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April 29, 2020, 02:41:01 AM
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Apologies Mike....

No problem.

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April 29, 2020, 03:40:16 PM
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I totally agree with this!

Also, when talking about luck... Imagine this (my story):

Getting S17 Pro (first batch) and all 3 hashboard end up failing after 2-3 months. Not too bad, I can still RMA it as it is in warranty, won't cost me a lot (excluding time and shipping costs). I get new S17 Pro (after some problems with my government) and it ends up (after 1-2 months) with 2 dead hashboards and one popping up from time to time. Now I am a bit angry... It's same problem all over again, but now I am ready! I can avoid problems with my government and I hope price of fixing my gear will not be too high...

Lucky me it cost me ~$150 in shipping and $55 for repair cost. BUT, due to stupidity of my government and problems with pandemic, I had to pay VAT (20%) for the third time FOR SAME MACHINE, and lost about 5 months of mining only in waiting for shipment and government to decide wtf they want.

And that is the first unit ever I had problems with. I ordered:
- 20-30 S9s and all of them are still working (not for me however)
- 1 S15 still working (not for me)
- 2 T17+ still working (not for me)
- 5 T17e still working (not for me)
- 5 S17 Pro (1 had the problem I explained above and other 4 are working, but not for me)
- S17+ and S17e (still working and in my possession)
- 6 Z11 (still working but only 1 is in my possession).

Also, of all the PSUs I ordered, none had failed so far (ordered between 30-50 APW3+ and APW7)

So, that is quite a low failure rate for me, but it cost me a lot anyway.

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April 29, 2020, 08:32:33 PM
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News about high failure rates doesn't surprise me much. I've been doing some learning on S17/T17 hardware a bit lately.

They have substantially improved airflow and heatsinking in ways which should have been obvious to them in 2015. However, depending on the model of miner, they're pulling anywhere from 14 to 21 watts PER ASIC, from the same 8x8mm package size and footprint they've been using since the S9. The package is improved with a huge exposed die for better top-cooling junction/sink connection but that's still roughly double the power per chip compared to previous miners.

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April 30, 2020, 01:03:57 AM
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T17+ is now 943 at bitmain


https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020200430083357368yKGPt36e0693

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April 30, 2020, 01:29:28 AM
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ouch so they jacked the price up again.

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April 30, 2020, 03:44:21 AM
Last edit: May 01, 2020, 12:33:34 AM by frodocooper
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Coins jumped over $9000.00.

And they are in stock so pay 💰 760 to 943.

would not be a terrible jump but with the 1/2 ing in 2 weeks it is a terrible jump.

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April 30, 2020, 03:46:57 AM
Last edit: May 01, 2020, 12:33:57 AM by frodocooper
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Was about to write the same comment...

I would expect the price of S17+ to jump soon as well. However, they will probably lower the price of S19/Pro and move a date further away. And S9s will probably have a stable price between 55-100$.

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April 30, 2020, 04:05:45 AM
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except by going over 800 - even the jump in btc price doesnt compensate for the tariff expense.

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April 30, 2020, 04:20:46 AM
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Yeah but more then USA buys it.   coins were 7k now 9k.  price was 760 now 943

9000/7000 = 1.2857.  943/760 = 1.24.

so that's is close to a push. except for USA. as 760 = 0 tax. 943 = 264 tax

so the price jump is 760 to 1207.  and with 1/2 ing in 2 weeks

it will take 2x time to earn the coins.

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April 30, 2020, 04:47:02 AM
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and that is what is keeping me from ordering even though I want new gear Sad

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April 30, 2020, 10:59:28 AM
Last edit: April 30, 2020, 03:47:30 PM by philipma1957
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greed is a bitch.

out wait them  bro.

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April 30, 2020, 06:17:24 PM
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so bitcoin hits 9400 or roughly around there - and bitmain raises the price, bitcoin has now dropped to under 8500 about 10% drop - think bitmain will lower prices by 10%?

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April 30, 2020, 06:23:59 PM
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that is why greed is a bitch Grin

Hope you are waiting I am  Grin

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April 30, 2020, 06:25:37 PM
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I am lol i am not worried so much about their price to btc ratio just that they bring the price back to under de minimus would be nice.

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April 30, 2020, 06:28:30 PM
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I would buy today at 798 or less.

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April 30, 2020, 06:45:36 PM
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on a side note, my last order just made it to Japan about an hour ago.


edit: just got a call from fedex my shipment was in Memphis TN but was held up because customs needed my TIN/EIN --- I gave that to them when they called and asked while it was still in China... SMH

delivery is now scheduled for Monday May 4th.

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The miner arrived today. It was in Cincinnati yesterday, and DHL sent me a text with a link to pay a $49.23 import fee.  (HuhHuh?). I paid that online yesterday. Doorbell rings today and DHL driver says they're running ahead of schedule.   Will get it hooked up tonight.


Edit: 5/2.   Got it hooked up last night.  Up and running just dandy.

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May 02, 2020, 10:58:26 AM
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The interesting/weird thing with the import charges, which I paid online as soon as I had the message, was that UPS decided to hand-deliver it without even placing it in an envelope ......  Huh Huh Huh

But, finally had the delivery today. UPS apologised as it was not up to them regarding the delay but nothing about the invoice. That was nice though.

So far, major delays were just in China, everything else was a smooth ride with hold-ups not longer than 24 hours in any of the 2 places it went through ( Incheon, Korea; and Koeln, Germany)

The miner box looks ok, guess will leave it in the garage for 3 days, just to be extra sure.

Edit:

Does anyone know the CFM or any measure of airflow required by the S17+? Thank you.
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Does anyone know the CFM or any measure of airflow required by the S17+? Thank you.

IIRC, each fan is around 250cfm. Intake and exhaust run as a team in parallel. So an upper set and a lower set.... the whole unit should be moving +/- 500 cfm.

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May 02, 2020, 04:42:14 PM
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mine is now sitting in Tampa - about 30 miles away. Slated for Monday delivery.

update: mine arrived today at 11 am - no additional amount due from fedex - so they must not have included shipping when considering the tariff

2nd update: its averaging 60 th/s not bad since it was supposed to be 58 th/s

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