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November 03, 2019, 03:48:58 PM
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I advised OP to update the thread with links to team members social media profiles provided by him.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196479.msg52959117#msg52959117

But nothing was done. And one more question. What is the total supply of coins and how big is the premine?

The links for team members are all in the OP (at the bottom) as requested. I believe they are also being added to the website too once some other tasks are completed.

Coin Specs are in the OP and also in the post directly above yours.

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I advised OP to update the thread with links to team members social media profiles provided by him.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196479.msg52959117#msg52959117

But nothing was done. And one more question. What is the total supply of coins and how big is the premine?


Adding social media links of all or most team members is not essential but it brings about more confidence for their user base or potential user base. What is key here is the manner in which they are dealing with anything they deem as criticism.

They claim they did not pay for shills but shills have been posting here.

They expect users from this forum to go their Discord but their own team is asking questions here.

They post in a condescending manner or trivialise concerns just to cause misdirection. They think by either burying their inept reply to specific questions under a largely worded paragraph or by counter-questioning they somehow are helping their cause.

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November 03, 2019, 04:05:21 PM
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I advised OP to update the thread with links to team members social media profiles provided by him.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196479.msg52959117#msg52959117

But nothing was done. And one more question. What is the total supply of coins and how big is the premine?

The links for team members are all in the OP (at the bottom) as requested. I believe they are also being added to the website too once some other tasks are completed.

Coin Specs are in the OP and also in the post directly above yours.



I see. OP saved some money and time. He did not changed anything in ANN. He just added all links at the end of the topic as a post. Ok. We have 2 500 000 coins as a premine.... Could I ask what is the total supply? because it is not mentioned in "Economic Specification" And one more question. Are you a developer or a team member? Because you are answering all questions instead of OP.
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November 03, 2019, 04:15:09 PM
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I'm sorry but you come in here all high and mighty making a huge post about all these huge "RED FLAGS" and claims. Most of them have now been resolved and those that haven't are being worked on.

They have said the T&C issue will be sorted and it will but it is the weekend (Sunday) and not everyone is readily available on call 24/7 for a matter that while you may find as hugely important, in the grand scheme of things it is not exactly priority number one and can wait until Monday.

As for my "condescending manner" and "misdirection" maybe it's because you came in here making a huge post with big "RED FLAGS" based on your professional assessment of the project, just stopping short of calling the entire project a scam. I personally have taken offence to that knowing the work that people have put into Zentoshi by actually talking to the team and working with them despite me only joining them 2 weeks ago.

So yeah I fully admit I am a bit pissed off with this thread turning into a shitshow as it undermines all the work that has been done to get Zentoshi ready for launch.
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November 03, 2019, 04:35:29 PM
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I see. OP saved some money and time. He did not changed anything in ANN. He just added all links at the end of the topic as a post. Ok. We have 2 500 000 coins as a premine.... Could I ask what is the total supply? because it is not mentioned in "Economic Specification" And one more question. Are you a developer or a team member? Because you are answering all questions instead of OP.

They stuck them at the bottom as a quick fix, a proper sheet is being created as is the team page on the website so will be updated once they are ready.

Getting the devs to answer you about the supply questions as I wouldn't want to give an incorrect answer so someone should be along shortly to answer your query.

I am not a dev just a team member helping them out with some things and answering questions where I can.
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November 03, 2019, 04:47:09 PM
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Getting the devs to answer you about the supply questions as I wouldn't want to give an incorrect answer so someone should be along shortly to answer your query.
I am not a dev just a team member helping them out with some things and answering questions where I can.

So you are a team member and you do not know what is the total supply? That information is the most important thing for any project. 2.500 000 is a huge premine, but let us discuss that after the information about the amount of TS will be published. Anyway, we are waiting for requested corrections regarding your website, ANN and the information about TS and premine. I hope that next week we will have some updates.
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November 03, 2019, 04:55:53 PM
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Getting the devs to answer you about the supply questions as I wouldn't want to give an incorrect answer so someone should be along shortly to answer your query.
I am not a dev just a team member helping them out with some things and answering questions where I can.

