What is the Deep State?

[BADecker]

The taboo was called conflict of interest. It's not that people were more honest (maybe), but it's that the size of government was small enough that people could be monitored more easily.


What is the Deep State?

One can almost hear the agitprop machinery grinding its gears in an attempt to both mask and denounce the simple concept of “Deep State”. It reminds me of what they tried to do with “naked short selling” until in 2008, when further obfuscation became impossible because their financial system melted around them and they had to pass emergency regulations to save it from the thing that months earlier they had been denying existed. They are trying the same thing with the concept of “Deep State” now, which is somewhat comical, because I had no idea that there was anyone left in America who didn’t understand that there is a Deep State. It is like conversing with one of those fellows whose toupee has come loose and who does not realize it: one does not know whether to look away or to hold his eyes and keep talking, hoping that he wakes up and fixes it without one having to embarrass him.

It is really quite simple to explain. The way the various departments and agencies of our federal government work is that there is the organization itself, and then there is the political oversight of the organization. In some countries they would call figures who provide such political oversight, “commissars”. In our country, we call them, “political appointees”.

There is nothing wrong with it: it is how our government should work. For example, when a new president is elected, there are about 4,000 positions across the federal government that the new president appoints. Over the Army, for example, there is a Secretary of the Army, and then a number of Assistant Secretaries. They are not taking civilians and suddenly making them Generals. The political appointees are the class that gets established over the Generals to make sure that the organization (in this case, the United States Army) has proper oversight from the elected President, and is shaped and led in a way that is consistent with that President’s policies.

For example, if the President says that LGBTQ soldiers should be in a position of equality within the Army, or that combat roles should be open to women, then it is the political appointees over the Army that make sure that policy is implemented. If the President wants to de-emphasize treating HIV in Africa, and instead shift to malaria-prevention, the political appointees at USAID (or CFDC?) make that so.

This is to be applauded. it is how we citizens control our government: our priorities and beliefs shape which candidate we elect, and then that candidate gets to make these 4,000 appointments so that the activities of the government reflect those priorities and desires of the citizenry. That is how it worked for over two centuries.

Here is where it went wrong. For over 80% of the history of the USA, there was a taboo that kept people from serving as political appointees, then afterwards, taking jobs in the departments and agencies they had just been overseeing. It was considered unseemly, and merely good institutional design to have that taboo. Appointees were expected to serve out their president, and when the party in power changed, to move into another line of work, in business or academia or private practice. Perhaps when their party came back into power they might take another turn in public service, and accept another position as a political appointee, but they were not supposed to go back into the bureaucracy they had just been overseeing. I am not sure there was ever a formal rule against it, yet all understood the institutional design imperatives that made the taboo valuable.

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[notbatman]

IMO the "deep state" is a cabal of homosexuals, pedophiles, murderers and cannibals placed into positions of power and influence by God's chosen people. It's a blackmail racket.

[Jet Cash]

The deep state is the morphed British Empire as proposed by Cecil Rhodes, and is based on wealthy dynasties, bankers and media tycoons. Much of it's planning and infrastructure comes from the City of London and the Eton/Oxford elite, and representatives of the ruling dynasties attend conferences such as Bilderberg. The 3 dominant dynasties are the British Crown, The Vatican and the Rothschilds.

[Daniel91]

According to what I understand from numerous articles I read on the subject, deep states are parallel structures of government, who have their own agenda, which includes ruling over others and getting rich without public control.
I don't understand who their representatives are.
It seems to me that they are most mentioned in the context of America.
I would like to hear more about it.

[BADecker]

According to what I understand from numerous articles I read on the subject, deep states are parallel structures of government, who have their own agenda, which includes ruling over others and getting rich without public control.
I don't understand who their representatives are.
It seems to me that they are most mentioned in the context of America.
I would like to hear more about it.

The whole US Government is the Deep State. The Deep State that Trump is fighting is simply one faction of the real Deep State. The Trump government is another faction. Why? Research the following.

Check the Contract Clause in the Constitution. The courts have adjudicated that this applies to people making contracts. If you can contract in to something, you have the right to contract out, and Government doesn't have any right to interfere with a contract.

Check out "persons" in the 4th Amendment. Suppose your name is listed on a court document. The judge asks you in court if it is you. Most people say "yes." But, if you jab the piece of paper with a knife, does it bleed? But you bleed if you are jabbed. Learn that the name on the paper is a person, while you are a man or woman. If you have signed the court document, the person might be yours. If you haven't signed the doc, the court is trying to pull a fast one on you by claiming that their person is you.

Check out the 6th and 7th Amendments, and jury nullification. When a proper, Constitutional jury makes a ruling, it can't be appealed or overruled. The jury can nullify laws, court cases, requests made in court, etc... and it can essentially make new laws to apply to a specific case that it hears.

This stuff that I am writing is the real Government. But you seldom hear about it straight-forward from any of the Deep State, be they Trump, the Dem leaders, or the courts and Judcial System.

[notbatman]

It's all explained in the King James Bible, just read that and you're good.

[BADecker]

It's all explained in the King James Bible, just read that and you're good.

But the NIV explains it better. However, both the KJV and the NIV are taken from Masoretic (as are almost all translations), which has lately been proven to be a cleverly distorted version, done by the Jews back around 150 A.D.

