Which rank can we trust really?

[ifinta]

If I good understand - the bigger ranks, the more new merits are only tools here to scam others. They aren't show, how much your experience or your renown more... Or?
It let possible to scam mostly newbies or not members... All others should know - nobody should trust here anybody. Or?
As greater the rank (i.e.) as bigger tool it is to scam others. Or?
Hero's i.e. got (mostly bought already...) their Rank - because the opportunity in it to scam others... Or?
And many others do great jobs for you - and you will able to pay off they with merits

Why using we then such tools? We should avoid such tools or similar opportunities......
And, if we shouldn't trust others - we should negate the result of this poll. Or?

I locked this poll to save the result

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[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

If we shouldn't trust others -  we should negate the result of this poll.

I tried to comprehend your post but couldn't, replying to the part I qouted above, firstly the poll was a waste of time since it's just a wrong idea to trust anyone just because of his/her rank. You can't never be sure who's behind the accounts on the forum as buying and selling of account occurs daily on the forum so accounts can chances hands at any moment and still stay under the rader for quite some time (days, months or even years) without getting notice. Therefore trusting just because of an account rank is the same as trusting a random online user just because they were the first to discover an opportunity before you. In this case (just because they joined the forum before you did).

Trusting because of posts quality (merit received, style of posting etc) is just stupidity too, also just basing your judgement on the trust the user has recieve is also not advisable since trust are quite easy to manipulate. In my opinion you should only trust those that have quite a excellent record in that area of your interest. If you're interested in a loan, only transact with those that have excellent record in that area, and when you need a third party for more safety, only employ the service of escrow that have proven without any doubt to be considered trustworthy. Still though nothing is gauranteed.

[khaled0111]

And, if we shouldn't trust others - we should negate the result of this poll. Or?

I locked this poll to save the result

I can't see the poll's result but you should know that it doesn't prove anything.
You got the answer for your question in the previous replies but for some reason it seems you are not reading them or just ignoring them because it is not what you were expecting.

[gentlemand]

Accounts which have been active for a long time, and are therefore higher rank, are more likely to have built up a good reputation than a newbie account. Conversely, simply being active for a long time doesn't automatically mean more trustworthy. So although highly trusted accounts are more likely to be highly ranked, higher ranks aren't inherently more trustworthy.

The higher one's rank the bigger the opportunity to burn your account and disappear will be. I've seen many a hint that a decent number of established members don't have a pot to piss in.

No one should be under any illusion that if something landed in a long standing member's lap the temptation to exploit it will be strong and it may only not have happened because the chance hasn't arrived yet. There are enough old schoolers here who wound up screwing people.

We'll never know whether it was a long con or spontaneous but the higher up you go the more is dangled in front of you if you've placed yourself in the right circles.

There've been people I've grown up with who turned around and fucked me for piffling advantage after knowing them for decades. On the internet I'd times that possibility by a few million no matter how carefully crafted someone's rep is.

[malevolent]

This topic used to be pinned in the Newbies section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=33835.0

You shouldn't even trust a moderator without having a good reason, more than one ended up scamming other forum users.

[ifinta]

And, if we shouldn't trust others - we should negate the result of this poll. Or?

I locked this poll to save the result

I can't see the poll's result but you should know that it doesn't prove anything.
You got the answer for your question in the previous replies but for some reason it seems you are not reading them or just ignoring them because it is not what you were expecting.

Please:


Before I locked this poll, I changed my vote - because for Member and Full Member only I voted. You can see, my opinion earlier.

But such members are remained mostly "orig" bitcointalk.org members at this time, I think...
They trying to save the original ideas: P2P community, no trusted third party, not to allow to scamming others and help if somebody was scammed, to change our Economy - to correct our wrong, centralized money system, ...
Such members trying to save and realize Satoshi's dreams. Please see the remark in the first block in Bitcoin-Blockchain.
But we should detect, the dreams wasn't implemented with bitcoin. Please see my opinion on reddit:

Bitcoin is only a paper-money, and it is able to use in our wrong, centralized money system! We use a buzzword for this here: "Fintec" already.

[YOSHIE]

Why we need ranks then?

the ranking is indeed needed in every organization, to determine which are senior and beginner.

Let alone the bitcointalk Forum, in everyday life government has ranks ranging from Group A to D.
This is a sign that the A beginners and B, C and D can be said senior and Legendary.
For me there is nothing strange about the current rank, you just enjoy it between likes and dislikes, it depends on how to think.

If you think well about the current rankings, you don't need to worry about this problem, just give your best you will get what you dream of.

[Dabs]

Trust but Verify.

Personally, I'd copy the rank names of the military, starting with Private, Corporal, Sergeant ... all the way to Captain, Major, Colonel, General. ... Satoshi would be the Commander in Chief or something, and the Staff would become Joint Chiefs ...

[TECSHARE]

Only the most rank of all, corpses. Only they are guaranteed not to cheat you.

[sujonali1819]

I don’t think that there is any relation between Trust and Rank. So a Member rank can be more trusted than a Hero Member. So we should not Justify It with rank. But its right that the more High rank the more chance to stay safe for deal.

I personally trust the forum member who have lots of previous smooth deal history. Again a person with whom I already made some deal previously. 

[OcTradism]

NO.

Trust does not relate to ranks. Trust belongs to the person who uses account, not the account rank.

If a trusted person uses an account in the forum, that account is always trusted, at whatever rank it has at anytime points.

It is trusted at brandnew rank.
It is trusted at Junior member rank.
It is trusted at member rank.
It is trusted along the way to Legendary rank.

If you falls into trust points, it will cause serious traps because trusts can be exchanged as I saw. I see them as faked trusted users and with that kind of 'faked trusted' users, they can change to untrusted at anytime points they want. At the end of their time in the forum, they end as untrusted, scam ones.

[UserU]

I'd want to trust Satoshi, but he pulled a Houdini

[anu1908]

stop bumping and posting on an old thread if you just reply with a generic post that has been mentioned a hundred times before