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September 15, 2019, 01:29:40 PM
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If I have found a wallet with 30 addresses and I have the proof that the owner of the wallet cheated with 10 or more accounts, do you will tag all accounts on the wallet?

My investigation is ongoing but this person has around 30 accounts on the same wallet, maybe a lot more looking on the merit suspicious history.

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September 15, 2019, 01:38:23 PM
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Abusing bounty is tagable if there are solid connection between accounts. So I do not think this is an issue at all. However if it comes up like this that this is my friends account and he does not know how to use a bitcoin wallet then it's hard to prove. The same can happen with family members :-P

Imagine:  Husband, wife, son, daughter, grand ma, grand pa, nephew, niece and possibly all are using same wallet and have different bitcointalk accounts.

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September 15, 2019, 01:45:53 PM
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For sure nobody has 10 random friends that want to join on the same thing, at the same time, on the same forum with the same wallet.

They are obvious alts.

The question is for the others accounts, they are now used on relevant signatures and if I will tag them all they he probably will be kicked out.

So even if maybe has no cheated with the very high-rank accounts... (I'm still looking at the history of these accounts) does he deserve a tag on every account?

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September 15, 2019, 02:03:15 PM
Last edit: September 15, 2019, 03:01:59 PM by The Pharmacist
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I stopped tagging members based on that kind of evidence a while ago, because invariably I'd hear from one or more of the accounts that they were pooling funds in a single wallet to avoid some sort of exchange fees--and while I think it's far more likely that cheating is what's happening, it certainly is possible that what these people told me is the truth.  In the end, I don't know what to believe so I started giving them the benefit of the doubt.

That said, I'm only one member of DT and others might feel very differently and would be willing to tag accounts based on address linkage.  In fact I'm pretty sure of it.  On the other hand, there are a lot of new DT members and some of the old ones have dropped off the list, so who knows.  Keep up the good detective work in any case.

Edit:

I see the merit connections and my name is there on the picture, but I have no connection with Indamuck.  Just sayin'.

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September 15, 2019, 02:16:26 PM
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If, the address that is connected to the Alt account, is contained in the user's profile, the same address and registered at the same bounty.
I agree, will mark everything if it is proven that Alt cheated on one campaign.

And vice versa, like @ Royse777, say.
Some people who are new to bounty are quite layperson in terms of transferring assets, so they need someone to do it. Who are quite professional in the sale of assets, coins / tokens obtained from gifts, to certain markets.


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If, as I mentioned above, proven Alt and cheating in one bounty, I have the same thoughts as you.

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Basically, he used the low ranked accounts to abuse this survey from @hampuz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5050824.0
I used my Stake addy for that survey, so if someone else did that too, you can probably find a connection this way.

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Basically, he used the low ranked accounts to abuse this survey from @hampuz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5050824.0
I used my Stake addy for that survey, so if someone else did that too, you can probably find a connection this way.
OP, see it really is not easy to be 100% sure that they are alt accounts however you have done a very good job.

I see the merit connections and my name is there on the picture, but I have no connection with Indamuck.  Just sayin'.
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September 15, 2019, 03:11:31 PM
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I used my Stake addy for that survey, so if someone else did that too, you can probably find a connection this way.

Your address is part of a wallet with ~17k addresses, and most exchange/gambling site/etc wallets would look like that.

What coinlocket$ uncovered looks very much like someone's private wallet, merely 26 addresses. I'd love to hear the explanation from the accounts involved.

I see the merit connections and my name is there on the picture, but I have no connection with Indamuck.  Just sayin'.
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I'm in the picture as well, we're both busted LOL... theymos and satoshi too...
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September 15, 2019, 03:28:16 PM
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~snip~

I'm in the picture as well, we're both busted LOL... theymos and satoshi too...
There are more!
You are part of Foxpup's merit cycling club, so does LoyceV. Foxpup is the parent of the tree so, LoyceV and Foxpup is busted too.

More?
You, LoyceV, The Pharmacist all are in Chipmixer and DarkStar_ is the parent tree here meaning DarkStar_ is busted too.

Now since Chipmixer head is involved meaning the entire Chipmixer gang are alt to each others :-P

Hhampuz was robbed :-D

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EDIT: I would also love to hear some explanations from the users above.

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-snip-
Nice work.
You should post this in the Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2019 Q3) thread.

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Nice work coinlocket$. I had 33bitcoin under my radar a 1-2 years ago and had his actual facebook profile at one point while doing my investigation. There was a mining equipment site with 33bitcoin.com which had many scam accusations. I somehow feel that both this profile and the site maybe related.

