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September 16, 2019, 12:30:02 PM
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September 16, 2019, 03:07:01 PM
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And I believe it can be done!!

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September 16, 2019, 03:12:20 PM
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Japanese proverb: "The water of even a great ocean comes one drop at a time"
I'm not sure that's exactly true, because all the oceans were already in place when whatever Japanese person coined the proverb. 

In any case, I'd be interested to know at least a few details about what you're planning, though I think you're just blowing smoke here.  But the reason for my interest is that I don't live all that far away from NYC.  I've always wondered how many N'Yawkers are into bitcoin--I'm sure it's a lot just based on the population alone, but I'm pretty sure there aren't dedicated crypto communites or organizations devoted to such.  Are there?

I've not visited NYC in a long time, but I'd love to go back one of these days.  If you ever do get anything started, keep this thread updated, eh?

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September 16, 2019, 03:18:09 PM
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The wheels are already in motion.  See this topic here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182596.msg52386343#msg52386343
 
 
 
"I have been out there scouting for a location in NYC.  The thing I see is that the city is having a real estate crisis with way too many empty retail spaces.  So I see this as a great opportunity for us.  Another thing I have learned is that our idea is just too small... It needs to be bigger and I mean much much bigger if we plan to really get something cool happening.

So I seen this area at East 34th Street, this is near the Empire State Building.  But the idea is that we need the whole street.  I mean the whole damn street needs to be converted into a new theme of crypto and Bitcoin related commerce with specialty store fronts, crypto cafes, the whole shabang.  Not just one store but a whole massive street dedicated to this.

Sure the rents are high.  But we need a whole (Major) street in Manhattan.  We need government and city support not just one or two angel investors because we need to make a street into a whole new concept style of: Crypto District.

There is already a store on East 34th Street for virtual reality.  See: www.vrworldnyc.com   We need to expand or partner with them, or just buy them out.  Our main partners need to be the city government itself with a push to expand the struggling commercial real estate issues into something more feasible that can solve an interesting combonation of concerns while adapting into the future of digital finance.

The kids will love it.
 
East 34th is busy as hell, that was the one thing I don't like about it.  It's not pedestrian friendly.  Maybe we need to keep scouting.   But we need to build New Yorks new Crypto District, not just some internet cafe, we need a whole road built out for this.  New York needs this.  The world needs this.
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September 19, 2019, 08:42:30 AM
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So I seen this area at East 34th Street, this is near the Empire State Building.  But the idea is that we need the whole street.  I mean the whole damn street needs to be converted into a new theme of crypto and Bitcoin related commerce with specialty store fronts, crypto cafes, the whole shabang.  Not just one store but a whole massive street dedicated to this.

Sure the rents are high. 

The rates would be astronomical for an entire street, not high, that's not even close.

We need government and city support not just one or two angel investors because we need to make a street into a whole new concept style of: Crypto District.

Do you honestly think the government is going to pump money into your plan just because kids might love it?
If they do this here would be thousands of lawsuits since other business will feel discriminated by this, which is essentially state aid.

New York needs this.  The world needs this."

Common, I understand your enthusiasm but the world will do fine even without a crypto street as if a hundred cafe and restaurants accepting bitcoin would solve something.
You should really start first your small business and then think of creating such a project, you're going to encounter a lot of surprises and things you had no idea about previously.  Things are not that easy out there, you don't set a shop and it starts raining customers and money.

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September 19, 2019, 04:34:21 PM
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Listen Buster, in a Free World a person can dream, scheme, and have wild ideas.  At least I am not some Negative Ninny like most of the Bitcoin Talkers who respond to my business plan topics (that is topics, plural, because this is numero tres).

I am a 58 year old guy here among a rather youthful crowd of people that have better computer skills than me, but I have real life business experience, and I have Zeel...  So you can say what you want to say and do what you want to do.

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September 19, 2019, 07:19:39 PM
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I am Building a Crypto District in New York City

Japanese proverb: "The water of even a great ocean comes one drop at a time"

You should defienetly use New Yorker proverbs. You are not gonna build crypto district in Tokio afterall.
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September 19, 2019, 09:25:34 PM
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Well let me tell you... A clever hawk hides it's claws.

And... Every journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step.

I may just have a few surprises up my sleeve?  Smiley
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September 20, 2019, 07:02:06 PM
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Already people have got united and has created separate cryptocurrency nation. This country has less than ten citizens. Creating a district in New York is not an easy task, because already they've got their own policies and laws to be followed. Building a crypto district needs everything to be changed with reference to legal formation. This is quite hard to implement in New York.

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September 20, 2019, 11:29:45 PM
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And I believe it can be done!!

Japanese proverb: "The water of even a great ocean comes one drop at a time"
Japan and America are countries that legalize cryptocurrency. if in new york like that, your dreams can come true

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September 20, 2019, 11:56:59 PM
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You might need a lot of time to process everything and it is not that easy because it is like you are making a pioneering business that you are the only one knows. That means you have a secret recipe/ingredients to make yourself one of the people that are on the top of the list.

