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September 15, 2019, 08:49:07 AM
Last edit: September 22, 2019, 05:48:03 PM by CryptoSparks
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Hello,
as always i keep roasting ignorant people accusing me of scamming, and as always after losing the argumentations they either
- delete the posts  
- start a persecution battle spamming on my thread and reporting every message
- leave very stupid and non-fundend negative feedbacks (A guy that i never even talked with , from all the lending situation understood that i run a ponzi with 5% interest rate . Really Vod? Grin Grin


Now i want to say it once and for all, you silly jealous little spineless people, keep trying to stop my business. this is your life, when others build and succeed you feel bad with yourself and try to destroy it because you are NOTHING ELSE THAN A RANK ON A FORUM. I don't care a bit of redtrust. i have all kind of evidence that everyone can access to see i'm legit. I don't care if i'm only a member, and i don't care if you refuse to understand my explanations.


you disgust me.

Also notice how all the roasted users are high rank, most of them legendary. that is not a case. most high rank members are closed in their imaginary cocky fortress where they think they are always right simply because of the rank. NOPE. Grow some balls, and when you understand to have made a mistake, apology instead of acting as a spineless kid






CLOSURE:
The real nature of this thread was double faced. I knew that posting on meta would have been a perfect trap to demonstrate the EXTREME SUPERFICIALITY AND LACK OF KNOWLEDGE of some legendary members.
In 24 hours 4 Legendary member and 1 Hero member felt for the trap.

If you want to have a couple laughs, go ahead and read the whole thread.  Grin

But long story short, our business model is bulletproof so i knew any scam accusation would have failed, simply because we can't access the clients funds since they control their own private account while the bot is able to trade via Public API Key with only trading privileges (more on this here)

Even though all info were right there under their nose, none of them bother to check it in order to be able to understand the business model or key definitions.
I've quoted every of their comment so that they are printed in stone, trolls love deleting stuff.




suchmoon was superficial as for own admission and doesn't know what API KEY are
Vod total 0 understanding of the business model
AdolfinWolf huge lack of knowledge, especially in markets. Market are above govs , and bots rule the markets! Yet the guy thinks that one of the biggest industries of the world is just scam and is impossible to make any money from trading!  Grin
DireWolfM14 big lack of knowledge + total 0 understanding of the business model. i really don't  know where you got all that stuff out  Grin
nutildah  total 0 understanding of the business model. The guy never even commented, didn't read anything but felt the need to pop a random idiot negative feedback.

Hopefully this will make some of you big guys think the way you behave and exploit your rank.

Having a high rank doesn't automatically give you the infinite knowledge that your arrogant behaviors would require


One of the positive consequences of this experiment is that a new useful guide born thanks to it:

[FULL GUIDE] API KEY - WHAT is it , WHY you need it and HOW to create one



ALSO


While in here they attack Arakne by saying how impossible is to make money with a market maker bot , they DREAM of doing the same exact thing.


Pathetic  Grin Grin

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The Bitcointalk Forum has clear rules for the game: Topic: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ, If you play by the rules you will be safe from the accusations that you are experiencing at this time.

Obviously you do everything:trust:

Nobody's business forbids you from doing that, but if you do: 1. Running a ponzi. 5% interest per month.
2. Insists that an API key "can act as a private key". Scammy word games.

this error, obviously violating the rules of the game in this forum.

You are not flagged if you do not violate existing rules.

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September 15, 2019, 09:40:24 AM
Last edit: September 15, 2019, 09:55:41 AM by CryptoSparks
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The Bitcointalk Forum has clear rules for the game: Topic: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ, If you play by the rules you will be safe from the accusations that you are experiencing at this time.

Obviously you do everything: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1705958

Nobody's business forbids you from doing that, but if you do: 1. Running a ponzi. 5% interest per month.
2. Insists that an API key "can act as a private key". Scammy word games.

this error, obviously violating the rules of the game in this forum.

You are not flagged if you do not violate existing rules.

Have you accessed the links i posted? I didn't break any rules.

I run a fully documented and legit trading service and both those feedback are from today by spineless people.

1. Running a ponzi. 5% interest per month. This is the funniest. Here the link. How dumb a person can be to understand from a "lending-partnership request" with 5% interest rate that WE PAY that i'm running a ponzi with 5% interest? Either he didn't even read the starting post and rushed to leave negative feedback or, most likely, one of his roasted friend made him do that.
2. Insists that an API key "can act as a private key". Scammy word games. This guy instead just can't accept that an API KEY can act as a private key. I said several times that those are different and that the lender would have had full access to email and password. yet he leaves red trust.


Are you living in a fantasy world where if you don't do anything wrong you won't get in any trouble? If you have time check the links i posted and see for yourself.


Since they can't attack my business directly anymore, since i have 2years of stats,trade history and direct access to demo account with 100% win rate this month, they play these pathetic games  Roll Eyes

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Are you living in a fantasy world where if you don't do anything wrong you won't get in any trouble? If you have time check the links i posted and see for yourself.


Since they can't attack my business directly anymore, since i have 2years of stats,trade history and direct access to demo account with 100% win rate this month, they play these silly games  Roll Eyes
Seems like you're living in a fantasy world: namely that of the land of the blind, where you're the one eyed man. Or so you think at least.

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This guy instead just can't accept that an API KEY can act as a private key.
You're on a *cryptographic forum*, did you really think you could get away with spewing such obvious bullshit, and not get called out on it? We're not all 12 anymore.

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I run a fully documented and legit trading service and both those feedback are from today by spineless people.

1. Running a ponzi. 5% interest per month. This is the funniest. Here the link. How dumb a person can be to understand from a "lending-partnership request" with 5% interest rate that WE PAY that i'm running a ponzi with 5% interest? Either he didn't even read the starting post and rushed to leave negative feedback or, most likely, one of his roasted friend made him do that.
Take a minute to reflect on your words, and then ask yourself if you yourself really believe what you just jot down.

Please go back to the kiddo forum you came from, and promote your ponzi/hyip trash there. You won't be missed here.

Cya.

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Last edit: September 15, 2019, 10:17:42 AM by CryptoSparks
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Have you accessed the links i posted? I didn't break any rules.

I run a fully documented and legit trading service and both those feedback are from today by spineless people.

1. Running a ponzi. 5% interest per month. This is the funniest. Here the link. How dumb a person can be to understand from a "lending-partnership request" with 5% interest rate that WE PAY that i'm running a ponzi with 5% interest? Either he didn't even read the starting post and rushed to leave negative feedback or, most likely, one of his roasted friend made him do that.
2. Insists that an API key "can act as a private key". Scammy word games. This guy instead just can't accept that an API KEY can act as a private key. I said several times that those are different and that the lender would have had full access to email and password. yet he leaves red trust.


Are you living in a fantasy world where if you don't do anything wrong you won't get in any trouble? If you have time check the links i posted and see for yourself.


Since they can't attack my business directly anymore, since i have 2years of stats,trade history and direct access to demo account with 100% win rate this month, they play these silly games  Roll Eyes
Seems like you're living in a fantasy world: namely that of the land of the blind, where you're the one eyed man. Or so you think at least.

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This guy instead just can't accept that an API KEY can act as a private key.
You're on a *cryptographic forum*, did you really think you could get away with spewing such obvious bullshit?
Please go back to the kiddo forum you came from, and promote your ponzi/hyip trash there. You won't be missed here.

Cya.

Here's another Legendary yelling from his cocky castle. Prove me that an api key+email+pass can't act as private key and i will leave.

Meanwhile, i post the same reply:

Can you use a private key to control funds on a wallet? YES
Can you use a api key to control funds on an exchange wallet? YES
Can an api key act as a private key? YES
Is an api key different than a private key? YES
Did i say an api key is the same as a private key ? NO

Please go back to the kiddo forum you came from, and promote your ponzi/hyip trash there. You won't be missed here.
My existence doesn't rely on forums like yours. Btw shouldn't you be spamming your signature on the forum instead of fighting on definitions with who codes from 14 yo

Furthermore the whole definition was and is not relevant to the subject. just a dumb excuse. Having access to EMAIL+PASSWORD is the same as a private key. The API KEY is just another way of accessing it. Also look what ponzi are than describe how my business relates to it  Kiss

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You have been warned, but you don't care.
Continue to do it. Try to hold your emotions and speak well to @vod and @suchmoon.

Secondly, an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key

Stop talking nonsense. It depends on trusting your service, it's nothing like e.g. a Bitcoin private key. If you keep insisting on it you'll likely earn red trust - people tend to care about that shit on this forum.

I have read your topic, but there are no smooth responses.

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5175381

I'm not sure that you can convince the two DTs, for your current problem. Not sure.

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September 15, 2019, 10:15:52 AM
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You have been warned, but you don't care.
Continue to do it. Try to hold your emotions and speak well to @vod and @suchmoon.

Secondly, an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key

Stop talking nonsense. It depends on trusting your service, it's nothing like e.g. a Bitcoin private key. If you keep insisting on it you'll likely earn red trust - people tend to care about that shit on this forum.

I have read your topic, but there are no smooth responses.

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5175381

There no space for smooth responses to debunked stupid accusations. Also why are you quoting partial replies of mine? Thanks for posting again the link though

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Here's another Legendary yelling from his cocky castle. Prove me that an api key can't act as private key and i will leave.

Meanwhile, i post the same reply:

Can you use a private key to control funds on a wallet? YES
Can you use a api key to control funds on an exchange wallet? YES
Can an api key act as a private key? YES
Is an api key different than a private key? YES
Did i say an api key is the same as a private key ? NO




A pure contradictio in terminis(?). Just because something can *possibly* have some of the same functionality doesn't mean that it is equal to the instrument it is compared to.

No. an API key cannot act as a private key.
No. an API key cannot in it's abstract form be used to control funds on an exchange wallet. It can only signal certain commands for the private key to perform. It doesn't replace the private key at all.
Not to mention that an api key doesn't hold any funds, and can have it's access blocked, whereas a private key obviously can't. But i feel like i'm just stating the obvious here, so it's time to stop.


Please go back to the kiddo forum you came from, and promote your ponzi/hyip trash there. You won't be missed here.
My existence doesn't rely on forums like yours. Btw shouldn't you be spamming your signature on the forum instead of fighting on definitions with who codes from 14 yo

Furthermore the whole definition was and is not relevant to the subject. just a dumb excuse. Also look what ponzi are.  Kiss

Except that your entire existence does rely on forums like these. It's funny to see how you project your problems onto me as if they were somehow mine. Something tells me you yourself don't believe what you're saying either.  Tongue

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You're 15 now?

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A pure contradictio in terminis(?). Just because something can *possibly* have some of the same functionality doesn't mean that it is equal to the instrument it is compared to.

No. an API key cannot act as a private key.
No. an API key cannot in it's abstract form be used to control funds on an exchange wallet. It can only signal certain commands for the private key to perform. It doesn't replace the private key at all.
Not to mention that an api key doesn't hold any funds, and can have it's access blocked, whereas a private key obviously can't. But i feel like i'm just stating the obvious here, so it's time to stop.



No idea where you see the contradiction  Grin

Is clear that this guy never used an API KEY. With an API KEY with full privileges you can do ANYTHING on the account. You understand? ANYTHING. Instead of making yourself ridiculously dumb to everyone, go and spend some qualitative time LEARNING how development, coding, api, websocket ecc. work. Then you can come and talk with me.

Wanna bet? give me api key with full power, email and pass, let's see if i can't control the fund.  Grin Grin

Looks like more time you spend on the forum ranking, the more neurons gets lost.

Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge cit. Charles Darwin



Except that your entire existence does rely on forums like these. It's funny to see how you project your problems onto me as if they were somehow mine. Something tells me you yourself don't believe what you're saying either.  Tongue

Oh yeah? am i wasting my time spamming to earn a bounty on signature? or am i building a business? do you think my main action is on this forum?  Grin Not projecting my problems, i don't even consider dumb people problems. You came yelling nonsense, and i have to put you back in your cocky castle.
Btw. i'm still awaiting your explanation on how my ponzi would work.

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i have all kind of evidence that everyone can access to see i'm legit. I don't care if i'm only a member, and i don't care if you refuse to understand my explanations.
If you don't really care just about anything said about you or the feedback then why don't you just stop spamming Meta, seeking for attention?

What's the point of saying you don't care yet you keep coming back here 🤷‍♂️
Legit people know what they do, and they don't have to moan all over the forum over minor issues.

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September 15, 2019, 10:40:27 AM
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The way I understand it, you control the private key and the lenders are given access to the platform via API keys. That means you can also control the funds provided by lenders. You, as the platform owner, is also capable of doing anything like changing the access of lenders to their funds.  
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i have all kind of evidence that everyone can access to see i'm legit. I don't care if i'm only a member, and i don't care if you refuse to understand my explanations.
If you don't really care just about anything said about you or the feedback then why don't you just stop spamming Meta, seeking for attention?

What's the point of saying you don't care yet you keep coming back here 🤷‍♂️
Legit people know what they do, and they don't have to moan all over the forum over minor issues.
Minor issues? This forum is full of Legendary TRASH. I come back to defend myself and my business.  Does that make sense to you?



The way I understand it, you control the private key and the lenders are given access to the platform via API keys. That means you can also control the funds provided by lenders. You, as the platform owner, is also capable of doing anything like changing the access of lenders to their funds.  

Not at all, but i like the way you approached the critic, with at least a doubt assumption. I can see you haven't reached the legendary status yet.  Grin Grin

If you're talking about our service, is very easy. There's no private key.  Grin People create and manage their own bitmex account, while giving us a ORDER ONLY API KEY to link the bot. We have no direct access to the account,email, password,privatekey. NOTHING.. Yet somehow, people say we run a ponzi while we actually never touch the funds untill the costumer voluntary pays the commission.

If you are talking about the proposition i made to lenders providers on this forum, that's different since we are actually borrowing money with interest. In that case a new bitmex account gets created and email+password+email account + api key gets delivered to the lender so it can keep full control on the funds even though the funds are actually "ours" and the lender could run away with the loan+ profits generated.


I honestly don't know how a scam or a ponzi could be made. If anyone can , please show me




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If the business of your is making so much profits (your signature says %495 ROI which is hard to believe btw), why are you seeking investors? Why don't you go all in and have the big prize? Why are you being so nice to us?

Sorry but you are indeed looking for people to scam.

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September 15, 2019, 10:56:05 AM
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If the business of your is making so much profits (your signature says %495 ROI which is hard to believe btw), why are you seeking investors? Why don't you go all in and have the big prize?

Sorry but you are indeed looking for people to scam.

Here we go. LOW RANK PEOPLE can you see how funny is it that all LEGENDARY cannot understand what i'm doing??  Grin Grin Grin

Is not like they are all dumb, just superficial. This guy could easily hand over my thread and download the full 2 year data and trade history of the 495%roi and verify for itself.
Damn he could even access the demo account via api key and see the trades. YET he's sorry but indeed i'm simply looking to scam people.

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Grin Grin Grin


To answer, why am i seeking investors? because i'm running a goddamn quant shop. is what quant shops do. I have a product and i can monetize it in many many ways. Is that shockingly absurd to believe? Can you get rich with 500% in 2 years? Join my service then

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If the business of your is making so much profits (your signature says %495 ROI which is hard to believe btw), why are you seeking investors? Why don't you go all in and have the big prize?

Sorry but you are indeed looking for people to scam.

Here we go. LOW RANK PEOPLE can you see how funny is it that all LEGENDARY cannot understand what i'm doing??  Grin Grin Grin

Is not like they are all dumb, just superficial. This guy could easily hand over my thread and download the full 2 year data and trade history of the 495%roi and verify for itself.
Damn he could even access the demo account via api key and see the trades. YET he's sorry but indeed i'm simply looking to scam people.

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Grin Grin Grin

But why are you being so nice to us? We are all spineless human beings as you said in the title. Why do you want to makes us rich? Let us die poor. Wink

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September 15, 2019, 11:02:19 AM
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If the business of your is making so much profits (your signature says %495 ROI which is hard to believe btw), why are you seeking investors? Why don't you go all in and have the big prize?

Sorry but you are indeed looking for people to scam.

Here we go. LOW RANK PEOPLE can you see how funny is it that all LEGENDARY cannot understand what i'm doing??  Grin Grin Grin

Is not like they are all dumb, just superficial. This guy could easily hand over my thread and download the full 2 year data and trade history of the 495%roi and verify for itself.
Damn he could even access the demo account via api key and see the trades. YET he's sorry but indeed i'm simply looking to scam people.

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Grin Grin Grin

But why are you being so nice to us? We are all spineless human beings as you said in the title. Why do you want to makes us rich? Let us die poor. Wink

Do you think i will let any of the spineless people that i roasted join? I have 7 names on my banned note. And the answer is Bitcoin. We earn even more by acquiring more clients.

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If the business of your is making so much profits (your signature says %495 ROI which is hard to believe btw), why are you seeking investors? Why don't you go all in and have the big prize?

Sorry but you are indeed looking for people to scam.

Here we go. LOW RANK PEOPLE can you see how funny is it that all LEGENDARY cannot understand what i'm doing??  Grin Grin Grin

Is not like they are all dumb, just superficial. This guy could easily hand over my thread and download the full 2 year data and trade history of the 495%roi and verify for itself.
Damn he could even access the demo account via api key and see the trades. YET he's sorry but indeed i'm simply looking to scam people.

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Grin Grin Grin

But why are you being so nice to us? We are all spineless human beings as you said in the title. Why do you want to makes us rich? Let us die poor. Wink

Do you think i will let any of the spineless people that i roasted join? I have 7 names on my banned note. And the answer is Bitcoin. We earn even more by acquiring more clients.

That kind of attitude will indeed get you many customers. Keep it up.

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September 15, 2019, 11:07:47 AM
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If the business of your is making so much profits (your signature says %495 ROI which is hard to believe btw), why are you seeking investors? Why don't you go all in and have the big prize?

Sorry but you are indeed looking for people to scam.

Here we go. LOW RANK PEOPLE can you see how funny is it that all LEGENDARY cannot understand what i'm doing??  Grin Grin Grin

Is not like they are all dumb, just superficial. This guy could easily hand over my thread and download the full 2 year data and trade history of the 495%roi and verify for itself.
Damn he could even access the demo account via api key and see the trades. YET he's sorry but indeed i'm simply looking to scam people.

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Grin Grin Grin

But why are you being so nice to us? We are all spineless human beings as you said in the title. Why do you want to makes us rich? Let us die poor. Wink

Do you think i will let any of the spineless people that i roasted join? I have 7 names on my banned note. And the answer is Bitcoin. We earn even more by acquiring more clients.

That kind of attitude will indeed get you many customers. Keep it up.

We will see, every day new users join our army and i dont need pigs and dogs since the spots available are limited.

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September 15, 2019, 11:09:13 AM
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If you don't really care just about anything said about you or the feedback then why don't you just stop spamming Meta, seeking for attention?

What's the point of saying you don't care yet you keep coming back here 🤷‍♂️
Legit people know what they do, and they don't have to moan all over the forum over minor issues.
Minor issues? This forum is full of Legendary TRASH. I come back to defend myself and my business.  Does that make sense to you?
Yes Minor issue because you told us that you don't care... Or have you forgotten already?

This forum is not for you... Try somewhere else where you can advertise HYIPs/Ponzi schemes and no one will give two fucks about it. In here once you come with your shady business models, you get distrusted. That how it works
Because at the end of the day all those Ponzi schemes, MLMs, Matrices, Doublers,HYIPs or whatever you call them despite paying at first will eventually rip off some people who join later.

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September 15, 2019, 11:17:10 AM
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If you don't really care just about anything said about you or the feedback then why don't you just stop spamming Meta, seeking for attention?

