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solosequenosenada
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February 06, 2020, 08:35:14 AM |
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hey hey hey... https://idena.io/?view=manifestoFreedom of speech
Every voice has a right to be heard. Spreading information should be seamless, and publications should be censorship-resistant.
Respect the Idena Manifesto, if you like this SCAM coin. What are you talking about? This is bitcointalk and no one has stopped you from expressing yourself freely. The manifesto has nothing to do with the forum.
I do not like when honest citizens are deceived!
So you show us the truth, oh thank you for your great wisdom. |
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Pofick
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February 06, 2020, 08:46:59 AM |
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You can call me a scammer, I don't care. You need proofs for such accusations, though. So far you didn't tell us anything new or useful on the topic. |
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Ubiubi18
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February 06, 2020, 09:06:50 AM |
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Whaaaat ?!?!?
-unlimited coins
-35 000 000 premined by dev
-25 000 weekly in dev pocket
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- 340 000 weekly to the others pockets. But I agree that the premine is quite high. 340 000/354 = 960... on average per miner...hm...960...25000....960...25000...+35000000 premined...hm... scam scam scam ~ 52,000 DNA are newly minted each day. ~ 1,800 BTC are newly minted each day. |
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Crypt0-B
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February 06, 2020, 09:12:57 AM
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You can call me a scammer, I don't care. You need proofs for such accusations, though. So far you didn't tell us anything new or useful on the topic. hey boy, i never called you a scammer, i told you that wow wow wow, ez boy
your @HERO MEMBER@ means nothing
and this is your STATUS is not a guarantee that you are not a scammer
But for some reason you cut the quote...hm... It looks like you are very proud of being HERRRRO MEMBER with MERIT POINT...but love to insult others... These talking about the leaving train ...scammers always lure in this way...It looks like you is the one of scam team...hm...
Why would you know that being newbie with 0 merit points  ? But mr. not a scammer, tell me plizzz, why you ask for funding 15000 DNA at poor community witch mined 960 DNA per epoch ? But didn't ask it at mr Andrew Idena who has 35 000 000 premined coins and 25000 coins weekly ? Where is your conscience ?? Premine is just to huge and could have a bad impact on the project and they keep accumulating coins for the team on every epoch, if the dev is serious and he is not into a get rich scheme, he can fund those proposed projects, what the miners are getting are just crump.
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Pofick
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February 06, 2020, 10:23:18 AM |
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But mr. not a scammer, tell me plizzz, why you ask for funding 15000 DNA at poor community witch mined 960 DNA per epoch ?
But didn't ask it at mr Andrew Idena who has 35 000 000 premined coins and 25000 coins weekly ?
Where is your conscience ??
Because if you didn't noticed 960 DNA per epoch is the current reward per miner per epoch. But during last 5 months it was much more than that. So there are several whales out there with big chunk of coins. And second, I don't ask it for myself. Just repost interesting messages from dicord. I ain't a third party developer either. Here is distibution calculation with dev's percentage of overall supply in case they won't spend it:  |
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Crypt0-B
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February 06, 2020, 10:36:08 AM |
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But mr. not a scammer, tell me plizzz, why you ask for funding 15000 DNA at poor community witch mined 960 DNA per epoch ?
But didn't ask it at mr Andrew Idena who has 35 000 000 premined coins and 25000 coins weekly ?
Where is your conscience ??
Because if you didn't noticed 960 DNA per epoch is the current reward per miner per epoch. But during last 5 months it was much more than that. So there are several whales out there with big chunk of coins. And second, I don't ask it for myself. Just repost interesting messages from dicord. I ain't a third party developer either. Here is distibution calculation with dev's percentage of overall supply in case they won't spend it: ok, but why greedy dev, the fattest whale, with such a huge premine don't want to finance anything themselves? bruh Saisher said it right - dev can fund those proposed projects. where is this mr. Idena at all, he is not here, neither on discord, nor on telegram. Such a shy dev, always silent |
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Pofick
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February 06, 2020, 11:13:57 AM |
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Actually I saw him answerring direct questions on telegram several times. I think this whole premine thing could be enhanced in future - burned, spent wisely or redestributed somehow (see Nyzo coin). Until then I'll sure invest some money in a fork of this project without such a premine if it appears.
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robelneo
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February 06, 2020, 01:34:33 PM |
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Actually I saw him answerring direct questions on telegram several times. I think this whole premine thing could be enhanced in future - burned, spent wisely or redestributed somehow (see Nyzo coin). Until then I'll sure invest some money in a fork of this project without such a premine if it appears.
I prefer distributing or spent in the development of the project, everything is almost perfect the pre mine is just the big issue and I guess that will be the big issue as we go on because they will just keep accumulating, more epoch more shares for the developers |
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Pofick
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February 06, 2020, 01:47:14 PM |
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Agree, I think the best way would be to send it mostly to zero account which is already meant to be spent on develompent (including third party) based on voitng mechanism. And a little part of it could be just burnt to benefit all the holders.