And you also need the help of the people in order to build your dream/plan i guess you have the right charisma to unite people to join at your cause. Wink

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September 21, 2019, 02:41:34 AM
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The rates would be astronomical for an entire street, not high, that's not even close.
Again, I totally support OP for his crazy dream--but I don't think this sort of business model could justify renting out that much space in Manhattan.  You're absolutely correct that the rent would be astronomical.  Most people with decent incomes can't even afford to live in NYC as far as I know.  A friend of a friend rented a tiny little apartment in Manhattan about 15 years ago, and the rent was like $1500/month.  I can't even imagine how much it would cost to rent an entire block of buildings.  How would you even get financing for that with this proposal?  I'm trying not to be a "negative ninny" but damn.

And I was thinking about this since I wrote my previous post: isn't New York NOT crypto-friendly?  If I recall correctly, they were one of the first states where exchanges like Coinbase couldn't operate.  I could have the details wrong, but I do remember getting the impression that NY didn't support crypto-based businesses.  Hell, I just learned that residents in my state can't use Binance anymore (nor can New Yorkers for that matter).

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September 21, 2019, 03:17:41 AM
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And I believe it can be done!!

Japanese proverb: "The water of even a great ocean comes one drop at a time"
Japan and America are countries that legalize cryptocurrency. if in new york like that, your dreams can come true

It can be, it can't be. I know that the OP is wanting to help the community but there will always be an opposing party and I am not talking about the people disagreeing here, I am talking about the people that will abuse this crypto district when it is already built, someone that has the power to increase the tax from it since they can't tax investors of crypto currencies directly.

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"I'm pretty sure there aren't dedicated crypto communites or organizations devoted to such.  Are there?"
Yes this is happening in NYC.  Yes, but it is in infant stages.  I think it is a lot of people arriving on the scene and they can be overly ambitious and controlling but cryptocurrency appears to have an interesting profile of randomness and it is difficult to pin down within the context of old fashion business operations.  So, one person will not lead the show per se because the cryptocurrency environments can reject individual plans.

Something I notice is that females have entered the crypto job arena.  They have great jobs that must pay well, but are they really truly interested in this technology, or is it just their job?

"The rates would be astronomical for an entire street, not high, that's not even close. "
Oh heck yeah it would be astronomical.  But I am an optimist about it.  Plus there are tons of opportunities in NYC.  There are lesser expensive and run down areas, in outer boroughs, that are cheaper and have more room for this.

The thing about it is that crypto is going to be all over the city.  I am seeing a pattern that crypto is not something that can be contained in any one district.  However, housing a bunch of people with crypto jobs, to build a community concentrated like that, like a larger incubator with housing and buildings with their offices.  And food places.  Laundry.  To transform a run down area into a thriving crypto community.  Now that is more like it.  It still has possibilities.

"Do you honestly think the government is going to pump money into your plan just because kids might love it?"
NYC government is massive and it operates unlike any other city in the world.  I think the NYC government would be the #1 biggest supporter for this type of vision we are drafting up.  They would support the living Hell outta this sort of concept.  They already are I think.

"This is quite hard to implement in New York."
Man, Everything is hard in NY.  It is that way for me at least.  It may not be the largest city in the world but we are really massive with a mix of everybody and everything.  The amount of red tape in NYC, well it's weighty.  But crypto is here already.  It has already started.  There are hundreds of crypto related businesses here already.  Oh and how about Wall Street.  And the New York Stock Exchange.  This is still the world centerpiece of finance however you want to cut it.

It is probable that NYC is already the crypto capital of the world, and I am not just saying that.  The city has already recognized the importance of taking the lead on the race to digital assets and "blockchain".  It's important to NYC.


"Most people with decent incomes can't even afford to live in NYC as far as I know. "
Yeah that is definitely the most common way of looking at NYC rents. But think of it this way: there are also people here who have so much money and so much property that they do not know what to do with it all.  There are still plenty of vacant lots in outer boroughs.

There are people who get gifted whole portfolios of buildings for nothings day.  It seriously happens.  There is magic to money.  I mean look back at Walt Disney.  He built a fucking cartoon castle in a remote and uninhabitable swamp.  He built the castle before anything else was ready.  That castle was enough to keep the workers interested and believing in his wild vision.  Now look at Florida!


"Hell, I just learned that residents in my state can't use Binance anymore (nor can New Yorkers for that matter)."
The best thing that ever happened to New York was Binance blocking us.  We don't need Binance.  Thank you Binance!  You always sucked!
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I support your dream and your goal, it's not going to be easy but don't do it by yourself ask for helps from experts in that area I'm sure you can find one, you can form a group, ask people to share their experiences, give them pamphlets, and most important lead by example you should be an investor, if you reach that goal, people can imitate what you've achieved in that region.

