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January 25, 2020, 12:43:56 AM
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January 25, 2020, 12:23:34 PM
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I don't know how did it happen but I got a penalty again and it's 21 DNA, I'm checking my peers and it always online although it is syncing from time to time but it never reaches 30 minutes that it's syncing, yesterday we have a new node update I hope this new update will prevent our nodes to go offline, I am still looking for a week that I don't have penalty, it's been two weeks like this.

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January 25, 2020, 01:49:55 PM
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Still TestNet but there 615 member on telegram  Shocked Shocked


"Join the Idena testnet now to get the advantage of early mining or subscribe to be notified about the Idena mainnet launch. The Idena mainnet launch is planned for Q3 2020. All the testnet balances will be kept in the mainnet."

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January 25, 2020, 02:27:24 PM
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Finally after 3 successful validation i finally reach verified status, I have 1 shot to miss 1 validation without getting killed  Grin

I notice that the rewards gone down since i joined 3 weeks ago, It would be much painstaking to get penalized in mining and repaying it will be longer this time.

PS: I can invite 1 new user every epoch, if anyone want's to try IDENA simply contact me via PM for the invite code.

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January 25, 2020, 03:30:33 PM
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January 25, 2020, 03:35:34 PM
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I notice that the rewards gone down since i joined 3 weeks ago, It would be much painstaking to get penalized in mining and repaying it will be longer this time.

No, I believe that penalty roughly equals to 10 hours worth of mining and that relation doesn't change with epochs passing by.

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January 25, 2020, 04:51:42 PM
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I notice that the rewards gone down since i joined 3 weeks ago, It would be much painstaking to get penalized in mining and repaying it will be longer this time.

No, I believe that penalty roughly equals to 10 hours worth of mining and that relation doesn't change with epochs passing by.

I've explained it here once:

Current mining penalty is equal to 45,188 DNA = 7,8h of mining.

And time to mine penalty is constant (~8h) because mining speed and mining penalty is based on the same variable which is number of online nodes. No matter how big the network will grow.

My node is having penalty issue too. I've revived 3 of them yesterday. Good thing is that penalties does not sum up. I still have 45 DNA do mine ... not ~90 (3x45 minus minted while node was running)


I think that it is worth to pass it here from telegram (Vitalik vs Andrew) - I can't certify the authenticity but it looks legit.



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the best part of 343 is that 343^0.(3) = 7 - that means that epoch will take 7 days not 6 and few next validations will be lock on Saturdays (day free from work) till we will hit 8^3=512 nodes. I think that jump to 512 will be almost instant than (~1 month).

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This is a link about conversation between Vitalik Buterin and Andrew:
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/vitalik-ca/hard_problems_in_cryptocurrency_five_years_later/

BTW, thanks for clarification about 8 hours of mining in penalty.

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"Join the Idena testnet now to get the advantage of early mining or subscribe to be notified about the Idena mainnet launch. The Idena mainnet launch is planned for Q3 2020. All the testnet balances will be kept in the mainnet."

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Yes, it is hard to believe that idena is still a testnet, but it already has many communities and they are increasing every week. Today's number of validations translates to 343 validated participants. This is truly extraordinary. The release time of mainnet is still long and there are still many opportunities. Smiley

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I notice that the rewards gone down since i joined 3 weeks ago, It would be much painstaking to get penalized in mining and repaying it will be longer this time.

No, I believe that penalty roughly equals to 10 hours worth of mining and that relation doesn't change with epochs passing by.

When there are too many nodes online the mining rewards will go down. Yesterday my 12 hours mining only manage to collect 32 Idena. The week before i can get atleast 60 - 65 Idena

With 343 valid identities / mining rewards = Idena mining rewards per nodes

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I notice that the rewards gone down since i joined 3 weeks ago, It would be much painstaking to get penalized in mining and repaying it will be longer this time.

No, I believe that penalty roughly equals to 10 hours worth of mining and that relation doesn't change with epochs passing by.

When there are too many nodes online the mining rewards will go down. Yesterday my 12 hours mining only manage to collect 32 Idena. The week before i can get atleast 60 - 65 Idena

With 343 valid identities / mining rewards = Idena mining rewards per nodes

This is misleading.

Here's the numbers: ( (51,840 DNA mined a day) ÷ 2 ) ÷ (nodes online)

Let's say one day 200 nodes are online: ( (51,840 DNA mined a day) ÷ 2 ) ÷ (nodes online) = (25,920 DNA ÷ 200 nodes) = 129.6 DNA per node a day

Last week there was ~ 210 nodes a day mining on average. The rewards were ~ 123 DNA per node a day.

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Oh it looks like i was consufed. It is Round(n^0.(3)) not ROUNDDOWN(n^0.(3)). Thanks.

Let's say one day 200 nodes are online: ( (51,840 DNA mined a day) ÷ 2 ) ÷ (nodes online) = (25,920 DNA ÷ 200 nodes) = 129.6 DNA per node a day

Last week there was ~ 210 nodes a day mining on average. The rewards were ~ 123 DNA per node a day.

Well i don't know if that works for mining rewards too but I've just checked that older accounts receive bigger rewards and bigger mining penalties.

I don't know how did it happen but I got a penalty again and it's 21 DNA,

My today penalty = 31.487 DNA
If i have 50% bigger penalty I should also mine 50% faster?