So you are a team member and you do not know what is the total supply? That information is the most important thing for any project. 2.500 000 is a huge premine, but let us discuss that after the information about the amount of TS will be published. Anyway, we are waiting for requested corrections regarding your website, ANN and the information about TS and premine. I hope that next week we will have some updates.
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My time with Zentoshi has mostly been spent organising their Medium page and team members on socials as well as connecting them to other outlets like CMC, Blockfolio, Messari, etc. I do have figures but as I am not 100% on them I wouldn’t like to say incase they are inaccurate hence why I would like a dev to answer you that knows the correct answer so there is no confusion.
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November 03, 2019, 04:59:35 PM
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I advised OP to update the thread with links to team members social media profiles provided by him.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196479.msg52959117#msg52959117

But nothing was done. And one more question. What is the total supply of coins and how big is the premine?

The links for team members are all in the OP (at the bottom) as requested. I believe they are also being added to the website too once some other tasks are completed.

Coin Specs are in the OP and also in the post directly above yours.



I see. OP saved some money and time. He did not changed anything in ANN. He just added all links at the end of the topic as a post. Ok. We have 2 500 000 coins as a premine.... Could I ask what is the total supply? because it is not mentioned in "Economic Specification" And one more question. Are you a developer or a team member? Because you are answering all questions instead of OP.

Hello,

We have 2,500,000 coins being pre-mined. 700,000 of those coins are being distributed to Zentoshi's operating capital which is used to pay our team members and fund our budget. The other 1,800,000 coins are being locked to be unlocked through community governance voting. We have a system being implemented which will enable cold interest on our chain and lock coins for a determined period. This will lock the coins and make them unavailable during that period. We plan to lock these coins in 12 month periods and will carry voting across our community should we find use or need for those coins to be utilized. Otherwise they will be perpetually locked.

At launch we will have a total of 700,000 coins circulating, 50,000 coins being sold as utility for our platforms.

We have an article on our medium that can be found here: https://medium.com/zentoshi/the-zentoshi-budget-e2208693f61e

In which explains this in more detail pertaining to our budget.

Yankee is also a senior level member in our organization with a C-level title as our Chief Marketing Officer. He is not paid to shill, he is here to lead our marketing strategies and give guidance to our team members for marketing activities. His word is as good as mine. Smiley He is actively integrated in our leadership and is a crucial member of our team and we are very happy to have him on board!

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November 03, 2019, 05:18:00 PM
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In regards to inflation/total supply:

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I'm sorry but you come in here all high and mighty making a huge post about all these huge "RED FLAGS" and claims. Most of them have now been resolved and those that haven't are being worked on.
I was not high and mighty at all. I simply presented my concerns with evidence in that post you refer to which I have copied it below.

Of the three red flags I raised none have been resolved but you claim most of them have been resolved.

Absolutely no believable explanation has been provided as to first why so many newbies posted here and second why several of those newbies have had recent 'email address changes' or have been 'recently woken up' miraculously found this thread when they had more of chance of finding Bitcoin, Ethereum or XRP threads. The possible explanations provided for those two things happening do nothing except insult the intelligence of those reading them.

As for the website with its atrocious errors, all that has happened is that the terms and conditions link and the policy links have been diverted to the home page of the website but as you said that is being worked on.


First of all I have to say I looked at the OP and read all of the 50 current posts in the thread at the time I posted this. I then I went to the website to look around.

In a nutshell, there are too many red flags for any investor to actually take this seriously. Maybe some bounty hunters would consider participating for some of those 7000 tokens up for grabs even if they know this project is not trustworthy because they might hope to sell as soon as they can providing they even receive their bounty in the first place.

So, here are some of the problems surrounding this project which makes me advise all potential investors and all potential bounty participants to stay well away from it.


