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September 26, 2019, 04:05:19 PM
Last edit: September 28, 2019, 01:54:37 PM by Kalemder
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 #1

This project stole the labor of people. Did not pay people who participated in signature campaigns. There are many victims in the forum.
The project managers subsequently introduced many requirements. Also people who have made KYC were not paid.

I call the managers from here. Make the payments you promised at the beginning:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3448783

Or you are will be referred to as scam.
More than 1 year passed.

There are many victims in the local section.
Here are the titles of the victims: (See recent pages)

(Turkish) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5067940.80
(Turkish) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4420725.0
(Indonesian) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4323682.3700
(Dutch) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3754544.280


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We must request removal from the list from CMC and stock exchange sites.
1- I sent a request to CMC.

At the bottom of the site is the "Request Form".
in the next step I chose "I want to report a bug."
"Screenshot URL": I gave a link to this topic
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187809.0

"Please describe in as much detail as possible on what isn't working.":
Jinbi Token (JNB): Scam project. He cheated on people. Please remove it from your site. Do not support scam projects.

Please make this request.

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September 27, 2019, 12:49:02 AM
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This is very unfortunate, this is why so many bounty hunters are leaving the bounty campaign, they are not distributing the tokens after months of efforts, checking the thread people have gone KYC here, and there's no continuation of the project because people are asking and no one among the team is answering.

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September 27, 2019, 07:32:40 AM
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We must request removal from the list from CMC and stock exchange sites.

 
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September 27, 2019, 10:43:29 AM
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We must request removal from the list from CMC and stock exchange sites.
I support this, how can tokens that don't pay for hunter's work get into CMC (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/jinbi-token/)  
they must be ashamed...   this thread must remain here, until they really pay the hunter's hard work.

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September 27, 2019, 10:49:56 AM
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We must request removal from the list from CMC and stock exchange sites.

Yes, I support this idea.
What do we have to do for that?

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September 27, 2019, 12:36:23 PM
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We must request removal from the list from CMC and stock exchange sites.
totally agreed.
for cryptocoin usage, markets listing/advicing website blogs have to listen community sounds, complaints. and i think bitcointalk is the post popular negotiation platform.

 
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September 28, 2019, 12:39:21 AM
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 #7

I just sent a request to Coinmarketcap to remove this scam token from their list.
If anyone knows official representatives of CMC and / or Jinbi outside of this forum, please feel free to reach out to me.

The phony Jinbi team gave multiple promises & deadlines to pay bounty hunters and failed all of them.

Jinbi Token should be a veteran member in all the lists for scammy ICO's, just a small sample of their shameless "official" lies evidenced below:






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September 28, 2019, 01:15:35 AM
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This project stole the labor of people. Did not pay people who participated in signature campaigns. There are many victims in the forum.
So true.  Cheesy
I participated in one of their social media campaigns (reddit) when I though their shitcoin could be a success. I was wrong as it seems.  Tongue

After the campaign was finished and they announced suddenly that KYC was required I stepped back and took the loss because it wasn't much what I had to receive and forgot about their shitcoin. I can remember they tried to continue their sale even after bounty was over so it's very sad to see how these idiots have turned out to be scammers.


The project managers subsequently introduced many requirements. Also people who have made KYC were not paid.
Requesting KYC after the work is already done while it wasn't a requirement when participants joined, is a criminal scam procedure. Projects are doing this regularly that they can save expenses, hoping that many users will miss it.
Because of that I've stopped to do almost anything for altcoin bounties because most shitcoin devs are trying to use people to do the dirty job for them. It's very sad, especially for legit projects which get rarely any investors anymore.  Sad


I call the managers from here. Make the payments you promised at the beginning:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3448783

Or you are will be referred to as scam.
More than 1 year passed.

There are many victims in the local section.
Here are the titles of the victims: (See recent pages)

(Turkish) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5067940.80
(Turkish) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4420725.0
(Indonesian) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4323682.3700
(Dutch) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3754544.280
I doubt that Sylon can do anything here, the team of the shitcoin is responsible to send the payment.

Aside from that I can't remember any campaign in 2018 managed by Sylon not turning out as a scam.  Cheesy

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September 28, 2019, 07:09:46 AM
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This is what I hate about ICO bounty hunting, some of them tried to get away deceiving bounty hunters, I've been there so many times, some of their methods are, not giving our shares, cutting our shares to 50 to 80% and locking our shares for months.

