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September 15, 2019, 01:29:40 PM |
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If I have found a wallet with 30 addresses and I have the proof that the owner of the wallet cheated with 10 or more accounts, do you will tag all accounts on the wallet?
My investigation is ongoing but this person has around 30 accounts on the same wallet, maybe a lot more looking on the merit suspicious history.
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September 15, 2019, 01:38:23 PM |
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Abusing bounty is tagable if there are solid connection between accounts. So I do not think this is an issue at all. However if it comes up like this that this is my friends account and he does not know how to use a bitcoin wallet then it's hard to prove. The same can happen with family members :-P
Imagine: Husband, wife, son, daughter, grand ma, grand pa, nephew, niece and possibly all are using same wallet and have different bitcointalk accounts.
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September 15, 2019, 01:45:53 PM |
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For sure nobody has 10 random friends that want to join on the same thing, at the same time, on the same forum with the same wallet.
They are obvious alts.
The question is for the others accounts, they are now used on relevant signatures and if I will tag them all they he probably will be kicked out.
So even if maybe has no cheated with the very high-rank accounts... (I'm still looking at the history of these accounts) does he deserve a tag on every account?
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I stopped tagging members based on that kind of evidence a while ago, because invariably I'd hear from one or more of the accounts that they were pooling funds in a single wallet to avoid some sort of exchange fees--and while I think it's far more likely that cheating is what's happening, it certainly is possible that what these people told me is the truth. In the end, I don't know what to believe so I started giving them the benefit of the doubt.
That said, I'm only one member of DT and others might feel very differently and would be willing to tag accounts based on address linkage. In fact I'm pretty sure of it. On the other hand, there are a lot of new DT members and some of the old ones have dropped off the list, so who knows. Keep up the good detective work in any case.
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I see the merit connections and my name is there on the picture, but I have no connection with Indamuck. Just sayin'.
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If, the address that is connected to the Alt account, is contained in the user's profile, the same address and registered at the same bounty. I agree, will mark everything if it is proven that Alt cheated on one campaign.
And vice versa, like @ Royse777, say. Some people who are new to bounty are quite layperson in terms of transferring assets, so they need someone to do it. Who are quite professional in the sale of assets, coins / tokens obtained from gifts, to certain markets.
Note: If, as I mentioned above, proven Alt and cheating in one bounty, I have the same thoughts as you.
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Basically, he used the low ranked accounts to abuse this survey from @hampuz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5050824.0And skipped it with the good accounts. 13 Accounts Connected:IndamuckBitBustahRAGEmondRAGEmond33bitcoingreen547atliens99angel55bigmelons25byebyehinostringsfairyvibeslightcarnaturerockButterscotchCartmanProof:https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/003585d3c016b58d/addressesAddresses are on the same wallet. Related Addresses:1BpwEQmhHKZyCQqs9NSEHm8zXefkiLFDjH 1MWdegQUtSvkYAK943eAMCLuY9w58dfqa 19suREnnQrixUZn3BnTb28ootrFugzbryR 19evHEeYsLk5PXj9ihvBTR5NYRhtaBEW9A 1FKqAFhzHEGHTX5Ur86Qenh37rCoh4eWAt 1MK4Pkf7LhxNsgNxwHXFZtHj6jvW15qCpD 1LYBVyUxbxAwp3AzaD2i8UvkxL1V694oPe 1DD4J4GcfUJGHGUD9Yd3dXvUgUSLj9DYji 1Byhx1M45Qh8paRd4CRFDsqP8iP3yuNHTn 144e4PEDpU8JNEJ5WjZRhxjTiWMVa9NiPt 1NwB3G8roM4v7xnaZ6XFnxCw2JiGDfT4Ff 13fWidifmmqWC8tzQMs5sPhY3JypwaUZQY 13N6cMpa5Bh5yxanTZ4ZFHKjCiJCTQ4jrA 17CsA6hyqaSjgzCveFDDfPZifr5tp5MmaR 1493RSPUE2pT8pj2CPoyjJXEMxp4MAxiWc 1HZthSoYw7SLShd35Qq4EkBJsGuG2nMBRF 19DHbpNwdtrLd6nXdtH4VuBAtsyBeqpuJt 1ENH3jAZBpJ2Fs9t8CA2CDZoQ8fDsvbdUk 13UiNfVrGN9EBdqptW1xxadWoRRfQoghng 1595fj5o6qwvvhn98vw9AZ4smp5sC1CKdV 18FeZFP75mqMsDTzn1VG6WQyxRrW3HXk6r 1C3NvE1ajiGSiYQVL1LfjuUiz6pjz41Hi9 1DYi5HXnhDJte7xhkMGCA6Xns2iHchvLn6 1HoWrkvDxeBTupMhGrza52XscR91HPGbC4 1JkkTpaPkJ3bTkqcDxJenRjzexaLwuw91g 1shFTqqW54i7LoQtuBJTZDnFYS4xRcb7L
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I used my Stake addy for that survey, so if someone else did that too, you can probably find a connection this way.
