And the yobit.net campaign is back

[Findingnemo]

I don't know what Theymos thinks about paid advertisements for other forums here at Bitcointalk?

Theymos not against promoting another crypto forum at bitcointalk because in the past I seen signature campaign for ICOforum for weeks but it ended up in the way after the manager stole all the bounty funds.

So promoting crypto talk forum is not a problem until the campaign participants are not spamming here.

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[cabalism13]

This new campaign has the sole purpose to advertise the forum and lure people to it in my opinion...

The most savage thing here is they'll lure Bitcointalk Users then eventually those users will just advertise and talk about Bitcointalk while being on CryptoTalk. 😂
Ending: Users will be back at Bitcointalk. LOL.

[Coyster]

So promoting crypto talk forum is not a problem until the campaign participants are not spamming here.

I'll take your stand on this, and I can understand why theymos wouldn't bother troubling his head over this sort of shitty forum advertising itself on bitcointalk.
It definitely is not nor will it be in any competition with bitcointalk, it'll probably just die off after some time, and to promote freedom to advertise in this forum as long as rules are upheld.

I doubt theymos would stop their ad here, only if their promoters post continuous spam, then we're directly affected and strick action would be served.

[YoBit]

Thank you for your criticism, but what can we do to improve the situation?

- reduce the number of daily messages?
- or we can ask yahoo62278 (if he approve it) or somebody else to moderate our sig campaign and create new topic

[LoyceMobile]

Thank you for your criticism, but what can we do to improve the situation?

- reduce the number of daily messages?
- or we can ask yahoo62278 (if he approve it) or somebody else to moderate our sig campaign and create new topic

If you want a simple automated system, at least set an earned merit requirement for participants. I can provide you with a complete list.

If you want a decent campaign that doesn't get banned again, hire a good manager. It was discussed during the previous campaign, and despite your bad image, reducing the spam has priority.

[Coyster]

- reduce the number of daily messages?

The number of daily messages is not the problem, it could be five or even ten, yet the participants in the campaign could still make five shitposts. As long as the 20 required posts isn't the minimum for payout per day, then any one who feels it's within his capabilities to make the 20 posts without spamming nor post bursting can go ahead and do so, mind you you'll need a manager that'll be strict to adhere to the rules, "no spamming or burst posting"

- or we can ask yahoo62278 (if he approve it) or somebody else to moderate our sig campaign and create new topic

The participants that make up the campaign are the representatives that the forum sees, you'll need a manager that'll select the very good posters, that way everywhere the signature is seen, it'll be complemented with a sensible and quality post above it.
Yahoo, Hamphuz, Dark star and some other top managers do and can do that effectively, you'll need to contact them if you wish, to know if they'll be interested, considering the furore this campaign has caused.

[rosezionjohn]

Pretty dumb for Yobit to use their name to promote another forum and try compete with bitcointalk. They could simply set up a fresh account to manage the campaign. Or are they doing this to prove something to the bitcointalk community since they've lost their reputation here from the many scam accusations or issues pumps and dumps?

It definitely is not nor will it be in any competition with bitcointalk, it'll probably just die off after some time,

The problem with this new forums is that they end up with mostly bounty hunters.
It's stated in the Cryptoforum terms that they'll only pay for quality posts and I will not be surprised if hunters won't get paid then leave.

[YoBit]

The participants that make up the campaign are the representatives that the forum sees, you'll need a manager that'll select the very good posters, that way everywhere the signature is seen, it'll be complemented with a sensible and quality post above it.
Yahoo, Hamphuz, Dark star and some other top managers do and can do that effectively, you'll need to contact them if you wish, to know if they'll be interested, considering the furore this campaign has caused.

Thanks, we'll ask these managers and wait for their answers

[tranthidung]

Thank you for your criticism, but what can we do to improve the situation?

- reduce the number of daily messages?
- or we can ask yahoo62278 (if he approve it) or somebody else to moderate our sig campaign and create new topic

Now, it is better to see you stepped in, and claimed that Yobit truly run their campaign in the forum.
Something you have to keep in mind.
- Campaign, when runs, has to officially show proof that it comes from real team, this case, Yobit team (for Yobit, it makes sense as consequence of your previous campaigns).
- You can hire a manager to do this, such as Hhampuz, yahoo62278, or other famous and professional managers.
- Max post cap per day should be reduced. In my opinion, the max daily post cap should be somewhere in between 10. There are some good posters can make more than 10 per day, but they are very scarce, so 10 is acceptable daily postcap.
- Required minimum amount of earned merits (last 30 days, 60, or 120 days, it depends) will help to get good participants.
- Bonus payments for best participants each week might be considered, if Yobit team have funds for it. I suggest the top 5 merit earners each week will get bonus payments. Top 5 winners will get equal bonus payments from bonus pool or different depends on their ranks. It's your choice.
- Personal text, when requires, should only used for Yobit, not CryptoTalk.org.
If Yobit team stays behind CryptoTalk.org forum, the team might consider to run the second campaign separately from Yobit's campaign, for CryptoTalk (with signature, and personal text).

Because of previous vague rounds of Yobit campaign, and corresponding issues, for the next round, if you hire a manager, you can leave a reply below campaign's OP that Yobit is behind it to clear all drama.

Professional managers will do reject low quality posts, after screening and choosing best ones among participants. Honestly, such changes only bring better results for Yobit campaign.

[LoyceV]

Hmm.. you might be right.. but that's quite an unfair duel. LoyceV is offline for almost 2 hours now.
I guess he is charging his batteries.