What's the point of saying you don't care yet you keep coming back here 🤷‍♂️
Legit people know what they do, and they don't have to moan all over the forum over minor issues.
Minor issues? This forum is full of Legendary TRASH. I come back to defend myself and my business.  Does that make sense to you?
Yes Minor issue because you told us that you don't care... Or have you forgotten already?

This forum is not for you... Try somewhere else where you can advertise HYIPs/Ponzi schemes and no one will give two fucks about it. In here once you come with your shady business models, you get distrusted. That how it works
Because at the end of the day all those Ponzi schemes, MLMs, Matrices, Doublers,HYIPs or whatever you call them despite paying at first will eventually rip off some people who join later.

What a nice logic you have there,maybe you should work for the police.

Do you know how easy is to prove a service is ponzi  or  scam?? Go ahead and PROVE i'm running one. In my thread you have access to data and trading account. GO and prove that im running a shady business. Otherwise, silence is a better option. And as always, let me decide what is and isn't for me.

I'm fighting with dumbos since early summer and all got defeated and roasted. Let's see if you can do better

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I honestly don't know how a scam or a ponzi could be made. If anyone can , please show me.
Scam or Ponzi are two different things but the same cover.

You made a big mistake by posting someone else's copyright advertisement on your profile in this forum, instead of your own.
This is the name, scam or ponzi.

Your main problem:
All articles that you show here, are posted from other people's rights and can be swiped. (copy/paste)


Topic: ARAKNE QUANT SHOP - Our BOT, YOUR PROFIT! FREE TRIAL + Passive Income 🔥+495%

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The mistake you made.








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The original office advertisement that you took.

Copyright office.

It looks like you will not escape the accusation again.

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September 15, 2019, 11:37:39 AM
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I honestly don't know how a scam or a ponzi could be made. If anyone can , please show me.
Scam or Ponzi are two different things but the same cover.

You made a big mistake by posting someone else's copyright advertisement on your profile in this forum, instead of your own.
This is the name, scam or ponzi.

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Copyright office.

It looks like you will not escape the accusation again.

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So the big scandal is that i used a gif taken from the internet? PATHETIC  Grin

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CryptoSparks... this guy is like a cautionary tale against wasted opportunity, I respond every now and then to his crazy threads because I believe he has great intelligence in some areas and needs to massively improve his attitude and marketing skills  Wink.

You claim the bot has made 495% in about 20 months, let's say 480% returns for 2 years, that's a monthly RoE of 20%.

If anybody believes in your project, of course they would just rather take the 70% profit share deal, which would give them 14% / month on average.

Why would they even consider the lending option, which would give them just 5% / month + hand over full control of their funds to you.
If you come up with ridiculously irrational propositions like that, of course it's gonna raise all kinds of red flags,

and people will just tag you simply because your 1st offer insults their intelligence. I know it's very hard for you to accept that you are wrong, but if you really have a genuine product to offer, just forget about your lending offer, which is totally silly, and stick with the profit sharing deal with trading via API, which is much more advantageous and reasonable for the investor.

Good Luck

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Here is the discussion - edited for brevity but you can follow the links to see the context - that lead to me posting negative trust for the OP:

Lenders keep control of their funds via API KEY. Basically is RISK FREE , they could run away with all profits eventually.

That's not "control," and is completely false and misleading.  An API key is not the same thing as a private key.

Secondly, an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key because it can be enabled for withdraw.

Stop talking nonsense. It depends on trusting your service, it's nothing like e.g. a Bitcoin private key.

Can an api key act as a private key? YES

Since the OP never mentioned this being a Bitmex API key (not an API key to the OP's own service), i.e. Bitmex controls the private keys, I'd be willing to revise my feedback if the OP removes all references to the API key acting "as a private key" and makes it perfectly clear that the counterparty risk lies with Bitmex AND with the OP's service.
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Here is the discussion - edited for brevity but you can follow the links to see the context - that lead to me posting negative trust for the OP:


Since the OP never mentioned this being a Bitmex API key (not an API key to the OP's own service), i.e. Bitmex controls the private keys, I'd be willing to revise my feedback if the OP removes all references to the API key acting "as a private key" and makes it perfectly clear that the counterparty risk lies with Bitmex AND with the OP's service.

I'll add a new feedback if that's the case.

OP is a liar. whether it be in his terminology that he has since white-washed, or the service he's offering.

CryptoSparks... this guy is like a cautionary tale against wasted opportunity, I respond every now and then to his crazy threads because I believe he has great intelligence in some areas and needs to massively improve his attitude and marketing skills  Wink.

You claim the bot has made 495% in about 20 months, let's say 480% returns for 2 years, that's a monthly RoE of 20%.

and people will just tag you simply because your 1st offer insults their intelligence. I know it's very hard for you to accept that you are wrong, but if you really have a genuine product to offer, just forget about your lending offer, which is totally silly, and stick with the profit sharing deal with trading via API, which is much more advantageous and reasonable for the investor.
If his bot has the returns he is advertising to have, he doesn't need investors at all.

Compound interest will make him the richest man in the crypto industry within a few years. (AKA: this immature retard is full of shit.)

We've seen these bots before, and i can tell you how the story ended: there was a slight crash and everyone who used the bot on bitmex got liquidated. The bot only worked for the time being simply due to the uptrend of bitcoin itself, not because it made "hyper intelligent trades". I'll see if i can find it.

Exact copy of: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025195.msg45451272#msg45451272


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I believe he has great intelligence
We will see, every day new users join our army and i dont need pigs and dogs since the spots available are limited.
Yeah. Using the word "dogs" as an insult clearly shows high levels of intelligence.


His calculations also seem flawed.
He claims a daily profit of 0.5%, ~97% of the time ~=100%, for 2 years?

daily compounding would give a return of 3800%, (but i guess he will claim that the losses aren't accounted for?)

(And no, i'm not going to go through your "trading data".)

Good luck with your bot.

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The way I understand it, you control the private key and the lenders are given access to the platform via API keys. That means you can also control the funds provided by lenders. You, as the platform owner, is also capable of doing anything like changing the access of lenders to their funds.  

Not at all, but i like the way you approached the critic, with at least a doubt assumption. I can see you haven't reached the legendary status yet.  Grin Grin

If you're talking about our service, is very easy. There's no private key.  Grin People create and manage their own bitmex account, while giving us a ORDER ONLY API KEY to link the bot. We have no direct access to the account,email, password,privatekey. NOTHING.. Yet somehow, people say we run a ponzi while we actually never touch the funds untill the costumer voluntary pays the commission.

If you are talking about the proposition i made to lenders providers on this forum, that's different since we are actually borrowing money with interest. In that case a new bitmex account gets created and email+password+email account + api key gets delivered to the lender so it can keep full control on the funds even though the funds are actually "ours" and the lender could run away with the loan+ profits generated.
This wasn't clear to me when I read your other thread. I don't know if what you claim (ROI) is real and that is for other readers to decide. Maybe you can improve on your presentation and transparency? I'm not sure if you were willing to provide the above info if I had not ask.
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September 15, 2019, 02:39:46 PM
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I'll add a new feedback if that's the case.

OP is a liar. whether it be in his terminology that he has since white-washed, or the service he's offering.

Well, I said "revise" Grin

Seriously though, I haven't looked too deep into the actual "business" proposition and I don't really want to spend too much time on this, what with the OP being a grade A asshole. But yeah, anything promising those kinds of returns and downplaying the risks sounds fishy.
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Also notice how all the roasted users are high rank, most of them legendary.
That's because a lot of high-ranked members have seen innumerable Ponzi schemes and other scams perpetrated on this forum, and they don't take kindly to anything that has even the whiff of something like that.  I took a look at the reference thread from Vod's feedback, and it certainly does look like you're running a Ponzi of some sort--characterized by the offer of a fixed and improbable return on a sucker's investment.  Vod is trying to protect people here by warning them of shady activity, and he's done a damn good job for years.

If your investment scheme is legitimate, perhaps you can explain its legitimacy to Vod.  He's reasonable and smart, so if you can prove that you're not running a Ponzi, he might remove that feedback.  I don't think that's likely, but it's worth a shot.  Raging against a bunch of people in this thread isn't going to help your case, however.

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If anyone is curious why I deleted the posts I had made in that thread, it's because I felt dirty afterwords.  It felt like wrestling a pig, I just wind up getting dirty and the pig likes it.

I haven't had time to really dig into CryptoSparks' service proposal, his service code, or his post history, but I do want to take the time to do so.  My suspicion is that CryptoSparks is no quant.  I don't know where or how he got himself a quantbot, or if there really is one plugged into his service.

What is clear and beyond dispute is that he's a liar and a troll.

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Do you know how easy is to prove a service is ponzi  or  scam?? Go ahead and PROVE i'm running one.

OK.  Show me any reputable company that can offer 180% interest per year?

Proved.

Your feedback on Suchmoon's profile and my profile also proves you are not running a legit business.  Smiley

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CryptoSparks... this guy is like a cautionary tale against wasted opportunity, I respond every now and then to his crazy threads because I believe he has great intelligence in some areas and needs to massively improve his attitude and marketing skills  Wink.

You claim the bot has made 495% in about 20 months, let's say 480% returns for 2 years, that's a monthly RoE of 20%.

If anybody believes in your project, of course they would just rather take the 70% profit share deal, which would give them 14% / month on average.

Why would they even consider the lending option, which would give them just 5% / month + hand over full control of their funds to you.
If you come up with ridiculously irrational propositions like that, of course it's gonna raise all kinds of red flags,

and people will just tag you simply because your 1st offer insults their intelligence. I know it's very hard for you to accept that you are wrong, but if you really have a genuine product to offer, just forget about your lending offer, which is totally silly, and stick with the profit sharing deal with trading via API, which is much more advantageous and reasonable for the investor.

Good Luck
You are right, i probably did a mistake offering that option. That also brought a lot of confusions about how my business actually works. Thanks for the advice, and yes i suck at marketing.. it always turns into a roasting show  Grin





Here is the discussion - edited for brevity but you can follow the links to see the context - that lead to me posting negative trust for the OP:

Lenders keep control of their funds via API KEY. Basically is RISK FREE , they could run away with all profits eventually.

That's not "control," and is completely false and misleading.  An API key is not the same thing as a private key.

Secondly, an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key because it can be enabled for withdraw.

Stop talking nonsense. It depends on trusting your service, it's nothing like e.g. a Bitcoin private key.

Can an api key act as a private key? YES

Since the OP never mentioned this being a Bitmex API key (not an API key to the OP's own service), i.e. Bitmex controls the private keys, I'd be willing to revise my feedback if the OP removes all references to the API key acting "as a private key" and makes it perfectly clear that the counterparty risk lies with Bitmex AND with the OP's service.


This is a recurring problem sadly, and is the core of this thread. You high ranked members that are "looking over" and protecting the more naive users from the endless scams popping, can't even take the care to properly investigate and judge a service. a quick read to the first paragraph of my business thread would have avoided this misunderstanding and many more.

I will not take back that an API key can act as a private key simply because that would be a lie. One or more false negative feedback doesn't make a difference.
Thanks for the proposal though, next time DYOR  Roll Eyes
Lastly, the client's risks are:
-Getting hacked and loosing access to their own bitmex account
-Bitmex exit scamming
-Bitmex banning the user for continuous profits(look on the web, it's a thing)
-Attacks on vps can cause the bots to go off-sync causing delays in reacting to volatile market moves
-Manipulations that can exploit our anti-manipulation barriers result in losing trades.







Here is the discussion - edited for brevity but you can follow the links to see the context - that lead to me posting negative trust for the OP:


Since the OP never mentioned this being a Bitmex API key (not an API key to the OP's own service), i.e. Bitmex controls the private keys, I'd be willing to revise my feedback if the OP removes all references to the API key acting "as a private key" and makes it perfectly clear that the counterparty risk lies with Bitmex AND with the OP's service.

I'll add a new feedback if that's the case.

OP is a liar. whether it be in his terminology that he has since white-washed, or the service he's offering.

CryptoSparks... this guy is like a cautionary tale against wasted opportunity, I respond every now and then to his crazy threads because I believe he has great intelligence in some areas and needs to massively improve his attitude and marketing skills  Wink.

You claim the bot has made 495% in about 20 months, let's say 480% returns for 2 years, that's a monthly RoE of 20%.

and people will just tag you simply because your 1st offer insults their intelligence. I know it's very hard for you to accept that you are wrong, but if you really have a genuine product to offer, just forget about your lending offer, which is totally silly, and stick with the profit sharing deal with trading via API, which is much more advantageous and reasonable for the investor.
If his bot has the returns he is advertising to have, he doesn't need investors at all.

Compound interest will make him the richest man in the crypto industry within a few years. (AKA: this immature retard is full of shit.)

We've seen these bots before, and i can tell you how the story ended: there was a slight crash and everyone who used the bot on bitmex got liquidated. The bot only worked for the time being simply due to the uptrend of bitcoin itself, not because it made "hyper intelligent trades". I'll see if i can find it.

Exact copy of: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025195.msg45451272#msg45451272


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I believe he has great intelligence
We will see, every day new users join our army and i dont need pigs and dogs since the spots available are limited.
Yeah. Using the word "dogs" as an insult clearly shows high levels of intelligence.


His calculations also seem flawed.
He claims a daily profit of 0.5%, ~97% of the time ~=100%, for 2 years?

daily compounding would give a return of 3800%, (but i guess he will claim that the losses aren't accounted for?)

(And no, i'm not going to go through your "trading data".)

Good luck with your bot.


Dear ADOLF (a name a warranty btw...  Grin ). I already had to explain you the what/how/where of the API KEYS, now is math time. you know , if you wanna go above your incredible bb code and html skillzz you should focus on the language of the goddamn universe which is, you guessed it.. MATH! i love it because she never lies , something difficult to find in the spineless human beings.

I'd start by saying that i don't claim a daily profit of 0.5% but an avg win roi of 0.5% per trade.

Here's what i not only claim but prove with history data fully documented. Here a screenshoot since i'm sure you didn't even bother to check:

 

One thing you got it right though. THE KEY. The one and only! The compounding effect. As you may notice the TRADE_ROI is actually only +176.18% while the compounding effect + the fees collected while market making(you know what that means right?) kick the final ROI to +495.35%

You could check every single trade, with timestamps entries exits stakes , in the trade_history file f last 20 month... but why would you research a thing that don't and probably never understand?  Grin

I will always remember you for this absolute pearl of old fashion ignorance :



Which i would like to reply with 3 images:

the current number of active bots on bitmex



the current 24h volume, which is also low because on weekends there's less volume



And the graph from a few months ago bitmex's trading digest newsletter , which demonstrates by how far bots rule the market.



I guess we are all stupid playing the game while mr adolf is hiding in his bunker wasting time on btt. Quite pathetic.  Cry













The way I understand it, you control the private key and the lenders are given access to the platform via API keys. That means you can also control the funds provided by lenders. You, as the platform owner, is also capable of doing anything like changing the access of lenders to their funds.  

Not at all, but i like the way you approached the critic, with at least a doubt assumption. I can see you haven't reached the legendary status yet.  Grin Grin

If you're talking about our service, is very easy. There's no private key.  Grin People create and manage their own bitmex account, while giving us a ORDER ONLY API KEY to link the bot. We have no direct access to the account,email, password,privatekey. NOTHING.. Yet somehow, people say we run a ponzi while we actually never touch the funds untill the costumer voluntary pays the commission.

If you are talking about the proposition i made to lenders providers on this forum, that's different since we are actually borrowing money with interest. In that case a new bitmex account gets created and email+password+email account + api key gets delivered to the lender so it can keep full control on the funds even though the funds are actually "ours" and the lender could run away with the loan+ profits generated.
This wasn't clear to me when I read your other thread. I don't know if what you claim (ROI) is real and that is for other readers to decide. Maybe you can improve on your presentation and transparency? I'm not sure if you were willing to provide the above info if I had not ask.

Thanks, more than showing 2 years of data and trade history while giving full access to the demo account via api key i don't know what else we could provide. Plus we never touch or access the client's funds. Is bulletproof business model, that's why every accusation failed (with the exception of the hilarious gif thing  Grin Grin )





Also notice how all the roasted users are high rank, most of them legendary.
That's because a lot of high-ranked members have seen innumerable Ponzi schemes and other scams perpetrated on this forum, and they don't take kindly to anything that has even the whiff of something like that.  I took a look at the reference thread from Vod's feedback, and it certainly does look like you're running a Ponzi of some sort--characterized by the offer of a fixed and improbable return on a sucker's investment.  Vod is trying to protect people here by warning them of shady activity, and he's done a damn good job for years.

If your investment scheme is legitimate, perhaps you can explain its legitimacy to Vod.  He's reasonable and smart, so if you can prove that you're not running a Ponzi, he might remove that feedback.  I don't think that's likely, but it's worth a shot.  Raging against a bunch of people in this thread isn't going to help your case, however.

That's legit, but superficiality is the problem here. Vod didn't understood a single thing of our business simply because he didn't bother to check the thread or to ask! He went straight to red trust. I'm never not gonna beg him to remove it. If he's smart as you say, he'll take 10 minutes to read my thread and see that there's now way we can run a scam or ponzi. is technically impossible.









If anyone is curious why I deleted the posts I had made in that thread, it's because I felt dirty afterwords.  It felt like wrestling a pig, I just wind up getting dirty and the pig likes it.

I haven't had time to really dig into CryptoSparks' service proposal, his service code, or his post history, but I do want to take the time to do so.  My suspicion is that CryptoSparks is no quant.  I don't know where or how he got himself a quantbot, or if there really is one plugged into his service.

What is clear and beyond dispute is that he's a liar and a troll.


IGNORANCE STRIKES AGAIN.

"I haven't had time to really dig into CryptoSparks' service proposal," but "is clear and beyond dispute is that he's a liar and a troll."





Do you know how easy is to prove a service is ponzi  or  scam?? Go ahead and PROVE i'm running one.

OK.  Show me any reputable company that can offer 180% interest per year?

Proved.

Your feedback on Suchmoon's profile and my profile also proves you are not running a legit business.  Smiley

Goodbye, scammer.

ArakneFUND  Grin

You know, the way you guys react to a simple 180% ANNUAL ROI makes me laugh my ass off! You guys are thinking so small that will be hilarious when our swing trading bot will hit the bitcointalk pages next month.  Grin Grin  Vod you probably don't even know the difference between market making and swing trading, but is ok... the only skill you will ever need is a long tongue!!  Grin Grin


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I will not take back that an API key can act as a private key

You're on the wrong site then. Go scam reddit and twitface.
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CLOSURE:
The real nature of this thread was double faced. I knew that posting on meta would have been a perfect trap to demonstrate the EXTREME SUPERFICIALITY AND LACK OF KNOWLEDGE of some legendary members.
In 24 hours 4 Legendary member and 1 Hero member felt for the trap.


suchmoon was superficial as for own admission
Vod total 0 understanding of the business model
AdolfinWolf simply lack of knowledge
DireWolfM14 lack of knowledge + total 0 understanding of the business model. i really don't  know where you got all that stuff out  Grin
nutildah  total 0 understanding of the business model. The guy never even commented, didn't read anything but felt the need to pop a random idiot negative feedback.

Hopefully this will make some of you big guys think the way you behave and exploit your rank.
Furthermore, there's a clear link between the accounts as most of them are in the same signature campaign or anyway related to the betting world. I guess they prefer you to loose money instead of earning smartly!! Our business is a clear threat and they thought some red trust might help them out.

I got so many request to join by lower ranked members and even a couple legendary that are genuinly interested in testing the service , which is why i will keep my business open for bitcointalk users even after the mass of negative feedbacks i earned with this experiment.

I guess Trump shows how even bad press is good press!

Cheers  Grin

EDIT:
It appears we have a bit of a "cupola" running in here. Luckily i was able to screenshoot this message before it was taken down which in my opinion is quite interesting:




It appears is about a bunch of scam buddies helping each other! so the real problem is that with my business model i can't be a scammer like them. My service is a threat because more users join it less people they are able to scam.

