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September 16, 2019, 02:42:37 PM
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This probably isn't anything too interesting for other people, but it is for me.
I'm leaving my signature campaign and will not join any other ones for some time.

Mind you, I've been in a signature campaign constantly since 2014, so it's a pretty big step for me to just walk away from them.

I just don't want to deal with the hassle anymore, you know, having to post X amount of times per week...
Now, I doubt I will be any less active, but now I can purely post for fun without actually having to post.

The campaigns I've been in, were always great, never had any issues with the campaign managers, but after a while the obligation to post starts to wear on you.
I've probably spend some time responding to topics I wasn't really interested in, so it's great that I don't have to do that anymore...

I just thought this deserved to be put in a topic, hehe, I could almost shed a tear because being in a signature campaign was part of my life for so long.
Anyway, this might inspire others to take a break from signature campaigns and just enjoy Bitcointalk for what it is, without expecting payment for it Smiley

I'll probably have way more time to spend on my Steemit blog now and to participate with interesting projects here on Bitcointalk.
Had my first Bitcointalk meetup the other week, plus I'm participating in a very cool project, so I doubt that I'll spend any less time on here.

See y'all around and this time you can be 100% sure that whatever I say is because I mean it, instead of upping my post count. (Really, you can never be 100% sure when someone's in a signature campaign, no offence)

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September 16, 2019, 02:48:24 PM
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I don't know what campaign you were in since I have signatures blocked and never saw yours, and I just looked at your profile and you obviously removed your campaign signature--but what I was wondering was whether they had a minimum number of weekly posts or not.  I've been in campaigns with minimum posts, and I always hated that unless it was a very low number.

Now, I doubt I will be any less active, but now I can purely post for fun without actually having to post.
If that's the case, why are you going campaign-free?  The only reason I've been in signature campaigns was because I figured it'd be better to get paid for doing something I'd be doing anyway.  It would be like leaving money on the table if I didn't take part in one.

But hey, props to you if it makes you feel more free.  By the way, this might be better in Reputation or some other section.

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September 16, 2019, 02:57:31 PM
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I just don't want to deal with the hassle anymore, you know, having to post X amount of times per week...

after a while the obligation to post starts to wear on you.

Same... I don't like having to meet a quota so I haven't had a paid sig in like years..
I have applied to chipmixer a few times because I like that their is no minimum post limit and you won't get booted if you don't post for a week or whatever but I highly doubt I'll get in because my posting style isn't what they are looking for..
I was thinking about possibly asking Yahoo or someone if he could broker me a sig deal on such terms sometime but eh..

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By the way, this might be better in Reputation or some other section.

No please leave it here. All we ever seem to have in meta is people constantly feeding trolls at the moment it'll be nice to have something different for once (at least those are the ones that seem to get continuously bumped)...



I guess he left to be a bit more free, personally I'd give it a month and then you'd probably rejoin. I've had points where campaigns have closed that I'm in and I've just left for about a month for a break. It's quite nice every so often, I still stayed here and kept posting but it's just a bit different from being in a sig...

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September 16, 2019, 03:29:59 PM
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It was my last merit that I sent to OP, because OP mentioned the real truth. Most of campaign ask a minimum post count & posting board requirement. But fortunately we have to accept it whoever want to earn some extra money from here. Whoever paying they might have some requirement, this requirement has not  came from managers.

By the way enjoy your freedom.

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September 16, 2019, 03:31:41 PM
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I understand the temptation of earning while you post so you end up posting low quality content than you normally would because you simply aren't interested in the topic. However, think about joining a campaign which has no minimum posts. I've done that for a while, and have hit 0 posts within a period multiple times. I only get paid for discussion which I'm interested in contributing too rather than out of necessity of getting paid.
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September 16, 2019, 03:36:31 PM
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Pharmacist is one of the biggest shit posters, no he isn't a scammer or thief but he is constantly churning out his max amount of posts for chipmixer without really saying much.  
Just FYI, I haven't made the max number of posts for Chipmixer in many weeks (50).  Frankly, I'm having a hard time finding good threads to post in, ones where I actually have something to say.  And please, you can't say my posts are anywhere near as bad as the vast majority here which consist of short, nonsensical idiocy in broken English.  True, I don't write extremely long screeds raging against perceived injustices against....whatever....like you do, but I'm hardly a shitposter.

No please leave it here. All we ever seem to have in meta is people constantly feeding trolls at the moment it'll be nice to have something different for once (at least those are the ones that seem to get continuously bumped)...
Fair enough.  I didn't report it as being in the wrong section or anything; it was just a suggestion to OP because it has more to do with him personally than it does with the forum as a whole.

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And wow, how did this turn into a rant against The Pharmacist, that really wasn't my intention.
That's alright, the argument is over and I won't respond to any more salvos from the peanut gallery in your thread. 

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September 16, 2019, 03:37:18 PM
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I don't know what campaign you were in since I have signatures blocked and never saw yours, and I just looked at your profile and you obviously removed your campaign signature--but what I was wondering was whether they had a minimum number of weekly posts or not.  I've been in campaigns with minimum posts, and I always hated that unless it was a very low number.