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DeepLee
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February 06, 2020, 03:04:33 PM |
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Hi there. Can someone give me an invitation code?
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aleix
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February 06, 2020, 04:18:02 PM |
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Hi there. Can someone give me an invitation code?
Sure. Check the PMs |
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quantumj
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February 07, 2020, 01:10:59 AM |
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340 000/354 = 960... on average per miner...hm...960...25000....960...25000...+35000000 premined...hm...
scam scam scam
I don't understand why some people act that way, nobody needs to be "shown the truth". If you think the project is a scam, just ignore it and move on. But they don't, they better start repeating the same thing over and over again and I don't understand what is the point. Idena is not a scam, nobody forces you to buy and you can sell every single one of your Idena that you get from mining, how could it be a scam? Ignorant fuckers for God's sake... hey hey hey... https://idena.io/?view=manifestoFreedom of speech
Every voice has a right to be heard. Spreading information should be seamless, and publications should be censorship-resistant.
Respect the Idena Manifesto, if you like this SCAM coin. I don't understand why some people act that way, nobody needs to be "shown the truth".
I do not like when honest citizens are deceived! None of their manifestos are respected.  Do you know that Inviter can terminate your invitation in any time he want until you become verified person ? You are under his control and depend on him. And this completely contradicts what is written in their manifest - "web without servers and censors, blockchain mining must be democratic, decentralization..." |
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Pofick
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February 07, 2020, 05:51:12 AM |
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Do you know that Inviter can terminate your invitation in any time he want until you become verified person ? You are under his control and depend on him.
And this completely contradicts what is written in their manifest - "web without servers and censors, blockchain mining must be democratic, decentralization..."
You can pretend being normal person to your inviter during your first epochs - until becoming verifed... and only then go mad |
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quantumj
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February 07, 2020, 06:12:28 AM |
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Do you know that Inviter can terminate your invitation in any time he want until you become verified person ? You are under his control and depend on him.
And this completely contradicts what is written in their manifest - "web without servers and censors, blockchain mining must be democratic, decentralization..."
You can pretend being normal person to your inviter during your first epochs - until becoming verifed... and only then go mad This is what I'm talking about. If at some point the inviter decides that he doesn't like you, he will terminate the invitation. What kind of decentralization and democracy can we talk about here? Shit, not a manifesto. |
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lemonandfriesonetwo
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February 07, 2020, 06:54:21 AM |
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Do you know that Inviter can terminate your invitation in any time he want until you become verified person ? You are under his control and depend on him.
And this completely contradicts what is written in their manifest - "web without servers and censors, blockchain mining must be democratic, decentralization..."
You can pretend being normal person to your inviter during your first epochs - until becoming verifed... and only then go mad This is what I'm talking about. If at some point the inviter decides that he doesn't like you, he will terminate the invitation. What kind of decentralization and democracy can we talk about here? Shit, not a manifesto. And at the same time the inviter will not earn the rewards from the invitation. Inviter can judge if you will not use the invitation and instead give it to someone who will not waste it. |
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quantumj
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February 07, 2020, 07:11:54 AM |
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Do you know that Inviter can terminate your invitation in any time he want until you become verified person ? You are under his control and depend on him.
And this completely contradicts what is written in their manifest - "web without servers and censors, blockchain mining must be democratic, decentralization..."
You can pretend being normal person to your inviter during your first epochs - until becoming verifed... and only then go mad This is what I'm talking about. If at some point the inviter decides that he doesn't like you, he will terminate the invitation. What kind of decentralization and democracy can we talk about here? Shit, not a manifesto. And at the same time the inviter will not earn the rewards from the invitation. Inviter can judge if you will not use the invitation and instead give it to someone who will not waste it. And does inviter have extrasensory abilities? Nope. Can he predict who will use the code and who will not? Nope. If you gave the code to someone, you have no right to recall it back. It is a principle of democracy and decentralization. |
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btcltc2017
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February 07, 2020, 07:15:41 AM |
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Tytanowy Janusz
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February 07, 2020, 08:29:17 AM |
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It is a principle of democracy and decentralization.
That has nothing in common with democracy and decentralization ... I think that you are using big words to spread FUD. Where you have centralization here? This feature is made not as a tool to attack others/to restrict rights. It is made to make sybil attacks as hard as it is possible. The Idena protocol introduces incentives to prevent participants from buying and selling invitations. The person who sells an invitation can kill the invited participant during the next three epochs. The seller can double-spend the invitation by selling it multiple times. Invitations should be granted for free to trusted people only (relatives, friends, and so on). And all i can do as an inviter is to kill max 2 epoch old account which is worthless (despite few stake coins that will be burned ~5-10$ loss for this poor guy) what will give me 0 profit. What's the point of doing that? So much FUD, big words and this will harm 1 person out of 1000 only because he took invitation from stupid bustard (and it is not recommended to use/give invitation to random). I think that you are Troll/paid FUD maker. I suggest everyone to simply ignore him. Maybe he will go away. |
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