If you wonder what legit legendaries think of our service:






And when dealing on this forum, always remember that ranks and trust can be easily manipulated! Always DYOR carefully before dealing with anyone!

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There can be no closure until you lock the thread.  Smiley

Goodbye, Scammer.
I am pro freedom of speech so the thread will stay open in case anyone wants to add anything. Why goodbye mate? We are here to stay!   Kiss
People that are already our clients are already speaking laud and clear, and everyday more will come. Get your liver ready because next month you will see an invasion of people posting positive feedback about us. Let's not forget we opened our business 10 days ago.  Grin

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We are here to stay!

Lol, those wall posts started to make you look like cryptohunter, now you sound like him too.

You keep talking about the ignorance of others, but you've yet to demonstrate your superior intelligence to us.  If you really are a quantitative trading programmer maybe you should find a job, and stop propagating lies about bitcoin on a bitcoin forum. 

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We are here to stay!

Lol, those wall posts started to make you look like cryptohunter, now you sound like him too.

You keep talking about the ignorance of others, but you've yet to demonstrate your superior intelligence to us.  If you really are a quantitative trading programmer maybe you should find a job, and stop propagating lies about bitcoin on a bitcoin forum.  
I've demonstrated it with the hours spent in this thread.

The problem is that we don't have a signature campaign running... is it a coincidence that your buddy AdolfinWolf is in the same signature campaign as you are?  Grin
I think you got exposed!

What the hell are you even promoting? https://chipmixer.com/ is down

When people attack trading and promote all day betting... there's nothing else to add!


Notice how most of ignorant trolls roasted in this thread are related to betting forum,games,service  Grin Grin Grin

Its so obvious most high rank users in this forum are promoting stupid betting games where you only LOOSE! We promote documented trading system of 2 years of testing! Think about the volume of money that is involved in trading and then of the people wasting few mBTC on this mixer shit. And the site is not even up! Hilarious

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Op this forum is full of idiots that want to bring other people down, probably because they got bullied in school and like the little bit of power this forum gives them with their virtual points.

Don't let these haters bring you down and continue to guild you business.

This forum is mostly shills that are promoting mixers and crypto casinos.  There is a reason why all the big crypto players left this forum a long time ago.
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Op this forum is full of idiots that want to bring other people down, probably because they got bullied in school and like the little bit of power this forum gives them with their virtual points.

Don't let these haters bring you down and continue to guild you business.

"above the one above all"  oh geez...

You keep talking about the ignorance of others, but you've yet to demonstrate your superior intelligence to us.
I've demonstrated it with the hours spent in this thread.

I have almost 300 days spent online here - you?

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Op this forum is full of idiots that want to bring other people down, probably because they got bullied in school and like the little bit of power this forum gives them with their virtual points.

Don't let these haters bring you down and continue to guild you business.

"above the one above all"  oh geez...

You keep talking about the ignorance of others, but you've yet to demonstrate your superior intelligence to us.
I've demonstrated it with the hours spent in this thread.

I have almost 300 days spent online here - you?

At least you are not promoting those stupid games. Now seriously talking, do you think that all those shitty little casinos and games that are coded to make the player loose on long term(they earn on losses right?) are less scam than a long term documentated wining trading system where the service provider earns only on player wins?


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So, I have almost 300 days spent online here.

According to you, that proves my superior intelligence over you. 

I'll use this intelligence to ignore you now, and come back in a few months to remind you how you failed.

Goodbye, Scammer.

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Op this forum is full of idiots that want to bring other people down, probably because they got bullied in school and like the little bit of power this forum gives them with their virtual points.

Don't let these haters bring you down and continue to guild you business.

This forum is mostly shills that are promoting mixers and crypto casinos.  There is a reason why all the big crypto players left this forum a long time ago.

Yes you nailed the point! We will try to save what's left of the rekt people from betting and mixing scams and other games coded to make the player loose long term.
we also offer affiliate payout so get ready because there will be a battle on this forum over the next months  Grin


So, I have almost 300 days spent online here.

According to you, that proves my superior intelligence over you.  

I'll use this intelligence to ignore you now, and come back in a few months to remind you how you failed.

Goodbye, Scammer.

ah ok, you're acting dumb. is fine... looks like your business is leaving red trust , pathetic



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The problem is that we don't have a signature campaign running... is it a coincidence that your buddy AdolfinWolf is in the same signature campaign as you are?  Grin
I think you got exposed!

And they both have "Wolf" in their names. This must be some anti-quant conspiracy.

Either that or you're some bored kid who learned enough buzzwords to be dangerous but not enough real skills to make money via actual work.

rekt people from betting and mixing and other games coded to make the player loose long term.

I look forward to you never admitting that you have no clue what "mixing" is just like you have no clue what a Bitcoin private key is.
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The problem is that we don't have a signature campaign running... is it a coincidence that your buddy AdolfinWolf is in the same signature campaign as you are?  Grin
I think you got exposed!

And they both have "Wolf" in their names. This must be some anti-quant conspiracy.

Either that or you're some bored kid who learned enough buzzwords to be dangerous but not enough real skills to make money via actual work.

rekt people from betting and mixing and other games coded to make the player loose long term.

I look forward to you never admitting that you have no clue what "mixing" is just like you have no clue what a Bitcoin private key is.
LOL sorry mi lady , i thought you were promoting a game or casino. Didn't notice immediately was a mixing bitcoin service. sorry what is bitcoin? is it eatable ?

Anyway mixing is still in a more scam territory since you need to send BTC to the service provider, while with us the client keep control of the funds.

I look forward in you joining our signature campaign in a few weeks, there's also the affiliation  Grin

Meanwhile, i invite you all to keep checking the updates in my thread, eventually we will get a loss and you will be able to cheer for a bit!

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with us the client keep control of the funds.

Uhm... no. The client gives the funds to Bitmex AND gives an API key to you. And you keep lying that there is no risk. Not cool.
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with us the client keep control of the funds.

Uhm... no. The client gives the funds to Bitmex AND gives an API key to you. And you keep lying that there is no risk. Not cool.

Still no DYOR? Api key is limited to only order creation. you can find the risk involved a few posts above.

I doubt there's a more legit a transparent service on Bitcointalk. But i get it, we are new and doubts are legit.

Time will tell the truth, like always!

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with us the client keep control of the funds.

Uhm... no. The client gives the funds to Bitmex AND gives an API key to you. And you keep lying that there is no risk. Not cool.

Still no DYOR? Api key is limited to only order creation. you can find the risk involved a few posts above.

As I said, if you clean up all that shit you posted about API keys acting as private keys etc - I'd be willing to revise my feedback but you're more interested in lying and trolling so have it your way. I'm sure you'll find some suckers to give you money and they won't be able to claim that they haven't been warned so it's a win-win-win for everyone involved.
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with us the client keep control of the funds.

Uhm... no. The client gives the funds to Bitmex AND gives an API key to you. And you keep lying that there is no risk. Not cool.

Still no DYOR? Api key is limited to only order creation. you can find the risk involved a few posts above.

As I said, if you clean up all that shit you posted about API keys acting as private keys etc - I'd be willing to revise my feedback but you're more interested in lying and trolling so have it your way. I'm sure you'll find some suckers to give you money and they won't be able to claim that they haven't been warned so it's a win-win-win for everyone involved.

With withdraw privileges enabled, an API KEY can act as a PRIVATE KEY as long it remains enabled.

This is the truth and i can't take it back. Any other dev can confirm it 

Furthermore, as the user in the deleted post pointed out, you have been clever enough to keep your account all green until today... even though the warning was right there
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with us the client keep control of the funds.

Uhm... no. The client gives the funds to Bitmex AND gives an API key to you. And you keep lying that there is no risk. Not cool.
Suchmoon, I am using his Arakne bot since 2 september and used his swing bot before that. The risk is he wash trades and liquidates all your money yes. However this is the risk u must take to trust him. I have trusted him with a relatively small amount and I see his algo bot create good returns already. Like I understand you can be skeptical but all this PONZI calls and such by other users is outright ridicolous. OP is not a scammer since he never took my money or did stupid trading to liquidate my positions or had any bad intentions with any trade.

Bitmex has option to disable withdrawing for an API key. So I am still the owner of my account. He just has trading rights. It is very easy to understand, but I guess some are lazy to read the full context.

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Suchmoon, I am using his Arakne bot since 2 september and used his swing bot before that. The risk is he wash trades and liquidates all your money yes. However this is the risk u must take to trust him. I have trusted him with a relatively small amount and I see his algo bot create good returns already. Like I understand you can be skeptical but all this PONZI calls and such by other users is outright ridicolous. OP is not a scammer since he never took my money or did stupid trading to liquidate my positions or had any bad intentions with any trade.

Bitmex has option to disable withdrawing for an API key. So I am still the owner of my account. He just has trading rights. It is very easy to understand, but I guess some are lazy to read the full context.

There are plenty of bots out there using API keys. The risks are well known. The OP is the first shithead I've seen to be claiming that the API key acts as a private key and that people can lend to his service "risk free". Promising consistently high returns is just icing on the cake. If you want to believe that tripe based on the few trades you made with small amounts - go ahead. Most people tend to be more cautious about trusting liars.
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Suchmoon, I am using his Arakne bot since 2 september and used his swing bot before that. The risk is he wash trades and liquidates all your money yes. However this is the risk u must take to trust him. I have trusted him with a relatively small amount and I see his algo bot create good returns already. Like I understand you can be skeptical but all this PONZI calls and such by other users is outright ridicolous. OP is not a scammer since he never took my money or did stupid trading to liquidate my positions or had any bad intentions with any trade.

Bitmex has option to disable withdrawing for an API key. So I am still the owner of my account. He just has trading rights. It is very easy to understand, but I guess some are lazy to read the full context.

There are plenty of bots out there using API keys. The risks are well known. The OP is the first shithead I've seen to be claiming that the API key acts as a private key and that people can lend to his service "risk free". Promising consistently high returns is just icing on the cake. If you want to believe that tripe based on the few trades you made with small amounts - go ahead. Most people tend to be more cautious about trusting liars.
At least a shithead is capable of understanding a business model after someone explains it 10 times in 10 different ways. Get over it lady, this is not your business. See Arakne succeed from the shadows as you wish. I doubt you are suchdumb not to understand, so i guess you have second interests to protect.

At least stop spreading the same nonsense about lending and api key. did you forget you already admitted that you superficially didn't understand that bitmex was holding the funds and the api key generation?? Why insisting in reporting false quotes?

Also you are right, tons of shit open source bots. Why don't you download them, implement a backtest engine and confront the result with our bot.
BTW, I haven't seen a quant shop that offers our business mode based on api linking on bitcointalk, maybe you can link it to me.

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At least a shithead is capable of understanding a business model after someone explains it 10 times in 10 different ways.

I love this explanation best:

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if the bot is so great, why sharing? More bots running the trade equals more support for the trade which equals to even higher probability of success.

Might wanna sell your bot to the US government - will solve the budget deficit and you'll make a trillion USD in the process.
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If you want to believe that tripe based on the few trades you made with small amounts - go ahead. Most people tend to be more cautious about trusting liars.

Yup 600+ trades over a period of 20 months are just "a few"  Grin


At least a shithead is capable of understanding a business model after someone explains it 10 times in 10 different ways.

I love this explanation best:

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if the bot is so great, why sharing? More bots running the trade equals more support for the trade which equals to even higher probability of success.

Might wanna sell your bot to the US government - will solve the budget deficit and you'll make a trillion USD in the process.

I love how you keep attacking on definitions that you misunderstand because of lack of knowledge in the argument.

Do you know how supports and resistances work? if, as an absurd hypothetical scenario in which the problem of my service is too many users (we got accused of this too), we would be able to place multiple huge walls acting as resistance once a trade is approached. This results in simple cause/effect domino in which price requires much more volume of breaking the range of the market making and risking of hitting our stop while incrementing the probability of success.

Again you proved your ignorance on the matter. Maybe is time to hide under a rock you disillusioned shiba!

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If you want to believe that tripe based on the few trades you made with small amounts - go ahead. Most people tend to be more cautious about trusting liars.

Yup 600+ trades over a period of 20 months are just "a few"  Grin


At least a shithead is capable of understanding a business model after someone explains it 10 times in 10 different ways.

I love this explanation best:

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if the bot is so great, why sharing? More bots running the trade equals more support for the trade which equals to even higher probability of success.

Might wanna sell your bot to the US government - will solve the budget deficit and you'll make a trillion USD in the process.

I love how you keep attacking on definitions that you misunderstand because of lack of knowledge in the argument.

Do you know how supports and resistances work? if, as an absurd hypothetical scenario in which the problem of my service is too many users (we got accused of this too), we would be able to place multiple huge walls acting as resistance once a trade is approached. This results in simple cause/effect domino in which price requires much more volume of breaking the range of the market making and risking of hitting our stop while incrementing the probability of success.

Again you proved your ignorance on the matter. Maybe is time to hide under a rock you disillusioned shiba!



Using some random trading terms doesn't make you seem smarter.

If anything, the opposite. Acting as if you know how the market will react to your "walls" really is absolutely ludicrous, and i can do nothing but laugh at you.
I'm not sure if you understand how mark/spot prices work and how they are determined on Bitmex, but you might want to read up on that.

And no, i'm not going to debate you on your bot. You're selling a fraudulent product.
Anyone can read how it ended with other "quant" bots such as Reggiebot- they got completely liquidated.

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Yup 600+ trades over a period of 20 months are just "a few"  Grin
Those JSON files you posted are worthless.

Why don't you give us an API key of your Bitmex accounts with simple READ permissions to look into your trades.
That would REALLY convince some people here.

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If you want to believe that tripe based on the few trades you made with small amounts - go ahead. Most people tend to be more cautious about trusting liars.

Yup 600+ trades over a period of 20 months are just "a few"  Grin


At least a shithead is capable of understanding a business model after someone explains it 10 times in 10 different ways.

I love this explanation best:

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if the bot is so great, why sharing? More bots running the trade equals more support for the trade which equals to even higher probability of success.

Might wanna sell your bot to the US government - will solve the budget deficit and you'll make a trillion USD in the process.

I love how you keep attacking on definitions that you misunderstand because of lack of knowledge in the argument.

Do you know how supports and resistances work? if, as an absurd hypothetical scenario in which the problem of my service is too many users (we got accused of this too), we would be able to place multiple huge walls acting as resistance once a trade is approached. This results in simple cause/effect domino in which price requires much more volume of breaking the range of the market making and risking of hitting our stop while incrementing the probability of success.

Again you proved your ignorance on the matter. Maybe is time to hide under a rock you disillusioned shiba!



Using some random trading terms doesn't make you seem smarter.

If anything, the opposite. Acting as if you know how the market will react to your "walls" really is absolutely ludicrous, and i can do nothing but laugh at you.
I'm not sure if you understand how mark/spot prices work and how they are determined on Bitmex, but you might want to read up on that.

And no, i'm not going to debate you on your bot. You're selling a fraudulent product.
Anyone can read how it ended with other "quant" bots such as Reggiebot- they got completely liquidated.

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Yup 600+ trades over a period of 20 months are just "a few"  Grin
Those JSON files you posted are worthless.

Why don't you give us an API key of your Bitmex accounts with simple READ permissions to look into your trades.
That would REALLY convince some people here.

If the explanation i gave you seems random, you should think about why it feels random to you. because you can't understand it.
WHY DON'T YOU CHECK MY THREAD AND FIND THE GODDAMN API KEY YOU ARE ASKING FOR ? BECAUSE IS RIGHT THERE!!!!
Why do you refuse to read 2 paragraphs so you actually understand what the business model is instead of making fun of yourself over and over again?



TRADES UPDATE HISTORY

Still having doubts?
ACCESS THE TEST ACCOUNT VIA THE FOLLOWING API KEY:
ID:

Code:
_rbjC_vOwJBRupytRPo7nxYI
SECRET:
Code:
V8AU7GvMLSry4mpKnKD1Bu8PBuYpLZx88dfn40Nkq1Dm59GE

Note that the readonly API KEY is disabled during trades in order to avoid people getting rekt manually copying the trades.
Market conditions can change in a split of a second and the bot immediately reacts to them changing entries and exits.
By manual trading the rekt will eventually hit because no human can compete with tireless machines.





Condensed in one post because silly jealous people on this forum like wasting time reporting legit ups. Isn't Bob?  Kiss

SEPTEMBER 2019

CURRENT STATS

WINS: 24      LOSSES: 0    ROI: +9.7%

Note that these are ALL TRADES, temporal gaps happen because anti-malipulation functions prevent the bot from trading in a lot of situations, resulting in days without any trade.

3rd September 2019 - 6th September 2019

8 WIN - 0 LOSS      ROI: +1%




7th September 2019

4 WIN - 0 LOSS      ROI: +1%




12th September 2019

7 WIN - 0 LOSS      ROI: +6%




13th September 2019

5 WIN - 0 LOSS  ROI: +1.7%




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If you don't understand , don't act like a pro with who actually works full time on shit like that. You will never win.

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September 16, 2019, 04:23:18 PM
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Using some random trading terms doesn't make you seem smarter.

Give him a break, he just recently graduated from a professional translator, bounty hunter, and dust borrower to a "quant". He's still learning the words.
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September 16, 2019, 04:33:21 PM
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You funny trolls got publicy roasted!! No valid arguments, every stupid accusation debunked, if you can't even understand my explanations is not my fault.
I bet none of you ever used Bitmex.

I don't care what bots you have seen in the past, but as soon as you talk about liquidated positions, i can tell you are talking of trash products because liquidation is never an option  if you do things properly.
Stop must always come first. Arakne has indeed a mathematical max loss of 32%.

I'm not here to convince you stupid 5 people that keep trolling, is clear to everbody that you 5 are all buddies, now roasted buddies. I'm here to debunk all of your stupid accusations.

you can keep trying to find weakness in Arakne's business model, you won't find any. Even though for you guys the rule is GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT, you can't take me down. Simply because i'm legit 100%.


Suchmoon, everyday you must look at that orange mark on your account and remember the day you challenged someone on its own ground battle without even doing a little research first. Get used in seeing me and Arakne around for a long time baby  Kiss

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Suchmoon, everyday you must look at that orange mark on your account

Orange what now?
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Suchmoon, everyday you must look at that orange mark on your account

Orange what now?

He's probably talking about the negative review he left for you.  He sees it as an orange mark on your trust rating.  What he doesn't realize that he's the only one who sees it, but I promise I won't tell him.


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September 16, 2019, 04:48:05 PM
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Suchmoon, everyday you must look at that orange mark on your account

Orange what now?

He's probably talking about the negative review he left for you.  He sees it as an orange mark on your trust rating.  What he doesn't realize that he's the only one who sees it, but I promise I won't tell him.


Wait what? What's the point in a feedback tool if only the parties see it?  Grin Grin

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Suchmoon, everyday you must look at that orange mark on your account

Orange what now?

He's probably talking about the negative review he left for you.  He sees it as an orange mark on your trust rating.  What he doesn't realize that he's the only one who sees it, but I promise I won't tell him.


Wait what? What's the point in a feedback tool if only the parties see it?  Grin Grin

You sure you haven't bought your account?

Because that's how you sound like right now.

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Suchmoon, everyday you must look at that orange mark on your account

Orange what now?

He's probably talking about the negative review he left for you.  He sees it as an orange mark on your trust rating.  What he doesn't realize that he's the only one who sees it, but I promise I won't tell him.

LOL, ok, that makes sense given everything we know so far about his intellectual prowess.

Speaking of negative trust, the one that he posted for you seems to admit that he's running a bulletproof scam business:

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Suchmoon, everyday you must look at that orange mark on your account

Orange what now?