It's right that they reported this scam project in Coinmarketcap to delist them, it has no right to be in the market if they can do this to their bounty hunters who helped them accomplished, their goal, they will also do the exact thing to their investors.

 
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September 28, 2019, 08:21:54 AM
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This is what I hate about ICO bounty hunting, some of them tried to get away deceiving bounty hunters, I've been there so many times, some of their methods are, not giving our shares, cutting our shares to 50 to 80% and locking our shares for months.

It's right that they reported this scam project in Coinmarketcap to delist them, it has no right to be in the market if they can do this to their bounty hunters who helped them accomplished, their goal, they will also do the exact thing to their investors.
Is this really possible to report a project and remove them from coinmarketcap? Its new for me and how actually this things works , i mean how can you report a project from coinmarketcap? Do you need evidence or just need  more people to report a scam  project and then remove.

 
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September 28, 2019, 09:21:42 AM
 #11

I sent a request to CMC.

At the bottom of the site is the "Request Form".
in the next step I chose "I want to report a bug."
"Screenshot URL": I gave a link to this topic
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187809.0

"Please describe in as much detail as possible on what isn't working.":
Jinbi Token (JNB): Scam project. He cheated on people. Please remove it from your site. Do not support scam projects.

Please make this request.

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September 28, 2019, 10:45:35 AM
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I sent a request to CMC

finally we have a topic to get the truth out of Jinbi, good job!

I passed through the KYC, and got verified, but no one received the earned rewards
There was the Bounty Buy Back program, if you remember, saying that we can be payed up to 50% in ETH
So even if this shit token doesn't have any market value, we could be payed in ETH for our work

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September 28, 2019, 02:08:59 PM
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Thank you for your support.
Please continue sending CMC requests.
CMC cannot reject intensive requests.

Jinbi managers need to consider us.
What else can we do?

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September 28, 2019, 02:39:02 PM
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I sent a request to CMC.

At the bottom of the site is the "Request Form".
in the next step I chose "I want to report a bug."
"Screenshot URL": I gave a link to this topic
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187809.0

"Please describe in as much detail as possible on what isn't working.":
Jinbi Token (JNB): Scam project. He cheated on people. Please remove it from your site. Do not support scam projects.

Please make this request.
this is the answer i need . Good job mate i know now what should i do its been a long time since this campaign finish and not even penny has been paid for participants effort , i request all other jinbi particpants do the same thing it will help us all to get paid or atleast remover them from the coinmarketcap list.

 
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I do not understand the ceo jinbi? they prefer to consider a scam rather than pay for hunters who have worked hard for this.
i hope jinbi admin will pay for my work.
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I do not understand the ceo jinbi? they prefer to consider a scam rather than pay for hunters who have worked hard for this.
i hope jinbi admin will pay for my work.

Maybe they are not fully aware what level of damage this type of step can do to the image and reputation of their project, and lets assume cmc decided to honor this request base on the evidence presented to them, then it will be hard on their project when cmc delist them, they have played with hunters emotion far too long and it's about time something is done, good job @op.

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I fully support this topic regarding the scam of Jinbi project. They stopped all announcements about bounties about 6 months ago. We could not hear from them since then. We all know that they will not pay to us. Before, I revealed the guy who told us that bounties will be paid 6 months ago in Telegram. Now he is a moderator of another project as if nothing happened. It is like a joke.

 
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It's obviously a scam project. They are not answering messages from people and they created an ONLY ANNOUNCEMENT group in telegram. Sucks. They are clearly doesn't want us to be paid for our services. I'll send a form in CMC for this. It's been a year for this. This coin has a good price in CMC though. Yet, it is a scam. It should be reported.

 
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I just sent a request to Coinmarketcap to remove this scam token from their list.
If anyone knows official representatives of CMC and / or Jinbi outside of this forum, please feel free to reach out to me.

The phony Jinbi team gave multiple promises & deadlines to pay bounty hunters and failed all of them.

Jinbi Token should be a veteran member in all the lists for scammy ICO's, just a small sample of their shameless "official" lies evidenced below:









these bastards got my documents and didn’t pay anything, it’s a pity that there are more and more such scammers and we can’t help it at least I don’t know how to influence them, who knows, write, I need to act
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I fully support this topic regarding the scam of Jinbi project. They stopped all announcements about bounties about 6 months ago. We could not hear from them since then. We all know that they will not pay to us. Before, I revealed the guy who told us that bounties will be paid 6 months ago in Telegram. Now he is a moderator of another project as if nothing happened. It is like a joke.
I guess the one you are telling is just a community manager working for the project. we should not blame them he is just doing his job and say to other partcipants what owner told to him to say to us,unless he is also part of the team that was a different story.

