwing the stone and hiding the hand. He deleted most of his posts. Thanks DireWolfM14, have been a pleasure. I add you to my roasted list, but remember that what happens on the internet stays on the internet. I'm collapsing my replies in a single post so he can't do anything to delete them reporting to a moderator as non-legit ups! There are so many little tricks going on this forum....

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You should move that mirror out of the way then

Really?  Is that the "roasting" I was promised?  You're gonna have to do better than that, son.

While I have your attention, riddle me this:  Why is a quantitative trading programmer begging for money here in the bitcointalk lending board?  The ones I know started earning $125k right out of college, with no real-world experience.  The good ones can earn half a million or more with bonuses.  Something isn't adding up.

And by the way; a vouch from your scammy alt isn't helping your case.  Just an FYI.

False accusation here.

Yes looks like someone is throwing the stone and hiding the hand. He deleted most of his posts. Thanks DireWolfM14, have been a pleasure. I add you to my roasted list, but remember that what happens on the internet stays on the internet. I'm collapsing my replies in a single post so he can't do anything to delete them reporting to a moderator as non-legit ups! There are so many little tricks going on this forum....
I genuinely think it is unfair for the DT people to give u red trust. For what it is worth here are my results of using the Arakne Bot since 2 september 2019.



Edit: I was also very skeptical about this invetsment at first. Now I have daily contact with this user and I trust him with managing my funds on Bitmex. Also he has only API key for trading, not for WITHDRAW.

I think calling this user a PONZI owner is very strange because the funds never are fully in his control or away from bitmex. Anyway there is never a guarantee of profit, but is based on future predictions which have been turning out quite well. I have 100% winrate as of now with his trading algo.

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@OP The issue here is that you are asking an investment in the loan section.

No matter how solid is your business plan, the only way to get a loan here (except the cases based on trust) is to provide collateral. You would be better off posting this in investments or servicess.

I don't think you are trying to scam anyone, so this is a friendly advice.

Good luck with your business.
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Check previous posts of the OP.   Chances are, it's just a teenager - no real intelligence in the posts.  :/

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Check previous posts of the OP.   Chances are, it's just a teenager - no real intelligence in the posts.  :/

The funny thing is that you exposed yourself in here.

And you can see how already some of our clients are showing up their balances.  Shocked Grin

1 image talks more than all your stupid accusations. Get over it



It's your fault. If you actually read the thread on merits, then you should know for sure that merit is to be earned, and not to be asked(or begged). Also, in retaliation, you also sent him negative trust? 🤔 How is he a scammer?



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November 26, 2019, 10:43:18 AM
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DO NOT LEND..

this user is a pasta fucking idiot, please check his trust feedback and his post history, you will likely lose funds if dealing with this loser

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November 26, 2019, 11:23:15 AM
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DO NOT LEND..

this user is a pasta fucking idiot, please check his trust feedback and his post history, you will likely lose funds if dealing with this loser

TKID, now we know you're also racist! Congrats.

Also we don't take loans and never had the intention to do so.
The option 1 proposed in this thread was simply marketing, to evidence how better the option of using Arakne as service provide directly was for the lenders.
Let's also add that on option 1 we could have get scammed.

Even though it costed me a lot of fights about API KEYS and negative trust, it worked pretty well  Grin

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Also we don't take loans and never had the intention to do so.

you would of taken a loan you lying pizza eating penis, you were not offered any loans as 1) you are a cunt 2) you lie 3) you are a cunt.

Even the above "never had the intention to" really? what type of idiot do you think the average forum senior is?

maybe go hit up the local pizza place and ask for a job, work hard, save up - then have an actual bankroll instead of trying to skim 30% off others whilst lying about API keys being the same as bitcoin private keys

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November 26, 2019, 01:31:33 PM
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Also we don't take loans and never had the intention to do so.

Pretty sure this is your thread on the Lending board and its title starts with "Lending request..."

Of course it wouldn't be the first time you're lying.
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