He's probably talking about the negative review he left for you.  He sees it as an orange mark on your trust rating.  What he doesn't realize that he's the only one who sees it, but I promise I won't tell him.

LOL, ok, that makes sense given everything we know so far about his intellectual prowess.

Speaking of negative trust, the one that he posted for you seems to admit that he's running a bulletproof scam business:

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Well that's pretty stupid, and if that's the case now i understand why Vod commented on my threads saying to explicitly check my trust.   Roll Eyes

I mean, imagine ebay or amazon with a similar feedback system. hilarious

Also means that your pathetic attempts to ruin my reputation with false red trust is even weaker than what i thought.

Thanks, never stop learning!   Wink


Also don't be silly, you know what i meant with that feedback Grin





Suchmoon, everyday you must look at that orange mark on your account

Orange what now?

He's probably talking about the negative review he left for you.  He sees it as an orange mark on your trust rating.  What he doesn't realize that he's the only one who sees it, but I promise I won't tell him.


Wait what? What's the point in a feedback tool if only the parties see it?  Grin Grin

You sure you haven't bought your account?

Because that's how you sound like right now.

Mate i'm sorry if i don't know how every function of this huge forum ecosystem works. I never needed to know how the feedback tool actually works because i never had any kind of problem. Honest people tend to be a bit naive, but is ok, none is perfect...

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@CryptoSparks

If this service that you’re offering is truly legitimate, it’s only suffering as a result of your attitude.  If you had approached the forum community with humility instead of hubris, honesty instead of deceit, generosity instead of greed you may have actually made something of this service you’re offering.

If I was to offer a service such as this I would have proposed the following:
1)   Don’t send me any money.
2)   Send the funds to your own bitmex (or whatever exchange) account,
3)   Create a trading API for your account
4)   Provide me with the API which will be plugged into my quant bot
5)   If you works for you, send me a tip

With a proposal like that, no one would have suspected you of attempting to run off with their funds, no one would have called you a liar, no one would have anything with which to tarnish your reputation.

If you actually had a quantbot that works (still a big if, because I think you’re a liar) you would have had people tripping over each other lining up for your service.  Once you’ve gotten it established that’s when you can change the structure and start charging for your service.  A subscription or some sort of arrangement that leaves the user in control of their own funds.  Honesty, openness, transparency is essential when starting a new service in the crypto sphere.  Anyone who’s been around crypto for just a few months should understand that.

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September 16, 2019, 05:02:51 PM
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I meant the actual API key of the account you let ran for 20 MONTHS+.

The API in your OP only lists a couple of garbage trades.

It doesn't list any of the trades you posted in your JSON file for everyone to download.

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Code:
[ { account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    currency: 'XBt',
    timestamp: '2019-09-16T17:00:01.063Z',
    currentQty: 0,
    markPrice: null,
    liquidationPrice: null,
    avgEntryPrice: null } ]
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-03T16:12:28.151Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 1,
    side: 'Sell',
    price: 10666 },
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-03T16:12:38.850Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 1,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10666.5 },
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-03T20:37:32.192Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 14,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10700 },
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-03T20:55:07.727Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 14,
    side: 'Sell',
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T08:52:18.108Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 23,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10609 },
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T09:06:34.734Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 23,
    side: 'Sell',
    price: 10627.5 },
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T09:17:40.076Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 23,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10593 },
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
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    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 23,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10578 },
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T09:32:58.047Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 48,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10558 },
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T10:12:11.086Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 102,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10527 },
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T10:20:26.016Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 102,
    side: 'Sell',
    price: 10568 },
  { orderID: '364f28ab-3e9d-c1d6-212d-b505804b62a0',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T10:21:32.063Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 48,
    side: 'Sell',
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  { orderID: 'db81ebb3-46ad-dd4d-8a6d-23a5b7264797',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T10:21:36.066Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 23,
    side: 'Sell',
    price: 10594 },
  { orderID: 'a6734120-24c5-78e4-0393-694715f9f2da',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T10:21:40.877Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 23,
    side: 'Sell',
    price: 10610 },
  { orderID: '8e411ef7-f882-eec5-81cf-049a48424bdb',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-06T10:36:12.053Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 29,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10773 },
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-06T10:38:51.965Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 30,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10761 },
  { orderID: '8b725b39-29fb-9436-45d2-0fc38bd8f08f',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-06T10:48:40.232Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 30,
    side: 'Sell',
    price: 10787 },
  { orderID: '05a73a5f-ac94-83f2-9fab-725d85448ffc',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-06T10:54:05.993Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 29,
    side: 'Sell',
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-07T12:09:44.351Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 31,
    side: 'Buy',
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-07T12:55:17.607Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 32,
    side: 'Buy',
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Shit. You made a 698$ trade, with 3$ profit! Better watch out!

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September 16, 2019, 05:05:35 PM
Last edit: September 16, 2019, 05:24:42 PM by CryptoSparks
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@CryptoSparks

If this service that you’re offering is truly legitimate, it’s only suffering as a result of your attitude.  If you had approached the forum community with humility instead of hubris, honesty instead of deceit, generosity instead of greed you may have actually made something of this service you’re offering.

If I was to offer a service such as this I would have proposed the following:
1)   Don’t send me any money.
2)   Send the funds to your own bitmex (or whatever exchange) account,
3)   Create a trading API for your account
4)   Provide me with the API which will be plugged into my quant bot
5)   If you works for you, send me a tip

With a proposal like that, no one would have suspected you of attempting to run off with their funds, no one would have called you a liar, no one would have anything with which to tarnish your reputation.

If you actually had a quantbot that works (still a big if, because I think you’re a liar) you would have had people tripping over each other lining up for your service.  Once you’ve gotten it established that’s when you can change the structure and start charging for your service.  A subscription or some sort of arrangement that leaves the user in control of their own funds.  Honesty, openness, transparency is essential when starting a new service in the crypto sphere.  Anyone who’s been around crypto for just a few months should understand that.


Does this sound familiar to you? ( Right on my thread)




I meant the actual API key of the account you let ran for 20 MONTHS+.

The API in your OP only lists a couple of garbage trades.

It doesn't list any of the trades you posted in your JSON file for everyone to download.

...


Code:
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Shit. You made a 698$ trade! Better watch out!
Better attack, finally you digged into some data before posting! That's how i like you!  Grin

I think is pretty obvious though that if we officially launched the bot this month, you can't expect api access to data prior the launch! The stats and trade history data saved in json are result of the backtest engine which has 1m candle sensibility.  You may say that bugs in the backtest engine can false the result, but each backest is divided in checkpoints were the accuracy of the backtest is easily verifiable.

I don't know why you are joking about the 700$ trades honestly... try doing it winning 580 times out of 600 without you doing anything and without stress. Utopia for you guys, but for me and my members is not.

Furthermore you are missing the key, which is ROI %. Ofcourse if the demo account has low balance the actual usd per trade earned is not much.
Data speak laud.

WINS: 24      LOSSES: 0    ROI: +9.7%

Since 3rd september 2019.

If that's 10$ or 10000$ depends on client's bankroll

Funny how yesterday 500% roi was unthinkable but today is low. Make peace with your brain

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I think is pretty obvious though that if we officially launched the bot this month, you can't expect api access to data prior the launch! The stats and trade history data saved in json are result of the backtest engine which has 1m candle sensibility.  You may say that bugs in the backtest engine can false the result, but each backest is divided in checpoints were the accuracy of the backtest is easily verifiable.

Okay; Translation: "I don't have verifiable API data for the .JSON files i put out".
(Which is total bullshit obviously, you could’ve simply recreated another read api for your “other” (nonexistent Tongue) bitmex account.)
That is if you actually made the trades ofcourse, which you now claim you didnt?
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You may say that bugs in the backtest engine can false the result, but each backest is divided in checpoints were the accuracy of the backtest is easily verifiable.
You know what.

You're right. I'll admit: I'm too dumb for this. You win with all your sophisticated backengines, apis, backtest back back back, checkpoints, chekc check dividinedne.

Obviously there would be no third party api read access to all those things.. Waaaay too sophisticated  Roll Eyes. I totally get it.



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I don't know why you are joking about the 700$ trades honestly... try doing it winning 580 times out of 600 without you doing anything and without stress. Utopia for you guys, but for me and my members is not.

Furthermore you are missing the key, which is ROI %. Ofcourse if the demo account has low balance the actual usd per trade earned is not much.

the demo account api has an N=55,, it is not proof of anything, let alone of a stable ROI, or, any ROI at all that isn't based on 100% luck. (the actually n={x} is more like 8 if we only count 100$+ trades)

So, that's all that's verifiable.. or, rather, what you "want" to "verify". Keep referring to your imaginary track record.

I'm done here. There's nothing left to discuss.


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Data speak laud.
you mean the 50 verifiable trades you showed us?

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Obviously there would be no third party api read access to all those things.. Waaaay to sophisticated  Roll Eyes.


Oh so somohow you want api access to my computer and development software? ahahah why don't you count to 10 before writing something!




the demo account api has an N=55,, it is not proof of anything, let alone of a stable ROI, or, any ROI at all that isn't based on 100% luck. (the actually n={x} is more like 8 if we only count 100$+ trades)

So, that's all that's verifiable.. or, rather, what you "want" to "verify".

I'm done here. This said it all.



Yup you right, 24 wins in a row that perfectly match the stats of over 500 trades in backtest of 0.5% avg win as coincidence can't be anything else than luck.
Also is still clear you don't know how a market maker makes money!  Grin


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(Which is total bullshit obviously, you could’ve simply recreated another read api for your “other” (nonexistent Tongue) bitmex account.

You are the only one that never understand even a tiny bit.  Let me try again:
You can't access the backtest trades via API because, guess what, they are BACKTESTS. It mean the bot didn't existed during that period of time.
This proves you don't even understand what a backtest engine is. Please leave and take your ignorance out of this thread once for all


Can anybody else that is reading this say what they think? This thread has 600 views and is just me roasting the same 4 users over and over again

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Well, I would say that if someone accused you of being a scammer or spammer (no matter if they are newbie or legendary), you can always appeal for it and present your evidences. Calling high rank members as spineless is a little bit insult. I hope if you are honest about your services and can prove it, the high rank members themselves will help you out Smiley good luck!
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Obviously there would be no third party api read access to all those things.. Waaaay to sophisticated  Roll Eyes.


Oh so somohow you want api access to my computer and development software? ahahah why don't you count to 10 before writing something!




the demo account api has an N=55,, it is not proof of anything, let alone of a stable ROI, or, any ROI at all that isn't based on 100% luck. (the actually n={x} is more like 8 if we only count 100$+ trades)

So, that's all that's verifiable.. or, rather, what you "want" to "verify".

I'm done here. This said it all.



Yup you right, 24 wins in a row that perfectly match the stats of over 500 trades in backtest of 0.5% avg win as coincidence can't be anything else than luck.
Also is still clear you don't know how a market maker makes money!  Grin


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(Which is total bullshit obviously, you could’ve simply recreated another read api for your “other” (nonexistent Tongue) bitmex account.

You are the only one that never understand even a tiny bit.  Let me try again:
You can't access the backtest trades via API because, guess what, they are BACKTESTS. It mean the bot didn't existed during that period of time.
This proves you don't even understand what a backtest engine is. Please leave and take your ignorance out of this thread once for all


Can anybody else that is reading this say what they think? This thread has 600 views and is just me roasting the same 4 users over and over again

As you have witnessed, there is not the opportunity to present on topic and relevant replies. The mods will simply delete them. Welcome to meta board aka the twilight zone.
Stick around it can be fun.
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Well, I would say that if someone accused you of being a scammer or spammer (no matter if they are newbie or legendary), you can always appeal for it and present your evidences. Calling high rank members as spineless is a little bit insult. I hope if you are honest about your services and can prove it, the high rank members themselves will help you out Smiley good luck!
You are right. The problem is not the Rank, is the power of superficiality that some users obtain with high ranks, thinking to know everything about anything.

Out of the 5 roasted legendaries in this thread, only suchmoon admitted her superficially, and as soon i refused the remove her feedback she started attacking again.  Grin

My replies are aggressive because i have to debunk the same accusation over and over again, but that doesn't seem to work since i keep receiving feedbacks like
"Don't send btc to this scammer" while the whole business model is based on us actually NOT receiving any funds.


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"Don't send btc to this scammer" while the whole business model is based on us actually NOT receiving any funds.

You're receiving the API key, which according to you can "act as a private key". Make up your mind.
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My replies are aggressive because i have to debunk the same accusation over and over again, but that doesn't seem to work since i keep receiving feedbacks like
"Don't send btc to this scammer" while the whole business model is based on us actually NOT receiving any funds.


1. Lender as service provider:

Lend us UP to 5BTC with 10% monthly payback + 5% monthly interest.
We can give API access + EMAIL +PASSWORD of the trading account managing the funds as collateral so you can always keep an eye on the funds.
This results in almost 30% risk free profit for the lender. 2 year of data shows the bot can easily handle the interest rate, please download and check for yourself.

Contradict yourself much?  Maybe I should ask if there was ever a time when you didn't contradict yourself...  You continue to lie, and the evidence is plastered across the forum.

And we all know why your replies are aggressive; it's because you have no intellect with which to argue rationally.  You claim to be this trading and programming guru, yet have demonstrated that you don't know shit about trading or programming.   You claim your auto-trading bot that you probably hijacked off of github is a quant, but that's just some buzz word you learned.  You wouldn't know a quant if it bit you in the ass.  And somehow you've convinced yourself in your pathetic fantasy world that you're roasting us, right?  

Well I've got news for you buddy, you're a cunt, not a quant, and you've been exposed.

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 #73

"Don't send btc to this scammer" while the whole business model is based on us actually NOT receiving any funds.

You're receiving the API key, which according to you can "act as a private key". Make up your mind.

Since i spent a lot of time on this API key war with you, i thought to create an exhaustive guide that hopefully will, once and for all, make you understand and will also add value to the forum.


1. WHAT is an API KEY
2. HOW can be used in trading
3. WHY everyone, regardless of the trading strategies, should always have one enabled
4. Step by Step guide on how to create one for Bitmex as example

[FULL GUIDE] API KEY - WHAT is it , WHY you need it and HOW to create one

I'm giving you and you only one last chance to admit that i was right, and that there are no ways we can steal the client's funds.
If you do it here and change my feedback to positive o neutral  i will do the exact same thing

My replies are aggressive because i have to debunk the same accusation over and over again, but that doesn't seem to work since i keep receiving feedbacks like
"Don't send btc to this scammer" while the whole business model is based on us actually NOT receiving any funds.


1. Lender as service provider:

Lend us UP to 5BTC with 10% monthly payback + 5% monthly interest.
We can give API access + EMAIL +PASSWORD of the trading account managing the funds as collateral so you can always keep an eye on the funds.
This results in almost 30% risk free profit for the lender. 2 year of data shows the bot can easily handle the interest rate, please download and check for yourself.

Contradict yourself much?  Maybe I should ask if there was ever a time when you didn't contradict yourself...  You continue to lie, and the evidence is plastered across the forum.

And we all know why your replies are aggressive; it's because you have no intellect with which to argue rationally.  You claim to be this trading and programming guru, yet have demonstrated that you don't know shit about trading or programming.   You claim your auto-trading bot that you probably hijacked off of github is a quant, but that's just some buzz word you learned.  You wouldn't know a quant if it bit you in the ass.  And somehow you've convinced yourself in your pathetic fantasy world that you're roasting us, right?  

Well I've got news for you buddy, you're a cunt, not a quant, and you've been exposed.

There are 2 options:
You are either fully retarded or, most likely, you are driven by other interests so you pretend not to understand.

Also, i don't claim nothing more than the data and stats displayed in my thread. It doesn't take a genius to understand many of the basics stuff i explained you, may that be coding references or market behaviors. if you are intellectually unable to understand them is not a my problem and surely doesn't make me a guru. The part that you partially quoted out of context was a partnership offer for lenders, very different than our business model. If anyone is curious to know at what i was referring please check the thread but we no longer offer that deal.

I let everyone decide if a user that leaves a feedback like this:



did even bother reading the first lines of our business proposition









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I'm giving you and you only one last chance to admit that i was right, and that there are no ways we can steal the client's funds.
If you do it here and change my feedback to positive o neutral  i will do the exact same thing

You are 100% absolutely wrong to claim that an API key can act as a Bitcoin private key. You can keep fucking around with your entitled rants if you want, that's not gonna change a thing as far as my feedback is concerned. I'll check back in a year or so to see if you've grown up. Have a good one.
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I'm giving you and you only one last chance to admit that i was right, and that there are no ways we can steal the client's funds.
If you do it here and change my feedback to positive o neutral  i will do the exact same thing

You are 100% absolutely wrong to claim that an API key can act as a Bitcoin private key. You can keep fucking around with your entitled rants if you want, that's not gonna change a thing as far as my feedback is concerned. I'll check back in a year or so to see if you've grown up. Have a good one.
If im wrong than wikipedia is wrong too.
Even in front of evidence you keep denying  Grin Grin

An api key can be anything, if you generate a "private api key" of an online wallet service that can act as private key as long it's enabled. A bitcoin private key is nothing else than a way to authenticate you as the owner of that wallet. An api key with full privileges (aka private api key) authenticates you as the owner of the account controlling the funds. Now why should be wrong to say that an api key can act a private key? it seems that you don't get the fact tha api keys are modular tools and can be shaped at will.

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An application programming interface key (API key) is a unique string of alphanumeric characters transmitted as part of an API request that authenticate the source of the API request. API keys can be of two types: Public API key and Private API key.
The API key often acts as both a unique identifier and a secret token for authentication, and will generally have a set of access rights on the API associated with it.
WIKIPEDIA



In very simple words, an API key identifies you on the service platform that generated the key. (instead of using email and password uses the key to log in)
An API key can be anything and do anything, simply because it depends on what kind of API generated it, but usually is used for remote access and data tracking.

Likewise crypto wallets, there are public and private API keys with the difference that API keys are more like tools that adapt based on your needs.
For example, if you want to give access at others to selected data/privileges, you simply need to create a Public API Key which authenticates them to access your account and do nothing more than what you allowed. On the contrary, if you want to give full privileges and access to all data , you would create a Private API Key, which of course should be for your use only.

Another important difference is that API KEYS can be disabled and enabled at will, which is something very handy.



API KEYS IN TRADING:

API Keys are very handy when trading, even if you are still trading in frontend, and know nothing about programming, you should always have a private key enabled and stored securely offline, just in case anything bad happens to the frontend of the exchange and you urgently need to entry/exit a trade or even worst you locked yourself out... having the API Key allows you to have a way back in the account via terminal.

Usually exchanges offer the following privileges settings for API Keys:
- Order ( you can create and cancel orders via key)
- Cancel (you can only cancel orders via key)
- ReadOnly ( you can only read unencrypted data, such as balance/trade history/orders/markets data via key but you can't interact with any)
- Withdraw ( you can send a withdrawal request which still needs to be confirmed via email)
- CIDR (useful for ip filtering , read more here)

API KEYS are also commonly used by big Brokers, Hedge Funds and Quant Shops to safely manage their clients' capitals.



How is it possible that a whole forum is watching 2 people fight over what should be a very basic concept , yet after DAYS,  truth is yet to be accepted?

If in 24 hours no geek comes here to confirm that what i'm saying is 100% true, it means that the only users left in this cemetery are trolls, scammers and bounty hunters

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An api key can be anything, if you generate a "private api key" of an online wallet service that can act as private key as long it's enabled. A bitcoin private key is nothing else than a way to authenticate you as the owner of that wallet. An api key with full privileges (aka private api key) authenticates you as the owner of the account controlling the funds. Now why should be wrong to say that an api key can act a private key? it seems that you don't get the fact tha api keys are modular tools and can be shaped at will.

Oh dear. You seem to think that Bitcoin is some website where you stick your private key in and get authenticated as the "as the owner of that wallet".

