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January 01, 2020, 06:59:21 PM
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Is not your car your property? And are you not a free man/woman in a free country? I think Government should pay us to get licensed and to have our vehicle licensed.

What do you think?

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Driving license is not ownership doc but eligibility to drive documents. When you are in control of a moving object and people around are subjected to possible injuries and fatalities , you need responsible driver on road and hence you need test and a doc to support that.
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January 01, 2020, 08:49:01 PM
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Is not your car your property? And are you not a free man/woman in a free country? I think Government should pay us to get licensed and to have our vehicle licensed.

What do you think?

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Driving license is not ownership doc but eligibility to drive documents. When you are in control of a moving object and people around are subjected to possible injuries and fatalities , you need responsible driver on road and hence you need test and a doc to support that.

Other people might not agree with you about the process. But the question was about government paying us, since they are the ones that are taking away our freedom by requiring the licenses. The 13th Amendment says no involuntary servitude. So, if a person volunteers to get licensing, okay. But if he doesn't, forcing it is involuntary servitude.

Look at Section 1 of the 13th Amendment:
Section 1.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

There is the answer about the process. Let people drive unfettered by a license until they have an accident wherein they are convicted of a crime. Then punish them by making them pay for their own license. If they have no reason to be punished, because they were not convicted of a crime, government must pay for any licensing government requires.

Remember. In law, the law is the law. You can't do what makes sense just because you feel it is the sensible thing to do. If you and others feel so strongly about something, get the Constitution changed... in this case in the 13th Amendment.

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January 01, 2020, 09:02:14 PM
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badecker.
you are so wrong.
you have no clue what the plain meaning of things are.
law is the plain meaning

you keep trying to stir the pot by making complicated crap meanders. you cant even quote stuff right. other people have pointed out your failings. you have many tims quoted stuff that dont even refer to the things you make out they are about

its time you try to do some research away from your freeman cult. and actually research. you know read something. check it. understand it, check it again and then maybe decide if its worth quoting.
you seem to be a person that just grabs a unresearched opinion of something you wish was true and run with it like its the truth

did you even bother googling 'plain meaning law' to counter your own waffle misunderstanding

and includes is different than include. the final s means plural, meaning items mentioned after it are multiple, not a singular item

just go research the law if you really want to try giving advice.
or simply realise that you have yet more to learn. and then decide are you willing to try learning more. or give up

But the plain law is not what is found in the Codes and Statutes, at least for the Federal Government.

Congress passes a Law. Then, the Law goes to Thompson's in Canada. There they convert the Law into a Code or Statute. Almost always the Code or Statute is shorter than the Law was. Since it is shorter (and different), it absolutely is not the Law.

But if someone accepts it as the Law, because he is too ignorant to know that it is not the Law, then he has accepted his guilt by accepting the Code or Statute as a Law that applies to him. A Code or Statute has nothing to do with him. He is supposed to obey the Law if it applies to him. But in most circumstances, he never sees or hears the Law, but is convicted of breaking a Code or Statute.

Even if he is presented with the actual Law, most Laws don't have his name written in them to obey them. They don't even have any language that shows that the Law pertains to a group of people in which he is included.

All you seem to want to do is to be a good little slave, so that government people can make more money off you.

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January 02, 2020, 03:31:57 AM
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canada doesnt even have a congress..
.. shows how little you know

also you might wanna do some more research on codes and statutes
you seem to be lacking knowledge of how they work and what the are

remember the 'la la la' stuff you karl lentz.. really research it. it will reveal something you are very ignorant of in this whole topic.
just try learning it, for once

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Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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January 02, 2020, 03:33:16 AM
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canada doesnt even have a congress..
.. shows how little you know

LOL! Thank you for this. I needed a little bit of a laugh.

You been drinking again? LOL!

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