RED FLAG #1 - The number of newbies attracted to this project
- There are a total of 50 posts in this thread excluding my one. Mine is post #51:

- Thread Page 1 posts: OP=5  Newbies=14  Full Member=1
- Thread Page 2 posts: OP=8  Newbies=6    Full Member=2  Member=2   Legendary=2
- Thread Page 3 posts: OP=3  Newbies=3    Full Member=1  Member=1   Hero Member=1  Snr Member=1

Of the posts made in this thread (excluding posts from the thread starter and those questioning its integrity necromastery x1, mine x1 and mosprognoz x1), it is dominated with newbies making around 72% (or 23 out of 32) posts.



RED FLAG #2 - The background of those newbies attracted to this project
- I will not focus on this aspect too much because there are too many newbies to list but picking up on just a handful from the first page of this thread.

User Pierre Dilecto in particular made laugh with an unbelievable amount of knowledge in this field compared to the other sock-puppets, just read his two posts.


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RED FLAG #3 - The website is unforgivably pathetic
https://www.zentoshi.com/about-us
- It tells us nothing about who the actual people are with full names behind this project are
- It tells us nothing about any LLC that might be owning this project such as location, name, incorporation number - nothing

- The links in the footer for the "Terms and Conditions" and the "Policy" do not work, they are diverted to:
(https://www.cips.org/Documents/Resources/Downloadable%20documents/CoreClausesBoilerPlate.pdf)

- the footer shows "© 2019 All rights reserved. Zentoshi Limited Liability Company" which allowed a quick search to bring this up: https://www.bizapedia.com/wy/zentoshi-limited-liability-company.html
This information should be available in the About Us pages and via the FAQ too but it is not there along with names. MICHAEL WEINRUB is listed as the Organiser.



I can add more red flags but will stop here as I made my point. As mentioned earlier I would advise all potential investors and all potential bounty participants to stay well away from this project.

As for the viability of this project along with the ethos, objectives and technology behind it, it requires more investigation but for now I will stop short of calling this project a scam because so far:

 - they have made ridiculous errors on their website which will most probably be blamed on an oversight
 - seem to have deliberately hidden real information about the team behind this project
 - they have some sort of sock-puppet paid shills service pumping this Announcement thread
 - Not linked directly on their website for visitors again not giving full Team information: https://www.zentoshi.com/media/Zentoshi-Whitepaper-SD.pdf



They have said the T&C issue will be sorted and it will but it is the weekend (Sunday) and not everyone is readily available on call 24/7 for a matter that while you may find as hugely important, in the grand scheme of things it is not exactly priority number one and can wait until Monday.
The best course of action in a scenario which you describe would have been to holding page on the website until those essentials were added.


As for my "condescending manner" and "misdirection" maybe it's because you came in here making a huge post with big "RED FLAGS" based on your professional assessment of the project, just stopping short of calling the entire project a scam. I personally have taken offence to that knowing the work that people have put into Zentoshi by actually talking to the team and working with them despite me only joining them 2 weeks ago.
It makes no difference how hard the team have worked and it makes no difference how long you have been part of a project you will receive payment for, you are employed to promote them in return for tokens they will give you. Your comment above which is the one I highlighted seems designed more to impress your employers and seems to express your frustration at being unable to represent or promote any project in a diligent manner with common courtesy being at the forefront.  


So yeah I fully admit I am a bit pissed off with this thread turning into a shitshow as it undermines all the work that has been done to get Zentoshi ready for launch.
Then you really should never have jumped on board this project. You were hired to promote this project, you brought it here to this forum knowing you will never be able to control the narrative because users will ask questions and then dissect as well as analyse those answers.

I still have no intention of calling this project a scam because I think it is not a scam. I will not hesitate to make a scam thread or back up an existing one if I see something that warrants it but I do not see this as a scam....