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September 21, 2019, 04:33:30 PM
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I thin united state is not allowing for cryptocurrency become legal payment, Trump really hate about bitcoin and altcoin and how come you will have crypto district in New York city.
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September 25, 2019, 02:08:21 AM
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Let's get back to the basics, alright...
 
 
 
 
We need to build a Crypto District.
It needs to be in NYC.
And we need sit down and talk with somebody with huge influence, like the mayor
Or the governor, or somebody very influential like that.
And we need to speak with them Directly,
Directly meaning: with no interference from distracting people jumping in the way.
Just you, me, and the mayor or somebody like that who can truly lift this dream up and make it a reality...

And we need a Business Pitch.
A business pitch unlike any other!
We need like a 3-layer Business Pitch.  That includes:
1. A 15-20 second pitch to immediately grab any Decision Markers short attention span (They're Already Hooked you see!!)
2. Then a 1-5 minute pitch to describe and expand upon our idea and really lay it out for Decisions Makers (Start telling them how this will benefit NYC and it will benefit their own political strengths, Exponentially!!!)
3. And lastly a 5-10 minute spiel to smooth out the details, to give them The Inside Scoop and The Blueprint showing how other stakeholders will be tied in, and, a Timeline with our goal posts, what we need to do in order to achieve those goals, and how to arrive there successfully

We need something like a Visual Aid...
We need something like a 3D model or a series of poster boards
With Artists Renderings...
Something that depicts something in an irresistible fashion
Something with undeniable Style
And Class,
Yet it is realistic and obtainable.

This is something we all really want to sink our teethes into,
But it's something we all wonder if it can be done or not...
Like that lingering doubt
Matched with undertones of excitement and undeniable energy.
Something we have never quite seen before unless maybe in The Movies,
But something with Big Possibilities,
And something that peaks everybody's interest....

The Crypto District is for absolutely Everyone.

We need to get in to see the governor,
We need to say our piece,
Make a memorable and convincing case,
Get out
And then follow up.

Now the Ball is Really Rolling!!

We need to Create a Spectacle.

A spectacle of sorts with a future unfolding that people just can't quiet put their fingers on exactly what it is,
But their interests are still peaked enough that they might want to be part of it,
Or at the very least they want to see the District built, they support the concept clearly.
Many may just want to sit on the sidelines, talk about the project with people, and enjoy and root the project on
Follow it's progress in The News,
And just see what happens

Anything can happen with this.

Does the mayor and governor already know that Satoshi literally started our message board here???
Do they already know that we have over 2.5 Million registered members and counting???
FYI, that is a TON of members we have!~
Well, now they know....

Let me ask you this:
How many Trillion dollars worth of Crypto is already floating around out there already?
How much, huh?
Any statistic experts out there want to Chime In? Anybody have The Answer???
We must be talking Trillions Of Dollars, right?
For the love of Crypto, somebody get us some solid stats about how much this industry is currently worth....

Let me put it to you this way....
Manhattan already has a Flower District,
It already has a Garment District,
Sure we all like the pretty flowers and plants...Who Doesn't?
And sure we all like some expertly sewn clothes and costumes too!!
But put that aside for one moment and let's take an honest appraisal at the sheer Economics here...
Because, Crypto is worth more than ANYTHING ELSE OUT THERE...
I rest my case on that..

This is a truly intriguing project.
Everybody wants to see this district grow and flourish....

Now let's get to work on this.
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September 29, 2019, 06:42:24 AM
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That is very nice to know. Bitcoin nowadays is an essential tool in our daily lives and portability is always a win situation for consumers using it as a payment processor. Envisioning something like this is also a great step in attracting more investors in Bitcoin.
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September 29, 2019, 08:26:15 AM
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I was expecting to see more than a Japanese proverb. It would be better if you included some of your thoughts and plans in what you're planning to do, how would you do it, its purpose and such... But just like what you believe, I agree with you that it can be done. It  will only take a lot of process, but everything will be worth it if you achieve your dream of building a crypto district in nyc. Goodluck, I guess..

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September 29, 2019, 09:59:44 AM
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We need to build a Crypto District.
It needs to be in NYC.
And we need sit down and talk with somebody with huge influence, like the mayor
Or the governor, or somebody very influential like that.
And we need to speak with them Directly,

Oh man... You chose NYC not knowing how the local government will react? You don't have a support of businesses, you don't have your own money, you haven't talked to any of the politicians. You have a great idea but such ideas need support from someone or something already in the early phase. Now you're like a kid who says he'll be an astronaut one day, without knowing if he has the brains and the physics to go through all the tests.
First go and talk to politicians and business owners and ask if some of them would support the project. Why did you choose NYC? It's not the cheapest of places and the Bitlicense sucks.

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