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I used my Stake addy for that survey, so if someone else did that too, you can probably find a connection this way. OP, see it really is not easy to be 100% sure that they are alt accounts however you have done a very good job. I see the merit connections and my name is there on the picture, but I have no connection with Indamuck. Just sayin'.
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I used my Stake addy for that survey, so if someone else did that too, you can probably find a connection this way.
Your address is part of a wallet with ~17k addresses, and most exchange/gambling site/etc wallets would look like that. What coinlocket$ uncovered looks very much like someone's private wallet, merely 26 addresses. I'd love to hear the explanation from the accounts involved. I see the merit connections and my name is there on the picture, but I have no connection with Indamuck. Just sayin'.
:-P I'm in the picture as well, we're both busted LOL... theymos and satoshi too...
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I'm in the picture as well, we're both busted LOL... theymos and satoshi too...
There are more! You are part of Foxpup's merit cycling club, so does LoyceV. Foxpup is the parent of the tree so, LoyceV and Foxpup is busted too. More? You, LoyceV, The Pharmacist all are in Chipmixer and DarkStar_ is the parent tree here meaning DarkStar_ is busted too. Now since Chipmixer head is involved meaning the entire Chipmixer gang are alt to each others :-P Hhampuz was robbed :-D /s EDIT: I would also love to hear some explanations from the users above.
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Nice work coinlocket$. I had 33bitcoin under my radar a 1-2 years ago and had his actual facebook profile at one point while doing my investigation. There was a mining equipment site with 33bitcoin.com which had many scam accusations. I somehow feel that both this profile and the site maybe related. BTW: Did you run bpip check for any bans on any of these profiles?
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~snip~ <wall of sarcasm> /s
EDIT: I would also love to hear some explanations from the users above.
Wow! Seems like a lot of other spots will be available in next Chipmixer campaign opening! Time again to polish and flex muscle! /s Good work Coinlocket$. This good work calls from explanation from involved accounts as alts account are a clear violation of many forum rules.
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BitBustah
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September 15, 2019, 04:41:03 PM |
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For sure nobody has 10 random friends that want to join on the same thing, at the same time, on the same forum with the same wallet.
They are obvious alts.
The question is for the others accounts, they are now used on relevant signatures and if I will tag them all they he probably will be kicked out.
So even if maybe has no cheated with the very high-rank accounts... (I'm still looking at the history of these accounts) does he deserve a tag on every account?
Don't appreciate you making accusastions which basically amounts to witch hunting. I do have some family members that use this forum and have also pooled funds before with my runescape clan members to cover our event expenses. I only have one forum account and I am free to send merit to anyone that I want if I believe the post is good enough.
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suchmoon
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September 15, 2019, 04:50:14 PM |
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Don't appreciate you making accusastions which basically amounts to witch hunting. I do have some family members that use this forum and have also pooled funds before with my runescape clan members to cover our event expenses. I only have one forum account and I am free to send merit to anyone that I want if I believe the post is good enough.
How did your family/clan members ended up giving you their private keys?
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BitBustah
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September 15, 2019, 05:05:04 PM |
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Don't appreciate you making accusastions which basically amounts to witch hunting. I do have some family members that use this forum and have also pooled funds before with my runescape clan members to cover our event expenses. I only have one forum account and I am free to send merit to anyone that I want if I believe the post is good enough.