Epoch 33 validation reward for 32 Epoch old account was equal to 199.054 (https://scan.idena.io/address?address=0x18e4b09F96Ee1079b4a4f9600bE92FaE3a25b386#rewards)
Mine (16 epoch old account) received 157.989
Age 1 received 62.698 (https://scan.idena.io/address?address=0x7a16868e5dfe46706dbe54bea291a24220780c63)

I'm not yet sure if that affects mining rewards too. If so than 129.6DNA counted by you is an average reward (f.e. from 30DNA for age 1 to 200DNA for age 33)



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Penalty again....
This happened so many times recently that I think developers need to refund some of the coins to us.
It's not our mistake.

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January 26, 2020, 12:36:04 PM
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This is misleading.

Here's the numbers: ( (51,840 DNA mined a day) ÷ 2 ) ÷ (nodes online)

Let's say one day 200 nodes are online: ( (51,840 DNA mined a day) ÷ 2 ) ÷ (nodes online) = (25,920 DNA ÷ 200 nodes) = 129.6 DNA per node a day

Last week there was ~ 210 nodes a day mining on average. The rewards were ~ 123 DNA per node a day.

Are you mining? My figure was 12 hours mining NOT per day. so my 60-65 IDENA per 12 hours mining rewards is valid 2 weeks before.

Last week rewards goes down to 30 - 32 Idena for 12 hours mining before epoch #33, There are 3 wallet updates last week and i don't know if that affects mining rewards of lower ages nodes compare to older nodes.

I am sharing my first hand experience and not just some random computation, Right now 8 hours mining 30 Idena already.

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I'll write some unnoficall FAQ in order to help comunity out. Many are also on Telegram and Discord, but in this way, people will maybe be able to google out this stuff...
Take this with healty dose of reserve as I'm just a guy who came with these conclusions without bothering devs to confirm it or deny it...
In the time that you are reading this, devs are maybe allready working on a fix and new versions came out...

Idena problems/solutions, frequently asked questions:

q1: Why am I getting black screen during validation in short session?
a1: a) If you are running multiple idena's in same household, your router maybe can't handle too much connections
     b) If you are running remote node, maybe your internet connection/router is failing

q2: Why am I getting black screen during validation in short session for a 10-15 seconds?
a2: If you are running remote node, there is possibility that your OS where the node is, and OS where the client is, are not synced to the same time... Maybe for that 10-15 seconds of difference...

q3: Can I put idena to run on my rig since it's allready online 24/7?
a3: You can but idena can cause different things and behaviour on computer from version to version... It can take all cpu resource or connections so your miner can't work as it should


Also, I've been working on a unnoffical Idena Portal, one stop place for additional FAQ's, tutorials and other usefull information.

Feel free to register an account which enables you to setup:
- Mining monitoring (notifies you by email if your node goes offline)
- Financial card (gives you an estimate of your current DNA holdings)

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And unnoficial Idena tutorials, tips and tricks...
As we are in testnet Smiley buggy things happen, untill stable versions come out, here are some tips and tricks...

1. Windows / run node externaly in a loop:
(this starts node again if it crashes for some reason, if it hangs, this wont help... but it might save you from penalty)

1. in location %userprofile%\AppData\Roaming\Idena\node create run.bat with content:

Code:
@echo off
set /a count=-1
:start
set /a count=count+1
title Idena Restarts: %count%
idena-go.exe
timeout /t 5
goto start

2. in client Settings>Node, turn off Run built-in node
3. run previously created bat
4. from location %userprofile%\AppData\Roaming\Idena\node\datadir open api.key with notepad and copy that key
5. in client, turn on Connect to remote host, paste api key and Save

2. Linux / run node in a loop:
(same as above)

1. Make a run.sh file in the same directory where the node file is, give it permision to be executable.
Code:
while true
do
. /idena-node-linux-0.16.5
sleep 10
done

4. When making flips, pro-tip:
Shuffle them good.. so that start of story and end is clearly mixed up...
Don't leave same start and end picture as in logical flip...
Did you know you can shuffle pictures by dragging picture around?



I've been working on a unnoffical Idena Portal, one stop place for additional FAQ's, tutorials and other usefull information.

Feel free to register an account which enables you to setup:
- Mining monitoring (notifies you by email if your node goes offline)
- Financial card (gives you an estimate of your current DNA holdings)

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January 27, 2020, 12:31:33 AM
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Penalty again....
This happened so many times recently that I think developers need to refund some of the coins to us.
It's not our mistake.

I support this, I was penalized with no idea why I got penalized and I lost a whole day of mining just to pay this penalty, I hope it will not happen again I'm closely monitoring my peers and my connection now to see to it that it will not go offline which I think never happen the last time.

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I have just finished script that checks if node has gone offline and sends you email if node is offline for more than 10minutes.

If you want, PM me with your node address and some email so I can sign you up for checking...


I've been working on a unnoffical Idena Portal, one stop place for additional FAQ's, tutorials and other usefull information.

Feel free to register an account which enables you to setup:
- Mining monitoring (notifies you by email if your node goes offline)
- Financial card (gives you an estimate of your current DNA holdings)

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Penalty again....
This happened so many times recently that I think developers need to refund some of the coins to us.
It's not our mistake.

I support this, I was penalized with no idea why I got penalized and I lost a whole day of mining just to pay this penalty, I hope it will not happen again I'm closely monitoring my peers and my connection now to see to it that it will not go offline which I think never happen the last time.

I guess this was not an isolated case anymore, But the update provided yesterday says they fix that bug and hoping it will not happen again to some random users.

The dev got the premine fund and 100% agree to compensate users who experience this issues.

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