When you combine the various Septuagint versions with the writings of Josephus (done before the Jews' clever distortion), you get a better view of what the original Bible writings really were. Check out these for starters:
- http://www.bible.ca/manuscripts/Josephus-Flavius-Chronology-Genesis5-Textual-variants-Bible-manuscripts-Old-Testament-Torah-Tanakh-creation-5467BC-age-earth-Daniel9-70-weeks-70AD.htm
- http://www.bible.ca/manuscripts/Septuagint-LXX-Greek-Bible-entire-Tanakh-39-books-translated-complete-by-150BC.htm
- http://www.bible.ca/manuscripts/Septuagint-LXX-birth-historical-accounts-origin-antiochus-II-Letter-of-Aristeas-Aristobulus-Philo-Josephus-Justin-Martyr-Irenaeus-Eusebius-Irenaeus-Augustine-282BC.htm

None of this clearly defines the Deep State in America today... except if you want to believe that the Jews are behind all the problems.

[BADecker]

Look at what Dems and liberals are doing now. Click the link and watch the video.


The time has come for President Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act and put down the lawless, left-wing insurrection against America

Just last night, lunatic left-wing mobs violently attacked Trump supporters who were leaving the Trump rally in Minneapolis. Via Breitbart News:

Left-wing rioters attacked supporters of President Donald Trump leaving a rally in Minneapolis, Minnesota on Thursday evening — assaulting them in groups, setting fire to pro-Trump hats, and attacking the police.

Trump supporters are literally fleeing the event after it ended as protestors are waiting around attacking attendees as they leave the arena

It is not safe in Minneapolis any longer for Trump supporters. Please stay away from the vicinity and do not come out with branded gear.

[BADecker]

So this is what Trump was doing all along. Maybe the corruption that went underground long ago will finally be halted in its growth for a while. But I think Trump has a long way to go, and he better watch out clearly for backlash is some subtle way.


Deep state in total panic as Durham's investigation confirmed to have transitioned to CRIMINAL.

Those most likely to face criminal indictments are John Brennan and James Clapper, which may lead to evidence implicating James Comey, Robert Mueller, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, among others.

As the New York Times reported:

For more than two years, President Trump has repeatedly attacked the Russia investigation, portraying it as a hoax and illegal even months after the special counsel closed it. Now, Mr. Trump's own Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation into how it all began… Justice Department officials have shifted an administrative review of the Russia investigation closely overseen by Attorney General William P. Barr to a criminal inquiry, according to two people familiar with the matter. The move gives the prosecutor running it, John H. Durham, the power to subpoena for witness testimony and documents, to impanel a grand jury and to file criminal charges.

[chaoscoinz]

The Wikipedia's definition of DeepState:
  "In the United States, the term "deep state" is used to describe a conspiracy theory which suggests that collusion and cronyism exist within the US political system and constitutes a hidden government within the legitimately elected government."
 
 Kind of like what's been surrounding Trump these days with all the nonsense about collision, and getting foreign leaders to aid him. It's all bunk in my opinion, and I serve neither political party, but If I had to choose, it would probably be Republican.
 

[BADecker]

The Wikipedia's definition of DeepState:
  "In the United States, the term "deep state" is used to describe a conspiracy theory which suggests that collusion and cronyism exist within the US political system and constitutes a hidden government within the legitimately elected government."
 
 Kind of like what's been surrounding Trump these days with all the nonsense about collision, and getting foreign leaders to aid him. It's all bunk in my opinion, and I serve neither political party, but If I had to choose, it would probably be Republican.
 

It's reasonably obvious that the Deep State has been doing exactly the things that they are accusing Trump of, only way worse than the way they are accusing Trump.

[Mandoy]

A deep state is similar to a dark web. If the dark web is the a darkest and hideous part of the internet where illicit and illegal activities where done. Deep state is the shadow government where secret dealings are done. Deep State is also affiliated to the Illuminati whose goal is to integrate satanic culture into the society through the government. There primary goal is to have a monopoly on the states government authority to have control over financial system. It is their way to gain more riches and wealth using the government as a tool.

[BADecker]

If you want to understand that the Deep State really exists, read this article. It's a bit deep itself. But if you take the time to read through it slowly, it will prove that the Trump "regime" is not acting out of line with our Constitution and with the rights of average people. It will clearly show that the Deep State is opposition to what is right and to our rights and against our Constitution. But you need to read slowly and let the points sink in.


The Deep State Out in the Open Calls for a Military Coup against Trump

Aware of my positions on issues, and, yes, having actually read a few of the columns and essays I've written over the years, my friend—let's call him Dave—enjoys needling me as a "conspiracy theorist." And at that event he was at it again.

I don't mind his banter, and, in a jocular fashion, I hand it right back at him.

This past Christmas Dave was all exercised about some of my pieces on "the Deep State," and insisted that such discussion was nothing more than "right-wing talking points," "conspiratorial exaggerations about legitimate government," and, basically, much ado about nothing. The Deep State he explained, did not really exist—rather, I was "making it all up," and that my criticism was actually misdirected at noble professionals who had dedicated their lives and careers to what he termed "the betterment of all Americans."

How dare I attack those hard-working men and women who actually "made this country work!" [I am quoting his words, as I distinctly remember them.]

[Spendulus]

IMO the "deep state" is a cabal of homosexuals, pedophiles, murderers and cannibals placed into positions of power and influence by God's chosen people. It's a blackmail racket.

To join the cabal, must one be simultaneously a homo, pedo, murderer and a cannibal?

I'm not even close...