 
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I fully support this topic regarding the scam of Jinbi project. They stopped all announcements about bounties about 6 months ago. We could not hear from them since then. We all know that they will not pay to us. Before, I revealed the guy who told us that bounties will be paid 6 months ago in Telegram. Now he is a moderator of another project as if nothing happened. It is like a joke.
I guess the one you are telling is just a community manager working for the project. we should not blame them he is just doing his job and say to other partcipants what owner told to him to say to us,unless he is also part of the team that was a different story.

absolutely right the bounty managers are not responsible for the distribution of generosity

there are such cases when the manager received coins for distribution and simply disappeared without paying a reward, can we be sure that he is not one of them?
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I am with you bro, I agree to request delisting jinbi from Coinmarketcap. Sylon just on side of this project, he isn't trying to help us to get payment. But, he never comeback to the ANN thread or Bounty thread to answer all questions of bounty participant. And then, if they are really getting more than 18 million, why their volumes no more than $100K but just only between $200 - $3000, this is a small proof if they are just a liar. Btw, I already send a request to delisting jinbi. i hope this token delisted soon.

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September 30, 2019, 03:36:51 AM
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I just sent a request to Coinmarketcap to remove this scam token from their list.
If anyone knows official representatives of CMC and / or Jinbi outside of this forum, please feel free to reach out to me.

The phony Jinbi team gave multiple promises & deadlines to pay bounty hunters and failed all of them.

Jinbi Token should be a veteran member in all the lists for scammy ICO's, just a small sample of their shameless "official" lies evidenced below:


these bastards got my documents and didn’t pay anything, it’s a pity that there are more and more such scammers and we can’t help it at least I don’t know how to influence them, who knows, write, I need to act

When they know they have no desire to pay hunters their reward why requesting for their personal information as well? That's a bit too much, this type of suspicious behavior makes people to hesitate when it comes to providing personal information,
Let's hope this scam accusation move will yield a positive result,
I would suggest all hunters make a tweet regarding this issue and link of this thread on cmc Twitter handle,
am sure this will draw the cmc attention to this case much faster, they have to give hunters what is due to them otherwise face the consequence.

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I am using a form as the OP mentioned, but i choose another way to report. i don't choose report bug, but i prefer to chose other option. then you can fill form, summary of what you want to say. this is not guarantee if our reported will success, but at least we can try.

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September 30, 2019, 03:29:24 PM
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Jinbi Token AG is registered in Zug.

it is also on the blacklist of the FINMA. The FINMA being the swiss equivalent to the SEC.

https://www.finma.ch/fr/finma-public/liste-noire/jinbi-token-ag/

I think we can safely assume that the authorities know about this already. The only way to get something out of this is a legal action. Anything else is a waste of time at this point.

I might try to contact the FINMA this week and see what they say about this.



Edit: The blacklist is purely regulatory. This doesn't mean the FINMA knows about the wrongdoings of Jinbi AG.

Source: https://www.finma.ch/fr/finma-public/liste-noire/

In the case of Jinbi the offense is they didn't register to the "trade register". The offense is dated back in May 2018

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Jinbi Token AG is registered in Zug.

it is also on the blacklist of the FINMA. The FINMA being the swiss equivalent to the SEC.

https://www.finma.ch/fr/finma-public/liste-noire/jinbi-token-ag/

I think we can safely assume that the authorities know about this already. The only way to get something out of this is a legal action. Anything else is a waste of time at this point.

I might try to contact the FINMA this week and see what they say about this.



Edit: The blacklist is purely regulatory. This doesn't mean the FINMA knows about the wrongdoings of Jinbi AG.

Source: https://www.finma.ch/fr/finma-public/liste-noire/

In the case of Jinbi the offense is they didn't register to the "trade register". The offense is dated back in May 2018

I was asking before, on the Jinbi thread, for some legal action that we can do, maybe all together, but I donno where to start
Do you have experience in such cases before?