Can you use the API key to control your funds without using the website that issued the key? Does the API key allow you to receive/spend funds offline (cold wallet)? Can you use the API key to sign a transaction and put it on a public ledger where anyone can verify it?

Just a few basic features of a Bitcoin private key off the top of my head. I'm sure you can find more on Wikipedia.
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An api key can be anything, if you generate a "private api key" of an online wallet service that can act as private key as long it's enabled. A bitcoin private key is nothing else than a way to authenticate you as the owner of that wallet. An api key with full privileges (aka private api key) authenticates you as the owner of the account controlling the funds. Now why should be wrong to say that an api key can act a private key? it seems that you don't get the fact tha api keys are modular tools and can be shaped at will.

Oh dear. You seem to think that Bitcoin is some website where you stick your private key in and get authenticated as the "as the owner of that wallet".

Can you use the API key to control your funds without using the website that issued the key? Does the API key allow you to receive/spend funds offline (cold wallet)? Can you use the API key to sign a transaction and put it on a public ledger where anyone can verify it?

Just a few basic features of a Bitcoin private key off the top of my head. I'm sure you can find more on Wikipedia.
What you do after the being authenticated depends on what service/tool you are using.

Of course a private key let you do different things than an api key of an exchange, but some of them are in common, that's why i keep saying that can act as.

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Can you use the API key to control your funds without using the website that issued the key?

BLOODY YES ! That's the fucking point you don't get. you can access every function of a service via any computer terminal without the need of using the website. What kind of functions you can access is based on the api key privileges.


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Can you use the API key to control your funds without using the website that issued the key?

BLOODY YES ! That's the fucking point you don't get. you can access every function of a service via any computer terminal without the need of using the website. What kind of functions you can access is based on the api key privileges.

What I mean - can you use the API key if Bitmex (or whoever issued the key) is down? Your "terminal" still needs a server to connect to. Funny how the only definition of "website" that comes to your mind is the clicky-tappy one.

What you do after the being authenticated depends on what service/tool you are using.

If the "service" is kind enough to allow you to do that with the money they hold for you. Pretty much the opposite of what Bitcoin is - being your own bank

Of course a private key let you do different things than an api key of an exchange, but some of them are in common, that's why i keep saying that can act as.

An API key "can act" as a Bitcoin private key the same way like a rock "can act" as a computer as long as you use them as doorstops.
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What you do after the being authenticated depends on what service/tool you are using.

Of course a private key let you do different things than an api key of an exchange, but some of them are in common, that's why i keep saying that can act as.

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Can you use the API key to control your funds without using the website that issued the key?

BLOODY YES ! That's the fucking point you don't get. you can access every function of a service via any computer terminal without the need of using the website. What kind of functions you can access is based on the api key privileges.


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How exactly do you think an API key interacts with the wallet the funds are actually stored on? You think there's some magic connection between the two? No. The website in question establishes that connection.

How exactly do you think an API key interacts with the wallet? It passes down a function for the wallet to perform. It doesn't substitute ANY of the wallet functionality (eg the private key transaction signing.)
To say that they have the same functionality is just stupid and ignorant.


Not to mention that Bitmex withdrawals are manually reviewed, so even a working api key is no garantuee for your funds. (Not that that was the main point).





Anyways...

You lied about your 495% returns. Case closed. "iT wAs JuSt BaCkTesTinG"

Your provided an API key to us with a couple of dummy trades because you think we're stupid? Or.. do you actually think anyone believes... the... backtesting? you sure don't mention it in your pretty infograph.


This is just misleading. If this was an actual business operation, it would likely be seen as fraud. You have NO proof of any of these returns. You implicating that the api key proves any of these returns is also false = misleading.

Really, looking at this image where you try to pass these imaginary results as legit i can only classify you as a troll




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Can you use the API key to control your funds without using the website that issued the key?

BLOODY YES ! That's the fucking point you don't get. you can access every function of a service via any computer terminal without the need of using the website. What kind of functions you can access is based on the api key privileges.

What I mean - can you use the API key if Bitmex (or whoever issued the key) is down? Your "terminal" still needs a server to connect to. Funny how the only definition of "website" that comes to your mind is the clicky-tappy one.

What you do after the being authenticated depends on what service/tool you are using.

If the "service" is kind enough to allow you to do that with the money they hold for you. Pretty much the opposite of what Bitcoin is - being your own bank

Of course a private key let you do different things than an api key of an exchange, but some of them are in common, that's why i keep saying that can act as.

An API key "can act" as a Bitcoin private key the same way like a rock "can act" as a computer as long as you use them as doorstops.



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What I mean - can you use the API key if Bitmex (or whoever issued the key) is down? Your "terminal" still needs a server to connect to. Funny how the only definition of "website" that comes to your mind is the clicky-tappy one.
Here it's again that arrogant attitude while lacking knowledge. this is the only reason why i keep replying.

Clearly you also don't know the difference between a website (the clicky-tappy one, also called frontend ) and an Application Programming Interface (API) which is what actually manages the client/server requests.
You will be shockingly surprised to discover that a frontend can go down while the API are still fully functional!
This is why a private api key can be useful in accessing accounts when frontend is not available.

FUN FACT: ALL bitmex's fronted runs via the same api requests...meaning that frontend is only linking the API with an UI

And yet again i repeat, an API key is an authentication tool that based on the service can do basically anything.... even ACT AS A PRIVATE KEY.

But hey, throw up a couple more famous bitcoin mottos that you learned as a parrot and you will feel smart again!
Meanwhile go hide under a rock once and for all. You are done here. I gave you more chances of redemption thinking that you were just superficial , instead you are just as dumb as the other 3 idiots that keep making fun of themselves in front of the whole meta section.

 




What you do after the being authenticated depends on what service/tool you are using.

Of course a private key let you do different things than an api key of an exchange, but some of them are in common, that's why i keep saying that can act as.

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Can you use the API key to control your funds without using the website that issued the key?

BLOODY YES ! That's the fucking point you don't get. you can access every function of a service via any computer terminal without the need of using the website. What kind of functions you can access is based on the api key privileges.


...
...
...

How exactly do you think an API key interacts with the wallet the funds are actually stored on? You think there's some magic connection between the two? No. The website in question establishes that connection.

How exactly do you think an API key interacts with the wallet? It passes down a function for the wallet to perform. It doesn't substitute ANY of the wallet functionality (eg the private key transaction signing.)
To say that they have the same functionality is just stupid and ignorant.


Not to mention that Bitmex withdrawals are manually reviewed, so even a working api key is no garantuee for your funds. (Not that that was the main point).





Anyways...

You lied about your 495% returns. Case closed. "iT wAs JuSt BaCkTesTinG"

Your provided an API key to us with a couple of dummy trades because you think we're stupid? Or.. do you actually think anyone believes... the... backtesting? you sure don't mention it in your pretty infograph.


This is just misleading. If this was an actual business operation, it would likely be seen as fraud. You have NO proof of any of these returns. You implicating that the api key proves any of these returns is also false = misleading.

Really, looking at this image where you try to pass these imaginary results as legit i can only classify you as a troll





Haven't you proved already not to know what backtests are? how dare you even mentioning that word without understanding how powerful a backtest engine, with 1minute candle sensibility, can be when developing trading strategies and money managements?

Also is not misleading, that stats are 100% accurate to the minute and stake involved even though is obviously a slightly less valuable evidence than the almost 30trades that you can see via api key.. furthermore is clearly written that via api access you can access all trades history since the official launch, which was a couple weeks ago. 24 winning trades in a row and 10% roi is right on track with the backtest data.

I can't imagine the attacks i would have received if there was a loss in these first couple weeks.... you guys dared attacking a 100% win rate and a bulletproof business model  Grin Grin







BTW approaching 1000 views , i guess meta is appreciating the savage roasting in silence like a horror movie Grin Grin

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And yet again i repeat, an API key is an authentication tool that based on the service can do basically anything.... even ACT AS A PRIVATE KEY.

Ok, I give up. Here is my API key:

Code:
{"apiKey":"c1a5024fae744205927381ce0a79dc95","secretKey":"4f9936217c0fe1e5e8b2f7b93ddc8e362e3480e6bb27dd1db2b4861d5a598c57"}

Since it can act as a private key I'm sure you'll be able to take my bitcoins.
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And yet again i repeat, an API key is an authentication tool that based on the service can do basically anything.... even ACT AS A PRIVATE KEY.

Ok, I give up. Here is my API key:

Code:
{"apiKey":"c1a5024fae744205927381ce0a79dc95","secretKey":"4f9936217c0fe1e5e8b2f7b93ddc8e362e3480e6bb27dd1db2b4861d5a598c57"}

Since it can act as a private key I'm sure you'll be able to take my bitcoins.

Can you please read the thread i made for you ?  Kiss
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185826

I quote again

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An application programming interface key (API key) is a unique string of alphanumeric characters transmitted as part of an API request that authenticate the source of the API request. API keys can be of two types: Public API key and Private API key.
The API key often acts as both a unique identifier and a secret token for authentication, and will generally have a set of access rights on the API associated with it.
WIKIPEDIA



In very simple words, an API key identifies you on the service platform that generated the key. (instead of using email and password uses the key to log in)
An API key can be anything and do anything, simply because it depends on what kind of API generated it, but usually is used for remote access and data tracking.

Likewise crypto wallets, there are public and private API keys with the difference that API keys are more like tools that adapt based on your needs.
For example, if you want to give access at others to selected data/privileges, you simply need to create a Public API Key which authenticates them to access your account and do nothing more than what you allowed. On the contrary, if you want to give full privileges and access to all data , you would create a Private API Key, which of course should be for your use only.

Another important difference is that API KEYS can be disabled and enabled at will, which is something very handy.



API KEYS IN TRADING:

API Keys are very handy when trading, even if you are still trading in frontend, and know nothing about programming, you should always have a private key enabled and stored securely offline, just in case anything bad happens to the frontend of the exchange and you urgently need to entry/exit a trade or even worst you locked yourself out... having the API Key allows you to have a way back in the account via terminal.

Usually exchanges offer the following privileges settings for API Keys:
- Order ( you can create and cancel orders via key)
- Cancel (you can only cancel orders via key)
- ReadOnly ( you can only read unencrypted data, such as balance/trade history/orders/markets data via key but you can't interact with any)
- Withdraw ( you can send a withdrawal request which still needs to be confirmed via email)
- CIDR (useful for ip filtering , read more here)

API KEYS are also commonly used by big Brokers, Hedge Funds and Quant Shops to safely manage their clients' capitals.


The only way that key can act as a private key is if you enabled the withdraw. At that point you can send a withdrawal request and confirm it via email.

So i can't steal your bitcoins as i can't steal our client's bitcoin. What i can do is safely link our bot to your account as long as that api key has access to order creation


I challenge you and the other trolls to deposit at least 100$ on that account and then let our bot manage it for 30 days. I will personally pay your vps. After 30 days you post your opinion again-

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And yet again i repeat, an API key is an authentication tool that based on the service can do basically anything.... even ACT AS A PRIVATE KEY.

Ok, I give up. Here is my API key:

Code:
{"apiKey":"c1a5024fae744205927381ce0a79dc95","secretKey":"4f9936217c0fe1e5e8b2f7b93ddc8e362e3480e6bb27dd1db2b4861d5a598c57"}

Since it can act as a private key I'm sure you'll be able to take my bitcoins.

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Hmm... the coins are still there. The API key has been posted publicly 15 minutes ago. It's almost as if it can't really act as a private key. Let's give it 24 hours and see if someone can figure out this mystery.
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And yet again i repeat, an API key is an authentication tool that based on the service can do basically anything.... even ACT AS A PRIVATE KEY.

Ok, I give up. Here is my API key:

Code:
{"apiKey":"c1a5024fae744205927381ce0a79dc95","secretKey":"4f9936217c0fe1e5e8b2f7b93ddc8e362e3480e6bb27dd1db2b4861d5a598c57"}

Since it can act as a private key I'm sure you'll be able to take my bitcoins.

~

Hmm... the coins are still there. The API key has been posted publicly 15 minutes ago. It's almost as if it can't really act as a private key. Let's give it 24 hours and see if someone can figure out this mystery.

AHAHA Dumb Lady stop making fun of yourself.
here's your thought " ummm... Since an API key can be shaped in any tool... how smart would it be if i shape the api key in a tool that technically can't act as an private key to debunk the fact that it actually can act as it simply because of its modularity?"  


Fucking hilarious Grin Grin Grin

Share also the email account and the password to access it. Enable the withdraw privileges . Let's see if your BTC are still there.. Why? because the api key would act as a private key.  Roll Eyes

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Share also the email account and the password to access it. Enable the withdraw privileges . Let's see if your BTC are still there.. Why? because the api key would act as a private key.  Roll Eyes

Right, and you would act as an honest person if you weren't a liar. Neither has any chance of happening.

I think I have exhausted my options here, not that it wasn't clear 4 pages ago.
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Share also the email account and the password to access it. Enable the withdraw privileges . Let's see if your BTC are still there.. Why? because the api key would act as a private key.  Roll Eyes

Right, and you would act as an honest person if you weren't a liar. Neither has any chance of happening.

I think I have exhausted my options to here, not that it wasn't clear 4 pages ago.

You exhausted your options 4 pages ago and you should have stopped, you only exposed yourself more. Thanks for the show, you know where to find me in case you want some more roasting, i know you like it  Kiss

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So.. someone offering an "herpy derpy super duper AI trading bot" with minimal investment of 1000$ and guaranteed profit with almost 0 technical knowledge turned out to be a scammer ?
He seemed so trustworthy with his illogical statement of "more people using same strategy means more profit for everyone".

I am speechless  Roll Eyes

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So.. someone offering an "herpy derpy super duper AI trading bot" with minimal investment of 1000$ and guaranteed profit with almost 0 technical knowledge turned out to be a scammer ?
He seemed so trustworthy with his illogical statement of "more people using same strategy means more profit for everyone".

I am speechless  Roll Eyes

I was waiting for you bob!! My first personal troll, where have you been ? missed you


As always you can write 1 sentence and get everything wrong  Grin Grin


1. minimal investment is 100$ and we now also pay the first month of vps . NO ENTRY BARRIER. PLUG AND EARN
2. this thread, which you didn't read, proved that at least i know what i'm talking about in all areas surrounding our business.
3. yup i totally exposed my bulletproof business model and the 24 winning trades in a row since the first day of launch and the almost 600 win in 20 months of backtesting.
4. read this to know who bob is
5. read the onepager to understand why no scammer or troll will ever be able to stop Arakne




5. this is the first and only review posted on bitcointalk by who actually tested the service:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184519.msg52462616#msg52462616

You should move that mirror out of the way then

Really?  Is that the "roasting" I was promised?  You're gonna have to do better than that, son.

While I have your attention, riddle me this:  Why is a quantitative trading programmer begging for money here in the bitcointalk lending board?  The ones I know started earning $125k right out of college, with no real-world experience.  The good ones can earn half a million or more with bonuses.  Something isn't adding up.

And by the way; a vouch from your scammy alt isn't helping your case.  Just an FYI.

False accusation here.

Yes looks like someone is throwing the stone and hiding the hand. He deleted most of his posts. Thanks DireWolfM14, have been a pleasure. I add you to my roasted list, but remember that what happens on the internet stays on the internet. I'm collapsing my replies in a single post so he can't do anything to delete them reporting to a moderator as non-legit ups! There are so many little tricks going on this forum....
I genuinely think it is unfair for the DT people to give u red trust. For what it is worth here are my results of using the Arakne Bot since 2 september 2019.



Edit: I was also very skeptical about this invetsment at first. Now I have daily contact with this user and I trust him with managing my funds on Bitmex. Also he has only API key for trading, not for WITHDRAW.

I think calling this user a PONZI owner is very strange because the funds never are fully in his control or away from bitmex. Anyway there is never a guarantee of profit, but is based on future predictions which have been turning out quite well. I have 100% winrate as of now with his trading algo.




Keep hating losers, because we will keep grinding profit. The only ones that pretend not to understand are always the same 4 users and now we have bob back!
You won't find any weakness in Arakne because a coder's mind is shaped on building with the obsession of exploitable weaknesses.

I roasted all 5 of you by myself with the help of data and your ignorance, imagine in the next weeks when tons of new positive feedbacks will pop out by the people who actually tested the product after discovering thanks to your FUD in this thread.  Grin Looks like my marketing skills are improving  Grin Grin


I will give you an advice, your only weapon against us is hoping that the bot turns into dogshit. Sadly for you we started with 100% win rate and +10% ROI in the first 2 weeks!

So keep stalking my thread, waiting for a loss that will eventually come, but guess what? i will post the loss the way i posted the 24 wins. simply because we have nothing to hide and losses are part of the games. With 10% already up when the loss will come we will probably still be in big profit.  Grin Grin

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I challenge you and the other trolls to deposit at least 100$ on that account and then let our bot manage it for 30 days. I will personally pay your vps. After 30 days you post your opinion again-

Lols, I imagine a thief in court defending himself:
"Your honor, If I don't steal your wallet in the next two minutes it proves I'm not a thief and I should be released".

If you want a challenge, you consider yourself such an expert and you're so sure of yourself then:

- You deposit $500 with a trusted escrow on the forum which will hold the funds of one month.
- After the deposit is confirmed, I deposit 100$ on your so-called money making machine

After 30 days:
- If the bot has made profits, you keep them all, I get my initial deposit back and you get back you escrowed money.
- If the bot fails and loses money, you run away, etc etc, I get whatever is left (there if any) and the 500$ escrow funds.

Fair?


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September 20, 2019, 08:49:07 AM
Last edit: September 20, 2019, 08:59:20 AM by CryptoSparks
 #90

I challenge you and the other trolls to deposit at least 100$ on that account and then let our bot manage it for 30 days. I will personally pay your vps. After 30 days you post your opinion again-

Lols, I imagine a thief in court defending himself:
"Your honor, If I don't steal your wallet in the next two minutes it proves I'm not a thief and I should be released".

If you want a challenge, you consider yourself such an expert and you're so sure of yourself then:

- You deposit $500 with a trusted escrow on the forum which will hold the funds of one month.
- After the deposit is confirmed, I deposit 100$ on your so-called money making machine

After 30 days:
- If the bot has made profits, you keep them all, I get my initial deposit back and you get back you escrowed money.
- If the bot fails and loses money, you run away, etc etc, I get whatever is left (there if any) and the 500$ escrow funds.

Fair?





FINALLY a new poster, even though is yet another ChipMixer's Legendary   Tongue (how do they pick them i wonder?  Grin)

Your metaphor doesn't stand simply because is technically impossible to steal via a public api key without withdraw privileges. this is a fact that stays true now , in 2 minutes from now and until forever.

I see your abdicated mindset of dealing on this forum with escrows, while by simply using the tech available you can create a sustainable ecosystem that doesn't require any trust  to be fully functional and anti-scam.

i guess dumb people have to eat some how, an example is the lending section.
Why would you put 150% as collateral to have 100% loan with up 20% monthly interest. I keep my 150% at that point  Grin Those are the real scammers! I live in Italy, mafia here has better pricing  Grin Then you can see them yelling bitcoin's "free world, fuck banks" mottos while they build entire business on behaving worst than the worst scumbag of a bank or criminal


So to answer your idiot proposal:
Basically you built a loop from which you earn nothing if i'm legit.

Save yourself the hassle and just open your terminal window once in a while.
connect to our bitmex mainet open account with the following API KEY:

Code:
ID: _rbjC_vOwJBRupytRPo7nxYI  SECRET: V8AU7GvMLSry4mpKnKD1Bu8PBuYpLZx88dfn40Nkq1Dm59GE
and check for youself what are the performance since the official launch and until forever.