Here is what seems evident:

- The claims being made are from an inexperienced team consisting of a collective member group far smaller than they actually are
- The team are a group of people who will never make even a iota of difference to any technology (internet, blockchain, commerce etc) with this project because they are dreamers
- If it ever does get started the team will get bored and tired of the 'project' very soon and it will become one of many hundreds that simply failed with token holders losing money but the team will obviously make money

Gross incompetence does not equate to scam but since this thread has been side-tracked from the contents of the announcement to questions surrounding the integrity of the team, it seems the biggest mistake the project owners made was hiring you. If you are responsible for being their social media and promotions manager then the buck stops with you because it would have been impossible for those sock-puppets and paid shills to post here unless they were guided here. If the OP claims ignorance about sock-puppets and paid shills then you cannot.


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I’m sorry but no you absolutely are making a huge issue out of nothing and doing everything you can to undermine the project.

Red flag 1 and 2 are essentially the same thing, newbie accounts or inactive ones suddenly becoming active and posting here. They already said we made a big deal about the ANN thread launching, I even wrote an article about it for our Medium and shared it in all our socials to let everyone know so of course it will direct some traffic here as that was the intention to give visibility to this thread.

https://link.medium.com/HpEsA6iXj1

As for actually posting here my 2 posts I made in this thread prior to today have been dealt with here as I got called out as a “professional shillers”

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198234.new#new

Red Flag 3 being the T&C as said it will be dealt with but as it’s the weekend they just did a quick change until the proper fix can be put in place.

So can you please explain what exactly further needs to be done here to address these 3 concerns of yours.

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Oh and for the record you are making some big assumptions about my feelings on this thread. I am genuinely pissed off, I am not doing anything to “impress my employers” in fact they warned me against venting my frustrations. Also for the record the only things I had to do with this thread was do the Medium article and get it posted on the socials. I had no input in its creation/design/release and just had the 2 posts I had made on it prior to today.
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November 03, 2019, 06:51:12 PM
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I’m sorry but no you absolutely are making a huge issue out of nothing and doing everything you can to undermine the project.
You did that yourself the moment you got sock-puppets to post here.

I never wanted to undermine this project, I pointed out several flaws because paid shills from a pumping service that you instructed to post here in order to generate fake buzz brought it to the attention of one user who bought it to my attention.



Red flag 1 and 2 are essentially the same thing, newbie accounts or inactive ones suddenly becoming active and posting here. They already said we made a big deal about the ANN thread launching, I even wrote an article about it for our Medium and shared it in all our socials to let everyone know so of course it will direct some traffic here as that was the intention to give visibility to this thread.
Your post on Medium was not the reason sock-puppets posted here. The OP claimed he did not know anything about therefore you being their social media and promotions manager were the one that used them only to see it spectacularly backfire. Blaming it on an article instead of owning does nothing except casts further doubt on this project.



https://link.medium.com/HpEsA6iXj1

As for actually posting here my 2 posts I made in this thread prior to today have been dealt with here as I got called out as a “professional shillers”

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198234.new#new
Yes I read both links you provided and it strengthens my view that the Medium article is being used as a convenient scapegoat.



Red Flag 3 being the T&C as said it will be dealt with but as it’s the weekend they just did a quick change until the proper fix can be put in place.
You repeating what I already stated.



So can you please explain what exactly further needs to be done here to address these 3 concerns of yours.
No.


I will give it a couple of days before maybe popping back here to see what is going on an what other users are posting.

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November 03, 2019, 07:07:00 PM
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And yet you are still making your assumptions as though they are fact, making claims that I have organised “paid shills” from a “pumping service” when my only involvement in this thread was the 2 posts that I made. I had nothing to do with this threads creation, release or management apart from the Medium article and posts about it on the social channels.

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Just remembered I did ask them to add the release date to title of the thread too so can add that to the list for my involvement in this thread.
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I’m sorry but no you absolutely are making a huge issue out of nothing and doing everything you can to undermine the project.
You did that yourself the moment you got sock-puppets to post here.

I never wanted to undermine this project, I pointed out several flaws because paid shills from a pumping service that you instructed to post here in order to generate fake buzz brought it to the attention of one user who bought it to my attention.