Now, I doubt I will be any less active, but now I can purely post for fun without actually having to post.
If that's the case, why are you going campaign-free?  The only reason I've been in signature campaigns was because I figured it'd be better to get paid for doing something I'd be doing anyway.  It would be like leaving money on the table if I didn't take part in one.

But hey, props to you if it makes you feel more free.  By the way, this might be better in Reputation or some other section.

I've been in the Crypto-Games & Bitsler campaigns, they both had a 25 posts per week requirement.

Yeah, I totally get the "leaving money on the table" argument and that's why I'm still kinda leaving it open to join a campaign in the future.
Now it's just that I really do not have any external incentive to post, except pure interest, it just feels liberating in a way.



And wow, how did this turn into a rant against The Pharmacist, that really wasn't my intention.
I really didn't mean to shame people who were still active in signature campaigns, heck I have no moral qualms against people who are active in signature campaigns.

The posts I've seen The Pharmacist make were always on point, so I really don't agree with painting them in such a bad light.
Not every reply needs to be overly intellectual, sometimes people just enjoy to read regular stuff too...



I guess he left to be a bit more free, personally I'd give it a month and then you'd probably rejoin. I've had points where campaigns have closed thsa I'm in and I've just left for about a month for a break. It's quite nice every so often, I still stayed here and kept posting but it's just a bit different from being in a sig...

Hey, that could very well be the case, I do think I'd probably join a campaign without minimum post requirements.
OR
Maybe I'll just advertise a project that I'm really interested in and slap a referral link of my own on that.
I won't be making the same kind of money as in a regular Bitcoin signature campaign, but at least I'll have a warm fuzzy feeling Tongue

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September 16, 2019, 04:05:13 PM
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Freedom have different meaning or can be understood in different way by different individual. If I understood clearly you felt those campaigns were a burden to you since you had to meet certain amount of post per week before you get paid. In simple terms you didn't (or no longer) love what you were doing. Well, good for you but is there something else you're not telling us because I feel it took you quite some number of years to realize what you just said if that's the only reason you're quiting. Anyways congrats on your new journey.

Personally, I consider participating in signature campaigns to be a privilege, a privilege I have earned due to investing my time on the forum. Like they said "if you can't get a job you love then love what you're doing". I love participating in signature campaigns, not just because i get paid for it but because it also serve as a motivator to engage in more interesting discuss which at the end of the day benefits me even more than the projects I'm promoting.

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September 16, 2019, 04:10:50 PM
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@eternalgloom, nice and brave decision! You made some money here, as you are in sig campaigns since 2014, and that´s money is not free, you really put some effort here. Enjoy your break!

Personally, I am with @ThePharmacist, " It would be like leaving money on the table ", as I am going to be here anyway.

People talk so much about signature spammers, but few people talk about the contributions good members such as eternalgloom or many other here do.
I see that many signature campaign users make amazing contributions to the forum, and being paid for that is not a problem.

Many newbies come here everyday with technical questions and they receive support in less than 10 minutes  by 3-4 different users, who are able to help them !
This is very good for the forum and for the bitcoin community.

If there were no financial incentive, I doubt we would have so quick and quality replies for those legit newbie questions. This is important, in my opinion.
(There are many other good contributions, this was just an example)

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No one is forcing you to stop and do sig, while you are in this forum.
You are free to do what you have to do if you think it is bad and good.

However, most people here provide the best, knowledge, understanding, about Bitcoin that is currently being discussed by the world community.

The Bitcointalk forum is a place for people who need help, "Forums come uninvited, go unanswered". So you can choose to go or stay in the Forum.

Everyone has their own principles and goals, you say that (Q) is not necessarily someone else agrees with (Q).
For example, in your hometown there is a party with lavish and festive food, you can choose to come or not.

The decision is your.

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Holy shit wow. The sudden rant. Guess what? Regardless of The Pharmacist's intentions with his posts, regardless if it's solely for monetary gain or not, I don't mind. Why? Because he's been helpful as fuck to the community. You? All you do is talk smack. Get a life.

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September 16, 2019, 04:24:54 PM
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It is very nice to get paid a little bit to discuss things that are interesting to me. I have found myself sometimes trying to post to meet my quota when I didn’t have a lot of time to devote to researching and respond in an insightful manner.

I understand why campaigns do this, but I am not a fan of forcing users to post in certain subs and not count posts in other subs. I have found myself not posting in unpaid subs when there was an interesting topic and I had already met my quota. I also don’t want to post in specific subs when I may not be interested in any threads in the sub, which has caused me to avoid these campaigns.