BTW: Did you run bpip check for any bans on any of these profiles?
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Last edit: September 15, 2019, 06:28:35 PM by fillippone
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~snip~
<wall of sarcasm>
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EDIT: I would also love to hear some explanations from the users above.

Wow! Seems like a lot of other spots will be available in next Chipmixer campaign opening!
Time again to polish and flex muscle!
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Good work Coinlocket$.
This good work calls from explanation from involved accounts as alts account are a clear violation of many forum rules.

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September 15, 2019, 04:41:03 PM
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For sure nobody has 10 random friends that want to join on the same thing, at the same time, on the same forum with the same wallet.

They are obvious alts.

The question is for the others accounts, they are now used on relevant signatures and if I will tag them all they he probably will be kicked out.

So even if maybe has no cheated with the very high-rank accounts... (I'm still looking at the history of these accounts) does he deserve a tag on every account?



Don't appreciate you making accusastions which basically amounts to witch hunting.  I do have some family members that use this forum and have also pooled funds before with my runescape clan members to cover our event expenses.  I only have one forum account and I am free to send merit to anyone that I want if I believe the post is good enough.
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September 15, 2019, 04:50:14 PM
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Don't appreciate you making accusastions which basically amounts to witch hunting.  I do have some family members that use this forum and have also pooled funds before with my runescape clan members to cover our event expenses.  I only have one forum account and I am free to send merit to anyone that I want if I believe the post is good enough.

How did your family/clan members ended up giving you their private keys?
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Don't appreciate you making accusastions which basically amounts to witch hunting.  I do have some family members that use this forum and have also pooled funds before with my runescape clan members to cover our event expenses.  I only have one forum account and I am free to send merit to anyone that I want if I believe the post is good enough.

How did your family/clan members ended up giving you their private keys?

Its not rocket science................ Copy Paste Send, Import. Much Difficulty, Such wow
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Don't appreciate you making accusastions which basically amounts to witch hunting.  I do have some family members that use this forum and have also pooled funds before with my runescape clan members to cover our event expenses.  I only have one forum account and I am free to send merit to anyone that I want if I believe the post is good enough.

How did your family/clan members ended up giving you their private keys?

Its not rocket science................ Copy Paste Send, Import. Much Difficulty, Such wow

Are you saying that 12 13 people decided to give your their private keys instead of just sending bitcoins to you? I find this hard to believe.

It's a bit more than just copy-paste, you have to export the key first and that's not a trivial thing in most wallets, but I digress.
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Don't appreciate you making accusastions which basically amounts to witch hunting.  I do have some family members that use this forum and have also pooled funds before with my runescape clan members to cover our event expenses.  I only have one forum account and I am free to send merit to anyone that I want if I believe the post is good enough.

How did your family/clan members ended up giving you their private keys?

Its not rocket science................ Copy Paste Send, Import. Much Difficulty, Such wow

Are you saying that 12 people decided to give your their private keys instead of just sending bitcoins to you? I find this hard to believe.
I didn't say that they gave me their private keys, I did share the wallet with a few family members of mine ( I won't say who),  rest was runescape clan members and I told them how they could earn some btc for our clan so gave them addresses of the electrum wallet so we had our funds pooled.

I understand that it is basically just my word vs whatever you guys want to believe at the end of the day.




electrum is super easy to export and sweep, maybe difficult for a noob but thats off topic.
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September 15, 2019, 05:19:53 PM
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I didn't say that they gave me their private keys

Roll Eyes

rest was runescape clan members and I told them how they could earn some btc for our clan so gave them addresses of the electrum wallet so we had our funds pooled.

What are the TX IDs of the pooled funds being spent?

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@Suchmoon actually 18-19 people accounts.

And "casually" almost all of them deleted their message after the payment? (only 1 or 2 is still there maybe for forgetfulness)

The archive is there from @loyceV http://loyce.club/other/survey-entries.html

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3JZ3AWXMmoGNjCdW1Zi842W8w5fLzfhuqB


On this transaction to an (I guess) exchange, we also have some BTC from

Indamuck1BpwEQmhHKZyCQqs9NSEHm8zXefkiLFDjH   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4509006.40 http://archive.fo/Lerk9

0.07 btc

1BpwEQmhHKZyCQqs9NSEHm8zXefkiLFDjH

to

1DvLBiwHjMpqVeenJRNxUAGq3VNF2HekAQ 0.036 btc




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