Red flag 1 and 2 are essentially the same thing, newbie accounts or inactive ones suddenly becoming active and posting here. They already said we made a big deal about the ANN thread launching, I even wrote an article about it for our Medium and shared it in all our socials to let everyone know so of course it will direct some traffic here as that was the intention to give visibility to this thread.
Your post on Medium was not the reason sock-puppets posted here. The OP claimed he did not know anything about therefore you being their social media and promotions manager were the one that used them only to see it spectacularly backfire. Blaming it on an article instead of owning does nothing except casts further doubt on this project.



https://link.medium.com/HpEsA6iXj1

As for actually posting here my 2 posts I made in this thread prior to today have been dealt with here as I got called out as a “professional shillers”

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198234.new#new
Yes I read both links you provided and it strengthens my view that the Medium article is being used as a convenient scapegoat.



Red Flag 3 being the T&C as said it will be dealt with but as it’s the weekend they just did a quick change until the proper fix can be put in place.
You repeating what I already stated.



So can you please explain what exactly further needs to be done here to address these 3 concerns of yours.
No.


I will give it a couple of days before maybe popping back here to see what is going on an what other users are posting.

Hello everyone,
I hope you are all doing well,
We feel as if this thread is getting derailed, we understand your concern Jolly, could you give a chance for other people to talk, if even to share your concerns, it seems you are quite attached to our project. While I appreciate your consistent involvement, it is creating pages where no real dialogue is taking place. We believe you have listed your concerns at this point and given plenty for people to think about, please let other investors have a chance to speak as this is our thread for our ANN.
We are not dreamers, in fact we expected hate and a lot of resistance that comes with building cutting-edge technology. In a world full of PIVX clones on outdated versions, there will always be backlash to those who pave the future of the technology. What we've been building for a year and half, there is no other project like it. Bitcoin core v0.18 & dash deterministic MNs, people will even come to fork our code once we're done here.
We understand those people might not include you, as you do not like our project, but the technology is real, the team that built it is real, the platforms that use the tech are real whether you call us dreamers or scammers we're here to stay. In fact our testnet is up if anyone wants to test and see that technology first hand.
We ask you kindly, you have stated your concerns and your red flags, people will have a chance to read it and make up their own mind, at this point isn't this beyond just good intentions?
Thank you for your service on BTT,
We know in this crypto world full of scams that it is often our first response to look at the bad of a project, we've become jaded from scams, money lost, dreams crashed and exits. But we assure you, if you wait until we are live and see the change we are making in this space, you would be all for it.

I advised OP to update the thread with links to team members social media profiles provided by him.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196479.msg52959117#msg52959117

But nothing was done. And one more question. What is the total supply of coins and how big is the premine?

The links for team members are all in the OP (at the bottom) as requested. I believe they are also being added to the website too once some other tasks are completed.

Coin Specs are in the OP and also in the post directly above yours.



I see. OP saved some money and time. He did not changed anything in ANN. He just added all links at the end of the topic as a post. Ok. We have 2 500 000 coins as a premine.... Could I ask what is the total supply? because it is not mentioned in "Economic Specification" And one more question. Are you a developer or a team member? Because you are answering all questions instead of OP.

Hello mospronoz,

Yes, in business it is often smart to have your balance sheet and financials checked out. We do not believe any attempt to save money nor time when we are working hard to build new technology and going live should be something looked down upon. Plainly stating, we have a community to satisfy rather than your demands; to answer your other questions, we limited what is on the website and put it all in the whitepaper, which we spent 4 months carefully writing and 6 months to design for you all to read and enjoy. You'll find its quality unparalleled anywhere else much like the quality of our technology. Understand that changing designs on a website, and then having that design coded 1:1 is expensive, it took us a week to design the BTT ANN, and much longer to design our website.
We're focusing on going live and then we will make these changes.
We hope you understand that this is our business, and we make decisions that we feel is best on how to operate it, with our combined years of running and managing successful projects.
We are thankful for your understanding and your concerns that you have listed,
We ask that you please let the thread continue on, as you have given the readers 2-3 pages to read, and this is enough at this point,
Thank you,
Zentoshi Team
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November 04, 2019, 02:48:57 AM
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In the meantime, if testnet started can we get details here...
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November 04, 2019, 05:20:18 AM
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In the meantime, if testnet started can we get details here...