You will come up with the same result. 0 earning and me being legit while without having to trust one of your scammy friends to hold 500%( Grin) as collateral .. You guys really like the power to access the funds uh?   Grin Grin

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September 20, 2019, 08:59:14 AM
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Those are the real scammers! I'm Italian, mafia here has better pricing  Grin

Then go and get a loan from the mafia.
Your bot does make guaranteed profit, right?
So why not take a loan of a huge ton of money and get rich fast. You said more people/money adapting your strategy means more profit for everyone, right ?

That's the fastest way for you to profit and get rich.
I don't get why you are arguing here on this forum for people to invest 100$, if you can get money more easily for a better rate.

Your time seems too valuable to be wasted on this forum  Wink

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So to answer your idiot proposal:
Basically you build a loop from which you earn nothing if i'm legit.

Exactly, it is normal that I shouldn't make any money since my assumption that you were a scammer is going to be proved wrong. Unlike scammers here I'm not interested in making money out of anything.

BUT, my dear CHS
If you're NOT legit you're going to lose at least 400$ and I'm going to make 400$ which I will donate via raffles to people active in the scam accusation board.
By my Friday morning, half a cup of coffee standards sounds about right.

So, I assume you're not going to make this experiment? Or you can't afford even 500$? Then I'll give you a promo code.
Reply with the code "APIKYNOPRIVKEY", and we will make the deal for 499 only!
Limited time offer only!

You will come up with the same result. 0 earning and me being legit while without having to trust one of your scammy friends to hold 500%( Grin) as collateral .. You guys really like the power to access the funds uh?   Grin Grin

We will, of course, give you an API key... Grin Grin

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September 20, 2019, 09:02:39 AM
Last edit: September 20, 2019, 09:33:48 AM by CryptoSparks
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So to answer your idiot proposal:
Basically you build a loop from which you earn nothing if i'm legit.

Exactly, it is normal that I shouldn't make any money since my assumption that you were a scammer is going to be proved wrong. Unlike scammers here I'm not interested in making money out of anything.

BUT, my dear CHS
If you're NOT legit you're going to lose at least 400$ and I'm going to make 400$ which I will donate via raffles to people active in the scam accusation board.
By my Friday morning, half a cup of coffee standards sounds about right.

So, I assume you're not going to make this experiment? Or you can't afford even 500$? Then I'll give you a promo code.
Reply with the code "APIKYNOPRIVKEY", and we will make the deal for 499 only!
Limited time offer only!



Are you acting dumb? because your loop is. a perfect loop incentivize all parties involved.

I can achieve the same result as your experiment without risking of getting scammed.

I will later add you to the OP list, thanks for passing by


Those are the real scammers! I'm Italian, mafia here has better pricing  Grin

Then go and get a loan from the mafia.
Your bot does make guaranteed profit, right?
So why not take a loan of a huge ton of money and get rich fast. You said more people/money adapting your strategy means more profit for everyone, right ?

That's the fastest way for you to profit and get rich.
I don't get why you are arguing here on this forum for people to invest 100$, if you can get money more easily for a better rate.

Your time seems too valuable to be wasted on this forum  Wink

The partnership with lenders was a marketing experiment that needed to prove how better our business model was than actually lending us money. We would have take the risk to take up to 5btc loan at 5% monthly interest with 10% payback ALL WHILE LETTING THE LENDER KEEP CONTROL OF FUNDS VIA EMAIL+PASS+API KEY of the bitmex account. That would have exposed us to lenders locking us out of the account or leaving with the funds and profit.  This is all quite stupid so we already took back the offer a few hours later.

The min 100 $ is a technical math limit that the bot has for managing capitals. People that has bigger capitals usually deposit much more after the testing month.

No loan is required, actually we don't even need small fishes anymore, but i want to see you guys die slowly inside every time i post a winning trade. I get that satisfaction while also helping ton shit of legit and honest people to achieve financial freedom and earning even more bitcoins than simply keeping the bot for myself. I win in every aspect. what about you sucker?  Grin

One thing you are right, wasting too much time in here  Shocked

ps. am i wrong or i just dropped from 5 negative feedbacks to 4?  Huh   nutildah let me know if you are really seeking for redemption and i will change my feedback too!


Nevermind, it just edited to even a more stupid one. The guy is scared to even comment in here once, acting in the shadows as contagious rat.
I confirm my feedback, SPINELESS and SUPERFICIAL .






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ps. am i wrong or i just dropped from 5 negative feedbacks to 4?  Huh   nutildah let me know if you are really seeking for redemption and i will change my feedback too!


Nevermind, it just edited to even a more stupid one. The guy is scared to even comment in here once, acting in the shadows as contagious rat.

I edited it to reflect that while you may not necessarily be running a Ponzi per se, you should in no way be trusted with other peoples' funds in the manner which you are asking (as it pertains to the link I referenced in your feedback).

I'm glad you crossed out the "Lender as service provider" option in your Lending section post. That is a good step forward. Your foul attitude however brings you two steps back.

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ps. am i wrong or i just dropped from 5 negative feedbacks to 4?  Huh   nutildah let me know if you are really seeking for redemption and i will change my feedback too!


Nevermind, it just edited to even a more stupid one. The guy is scared to even comment in here once, acting in the shadows as contagious rat.

I edited it to reflect that while you may not necessarily be running a Ponzi per se, you should in no way be trusted with other peoples' funds in the manner which you are asking (as it pertains to the link I referenced in your feedback).

I'm glad you crossed out the "Lender as service provider" option in your Lending section post. That is a good step forward. Your foul attitude however brings you two steps back.

Too bad you left the feedback 6 DAYS after we already took back our offer and explained why it existed.

Too bad that you don't write in the feedback that the lender could have scammed us with the same procedure, too bad you don't write that more of a lending(who lends money and let the lender a way to control the funds?) that was a partnership request.

Too bad that you don't understand how a private api key can act as private key. Also wow, you don't say that only bitmex has their own private keys of the cold wallet where all funds are stored!!!

Instead of doing the right thing (simply remove the feedback that made you look dumb as fuck), you replaced it with another one that proves not only your stupidity but also that you are a troll in fud mode.  

Enjoy your feedback, my work speaks for me.

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Save yourself the hassle and just open your terminal window once in a while.
connect to our bitmex mainet open account with the following API KEY:

Code:
ID: _rbjC_vOwJBRupytRPo7nxYI  SECRET: V8AU7GvMLSry4mpKnKD1Bu8PBuYpLZx88dfn40Nkq1Dm59GE
and check for youself what are the performance since the official launch and until forever.

You will come up with the same result. 0 earning and me being legit while without having to trust one of your scammy friends to hold 500%( Grin) as collateral .. You guys really like the power to access the funds uh?   Grin Grin

About this;
When are you going to start trading?

You don't make any trades at all. I've been watching for days now, but i've yet to see some trades worth more than 1$.

for quantitative research, (what your bot is supposed to be based on?), one would expect a n=x of atleast "infinity  Roll Eyes", so you better get your sample size up from 35 shit trades to something that actually shows us something.

Or are you too scared to make a few trades(100000 +/- micro trades should be easily done in a few hours, right?)?
What are you waiting for.




For those interested: these are all the trades his bot made over the last few days:
Quote
{ orderID: 'd1ffd2ea-332e-5f8f-33a8-6dc2a08e955f',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-16T10:48:40.525Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 1,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10319 },
  { orderID: '5faced6f-14e0-14c8-97ad-578fbbc68c2b',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-16T10:48:50.894Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 1,
    side: 'Sell',
    price: 10318.5 },
  { orderID: '1520f30f-f8c9-a852-4ff6-e76f28ca5f04',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-19T06:05:09.183Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 1,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 9868.5 },
  { orderID: '44623017-df68-0294-adda-e6e1ddc0d35a',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-19T06:05:19.252Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 1,
    side: 'Sell',
    price: 9868 } ]

A stunning number of 4 trades. Yeah. This is big brain time. Your strategy is making 100% profit with a single dollar or something? Simply swap accounts if a bad trade is made?
Your bot can predict the market accurately 99% of the time right? What are you waiting for? Put it to work.




Boom! You just commited forgery/financial statement fraud, (California Penal Code 470, and Penal Code section 532a, C(1), if i'm not mistaken).

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&sectionNum=532a.

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ps. am i wrong or i just dropped from 5 negative feedbacks to 4?  Huh   nutildah let me know if you are really seeking for redemption and i will change my feedback too!


Nevermind, it just edited to even a more stupid one. The guy is scared to even comment in here once, acting in the shadows as contagious rat.

I edited it to reflect that while you may not necessarily be running a Ponzi per se, you should in no way be trusted with other peoples' funds in the manner which you are asking (as it pertains to the link I referenced in your feedback).

I'm glad you crossed out the "Lender as service provider" option in your Lending section post. That is a good step forward. Your foul attitude however brings you two steps back.

Too bad you left the feedback 6 DAYS after we already took back our offer and explained why it existed.

In no way should anybody be lending you money for this:

3. Miscellaneous:
We can arrange a custom deal where the lender lowers the interest rates in exchange of fixed % of monthly generated profits.

Too bad that you don't write in the feedback that the lender could have scammed us with the same procedure, too bad you don't write that more of a lending(who lends money and let the lender a way to control the funds?) that was a partnership request.

How is a lender going to scam you by taking back what is already theirs? You could also withdraw the BTC at any point and leave them hanging with no recourse. This is where the scam element lies.

Too bad that you don't understand how a private api key can act as private key.

It can't. You have a misunderstanding of what a private key actually is and you keep failing to acknowledge this.

Also wow, you don't say that only bitmex has their own private keys of the cold wallet where all funds are stored!!!

That's common knowledge and not relevant here.

Instead of doing the right thing (simply remove the feedback that made you look dumb as fuck), you replaced it with another one that proves not only your stupidity but also that you are a troll in fud mode.  

This forum has its share of people just like you. I suggest you do what they do: customize your trust list so you don't have to see the negative feedback left by others added to your trust score, and get on with your day.

Enjoy your feedback, my work speaks for me.

It sure does.

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September 20, 2019, 02:32:39 PM
Last edit: September 20, 2019, 02:49:01 PM by CryptoSparks
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Save yourself the hassle and just open your terminal window once in a while.
connect to our bitmex mainet open account with the following API KEY:

Code:
ID: _rbjC_vOwJBRupytRPo7nxYI  SECRET: V8AU7GvMLSry4mpKnKD1Bu8PBuYpLZx88dfn40Nkq1Dm59GE
and check for youself what are the performance since the official launch and until forever.

You will come up with the same result. 0 earning and me being legit while without having to trust one of your scammy friends to hold 500%( Grin) as collateral .. You guys really like the power to access the funds uh?   Grin Grin

About this;
When are you going to start trading?

You don't make any trades at all. I've been watching for days now, but i've yet to see some trades worth more than 1$.

for quantitative research, (what your bot is supposed to be based on?), one would expect a n=x of atleast "infinity  Roll Eyes", so you better get your sample size up from 35 shit trades to something that actually shows us something.

Or are you too scared to make a few trades(100000 +/- micro trades should be easily done in a few hours, right?)?
What are you waiting for.




For those interested: these are all the trades his bot made over the last few days:
Quote
{ orderID: 'd1ffd2ea-332e-5f8f-33a8-6dc2a08e955f',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-16T10:48:40.525Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 1,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10319 },
  { orderID: '5faced6f-14e0-14c8-97ad-578fbbc68c2b',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-16T10:48:50.894Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 1,
    side: 'Sell',
    price: 10318.5 },
  { orderID: '1520f30f-f8c9-a852-4ff6-e76f28ca5f04',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-19T06:05:09.183Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 1,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 9868.5 },
  { orderID: '44623017-df68-0294-adda-e6e1ddc0d35a',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-19T06:05:19.252Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 1,
    side: 'Sell',
    price: 9868 } ]

A stunning number of 4 trades. Yeah. This is big brain time. Your strategy is making 100% profit with a single dollar or something? Simply swap accounts if a bad trade is made?
Your bot can predict the market accurately 99% of the time right? What are you waiting for? Put it to work.




Boom! You just commited forgery/financial statement fraud, (California Penal Code 470, and Penal Code section 532a, C(1), if i'm not mistaken).

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&sectionNum=532a.


Since i always lose my temper when replying to your nonsense, from now on i will only make a list of the inaccuracies, and as always, debunk them.

1. Arakne officially launched on September 2nd 2019, which is when the open live demo account was created. Every trade since then is freely accessible via the read only api key present here and the current stats are 24 wins 0 loss roi +9.7%.
You digged in the account and surprisingly managed to access the trading history via the key:

Code:
[ { account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    currency: 'XBt',
    timestamp: '2019-09-16T17:00:01.063Z',
    currentQty: 0,
    markPrice: null,
    liquidationPrice: null,
    avgEntryPrice: null } ]
[ { orderID: '6af401dc-6988-0e09-f199-d912c7261dd0',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-03T16:12:28.151Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 1,
    side: 'Sell',
    price: 10666 },
  { orderID: 'c3a41546-95eb-c9bc-d089-f9a5b4319f8d',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-03T16:12:38.850Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 1,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10666.5 },
  { orderID: '9f96ce3b-b7b2-ceb3-8e0c-3ac176f13746',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-03T20:37:32.192Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 14,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10700 },
  { orderID: '03f81c4d-b266-fcb2-be07-db54957bca62',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-03T20:55:07.727Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 14,
    side: 'Sell',
    price: 10732.5 },
  { orderID: '909bac69-a82a-884e-3a6f-64f1d7a9506e',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T08:52:18.108Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 23,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10609 },
  { orderID: '44957722-9059-ba66-ff85-bbd549b2a513',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T09:06:34.734Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 23,
    side: 'Sell',
    price: 10627.5 },
  { orderID: 'cc1c87fa-ebd6-a5de-5873-ffae87562fb4',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T09:17:40.076Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 23,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10593 },
  { orderID: 'c15c1087-35ea-17e8-09c8-9f6d233923e9',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T09:32:03.440Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 23,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10578 },
  { orderID: '2d10e1b1-1760-66bc-a155-2d0ab4e2bce6',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T09:32:58.047Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 48,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10558 },
  { orderID: '6789ebbb-942d-76be-fddb-67e894f9afad',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T10:12:11.086Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 102,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10527 },
  { orderID: 'be7412a9-2572-b2ef-a0e9-61cf59e1ff25',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-05T10:20:26.016Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 102,
    side: 'Sell',
    price: 10568 },
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    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
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    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
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    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
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2. How can you even think to make 100k trades in a few hours when backtest data says 600 trades in 20 months? This bot is a market maker which is severely limited from trading during manipulations. You probably don't believe in market manipulations either, nor how they are very common and used to create liquidity in critical areas. I could go deeper into the mechanics but you would just say that i'm typing strong keywords at random like always.

3. Here's the definition of a Quant Shop:
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A quant shop is a money management firm where its employees use mathematical and statistical methods for making trading decisions and constructing a portfolio.
http://www.econtrader.com/what_is/quant_shop.htm

It has nothing to do with the frequency of trades!  Undecided

4. Arakne's last trade was on 13th September, a nice 1.7%. If she didn't trade during this period is because some of her anti-manipulation function triggered and is waiting for the perfect opportunty to enter and start her marketmaking in a safe enough range. Safe is SLOW! That's how this bot has 96.5% win rate.

5. The 1 contract trades are automatically made by the bot during long periods of waiting for a manipulation pattern to complete. These are necessary because a bug(or feature ?  Grin) in bitmex's websocket restores the last position values after a while, causing the endpoint to fail and eventually the bots to crash. A lightning fast uninfluent 1 contract trade make sure we don't have to worry about that.

6. Go ahead and report us to the SEC. BTW bitmex is outside USA jurisdiction , that's also why Arakne can't manage funds of american citiziens and many more, here the full list:


7. Patience is key. We're here to stay so don't rush! I think she's almost ready to come back for a hunt... but who knows Grin
I'm curious as you are to know after how many trades we will get the loss. 24 wins in a row is no easy task though and should the next trade be a loss that would not erase anything of her perfect launch.

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The linguistic masturbation of adding [ROASTING] to your title only shows how bloated your ego is. Come on.

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What's a "citiziens"? Can it act as a Bitcoin private key?
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Look how many noobs  Grin

It will be fucking glorious, mark my words.  Grin Grin

A member and a bot vs a forum. Let's see what happens, i promise one thing, the api key of the open account will stay open so everyone can follow this story!

Note that the readonly API KEY is disabled during trades in order to avoid people getting rekt manually copying the trades.
Market conditions can change in a split of a second and the bot immediately reacts to them changing entries and exits.
By manual trading the rekt will eventually hit because no human can compete with tireless machines.








What's a "citiziens"? Can it act as a Bitcoin private key?

Thanks for pointing out the typo, good shiba!  Kiss

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You can't just make 20 small trades and call it a win.. That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
All those wins can be ascribed to pure luck, and prove, in statistical terms, absolutely nothing.

4. Arakne's last trade was on 13th September, a nice 1.7%. If she didn't trade during this period is because some of her anti-manipulation function triggered and is waiting for the perfect opportunty to enter and start her marketmaking in a safe enough range. Safe is SLOW! That's how this bot has 96.5% win rate.
No, that's not how this bot has a 96.5% "winrate"

That is simply due to the fact that you double down whenever a buy order goes under water. You're applying the martingale strategy with your funds, and, most importantly, simply waiting for Bitcoin to recover.
Anyone can do that themselves. They absolutely do not need you for that.


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4. Arakne's last trade was on 13th September, a nice 1.7%
such an obvious lie.

These are actually the last trades

Quote
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    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-13T13:29:10.064Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 202,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10324 },
  { orderID: 'f8f5f4f8-f1e7-d49b-dea4-63b6147982d6',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-13T14:02:31.552Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 96,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10314 },
  { orderID: '87b6f0f0-3611-d800-0257-82605ac1ccb5',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-13T14:02:49.812Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 46,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10304 },
  { orderID: '300b08b2-e1af-99c3-627f-2eaeeeca34bf',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-13T14:15:36.991Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 45,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10292 },
 ]

And they're currently  at a loss of ~150 dollar price points.

You failed to predict the market, and now you're simply waiting for Bitcoin to recover before closing your trade.....
You can only do this so many times before an actual crash liquidates you, or at the very least suffer severe losses..

Again- i refer to reggiebot, where the exact same strategies lead to the liquidation of the entire userbase. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025195.40


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2. How can you even think to make 100k trades in a few hours when backtest data says 600 trades in 20 months? This bot is a market maker which is severely limited from trading during manipulations. You probably don't believe in market manipulations either, nor how they are very common and used to create liquidity in critical areas. I could go deeper into the mechanics but you would just say that i'm typing strong keywords at random like always.
Or referring to your imaginary trades.


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You can't just make 20 small trades and call it a win.. That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
All those wins can be ascribed to pure luck, and prove, in statistical terms, absolutely nothing.

4. Arakne's last trade was on 13th September, a nice 1.7%. If she didn't trade during this period is because some of her anti-manipulation function triggered and is waiting for the perfect opportunty to enter and start her marketmaking in a safe enough range. Safe is SLOW! That's how this bot has 96.5% win rate.
No, that's not how this bot has a 96.5% "winrate"

That is simply due to the fact that you double down whenever a buy order goes under water. You're applying the martingale strategy with your funds, and, most importantly, simply waiting for Bitcoin to recover.
Anyone can do that themselves. They absolutely do not need you for that.


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4. Arakne's last trade was on 13th September, a nice 1.7%
such an obvious lie.

These are actually the last trades

Quote
{ orderID: '3b2efbe3-d1b0-1027-0274-2b8630fdac4d',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-13T13:29:10.064Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 202,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10324 },
  { orderID: 'f8f5f4f8-f1e7-d49b-dea4-63b6147982d6',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-13T14:02:31.552Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 96,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10314 },
  { orderID: '87b6f0f0-3611-d800-0257-82605ac1ccb5',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-13T14:02:49.812Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 46,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10304 },
  { orderID: '300b08b2-e1af-99c3-627f-2eaeeeca34bf',
    account: 1232047,
    symbol: 'XBTUSD',
    timestamp: '2019-09-13T14:15:36.991Z',
    clOrdID: '',
    orderQty: 45,
    side: 'Buy',
    price: 10292 },
 ]

And they're currently  at a loss of ~150 dollar price points.