How did your family/clan members ended up giving you their private keys? Its not rocket science................ Copy Paste Send, Import. Much Difficulty, Such wow
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suchmoon
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September 15, 2019, 05:10:11 PM |
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Don't appreciate you making accusastions which basically amounts to witch hunting. I do have some family members that use this forum and have also pooled funds before with my runescape clan members to cover our event expenses. I only have one forum account and I am free to send merit to anyone that I want if I believe the post is good enough.
How did your family/clan members ended up giving you their private keys? Its not rocket science................ Copy Paste Send, Import. Much Difficulty, Such wow Are you saying that 12 13 people decided to give your their private keys instead of just sending bitcoins to you? I find this hard to believe. It's a bit more than just copy-paste, you have to export the key first and that's not a trivial thing in most wallets, but I digress.
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BitBustah
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September 15, 2019, 05:12:08 PM |
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Don't appreciate you making accusastions which basically amounts to witch hunting. I do have some family members that use this forum and have also pooled funds before with my runescape clan members to cover our event expenses. I only have one forum account and I am free to send merit to anyone that I want if I believe the post is good enough.
How did your family/clan members ended up giving you their private keys? Its not rocket science................ Copy Paste Send, Import. Much Difficulty, Such wow Are you saying that 12 people decided to give your their private keys instead of just sending bitcoins to you? I find this hard to believe. I didn't say that they gave me their private keys, I did share the wallet with a few family members of mine ( I won't say who), rest was runescape clan members and I told them how they could earn some btc for our clan so gave them addresses of the electrum wallet so we had our funds pooled. I understand that it is basically just my word vs whatever you guys want to believe at the end of the day. electrum is super easy to export and sweep, maybe difficult for a noob but thats off topic.
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September 15, 2019, 05:19:53 PM |
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I didn't say that they gave me their private keys
rest was runescape clan members and I told them how they could earn some btc for our clan so gave them addresses of the electrum wallet so we had our funds pooled.
What are the TX IDs of the pooled funds being spent?
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September 15, 2019, 07:45:04 PM |
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@Suchmoon actually 18-19 people accounts. And "casually" almost all of them deleted their message after the payment? (only 1 or 2 is still there maybe for forgetfulness) The archive is there from @loyceV http://loyce.club/other/survey-entries.html1shFTqqW54i7LoQtuBJTZDnFYS4xRcb7L 13N6cMpa5Bh5yxanTZ4ZFHKjCiJCTQ4jrA 17CsA6hyqaSjgzCveFDDfPZifr5tp5MmaR 19suREnnQrixUZn3BnTb28ootrFugzbryR 1C3NvE1ajiGSiYQVL1LfjuUiz6pjz41Hi9 1HoWrkvDxeBTupMhGrza52XscR91HPGbC4 1NwB3G8roM4v7xnaZ6XFnxCw2JiGDfT4Ff 1BpwEQmhHKZyCQqs9NSEHm8zXefkiLFDjH 1MK4Pkf7LhxNsgNxwHXFZtHj6jvW15qCpD 1FKqAFhzHEGHTX5Ur86Qenh37rCoh4eWAt 1DD4J4GcfUJGHGUD9Yd3dXvUgUSLj9DYji 13fWidifmmqWC8tzQMs5sPhY3JypwaUZQY 144e4PEDpU8JNEJ5WjZRhxjTiWMVa9NiPt 1493RSPUE2pT8pj2CPoyjJXEMxp4MAxiWc 18FeZFP75mqMsDTzn1VG6WQyxRrW3HXk6r 1Byhx1M45Qh8paRd4CRFDsqP8iP3yuNHTn 1DYi5HXnhDJte7xhkMGCA6Xns2iHchvLn6 1JkkTpaPkJ3bTkqcDxJenRjzexaLwuw91g 1LYBVyUxbxAwp3AzaD2i8UvkxL1V694oPe
Transactions are from the addresses used by Hampuz for the payment. 3KzsFzjLFSuF9rjj7Cez9YPHNYZ56T4dqw 3JZ3AWXMmoGNjCdW1Zi842W8w5fLzfhuqB On this transaction to an (I guess) exchange, we also have some BTC from Indamuck1BpwEQmhHKZyCQqs9NSEHm8zXefkiLFDjH https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4509006.40 http://archive.fo/Lerk90.07 btc 1BpwEQmhHKZyCQqs9NSEHm8zXefkiLFDjH to 1DvLBiwHjMpqVeenJRNxUAGq3VNF2HekAQ 0.036 btc
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