bitcoin mining tax breaks

[Jamesrunner]

Trying to decide what to do as far as claiming profit for when my mining business gets off the ground. I've read you can write off electricity costs, startup costs, hardware, ect. Do you need to file for an LLC for this to be possible or can I claim it as self employed income and still claim deductions? Trying to maximize tax breaks to be as profitable as possible.

Let me know what you all suggest, and your experience with this tricky area of mixing crypto and taxes.

Thank you in advance!!!

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[Steamtyme]

It really depends in where you are and what their regulations are around registering and classifying a business. Most of what you describe are universal write-offs for any business. Generally any expense incurred to earn revenue, tax laws come into play here for how to classify each.
Startup costs being written off for purchasing gear generally come as a depreciation of the asset. So an S9 from January of 2018 at say 3000 would have a depreciation of 2800 or so up to this point, if not the full 3000. If you ever did sell it you just have to reapply and count it as income.
Revenue in the form if coins or hosting would be tracked at the price the day you receive the reward. You likely will be selling all coins at first to pay bills and earn back some of the investment capital, so selling the daily reward would be your easiest bet first. This way you use that as your daily revenue. Hosting is easier to track as the price wouldn't fluctuate- peg it to Fiat.
If you want to hold some coins personally. Buy them from the company at the same price it would have sold for. Then you can deal with capital gains/losses personally.
Now you can hold through the company as well but there is a lot more work in tracking held coins value and price.
Best bet is to find a good accountant who understands BTC as an asset with fluctuating value. It helps a new inexperienced business tremendously to have a professional help you navigate this aspect of the business if you have no background yourself

[CryptoBry]

I know that Bitcoin mining business remains to be a good one to enter but there are many obstacles towards making it really profitable. One, the electricity cost of the operation can be eating the biggest percentage of the expenses so if one is located in a country which got a higher cost of power then it may not be feasible to go mining and if one insist then the profits can surely be minimal and the reason why here in my country only a very, very few are mining for Bitcoin right now and those who do are doing it with other cryptocurrencies.

And that is why if the government is quite friendly to this business and offering a locator with some perks and benefits, then one has to go for it and submit all the required documents so one can qualify. Realistically, it would be impossible to write off the cost of power as I think no country is doing that for now. Probably, you are thinking of the income tax which can possibly be reduced or temporary not applied for a certain period of time.

I am not sure where you are located so the best thing you can do is to ask details from the local government you belong and inquire if there are programs for maybe new enterprises and if there are always ask how you can avail of them.

[jackg]

Likensteamtyme said, it depends a lot on where you are and as to what you can write off. You might be able to get a vat exception on mining equipment in certain places too...

In addition to what ateamtyme said also, it's probably best to try to pay for electricity on a daily/weekly basis just in case there are huge fluctuations in the currency you're mining. You can either hold profits in the currency or hold it in fiat (converting daily/weekly) but make sure you're prepared for bills if there's a huge dip...

[Harlot]

When thinking about deductions in a crypto mining operation all you need to do is to remember all the operating cost you have incurred while running this operation. These deductions don't need to be filed so you can legally do it but should be really included as this is the only way to see your true earnings with your mining operation, who knows you might really just be running at a loss and you hadn't earned really anything from it. Just keep in mind that if your hodled those crypto after you mined them and it is worth more now then you are also earning capital gains which is also taxable under capital gains tax.

[teosanru]

Now I think here the biggest problem you would be facing is whether to declare your complete income or not. I am not advocating income concealment but mining income until realised into fiat or transferred to some exchange where you have KYC can't come in the eyes of department. I suggest you to take up only those revenues which you withdraw into fiat or put up on an exchange and use the value on which you converted it into fiat. There are no specific laws regarding disclosure of this income and if scrutinized you can plea that this is sort of an unrealised income. however there is no way it could be scrutinized if you accountant is smart enough.


Coming to expenses you can claim almost all legible expenses done in ordinary furtherance of your business. Decision about creating an LLC is all upto you. LLC attracts larger accountability and therefore have  a bit more formality than declaring business self employed. LLC needs to be registered but carry an advantage of limited liability which in your nature of business doesn't carry any advantage. Because you have almost zero creditors. So i would suggest you to go self employed. Track down all expenses and take bills on your name. Even when you purchase an asset like your hardware you can take certain depreciation allowed as per federal act. As steamtyme said this is subjective based on your place of jurisdiction. So better disclose that for specific advisory.

[HeRetiK]

Now I think here the biggest problem you would be facing is whether to declare your complete income or not. I am not advocating income concealment but mining income until realised into fiat or transferred to some exchange where you have KYC can't come in the eyes of department.

Incorrect. Well, it depends on where you live. In Germany, Austria and the UK for example, mining income is taxed as income based on the fiat value at the time of mining. So essentially it's taxed like any other work where goods are produced or services are provided. The fiat value at the time of sale is irrelevant in this case, although capital tax in case of asset appreciation may still apply, depending on where you live.

For reference:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/tax-on-cryptoassets/cryptoassets-for-individuals#income-tax
https://www.bmf.gv.at/steuern/kryptoassets_besteuerung.html (German only)

[teosanru]

Now I think here the biggest problem you would be facing is whether to declare your complete income or not. I am not advocating income concealment but mining income until realised into fiat or transferred to some exchange where you have KYC can't come in the eyes of department.

Incorrect. Well, it depends on where you live. In Germany, Austria and the UK for example, mining income is taxed as income based on the fiat value at the time of mining. So essentially it's taxed like any other work where goods are produced or services are provided. The fiat value at the time of sale is irrelevant in this case, although capital tax in case of asset appreciation may still apply, depending on where you live.

For reference:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/tax-on-cryptoassets/cryptoassets-for-individuals#income-tax
https://www.bmf.gv.at/steuern/kryptoassets_besteuerung.html (German only)

I already cleared that more specific information could be given if the OP discloses his country. There are only three handful of countries which have such provisions rest 197 world countries are silent or even if 10 more have such provisions majority still lies on the other side. I just gave a compelling treatment which could save up the OP on taxes. Moreover, these shows that department treats such income taxable but the truth is will they ever be able to find total mined income if OP smartly conceals some of his wallets?? There is no KYC after all and I have not seeing any country freezing all assets for minor tax breaks. Practical taxation is far too much than merely reading tax laws.

[YOSHIE]

Not all countries apply tax breaks for Bitcoin miners, as said @Steamtyme.
For example, in my country every miner is not even a penny taxed by an authorized official.
So far in this second, miners only pay for operating electricity bills.
There are also those who rent buildings and mining equipment, that's all there is to pay, nothing else.
That's my country for Bitcoin miners, it's not prohibited and it's not ordered by the government.
In essence, not all countries make tax policies regarding Bitcoin miners, only certain countries.