Hello!

Testnet is live, you can currently download the QT compiled .exe for windows here: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/569083787783438346/640731867997405214/zentoshi-qt.zip

Cheers!
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November 04, 2019, 06:14:52 AM
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Nice coin with good concept, how can i mine zentoshi?
is there any active mining pool , im intrested to mine this coin.
reserved for exchange updates, thanks

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November 04, 2019, 06:20:38 AM
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Nice coin with good concept, how can i mine zentoshi?
is there any active mining pool , im intrested to mine this coin.
reserved for exchange updates, thanks

Hello!

We are currently running a testnet, you can see how your mining gear performs through our modified balloon hashing algo if you wish. All you require is an AMD or Intel processor, it is a memory hard CPU mining algo. We also have PoS enabled to alongside PoW. We have more details in our Discord!

We will be working with 2 mining pools at launch on Nov. 7, one being BSoD.pw who have been a great partner of ours thus far!
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November 04, 2019, 06:25:08 AM
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So you claim that you are not shilling your Ann, but the moment people started asking about it, newbies suddenly disappeared. How convenient.

I am still here, I have been monitoring this thread to see how the team handled and resolved it. You all have pointed out many concerns and criticisms that seem to hold some validity. I felt that I should withdraw myself for a while until things resolved themselves.

Since the beginning of the investigation I've been reading and following conversation in the thread to see where it all leads. To the best of my knowledge I've been on Zentoshi Discord for sometime and true to their words they've done most things by the books. I really can't fault them in any way since it might be a genuine oversight.

I'm not paid shill. In fact this is like my 3rd comment since the start of the thread. Not really active in the thread. I'm a concerned participant in both telegram and discord.

Do have a nice day dear senior members. Plus I love all questions and concerns raised and cleared.

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November 04, 2019, 06:27:27 AM
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I’m sorry but no you absolutely are making a huge issue out of nothing and doing everything you can to undermine the project.
You did that yourself the moment you got sock-puppets to post here.

I never wanted to undermine this project, I pointed out several flaws because paid shills from a pumping service that you instructed to post here in order to generate fake buzz brought it to the attention of one user who bought it to my attention.



Red flag 1 and 2 are essentially the same thing, newbie accounts or inactive ones suddenly becoming active and posting here. They already said we made a big deal about the ANN thread launching, I even wrote an article about it for our Medium and shared it in all our socials to let everyone know so of course it will direct some traffic here as that was the intention to give visibility to this thread.
Your post on Medium was not the reason sock-puppets posted here. The OP claimed he did not know anything about therefore you being their social media and promotions manager were the one that used them only to see it spectacularly backfire. Blaming it on an article instead of owning does nothing except casts further doubt on this project.



https://link.medium.com/HpEsA6iXj1

As for actually posting here my 2 posts I made in this thread prior to today have been dealt with here as I got called out as a “professional shillers”

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198234.new#new
Yes I read both links you provided and it strengthens my view that the Medium article is being used as a convenient scapegoat.



Red Flag 3 being the T&C as said it will be dealt with but as it’s the weekend they just did a quick change until the proper fix can be put in place.
You repeating what I already stated.



So can you please explain what exactly further needs to be done here to address these 3 concerns of yours.
No.


I will give it a couple of days before maybe popping back here to see what is going on an what other users are posting.

Hello JollyGood,

Our T's and C's and Privacy Policy have been added to our website. These are living documents and may be revised at anytime. I hope moving forward we prove to you that we are here to stay, and further blockchain technology for the market as a whole! We have much planned that is unannounced which is very exciting developments that will assist the mainstream adoption of cryptocurrencies and bring more adopters to this space. We have to start somewhere as we are but a small startup at present, but have so much to offer to this market. Sorry for any and all hostilities from all parties involved. I hope we can start fresh. We should all be nicer going forward.

Cheers,
Zentoshi Team
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