I hope your time in signature campaigns allowed you to learn about crypto. This is, by far the best thing about signature campaigns.
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September 16, 2019, 04:59:59 PM
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Just FYI, I haven't made the max number of posts for Chipmixer in many weeks (50).  Frankly, I'm having a hard time finding good threads to post in, ones where I actually have something to say.  And please, you can't say my posts are anywhere near as bad as the vast majority here which consist of short, nonsensical idiocy in broken English.  True, I don't write extremely long screeds raging against perceived injustices against....whatever....like you do, but I'm hardly a shitposter.
I can not disagree with you.
There are some characteristics of good posters:
  • Having enough knowledge and experience (rules, boards; many things relate to bitcoin/ altcoins)
  • Spending time to find place to make decent posts (look for issues of other users, eg.)
  • Spending time to read, search, and compose and proof-read posts to answer or to help
  • Spending decent time each week to do this
The second step is important, because you can not make good posts if you can not find where to post. Without questions, you can not answer with decent posts.
Doing all those things, I don't see problems to make 50 decent posts per week (but time is always issue).  Cheesy

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September 16, 2019, 09:14:21 PM
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OP, After 5 years of constantly posting in the signature, it is a big move for you. I hope you will not be bored without the required posting.

It was my last merit that I sent to OP, because OP mentioned the real truth. Most of campaign ask a minimum post count & posting board requirement. But fortunately we have to accept it whoever want to earn some extra money from here. Whoever paying they might have some requirement, this requirement has not  came from managers.

By the way enjoy your freedom.

it's fair of you to give them merit, you take his place in Bitsler campaign Smiley

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September 16, 2019, 09:50:23 PM
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This probably isn't anything too interesting for other people, but it is for me.
I'm leaving my signature campaign and will not join any other ones for some time.

Mind you, I've been in a signature campaign constantly since 2014, so it's a pretty big step for me to just walk away from them.

I just don't want to deal with the hassle anymore, you know, having to post X amount of times per week...
Now, I doubt I will be any less active, but now I can purely post for fun without actually having to post.

The campaigns I've been in, were always great, never had any issues with the campaign managers, but after a while the obligation to post starts to wear on you.
I've probably spend some time responding to topics I wasn't really interested in, so it's great that I don't have to do that anymore...

I just thought this deserved to be put in a topic, hehe, I could almost shed a tear because being in a signature campaign was part of my life for so long.
Anyway, this might inspire others to take a break from signature campaigns and just enjoy Bitcointalk for what it is, without expecting payment for it Smiley

I'll probably have way more time to spend on my Steemit blog now and to participate with interesting projects here on Bitcointalk.
Had my first Bitcointalk meetup the other week, plus I'm participating in a very cool project, so I doubt that I'll spend any less time on here.

See y'all around and this time you can be 100% sure that whatever I say is because I mean it, instead of upping my post count. (Really, you can never be 100% sure when someone's in a signature campaign, no offence)

Well done Wink and good luck for your project!
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September 16, 2019, 11:16:10 PM
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I just don't want to deal with the hassle anymore, you know, having to post X amount of times per week...

I would hate that too. I've always thought having minimum required posts was a bad model. It incentivizes people to post when they don't want to, directly encouraging spam. It's probably easier on campaign managers but I don't see any other benefit.

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First of all congratulations and welcome to the club. We started our journey on BitcoinTalk almost at the same time, i.e. end of 2013. From ~1200$ to ~200$ to ~20000$ to ~2000$, we have seen a LOT. Like many others, my first taste of Bitcoin was from Signature Campaign as well. But, association with certain projects made me bid them good bye. Trust me, good projects are much more rewarding in the long run. In any case, if you think of wearing a signature for the benefit of Bitcoin, you might try the following...

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September 17, 2019, 04:09:49 AM
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To op thank you for the thread. I ended my signature participation years ago.

I did do a free promo for simplemining and for Avalon a841 but ended that a while ago.

My signature now simply states what I think about all cryptocoins.

As for having to post well not much of a problem I averaged 375 posts a month since 2012 which is more then 30000 posts since I started.

I think 🤔 I was paid for 2014 to 2016 Maybe 3 years

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In my opinion, it is another higher matured hierarchy in the forum:
- Newbies: unknowledgeable in rules, and basics; mostly make funny posts.
- From Member to Full Member ranks: read and learn enough rules, guides, etc. and make better posts. Newbies look at them, how they can know very more details about the forum rules, and say: "I admire them so much and try to reach their levels some day."
- Senior Member rank: dig deeply in the forum rules, understand and interpret rules better and more exactly as well as usually make above-average quality posts. Additionally, more regularly help others. Lower ranked users say: "Wow, I admire those Senior members, who are knowledgeable, kindful, and very actively help others. I want to be like them some day."
- Hero Member and Legendary ranks: become the top, and being valuable assest with good positively net effects for the forum; making high quality posts become their habits, they love high quality posts. Low ranked users says: "Wow, how they can manage their time to make such high quality posts on daily basis, and I want to be like them some day (good asset, well reputation, and chances to earn good extra income)".
  • My story: I did struggled with a single merit to become a Hero Member, but then I lifted up my pressure after hitting that rank. Two months later, my total earned merits surpass my activity point. It makes sense as a very classic example of good posting habit. At that point, poster don't care that they will get merits from their posts or not, and when they come. Because they do know merits will find their good posts.
- Finally, the top is what OP just did recent days. There are some others don't wear any signature, they have not yet written about their stories, but yeah I partially can understand why they do that. Maybe some day in next few years, I will have the same approach as of OP.

Anyway, congratulate for your decision and your freedom in posting.

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