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October 11, 2019, 09:57:20 AM
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I don't really understand the extent of the hype around this project.

I think that it is obviously justified for there to be some interest due to the fact that Telegram is such a big company and very influential in the cryptosphere, but nothing suggests to me that the ICO that they are proposing has anything special attached to it that would inspire particular investor confidence.

Seems like people are just rushing to invest just because of the company name without looking at the long term potential of the token. Sort of like BitTorrent, if you ask me.
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October 11, 2019, 10:40:58 AM
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Telegram happens to be the social media app I use the most than any other I have lately, so it would be nice to own some GRAM tokens but for it's current price seem a bit pricey,  maybe price will go low once it goes live, after all this is the normal trends of tokens this days, once listed on exchange price normally dump, so I will wait a bit and see how things turn out, no need to rush.

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October 11, 2019, 02:05:50 PM
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Telegram happens to be the social media app I use the most than any other I have lately, so it would be nice to own some GRAM tokens but for it's current price seem a bit pricey,  maybe price will go low once it goes live, after all this is the normal trends of tokens this days, once listed on exchange price normally dump, so I will wait a bit and see how things turn out, no need to rush.
There are many supporters of this gram token the price expected to start at 3$. since there are also big investors participate in this ICO i think the price will not go lower and expected to be much more expensive  becuase of hype happening now.

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October 11, 2019, 05:24:51 PM
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Telegram happens to be the social media app I use the most than any other I have lately, so it would be nice to own some GRAM tokens but for it's current price seem a bit pricey,  maybe price will go low once it goes live, after all this is the normal trends of tokens this days, once listed on exchange price normally dump, so I will wait a bit and see how things turn out, no need to rush.

Most if not all in crypto are using telegram since most of the teams developing a project are there as part of their channel to announce what i going on. I don't however see it would go up the moment its in the market unless the price starts very low like $0.01. When they say $3 and lets say I got about a million of the token, I might just login submit all the documents I got for KYC just to dump. There would be 1 in a million of the investors who wouldn't think this way.

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October 11, 2019, 06:33:26 PM
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After lauching it takes time before for a project makes a progress mate . So its very difficult to predict if it has a chance to sky rocket after that.  By the wa if i were you search for some sort of finished projects or go to CMC and look for top altcoins if you want to accumulate few dollars . because to be honest that coin is uncertain because of being not popular and seems new in my view.  I suggest think carefully before doing anything mate to avoid regrets at the end .  Regards
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October 11, 2019, 06:54:26 PM
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If the altcoin bear market doesn't turn around by the time GRAM token become live, rest assured the price will dump badly. No reversal signal on altcoin prices means almost all speculators, traders and investors are still staying away from buying any altcoin or token.

But if altcoin season begins, expect a rocketship.


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October 12, 2019, 12:11:18 AM
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Telegram is one of the best chat platform where most crypto enthusiast, projects, ICOs gather together to communicate whmith each other. Well, it is a huge company who had sold a huge amount of money in their crowdfunding and I guess it would be helpful for them to develop their platform even better. So, I guess this will be huge for both investors and tmTelegram it self. It all depends on how well the team and the investors carry the price of the token once it is unlocked and ready to be traded.

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October 12, 2019, 02:10:54 AM
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For people from US that have already bought or reserved gram tokens in some crypto platform or exchange site may have to refund their money

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2019-212#.XaD52qG70Iw.twitter

SEC is starting to catch TON.

Finally, US regulator has already taken action against TON. it's really interesting to see what will be happening in the future, another libra? maybe

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October 12, 2019, 05:05:56 AM
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Telegram is one of the best chat platform where most crypto enthusiast, projects, ICOs gather together to communicate whmith each other. Well, it is a huge company who had sold a huge amount of money in their crowdfunding and I guess it would be helpful for them to develop their platform even better. So, I guess this will be huge for both investors and tmTelegram it self. It all depends on how well the team and the investors carry the price of the token once it is unlocked and ready to be traded.
but where will IEO be carried out? I see the first page that IEO will be implemented on EXMarket?
Is it true? even though Telegram is a big and good project



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October 12, 2019, 06:31:21 AM
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I think GRAM will not get high prices. there are so many bad conditions that its price drops compared to the price of IEO or ICO. The bear market is still there and these days bitcoin is heavily traded, which is a sign of the dump in the coming days.
The market is still not growing, GRAM being launched these days will make its value drop like HBAR.