I'd love to see a 1v1 scraping duel between those two tho 

Suchmoon can have this one
I don't have tools ready to check signatures, and unless Yobit is going to pay me insane amounts of money, I'm not going to do this.

[tranthidung]

Hmm.. you might be right.. but that's quite an unfair duel. LoyceV is offline for almost 2 hours now.
I guess he is charging his batteries.

I'd love to see a 1v1 scraping duel between those two tho  

Suchmoon can have this one
I don't have tools ready to check signatures, and unless Yobit is going to pay me insane amounts of money, I'm not going to do this.

Will this available one work for you?  

Just automate it:

Code:

for post in newPostsList:
    if isWearingYobitSig():
        post.getuser().report("spam")

Guaranteed accuracy: 99+%

And if Yobit changes its personal text to Yobit, whatever, you can use BPIP site to check (in each user profile). I know there are technical steps to do this, that I am incapable of.

[stadus]

Thanks, we'll ask these managers and wait for their answers

You can't solve all problems in an instant, but seeing you seeking for the members advise, I can say that's a good move.
All the 3 campaign managers are good managers, I have work in all 3 of them and I can say they are very professional in handing their campaigns.

Good luck, hopefully they'll agree so it will help minimize the spam problem.

[tranthidung]

You can't solve all problems in an instant, but seeing you seeking for the members advise, I can say that's a good move.
All the 3 campaign managers are good managers, I have work in all 3 of them and I can say they are very professional in handing their campaigns.

Good luck, hopefully they'll agree so it will help minimize the spam problem.

There is one manager above has not yet mentioned, LoyceV. 
Good managers will not allow their participants spam and get payments. Spam posts or low quality ones will be rejected as eligible posts for payments. So, good managers will do eradicate spam posts from their participants.

[Findingnemo]

You can't solve all problems in an instant, but seeing you seeking for the members advise, I can say that's a good move.
All the 3 campaign managers are good managers, I have work in all 3 of them and I can say they are very professional in handing their campaigns.

Good luck, hopefully they'll agree so it will help minimize the spam problem.

There is one manager above has not yet mentioned, LoyceV. 
Good managers will not allow their participants spam and get payments. Spam posts or low quality ones will be rejected as eligible posts for payments. So, good managers will do eradicate spam posts from their participants.

But good managers may not accept their offer to manage their campaign since they have lot of bad reputation in the past and still people coming and crying that they got scammed which will affect the manager's reputation.

[aioc]

Thank you for your criticism, but what can we do to improve the situation?

- reduce the number of daily messages?
- or we can ask yahoo62278 (if he approve it) or somebody else to moderate our sig campaign and create new topic

I am ok with Yahoo and Hhampuz handling the campaign but I'm also ok with the internal transfer to wallet in our Yobit account so we can trade our rewards, that's what I've been doing when I was still active participating in their campaign but whatever the decision of the management I'm ok with it.

[efialtis]

There we go - let the spamfest begin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187976.msg52569812#msg52569812

[vycl87]

There we go - let the spamfest begin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187976.msg52569812#msg52569812

I just wrote the same thing in another post with yobit content.

Bump

Yobit is back to start witch hunt Joke aside, I think as long as it does not create spam, everyone should be able to carry the signature. But I think the dynamics of the forum will still not allow it.

Let people wear their signature, and the forum is going to be watching them. If someone creates spam anyway, then admins already will do whatever we need. I am sure.

[elda34b]

- or we can ask yahoo62278 (if he approve it) or somebody else to moderate our sig campaign and create new topic

Do this. Hhampuz, yahoo, Darkstar, or anyone else. The problem with your campaign is the spam, and lowering the post won't change it. You need a manager if you're too lazy to check the quality of your participants.

[Botnake]

I don't know what Theymos thinks about paid advertisements for other forums here at Bitcointalk?

Theymos not against promoting another crypto forum at bitcointalk because in the past I seen signature campaign for ICOforum for weeks but it ended up in the way after the manager stole all the bounty funds.

So promoting crypto talk forum is not a problem until the campaign participants are not spamming here.

The only concern of the forum is the spamming problem, that is why yobit was ban in the past due to random members signing up and then just spam the forum but with active members willing to report spam posts, I think it will minimize the spam but my only concern is the max post per day that could encourage spam.

So promoting crypto talk forum is not a problem until the campaign participants are not spamming here.

Good to know but I just wonder why they pay that much for bitcointalk members to promote the site while they are paying a small amount on their own forum. Pardon my ignorance.

[Stedsm]

The participants that make up the campaign are the representatives that the forum sees, you'll need a manager that'll select the very good posters, that way everywhere the signature is seen, it'll be complemented with a sensible and quality post above it.
Yahoo, Hamphuz, Dark star and some other top managers do and can do that effectively, you'll need to contact them if you wish, to know if they'll be interested, considering the furore this campaign has caused.

Thanks, we'll ask these managers and wait for their answers

This shows that since the old campaign ban, you still didn't learn quite a lot while showing up with the same type of campaign once again. I've got a few things to ask:

- You've been on this forum for so long (considering that your campaign had been running here for years), weren't you aware of the spam your campaign did spread?

- Why didn't you learn about so many highly reputed campaign managers here even before your campaign began for the first time? And even if not, why not this time? The forum needs not to be blamed but you for being lazy by not doing research you needed to make your campaign a successful experience for both you and the participants.

- Due to you not being active, do you even know that Yobit's campaign has got enough negative responses and not just limited to that, but even red tags for those who decide to participate in your campaign?