You failed to predict the market, and now you're simply waiting for Bitcoin to recover before closing your trade.....
You can only do this so many times before an actual crash liquidates you, or at the very least suffer severe losses..

Again- i refer to reggiebot, where the exact same strategies lead to the liquidation of the entire userbase. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025195.40


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2. How can you even think to make 100k trades in a few hours when backtest data says 600 trades in 20 months? This bot is a market maker which is severely limited from trading during manipulations. You probably don't believe in market manipulations either, nor how they are very common and used to create liquidity in critical areas. I could go deeper into the mechanics but you would just say that i'm typing strong keywords at random like always.
Or referring to your imaginary trades.



1. Is it possible that i might know better than you how my work field works? Especially after i had to explain you api, api key, basic market behaviors , quant shop meaning and so on. I admit not be an expert as you guys on all of this forum's feature.. simply because is not my job and i don't have to.

2. This how it works: once you understand how the markets and manipulations work, you start building an algo and a money management system where rewards are bigger than risks over a long period of time. how can you do that? you can launch a basic version of the algo and wait at least a couple years for data to be accurate and get rekt because you face sharks with a fork. what's a better option? you build a backtest engine very very accurate and then you backtest the strategy over a period of years in just minutes. this allows to "mature" the algo very fast, and it works because everything in the market is a cycle that repeats over and over again. Have you heard " history repeats itself" ? Thats why you will never take down arakne, is built from scratch to be profitable long term and is baked by 600 trades in backtest. 24 real one since launch early this month can be backtest accuracy or luck, i guess time will tell right? I just hope you understand that you are not challenging me, you are challenging the ability of markets to repeat themselves during history.

3. Last trade was +1.7% , i don't understand what you mean with
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And they're currently  at a loss of ~150 dollar price points.
since the trade closed 7 days ago   Grin

TRADES UPDATE
13th September 2019

5 WIN - 0 LOSS  ROI: +1.7%





4. This is a screenshot of the demo account balance, the days with negative RealisedPNL are when the bot triggers the 1 contract fast trades to avoid the crashing because of the endpoint bug. Do your calculation and you will see that is +9.7% since launch



5. is mathematically impossible to get liquidated with arakne's money management. avg risk involved per position is 5% while the max loss is 32%. Only a huge bug like, not placing a stop, could liquidate the account. those kind of bug either happen right at the beginning or they dont


6. build your bot and show me better backtest or at least positive over a period of at least 20 months. i know you wont because it took me a long time to find the key to avoid manipulations and i'm into trading since 2013 . Tell me what you see here


7. from the one pager:

There's no other way to average down a position other than buying when on the way... and this is just perfect for markemeking since you actually need to act as support at different levels. martingale is like a knife, if you give it to kids  they will probably get hurt

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I voted for oppostion on this flag because I fully trust my API key in OP his hands. I don’t understand all the hate on the OP his bot. I am using his arakne service and I am fine with the risk involved. I am not going to deny he cant liquidate all my funds, but that is the risk u have to take. Same thing as when u copytrade or let some company do the investing for you. There are always risks involved.

About the private key thing. API key is not a private key since it is not from the bitcoin blockchain, but from your Bitmex account. So basically the API key is a secret key for your bitmex account, not the btc that is in that account. So yes you OWN your account with the API key, but the funds are still on bitmex. I understand the confusion here. Because you can also say that the API key is access to the bitmex funds in the account. In this case u also have to trust Bitmex with your funds. So its not a real private key to the btc network.

If anyone wants to have my read only key send me a PM. I will be happy to help confirming I am a legit user of the service provided by the OP.

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I understand the confusion here.

There is no confusion. The OP is lying and misrepresenting the risks. He claimed that the API key "can act" as a Bitcoin private key so many times that there is zero room for any confusion.
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I understand the confusion here.

There is no confusion. The OP is lying and misrepresenting the risks. He claimed that the API key "can act" as a Bitcoin private key so many times that there is zero room for any confusion.

every reply of mine is baked by data and reputable sources. I will stand until death to my definition. I could even build a platform that simply creates a bridge between a previously linked bitcoin private key and the api key of your account on the platform.. the result would be an api key that can do every single thing you could directly do with the private key. why? because an api key is just a tool of authentication . what it can do it depends on the platform that generated it.

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An application programming interface key (API key) is a unique string of alphanumeric characters transmitted as part of an API request that authenticate the source of the API request. API keys can be of two types: Public API key and Private API key.
The API key often acts as both a unique identifier and a secret token for authentication, and will generally have a set of access rights on the API associated with it.
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In very simple words, an API key identifies you on the service platform that generated the key. (instead of using email and password uses the key to log in)
An API key can be anything and do anything, simply because it depends on what kind of API generated it, but usually is used for remote access and data tracking.

Likewise crypto wallets, there are public and private API keys with the difference that API keys are more like tools that adapt based on your needs.
For example, if you want to give access at others to selected data/privileges, you simply need to create a Public API Key which authenticates them to access your account and do nothing more than what you allowed. On the contrary, if you want to give full privileges and access to all data , you would create a Private API Key, which of course should be for your use only.

Another important difference is that API KEYS can be disabled and enabled at will, which is something very handy.



API KEYS IN TRADING:

API Keys are very handy when trading, even if you are still trading in frontend, and know nothing about programming, you should always have a private key enabled and stored securely offline, just in case anything bad happens to the frontend of the exchange and you urgently need to entry/exit a trade or even worst you locked yourself out(2FA rekt)... having the API Key allows you to have a way back in the account via terminal.

Usually exchanges offer the following privileges settings for API Keys:
- Order ( you can create and cancel orders via key)
- Cancel (you can only cancel orders via key)
- ReadOnly ( you can only read unencrypted data, such as balance/trade history/orders/markets data via key but you can't interact with any)
- Withdraw ( you can send a withdrawal request which still needs to be confirmed via email)
- CIDR (useful for ip filtering , read more here)

API KEYS are also commonly used by big Brokers, Hedge Funds and Quant Shops to safely manage their clients' capitals without having direct access to the funds.

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I understand the confusion here.

There is no confusion. The OP is lying and misrepresenting the risks. He claimed that the API key "can act" as a Bitcoin private key so many times that there is zero room for any confusion.

I could even build a platform that simply creates a bridge between a previously linked bitcoin private key and the api key of your account on the platform.. the result would be an api key that can do every single thing you could directly do with the private key. why? because an api key is just a tool of authentication . what it can do it depends on the platform that generated it.

You were specifically talking about BitMEX API keys, which do not act as bitcoin private keys no matter how far you want to stretch the definition. You are now changing the context of what you were previously talking about in order to avoid having to admit you were wrong.

You can build a platform to use bitcoin private keys in any manner you'd like but its not the same thing as BitMEX API keys.

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I understand the confusion here.

There is no confusion. The OP is lying and misrepresenting the risks. He claimed that the API key "can act" as a Bitcoin private key so many times that there is zero room for any confusion.

I could even build a platform that simply creates a bridge between a previously linked bitcoin private key and the api key of your account on the platform.. the result would be an api key that can do every single thing you could directly do with the private key. why? because an api key is just a tool of authentication . what it can do it depends on the platform that generated it.

You were specifically talking about BitMEX API keys, which do not act as bitcoin private keys no matter how far you want to stretch the definition. You are now changing the context of what you were previously talking about in order to avoid having to admit you were wrong.

You can build a platform to use bitcoin private keys in any manner you'd like but its not the same thing as BitMEX API keys.
Finally a message that has a sense.  It only took 6 pages.

I totally agree that a bitmex api key, even with privileges of withdraw, without access to the email account associated, can't act as a wallet private key. simply because you would still need to confirm the withdraw via email.

Please tell me where i said that a bitmex api key alone can act as a private key of the bitmex's wallet.

Unlike the trolls, i never delete my replies, if i said it is there.


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Please tell me where i said that a bitmex api key alone can act as a private key of the bitmex's wallet.

Not interested in playing word games with you. You keep shifting the goal posts, and again, we're very familiar with this kind of behavior.

This guy summed up the problem with what you are offering more-or-less perfectly:

I have not encountered 1 bot, in the world of crypto trading, that had a proven track record of consistent profitability and was also on sale for the retail public's benefit. If there was any significant alpha factor, the owner of such a bot would be extremely cautious about not compromising that edge by sharing it with the public. You would be the first of your kind in this case, which is highly doubtful, but I'm sure the intelligent traders & investors can decide for themselves.

I understand you are not selling the bot. No need to nitpick that point. But the problem remains: if your bot is consistently profitable enough to offer consistent returns of this-or-that a month, why share it with the public? Why not just compound your own profits and not run the risk of having somebody figure out what your bot is up to?

Furthermore, one point of clarification I'd like is, how do your customers benefit from your account having "market maker" privileges if their accounts do not? A few trades you made that appeared to be a loss may have still been profitable to you thanks to such privileges, but would still be a loss to them. I'm just trying to understand how you reconcile this difference.

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-snop-
Trading is a zero-sum game.

If your bot guarantees to profit, then someone is guaranteed to lose.
If everyone uses the bot, then everyone is guaranteed profit, then everyone is guaranteed losses.

Wait.

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Successful traders don't use bots. The best way to become a successful trader is, doing less trades.

The less you trade,  the more successful you become.

That's why, the best traders are who do zero trades, hodlers.

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Please tell me where i said that a bitmex api key alone can act as a private key of the bitmex's wallet.

Not interested in playing word games with you. You keep shifting the goal posts, and again, we're very familiar with this kind of behavior.

This guy summed up the problem with what you are offering more-or-less perfectly:

I have not encountered 1 bot, in the world of crypto trading, that had a proven track record of consistent profitability and was also on sale for the retail public's benefit. If there was any significant alpha factor, the owner of such a bot would be extremely cautious about not compromising that edge by sharing it with the public. You would be the first of your kind in this case, which is highly doubtful, but I'm sure the intelligent traders & investors can decide for themselves.

I understand you are not selling the bot. No need to nitpick that point. But the problem remains: if your bot is consistently profitable enough to offer consistent returns of this-or-that a month, why share it with the public? Why not just compound your own profits and not run the risk of having somebody figure out what your bot is up to?

Furthermore, one point of clarification I'd like is, how do your customers benefit from your account having "market maker" privileges if their accounts do not? A few trades you made that appeared to be a loss may have still been profitable to you thanks to such privileges, but would still be a loss to them. I'm just trying to understand how you reconcile this difference.

I shift nothing. you guys have made a crusade about a definition that
a- was clearly misunderstood
b- was absolutely not related to arakne's business model. if an api key can act or not as a private key is irrelevant since the only api key the bot needs is a public one with access to only trading.

Luckily you pointed out that this bot is absolutely not for sale, why do i offer the service i'm offering?
Simply because i earn more. Isn't all about that in this world? Compounding the commissions gives me much much higher roi than 500% in 20 months.

Am i scared someone is gonna figure out how it works? no at all. reverse engineer the whole thing is almost impossible. If you spend some time digging in the 600 trades in backtest you can understand the moneymanagement, if you really know the way around markets you could even understand how the nearest resistance and support levels are calculated... but there are dozens of side algos that only track manipulation and breakouts patterns and act as a semaphore for starting the market making. Understanding the semaphore's logic is almost impossible by only looking at the trades

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Furthermore, one point of clarification I'd like is, how do your customers benefit from your account having "market maker" privileges if their accounts do not? A few trades you made that appeared to be a loss may have still been profitable to you thanks to such privileges, but would still be a loss to them. I'm just trying to understand how you reconcile this difference.

The bold part is nonsense. All bots run the same source code via the same kind of api key with only "order" privileges-

If you check the balance posted by who tested the bot:
You should move that mirror out of the way then

Really?  Is that the "roasting" I was promised?  You're gonna have to do better than that, son.

While I have your attention, riddle me this:  Why is a quantitative trading programmer begging for money here in the bitcointalk lending board?  The ones I know started earning $125k right out of college, with no real-world experience.  The good ones can earn half a million or more with bonuses.  Something isn't adding up.

And by the way; a vouch from your scammy alt isn't helping your case.  Just an FYI.

False accusation here.

Yes looks like someone is throwing the stone and hiding the hand. He deleted most of his posts. Thanks DireWolfM14, have been a pleasure. I add you to my roasted list, but remember that what happens on the internet stays on the internet. I'm collapsing my replies in a single post so he can't do anything to delete them reporting to a moderator as non-legit ups! There are so many little tricks going on this forum....
I genuinely think it is unfair for the DT people to give u red trust. For what it is worth here are my results of using the Arakne Bot since 2 september 2019.



Edit: I was also very skeptical about this invetsment at first. Now I have daily contact with this user and I trust him with managing my funds on Bitmex. Also he has only API key for trading, not for WITHDRAW.

I think calling this user a PONZI owner is very strange because the funds never are fully in his control or away from bitmex. Anyway there is never a guarantee of profit, but is based on future predictions which have been turning out quite well. I have 100% winrate as of now with his trading algo.

you can see that he has the same final ROI as the demo account: +9.7%
simply because all trades are the same.

actually his roi is even higher, he's at 15% because the demo account wasn't created straight away




Successful traders don't use bots. The best way to become a successful trader is, doing less trades.

The less you trade,  the more successful you become.

That's why, the best traders are who do zero trades, hodlers.
yup, hodlers run the biggest industry of the world. HOW NAIVE are you guys?

Algo bots rule the markets. They accumulate profits until they got manipulated as source of liquidity by whales that understand how they work.

This image says everything:




And this is not only true for bitcoin, but also for the trillions of daily volume of forex,stocks,bonds.




-snop-
Trading is a zero-sum game.

If your bot guarantees to profit, then someone is guaranteed to lose.
If everyone uses the bot, then everyone is guaranteed profit, then everyone is guaranteed losses.

Wait.

Indeed at some point, when Arakne will have enough btc in management(aka enough commissions scheduled  Grin), the whole thing will go private.
Based on the visibility that this thread gave to the project, that will not take long.  Grin

Also is clear all the people that got owned in this thread, got rekt by the market and think is basically impossible to make money by trading.




2 bln daily volume and over 23k bots online right now and we are all losing money.
 Grin Grin

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Based on the visibility that this thread gave to the project, that will not take long.  Grin

I'm not so sure that any press is good press here.. Burning bridges here like you are could be a huge mistake for your project..

Even if you have an excellent bot, you are failing your team miserably with your representation.. IMO..

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Based on the visibility that this thread gave to the project, that will not take long.  Grin

I'm not so sure that any press is good press here.. Burning bridges here like you are could be a huge mistake for your project..

Even if you have an excellent bot, you are failing your team miserably with your representation.. IMO..

As long as a project is legit, any press is good press. I debunked every accusation with facts, there all kind of evidence we are not only legit but profitable.
Who is in the trading world and read my replies, contacted me to know more and were eager to start testing the system.

Btw my dear haters, get ready because Arakne entered the markets. API key will be disabled until the trade is closed.


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While in here they attack Arakne by saying how impossible is to make money with a market maker bot , they DREAM of doing the same exact thing.

HOW PATHETIC YOU ARE?? SILLY JEALOUS SPINELESS PEOPLE. Good luck building anything with that ignorance and arrogance.

Vispillo stick to eating referrals with you signals groups, let the powerful stuff to who knows his shit.

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For clarification: I received this PM above (screenshot) today. I thought he confused me for CryptoSpark so I DM’ed cryptospark with this image on Telegram. And yet now I again see the bigger picture. Some people attack him in order to create their own bot and promote that. Really childish play for all the people that are involved in this particular FUD attempt and creation of the other algo.

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For clarification: I received this PM above (screenshot) today. I thought he confused me for CryptoSpark so I DM’ed cryptospark with this image on Telegram. And yet now I again see the bigger picture. Some people attack him in order to create their own bot and promote that. Really childish play for all the people that are involved in this particular FUD attempt and creation of the other algo.

This FruitsBasket guy must really be a basket case, or a very sensitive snowflake...

Read my comments on the situation above, I often commended Cryptosparks for his intelligence, and despite his atrocious attitude and
very controversial marketing tactics Smiley, I noted on previous messages he had a few strong insights into algorithmic trading.

It's true I'm a derivatives trader by profession and we develop and enhance several algos each year, I'm often looking to work with talented people who can code trading strategies, including crypto derivatives; it has absolutely nothing to do with Cryptosparks' offer here and what's going on in this thread.

He just started his live trading record, even though he was claiming live results since a few months ago, which has now been debunked,
he needs to greatly improve his professionalism, truthfulness and conduct if he wants a career in asset management regardless of how the drama on this Meta thread plays out...

ps. while typing this comment, I had not even read CryptoSparks' insinuation that we are trying to copy the same thing, must be a new summit in fantasy and daydreaming, this thread is spiraling out of control, CryptoSparks good luck buddy with your delusions, you seem hell bent on destroying what little credibility you have left, looking forward to seeing you with yet another amusing marketing gig soon...

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For clarification: I received this PM above (screenshot) today. I thought he confused me for CryptoSpark so I DM’ed cryptospark with this image on Telegram. And yet now I again see the bigger picture. Some people attack him in order to create their own bot and promote that. Really childish play for all the people that are involved in this particular FUD attempt and creation of the other algo.

This FruitsBasket guy must really be a basket case, or a very sensitive snowflake...

Read my comments on the situation above, I often commended Cryptosparks for his intelligence, and despite his atrocious attitude and
very controversial marketing tactics Smiley, I noted on previous messages he had a few strong insights into algorithmic trading.

It's true I'm a derivatives trader by profession and we develop and enhance several algos each year, I'm often looking to work with talented people who can code trading strategies, including crypto derivatives; it has absolutely nothing to do with Cryptosparks' offer here and what's going on in this thread.

He just started his live trading record, even though he was claiming live results since a few months ago, which has now been debunked,
he needs to greatly improve his professionalism, truthfulness and conduct if he wants a career in asset management regardless of how the drama on this Meta thread plays out...

ps. while typing this comment, I had not even read CryptoSparks' insinuation that we are trying to copy the same thing, must be a new summit in fantasy and daydreaming, this thread is spiraling out of control, CryptoSparks good luck buddy with your delusions, you seem hell bent on destroying what little credibility you have left, looking forward to seeing you with yet another amusing marketing gig soon...
Look at the shit talk here:
http://archive.li/mQAdQ

BTW Arakne just made another winning trade. Go hate all you want on the OP. As long as I am making money I am happy. Good luck mr professional trader.

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Good luck shorting the hunnybadger..

I see you barely made out beating the fees by the skin of your teeth on that one.. It looks like a trade that you cut short in the nick of time because it wasn't going your way..
It really isn't all that bad but not impressive by itself..

If that is your trading style then you need to fill 100 trades a day..
If you can make 100 trades a day and make 1-5% on say 65% of them like that, and take small losses like 1-3% on the other 35 or just break even to get out, then you can start making steady compounding gains every day..

To me about the only way a bot would be useful would be for HFT faster than I can trade.. To jump other bots.. To hold both sides of the spread.. To jump your orders.. To get your position back for sale immediately on the books after it hit.. To keep hail mary orders in the books infront of walls..

How many orders is your bot placing per day?
If it isn't placing even 1,000 orders a day then what is it doing? Swing trading?

And your bot held that trade for about an entire hour? Whew, that's a long hold for a small % flip like that.. If I was only looking for 1% I'd only buy it if I though I could sell it back almost immediately..

What % of your capital did you tie up in that trade? IMO that should have been like maybe 20% of your trading capital while you are still using the rest playing the books looking more more hits..

Lets see another 50 filled trades a day for the next 2 weeks..