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September 30, 2019, 09:27:59 PM
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I was asking before, on the Jinbi thread, for some legal action that we can do, maybe all together, but I donno where to start
Do you have experience in such cases before?

Experience, no.

But first thing to do would be to gather any evidence.
Be it the bounty "contract", or even the identities of the team, who is actually working at that adress in London, or even who is picking up that phone line.

Next step would be to go to the police with these. Preferably someone in Switzerland or UK since this is where they are based and this would speed things up.

If it's too much for the police the next step would be to hire an attorney/legal council to take action.

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I was asking before, on the Jinbi thread, for some legal action that we can do, maybe all together, but I donno where to start
Do you have experience in such cases before?

Experience, no.

But first thing to do would be to gather any evidence.
Be it the bounty "contract", or even the identities of the team, who is actually working at that adress in London, or even who is picking up that phone line.

Next step would be to go to the police with these. Preferably someone in Switzerland or UK since this is where they are based and this would speed things up.

If it's too much for the police the next step would be to hire an attorney/legal council to take action.

Unfortunately, there is nothing they can really do to get their promised money.
Of course, could make the police act on this and maybe you will even find a prosecutor to open a case against them but the money....Nope!

If the bounty hunters even manage to get a civil case against this for the work they have done and did not get aid even a 10$/h lawyer will manage to get these claims dismissed, post in tweeter or reddit? That would be a breach of terms and conditions of those websites,
 
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coordinating with or compensating others to engage in artificial engagement or amplification, even if the people involved use only one account.

Second, there is a problem with your "contract" , again an "accepted" or a post on a spreadsheet will be ripped apart in court if you try to present it as a work contract or agreement for payment.
And even if by a miracle you win and the court will decide for compensations you either end with worthless tokens or you will have to get the money from a bankrupt company with zero capital. Both cases will award you zero cents.

That's the risk in this bounty hunting, you end with a stash full of hot air and no coins.
 

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I hate when projects do this. No news, nothing. We have been waiting for months and we could not learn anything from team, those are suck scammers and they will continue being a scammer, noone can stop them. Only thing we can do is be aware of these characterless people.I hope that more topics will open up in the forum and we can destroy this jinbi team together.
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I was asking before, on the Jinbi thread, for some legal action that we can do, maybe all together, but I donno where to start
Do you have experience in such cases before?

Experience, no.

But first thing to do would be to gather any evidence.
Be it the bounty "contract", or even the identities of the team, who is actually working at that adress in London, or even who is picking up that phone line.

Next step would be to go to the police with these. Preferably someone in Switzerland or UK since this is where they are based and this would speed things up.

If it's too much for the police the next step would be to hire an attorney/legal council to take action.

Unfortunately, there is nothing they can really do to get their promised money.
Of course, could make the police act on this and maybe you will even find a prosecutor to open a case against them but the money....Nope!

If the bounty hunters even manage to get a civil case against this for the work they have done and did not get aid even a 10$/h lawyer will manage to get these claims dismissed, post in tweeter or reddit? That would be a breach of terms and conditions of those websites,
 
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coordinating with or compensating others to engage in artificial engagement or amplification, even if the people involved use only one account.

Second, there is a problem with your "contract" , again an "accepted" or a post on a spreadsheet will be ripped apart in court if you try to present it as a work contract or agreement for payment.
And even if by a miracle you win and the court will decide for compensations you either end with worthless tokens or you will have to get the money from a bankrupt company with zero capital. Both cases will award you zero cents.

That's the risk in this bounty hunting, you end with a stash full of hot air and no coins.
 


Well, it's always possible to think at a class action, which will require hiring a Swiss layer, possibly with some experience in crypto - I guess there should be such lawyers in Zug. At some point it's not just a matter of money, but a matter of principle. Agreements are agreements, there is enough evidence online about the agreenment which these people have not respected so far. A crypto skilled layer should be able to make a point on such an issue.
The silence of Sylon on this issue is also unacceptable. People joined the campaign also because his name was a garancy. If he wishes to keep his reputation in this community he has to come back to this problem and deal with it.

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I too worked as a Hindi translator and since Sylon was managing the project, I did not doubt it but looks like he himself couldn't help with the payment as it was supposed to be released by the team. I don't understand why the team even released messages via telegram that they would pay us and their token was already listed on exchanges but they still preferred not to pay us after taking our KYC details. Foolishly, the team still posts updates via their channel but everyone has understood their scam.

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