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October 12, 2019, 07:00:02 AM
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If the altcoin bear market doesn't turn around by the time GRAM token become live, rest assured the price will dump badly. No reversal signal on altcoin prices means almost all speculators, traders and investors are still staying away from buying any altcoin or token.

But if altcoin season begins, expect a rocketship.

So, it's the best time for us to buy it right ? , this token has a very high potential to grow since almost every crypto person has telegram somehow that's for chating or hunting airdrops.
This is a worth waiting for project.
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October 12, 2019, 07:29:08 AM
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If the altcoin bear market doesn't turn around by the time GRAM token become live, rest assured the price will dump badly. No reversal signal on altcoin prices means almost all speculators, traders and investors are still staying away from buying any altcoin or token.

But if altcoin season begins, expect a rocketship.

So, it's the best time for us to buy it right ? , this token has a very high potential to grow since almost every crypto person has telegram somehow that's for chating or hunting airdrops.
This is a worth waiting for project.

the what the telegram token ? the introduction price was said to be 3usd to 5usd  . that price was high so its a no for me but i dont know about you if you can afford it then go   .

 since telegram is a popular platform , i think their coin can easily skyrocket if ever they' announce or promote it succesfully  .

let us all hope that this gram ( telegram token )will be a way for the alts to recovery and pump   .
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October 12, 2019, 11:16:34 AM
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the what the telegram token ? the introduction price was said to be 3usd to 5usd  . that price was high so its a no for me but i dont know about you if you can afford it then go   .

 since telegram is a popular platform , i think their coin can easily skyrocket if ever they' announce or promote it succesfully  .

let us all hope that this gram ( telegram token )will be a way for the alts to recovery and pump   .

So, it's the best time for us to buy it right ? , this token has a very high potential to grow since almost every crypto person has telegram somehow that's for chating or hunting airdrops.
This is a worth waiting for project.

Have you guys checked the latest information about Telegram (GRAM token)? there are many media reporting it,
look at what SEC said about this project and their sale:
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“Our emergency action today is intended to prevent Telegram from flooding the U.S. markets with digital tokens that we allege were unlawfully sold,” said Stephanie Avakian, Co-Director of the SEC’s Division of Enforcement, in a statement. “We allege that the defendants have failed to provide investors with information regarding Grams and Telegram’s business operations, financial condition, risk factors, and management that the securities laws require.”
it is very likely for the investors to get refunded because of this, that means it is over for them. There will be no altcoin season because of this or whatever you want to say.
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October 12, 2019, 11:50:47 AM
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the what the telegram token ? the introduction price was said to be 3usd to 5usd  . that price was high so its a no for me but i dont know about you if you can afford it then go   .

 since telegram is a popular platform , i think their coin can easily skyrocket if ever they' announce or promote it succesfully  .

let us all hope that this gram ( telegram token )will be a way for the alts to recovery and pump   .

So, it's the best time for us to buy it right ? , this token has a very high potential to grow since almost every crypto person has telegram somehow that's for chating or hunting airdrops.
This is a worth waiting for project.

Have you guys checked the latest information about Telegram (GRAM token)? there are many media reporting it,
look at what SEC said about this project and their sale:
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“Our emergency action today is intended to prevent Telegram from flooding the U.S. markets with digital tokens that we allege were unlawfully sold,” said Stephanie Avakian, Co-Director of the SEC’s Division of Enforcement, in a statement. “We allege that the defendants have failed to provide investors with information regarding Grams and Telegram’s business operations, financial condition, risk factors, and management that the securities laws require.”
it is very likely for the investors to get refunded because of this, that means it is over for them. There will be no altcoin season because of this or whatever you want to say.


nope. they are refunding US investors but not the ones outside US. SEC didn't make it clear but the crackdown are just those from US, its not the end of the project but will still continue. SEC seem to be getting alarmed at every altcoin projects where there are US investors. its over for the US investors in crypto, but of course they still can find ways. this must be because of so much hype, that is why GRAM is now noticed by the SEC. the law only applies to US citizen.









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nope. they are refunding US investors but not the ones outside US. SEC didn't make it clear but the crackdown are just those from US, its not the end of the project but will still continue. SEC seem to be getting alarmed at every altcoin projects where there are US investors. its over for the US investors in crypto, but of course they still can find ways. this must be because of so much hype, that is why GRAM is now noticed by the SEC. the law only applies to US citizen.