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Good luck shorting the hunnybadger..

I see you barely made out beating the fees by the skin of your teeth on that one.. It looks like a trade that you cut short in the nick of time because it wasn't going your way..
It really isn't all that bad but not impressive by itself..

If that is your trading style then you need to fill 100 trades a day..
If you can make 100 trades a day and make 1-5% on say 65% of them like that, and take small losses like 1-3% on the other 35 or just break even to get out, then you can start making steady compounding gains every day..

To me about the only way a bot would be useful would be for HFT faster than I can trade.. To jump other bots.. To hold both sides of the spread.. To jump your orders.. To get your position back for sale immediately on the books after it hit.. To keep hail mary orders in the books infront of walls..

How many orders is your bot placing per day?
If it isn't placing even 1,000 orders a day then what is it doing? Swing trading?

And your bot held that trade for about an entire hour? Whew, that's a long hold for a small % flip like that.. If I was only looking for 1% I'd only buy it if I though I could sell it back almost immediately..

What % of your capital did you tie up in that trade? IMO that should have been like maybe 20% of your trading capital while you are still using the rest playing the books looking more more hits..

Lets see another 50 filled trades a day for the next 2 weeks..

Almost regretting spending my last merit on you !  Grin

Jokes a part:
1. Please remember that a market maker job is to earn the fee rebate. we don't have to pay the fee, we earn them!

2. You can see first trade got closed in 10 minutes, how long it takes to close a position it depends on the market

3. 1000 orders per day? How could that be possible if backtest shows 600 trades in 20 months?

4. We don't need anything more than what achieved in backtest, and 11% in less than 3 weeks with 28 wins in a row is on schedule.

5. i never promised huge rois, the whole bot is market as SAFE AND SLOW

6. The max exposure during that position was 4% of all capital

7. There are many bots for different purposes. Arakne is a market maker severely limited to trade during manipulations or breakouts

8. Shorting or Longing doesnt make a difference when you are playing with odds in your favour

9. To know how many trades are made per day you should head over Arakne's thread since all trades are posted there

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For the unbelievers, I have to share my status of using his Arakne bot. Back to back winning trades by CryptoSparks his bot. I want to thank you for running this bot on my bitmex account. My advise is to ignore the haters from now on. You know what they do: FUD and tell everyone it is a scam and than they develop their own bot as showed in the images. Funny that jealousy makes people do this kind of stuff.

Trading is always risk vs reward. Until now I am still very glad I had opportunity to use his bot. Everyone here reading this. Decide for yourself if you want to use his service or not, I really don't care. Only thing that bothers me is the always constant negative bullshit he gets for his efforts.



Happy trading everyone Smiley

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For the unbelievers, I have to share my status of using his Arakne bot. Back to back winning trades by CryptoSparks his bot. I want to thank you for running this bot on my bitmex account. My advise is to ignore the haters from now on. You know what they do: FUD and tell everyone it is a scam and than they develop their own bot as showed in the images. Funny that jealousy makes people do this kind of stuff.

Trading is always risk vs reward. Until now I am still very glad I had opportunity to use his bot. Everyone here reading this. Decide for yourself if you want to use his service or not, I really don't care. Only thing that bothers me is the always constant negative bullshit he gets for his efforts.



Happy trading everyone Smiley

Thanks for the support mate, luckily you are a Legendary Member so they can't accuse you of being an ALT  Grin

ARAKNE REACHED THE 5 BTC CAP WE WERE LOOKING TO MANAGE ON BITCOINTALK.
Subscriptions are OFFICIALLY CLOSED


Thanks to who took the risk and did his own research.
You guys are the reason why i haven't left this forum yet.



I want to personally thank all the trolls that helped Arakne gain the needed visibility!
Your ignorance and arrogance played out exactly as expected, funny enough... the warning was right there:
Hello,
as always i keep roasting ignorant people accusing me of scamming

I leave you and this thread with the WHOLE trading history since Arakne's launch, 33 wins in a row printed in the face of trolls, ignorant and rekt people that think is impossible to make money with the biggest industry of the world.
 

Ps. don't worry, Arakne's trades updates will still be posted in her Thread... while Phoenix, the Swing Trading Bot, will hit bitcointalk pages in October  Grin

THANKS LOSERS!

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Just an interesting update:


Arakne is still 100% win rate with 75 wins and +34% since this war started..

while more and more people fall for your miserable spams all over the forum of gambling platforms


I'm so sad for today I have many loan,to play primedice.com,but I'm not lucky I'll loss everything.....I thing I comet suicide,,,,

 

YOSHIE , CryptopreneurBrainboss , examplens , morvillz7z , Coolcryptovator , DireWolfM14 , Theb , JeromeTash , nutildah and friends:

SHAME. SHAME OF YOU.
PRETENDING TO CARE ABOUT OTHERS, WHILE YOU CARE ONLY OF EATING YOUR SIGNATURE BOUNTY.

YOU ARE DISGUSTING.


I hope Karma exists and you will live the rest of your pathetic lives with 50$ per week.

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Does an API key still act as a Bitcoin private key? Just checking if you learned anything worthwhile about the main topic of this forum, or is just a tool for you to spam your shit.
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Just an interesting update:

you have all these pages and posts due to your personality fella - also an API Key isn't a BITCOIN private key you twatmunching imbecile

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What a fucking douche canoe.

Does an API key still act as a Bitcoin private key? Just checking if you learned anything worthwhile about the main topic of this forum, or is just a tool for you to spam your shit.

you have all these pages and posts due to your personality fella - also an API Key isn't a BITCOIN private key you twatmunching imbecile

His pathological inability to admit his incorrectness here reminds me of a few high profile trolls around these parts.


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His pathological inability to admit his incorrectness here reminds me of a few high profile trolls around these parts.

he really is as useless as the foreskin after a circumcision, even if his bot was the best bot in the world his general attitude and incapability to admit that an API key is not a BITCOIN private key is enough for him to lose out on a fuck ton of business.


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Shame on you for falling to your ego. Did your hubris grow so much out of control that you couldn't keep yourself from the psychological masturbation of unlocking the thread and sperging out your horseshit?

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Does an API key still act as a Bitcoin private key? Just checking if you learned anything worthwhile about the main topic of this forum, or is just a tool for you to spam your shit.
such arrogant, so ignorant.
Weren't you the one that publicly admitted to have judged with superficially my business and then went back in full FUD mode when i refused to delete your negative feedback ?
Weren't you the one that challenged a dev on his field and got roasted ? Maybe you should stick to whatever you are good at ( i have some ideas....  Roll Eyes   Kiss)

Since i'm still being provoked on this subject, i have to post again the full guide on API KEYS that i made specifically for your dumb ass, in order to explain you that an API KEY is a modular tool that can be shaped at will based on the service releasing it and its privileges.

I hope i don't need to find another of the few survived devs in this dying forum in order to demonstrate that i'm right on what API KEYS are.


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An application programming interface key (API key) is a unique string of alphanumeric characters transmitted as part of an API request that authenticate the source of the API request. API keys can be of two types: Public API key and Private API key.
The API key often acts as both a unique identifier and a secret token for authentication, and will generally have a set of access rights on the API associated with it.
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In very simple words, an API key identifies you on the service platform that generated the key. (instead of using email and password uses the key to log in)
An API key can be anything and do anything, simply because it depends on what kind of API generated it, but usually is used for remote access and data tracking.

Likewise crypto wallets, there are public and private API keys with the difference that API keys are more like tools that adapt based on your needs.
For example, if you want to give access at others to selected data/privileges, you simply need to create a Public API Key which authenticates them to access your account and do nothing more than what you allowed. On the contrary, if you want to give full privileges and access to all data , you would create a Private API Key, which of course should be for your use only.

Another important difference is that API KEYS can be disabled and enabled at will, which is something very handy.



API KEYS IN TRADING:

API Keys are very handy when trading, even if you are still trading in frontend, and know nothing about programming, you should always have a private key enabled and stored securely offline, just in case anything bad happens to the frontend of the exchange and you urgently need to entry/exit a trade or even worst you locked yourself out(2FA rekt)... having the API Key allows you to have a way back in the account via terminal.

Usually exchanges offer the following privileges settings for API Keys:
- Order ( you can create and cancel orders via key)
- Cancel (you can only cancel orders via key)
- ReadOnly ( you can only read unencrypted data, such as balance/trade history/orders/markets data via key but you can't interact with any)
- Withdraw ( you can send a withdrawal request which still needs to be confirmed via email)
- CIDR (useful for ip filtering , read more here)

API KEYS are also commonly used by big Brokers, Hedge Funds and Quant Shops to safely manage their clients' capitals without having direct access to the funds.




Just an interesting update:

you have all these pages and posts due to your personality fella - also an API Key isn't a BITCOIN private key you twatmunching imbecile


Welcome in the roasting show mate, did you feel accused because you are among the hypocrites that spam gambling sites all over for 50 miserable bucks per week and then faking interest in protecting other users ?
Please quote where i said that an API KEY is a Bitcoin private key. I'm waiting.  Roll Eyes





What a fucking douche canoe.

Does an API key still act as a Bitcoin private key? Just checking if you learned anything worthwhile about the main topic of this forum, or is just a tool for you to spam your shit.

you have all these pages and posts due to your personality fella - also an API Key isn't a BITCOIN private key you twatmunching imbecile

His pathological inability to admit his incorrectness here reminds me of a few high profile trolls around these parts.



Here's the king of hypocrisy and ignorance, the man himself. Did you spam your casino properly this week? How are you sleeping all nights knowing that you're sending people with economic and addiction problems in the wolves' mouth ? Pathetic.

I spent even too much time explaining you how markets works, so i won't even bother. For who is interested in quantifying his ignorance feel free to jump in Arakne's thread and have a laugh.




Shame on you for falling to your ego. Did your hubris grow so much out of control that you couldn't keep yourself from the psychological masturbation of unlocking the thread and sperging out your horseshit?

I can have a big ego when i have products that even big hedge funds can't compete with. I will never bend the knees to ignorant, pathetic, anonymous trolls that spend their lives on a forum, finding relief from their miserable and pointless lives in an ecosystem that instead of promoting decentralization turned into an oligarchy based on fake and insignificant 'merit' units.

My platform will bring automated algorithmic trading to the mass in 2 weeks from now, watch us rule the markets.

See ya

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Welcome in the roasting show mate

1) I am not your mate
2) This is the retarded CryptoSharks show not a roasting show
3) Fuck off you retarded Pajeet

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Welcome in the roasting show mate

1) I am not your mate
2) This is the retarded CryptoSharks show not a roasting show
3) Fuck off you retarded Pajeet

Oh i see only now you're also promoting the stupidest bot in circulation, Gunbot  Grin Grin  Grin

I guess the one that needs to fuck off is not me but you that joined a war you cannot win, keep insulting as much you like MATE LEGENDARY SELF MADE MAN!! ( what an achievement in life, congrats, did you update the curriculum already?)

Ps. still awaiting the quote of me saying an Api Key is a Bitcoin private key, having troubles finding it ? I will give you a hint, it doesn't exist   Roll Eyes

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November 14, 2019, 12:46:08 PM
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i'm right on what API KEYS are.

Anybody can copy-paste from wikipedia, who the fuck do you think you are - a 7th grader doing a school project?

API keys don't act as Bitcoin private keys though, and if you are having trouble with the context for that claim - follow the links in your trust ratings.
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Welcome in the roasting show mate

1) I am not your mate
2) This is the retarded CryptoSharks show not a roasting show
3) Fuck off you retarded Pajeet

Oh i see only now you're also promoting the stupidest bot in circulation, Gunbot  Grin Grin  Grin

I guess the one that needs to fuck off is not me but you that joined a war you cannot win, keep insulting as much you like MATE LEGENDARY SELF MADE MAN!! ( what an achievement in life, congrats, did you update the curriculum already?)

Yes, you are fighting with some of the most foolish and clearly double standards deceptive members here. Tman for example is an undeniable auction scammer, self confessed trust abuser, implicated in extortion schemes and yet all his pals here including nutildah a self confessed scam facilitator are here to punish you for making what they insist are false claims.

This is the issue with this forum. You can not have people that are confirmed scammers and willing scam facilitators for pay punishing others it simply does NOT WORK.

I mean in the context of their own actions nobody would claim your actions should have a red tag or flag. However if they were all squeaky clean and the context was that ANY ACTIONS that could be demonstrated as PROBABLE high risk could get a warning then that would just be how it is.

The onus on them would be to demonstrate how probable the high risk would be. Cases like this are kind of impossible to prove because you could have huge reserves of your own to make sure guarantees. The point about conflating bitcoin key with this api key could simply be adapted on your part for extra clarity to the investors if they wished.

This is the problem with the trust system ONLY type 2 flags and above have any kind of objective standards that must be met. The rest is just down right now to the discretion of a bunch of undeniable scammers and scumbags who's own actions introduce a context of acceptable behavior that makes pretty much anything acceptable. On top of that their discretion is dependent upon their own reliance of income from competing projects. The entire thing is broken below type 2 flags.

So there is nothing you can do at all except point out the double standards here and hope for objective standards be introduced for the entire trust system. Even though should that be introduced I think the standards will always be developed that demonstrate a warning could be sensible for claims of huge % returns that are guaranteed.

I think a slight rewording and removing any guarantees ( although you may have reserves to make those) and a slight tweak to the description of bitcoin key /api key thing and THEY would have NO grounds to put warnings on your project.  

Something like:  based on past trades we think it is likely you will get x returns in future but no guarantees.
and the bitcoin/api key specifics drilled down on

Then you can certainly ask for the red and flags to be taken down. I would rather you blast them for their double standards and clear personal scamming, but that probably will not immediately or even long term be best in your specific case.

Even without guarantees most people are so hopeless at trading they will likely put a little bit with you to see if they can get some returns anyway.

Just read all of that and if you see clear issues then bring them up. I am simply saying what I think is best for you at this point and those that will use your bot. I think the results look interesting. I prefer to do research based trading myself after talking with the dev teams but that is time consuming and you need to be friends with several developers to get some kind of useful feedback to compare. These bots may be using some kind of system to gain % that I have no understanding of, so I don't know how successful they can be longterm.



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November 14, 2019, 01:15:53 PM
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It's nice seeing the hypertroll stepping in to help CryptoSparks but his efforts are in vain because CryptoSparks just keeps on lying (800 BTC LOL) so his neg trust and flags will likely stay on for a long long time.

He's going to say "API keys can act as a bitcoin private key,"

Touché.

I think we went over this already but theoretically you could make an "API" that interfaced with the blockchain and signed transactions with it or moved coins, or whatever.

That's like saying a bitcoin wallet (or wallet password?) can act as a Bitcoin private key, because it does transactions and whatnot, but I digress. The context of the claim was indeed that

they certainly don't do this for Bitmex or any other exchange, or anywhere.
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It's nice seeing the hypertroll stepping in to help CryptoSparks but his efforts are in vain because CryptoSparks just keeps on lying (800 BTC LOL) so his neg trust and flags will likely stay on for a long long time.

He's going to say "API keys can act as a bitcoin private key,"

Touché.

I think we went over this already but theoretically you could make an "API" that interfaced with the blockchain and signed transactions with it or moved coins, or whatever.

That's like saying a bitcoin wallet (or wallet password?) can act as a Bitcoin private key, because it does transactions and whatnot, but I digress. The context of the claim was indeed that

they certainly don't do this for Bitmex or any other exchange, or anywhere.

Nice to see the liar suchmoon who has us on ignore and does not read our posts... is still reading them all haha

I am simply giving the advice I see as the most optimal for this forum and all members here. Sorry if you don't think that is what we are all here for.

If you think he needs to demonstrate he has 800btc also that is for further debate and we are not contesting that at this stage.

However your false accusation of hypertroll has been clearly debunked and destroyed since you have run away from numerous challenges to present the central points of ours that you have debunked and undeniably demonstrated are untrue.
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i'm right on what API KEYS are.

Anybody can copy-paste from wikipedia, who the fuck do you think you are - a 7th grader doing a school project?

API keys don't act as Bitcoin private keys though, and if you are having trouble with the context for that claim - follow the links in your trust ratings.

Hilarious. Is called referencing. I know you don't like quoting sources but prefer lying so.. please stop making fun of yourself lady, go to the park feeding ducks, tech is not for you.
And i see you have kinda of reputation on this forum, here and there you expose your ignorance. Glad other people noticed it.



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Thanks for the advice, i really appreciated. Anyway i don't care about the trust system on this forum, Arakne's army is growing day by day while this forum has become a joke and a lot of people left already, and more leave constantly. Website stats don't lie.


API keys don't act as Bitcoin private keys though, and if you are having trouble with the context for that claim - follow the links in your trust ratings.

He's going to say "API keys can act as a bitcoin private key," to which I would say, "no, they cannot."

I think we went over this already but theoretically you could make an "API" that interfaced with the blockchain and signed transactions with it or moved coins, or whatever. However, they certainly don't do this for Bitmex or any other exchange, or anywhere.

His location on his profile tells you all you need to know about him:



If this is the case, he must be one of the most ignorant people on his home planet, or this one.

Really what OP is saying is he isn't drumming up enough business from his Services thread, so he's attempting to do it from others, hoping at least a few people will take his claims at face value and sign up to be part of his "army." Since he failed to address my question in his Reputation thread while continuing to be a cunt here, I see no point in continuing to perform "free advertising" for him.*

*though if reading this thread makes you want to sign up for his bot, you must have serious comprehension problems

Funny how the first attacks were :

There's no bot!! He's a ponzi maker!

Then you moved to:

There can't be profitable IA Bots, market is black magic!!

But since Arakne is killing it with 75 wins in a row that everyone can verify with the Public Api Key, all attacks moved to a definition that you misunderstood and that has nothing to do with my business since all I require is a public api key with trading privileges.

I feel like shooting on the ambulance. Please go spam your casinos or hide under a rock, whatever.


ps. Oh sorry, i didn't check your nonsense on the other topic, i will reply and roast you there too. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Then you moved to:

There can't be profitable IA Bots, market is black magic!!

Never said that. Stop lying, if you're capable.

But since Arakne is killing it with 75 wins in a row that everyone can verify with the Public Api Key, all attacks moved to a definition that you misunderstood and that has nothing to do with my business since all I require is a public api key with trading privileges.

LOL, definition I misunderstood. That's rich.

I'm just not impressed with a return of $22.50 that took over 2 months to achieve, sorry. That is, after all, the only thing you actually have on record, despite your big talk and claims of having an 800 BTC bankroll. For everybody who wants to see how "honest" this guy actually is I recommend checking out recent claims he's made in the Reputation thread.

ps. Oh sorry, i didn't check your nonsense on the other topic, i will reply and roast you there too. Thanks for pointing that out.

Ooh... "Roasted" by a tiny cock with the world's smallest toy flamethrower. It burns.




Keep belittle a 75 win streak and + 34% with 100% winrate all you want. You will never be able to achieve similar results.



Oh you guys are so easy to roast that i'm almost losing interest.

How hard can it be to understand that in trading you always need to think in terms of % ? Find me another hedge fund that can keep a +35% per month with 97% win rate over at least 2 years and in the most manipulated market in existence.

How hard can it be to understand that the account i'm showing is not my personal account and is there only to give evidences that the bot is legit? Anyone can access it by linking the following API KEY to portfolio trackers like
https://www.coinmarketman.com:

ID:
Code:
_rbjC_vOwJBRupytRPo7nxYI
SECRET:
Code:
V8AU7GvMLSry4mpKnKD1Bu8PBuYpLZx88dfn40Nkq1Dm59GE


How hard can it be to understand that every client of mine has and controls his own private bitmex account and that i'm not entitled to display them ?


How hard can it be to understand that they only give me API KEYS with trading privileges only and the bots connect to their bitmex safely ?


I guess, for some retarded people, pretty hard.

 





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