From where did you read about the refund of US investors? from what I see, SEC would likely to permanently stop their project.
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The regulator seeks certain emergency relief, as well as permanent injunctions, disgorgement with prejudgment interest, and civil penalties against the defendants.
I do not think this is as simple as refunding the money to the investors and then making a new sale after this happened.
they are running a business under US jurisdiction, SEC has a right to intervene with their conduct.
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October 12, 2019, 01:06:41 PM
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nope. they are refunding US investors but not the ones outside US. SEC didn't make it clear but the crackdown are just those from US, its not the end of the project but will still continue. SEC seem to be getting alarmed at every altcoin projects where there are US investors. its over for the US investors in crypto, but of course they still can find ways. this must be because of so much hype, that is why GRAM is now noticed by the SEC. the law only applies to US citizen.

From where did you read about the refund of US investors? from what I see, SEC would likely to permanently stop their project.
look at this:
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The regulator seeks certain emergency relief, as well as permanent injunctions, disgorgement with prejudgment interest, and civil penalties against the defendants.
I do not think this is as simple as refunding the money to the investors and then making a new sale after this happened.
they are running a business under US jurisdiction, SEC has a right to intervene with their conduct.
Guys, maybe I'm wrong, but as far as I understand the already existing information, the Securities Commission temporarily suspended the project because it considers the initial sale of tokens illegal.  If Pavel Durov solves this problem, then work on the project will resume anyway.
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October 12, 2019, 05:31:55 PM
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Yeah according to the article it is a temporary restraining order file against the company,  but how will such a well known company carry out an unregistered token offering without going through proper registration process, they never
thought about  the sec! I wonder what will happen to investors, whether they are going to make refunds or it will be resolve soon enough, this does not look like a good beginning.

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October 12, 2019, 06:07:00 PM
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Yeah according to the article it is a temporary restraining order file against the company,  but how will such a well known company carry out an unregistered token offering without going through proper registration process, they never
thought about  the sec! I wonder what will happen to investors, whether they are going to make refunds or it will be resolve soon enough, this does not look like a good beginning.

Come on, You and I know there's no way they'll carry out a token sale without a legal counsel in place. If you had taken time to read the article further, You would've seen the sec is a more concerned because Telegram provided very little information regarding Grams and Telegram’s business operations, financial condition, risk factors, and management that the securities laws require. Also It's unclear if GRAM tokens are securities.

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October 13, 2019, 05:48:09 AM
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Yeah according to the article it is a temporary restraining order file against the company,  but how will such a well known company carry out an unregistered token offering without going through proper registration process, they never
thought about  the sec! I wonder what will happen to investors, whether they are going to make refunds or it will be resolve soon enough, this does not look like a good beginning.

Come on, You and I know there's no way they'll carry out a token sale without a legal counsel in place. If you had taken time to read the article further, You would've seen the sec is a more concerned because Telegram provided very little information regarding Grams and Telegram’s business operations, financial condition, risk factors, and management that the securities laws require. Also It's unclear if GRAM tokens are securities.


You said it yourself     "because Telegram provided very little information regarding Grams and Telegram’s business operations..... "

why withholding the required information necessary to validate the project especially after raising such amount of money, maybe if they had presented this information in the open the sec won't be on their tail, they have legal advisers, they should know better, am just stating the reason why the temporary delay according to the article, I don't need to go any further because the main reason was already glaring.

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October 13, 2019, 06:46:05 AM
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the what the telegram token ? the introduction price was said to be 3usd to 5usd  . that price was high so its a no for me but i dont know about you if you can afford it then go   .

 since telegram is a popular platform , i think their coin can easily skyrocket if ever they' announce or promote it succesfully  .

let us all hope that this gram ( telegram token )will be a way for the alts to recovery and pump   .

So, it's the best time for us to buy it right ? , this token has a very high potential to grow since almost every crypto person has telegram somehow that's for chating or hunting airdrops.
This is a worth waiting for project.

Have you guys checked the latest information about Telegram (GRAM token)? there are many media reporting it,
look at what SEC said about this project and their sale:
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“Our emergency action today is intended to prevent Telegram from flooding the U.S. markets with digital tokens that we allege were unlawfully sold,” said Stephanie Avakian, Co-Director of the SEC’s Division of Enforcement, in a statement. “We allege that the defendants have failed to provide investors with information regarding Grams and Telegram’s business operations, financial condition, risk factors, and management that the securities laws require.”

it is very likely for the investors to get refunded because of this, that means it is over for them. There will be no altcoin season because of this or whatever you want to say.
yes, the SEC has stopped selling GRAM tokens in the US. because GRAM tokens have many problems, and mainly about legal regulations. so GRAM must return the funds of US investors. but that might only be for US, I think gram will continue the project without US investors.
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