[LIST]Open Merit Source Applications,waiting list.

[AverageGlabella]

There's scope for re allocating existing merits between sources. Many sources are struggling to get their sMerit stash depleted, whilst others, like micgooossens are always thriving for more merits.

My suggestion would be to remove those are not depleting their sources unless its minuscule amounts and get new sources which are eager to award others. The thing about giving certain members massive amounts of merit is there is no diversity in the way they reward. Its better to have 300 different active merit sources than 100 with big allocations.

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[El duderino_]

There's scope for re allocating existing merits between sources. Many sources are struggling to get their sMerit stash depleted, whilst others, like micgooossens are always thriving for more merits.

My suggestion would be to remove those are not depleting their sources unless its minuscule amounts and get new sources which are eager to award others. The thing about giving certain members massive amounts of merit is there is no diversity in the way they reward. Its better to have 300 different active merit sources than 100 with big allocations.

[1miau]

Same here, it's so sad. 



I'm scrolling through so many interesting submissions for the 10 year anniversary contest but can't merit them (and if I merit 1 or 2 submissions I feel guilty for being unfair to those other outstanding ones that I can't merit...).


Very good idea @iasenko to create a waiting list. This should help theymos to review it and have a detailed overview of pending applications. Maybe we can expect to get appointed until christmas. 

Many Merit Source applications are feeling like a transaction where the fee is set way too low. 

[Scheede]

Also some good source candidates !

20895 merit per 30 days between all of the merit sources looks to be a good amount of sMerit to distribute. More than enough to rank up 41 hero members or 83 sr members per month. Making it too easy for members to get merit would render the merit system ineffective at what it was brought in for.

Are those 20.895 the total of "new created" sMerit hand out to the merit-sources?

If so the 300 for the one active merit-source (qwk) responsible for the German community is close to nothing in comparison.

[DdmrDdmr]

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It’s overall, for the aggregate of all the 130 Merit Sources, although each one has a different assigned allowance, varying from something over a dozen (or so), to a couple that seem to have over 1K per 30 days (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsend to get a rough idea).

Although averages are a bit deceiving here due to the large variance, the average number of allocated sMerits would be 160,73.   

[fillippone]

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(see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsend to get a rough idea).

I take pride on this result:

Code:

134: fillippone

I have many MS behind me.
This is the result of a good merits income lately, and my constant effort on meriting good posts.
But of course is not substainable in the long run.

[Vispilio]

Same story with me,

the Turkish section as well as many global boards have become pretty active, and tens of fantastic msgs go largely unrecognized every day...:

[TheBeardedBaby]

^ all that means that the quality of the forum posts have increased. (or it's just because of the 10 anniversary art contests)

Before people (i mean MSs) needed to open a thread to look for good posters and comping that there are no posts to merit them, nowadays the sources complain that there is not enough source merit.
^^^Those are the facts

and here comes a solution >>>

Hello, I'd like to point a merit source application which doesn't appear in OP: it is sparg's and he applied for the Romanian local thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3030575.0.

Updated!

[GazetaBitcoin]

Hello, I'd like to point a merit source application which doesn't appear in OP: it is sparg's and he applied for the Romanian local thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3030575.0.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Weekly bump @theymos!

[AB de Royse777]

Feel free to drop me from the table in your OP. I have that I was asking for :-D

[suchmoon]

Eight new sources seem to have been added.

In addition to Royse777 above, also

Ratimov: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg53078048#msg53078048

[TheBeardedBaby]

Ok, updated the OP with those we know for sure are approved merit sources. For the rest I'll need a confirmation.

Merit source confirmed!
Thank you!

Noted. Congrats.

Another 2  confirmed
1miau  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158075.msg53079643#msg53079643
bitmover https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;msg=53079201

Congrats to them as well

[fillippone]

Merit source confirmed!
Thank you!

[TheBeardedBaby]

List updated, 6 new confirmed Merit sources, 7 more to go.
Please post or PM. When all are noted I'll lock this topic.

Congrats to all of you!!

[JayJuanGee]

List updated, 6 new confirmed Merit sources, 7 more to go.
Please post or PM. When all are noted I'll lock this topic.

Congrats to all of you!!

Would it be helpful to show both the application date and the approve date (if you know that information) for those members who were approved?  I'm thinking that it could provide some meaningful information for future merit source applicants to see that there is a decent amount of variation in how long applicants might have to wait before getting approval, and maybe even might inform future MS applicants regarding what kinds of things to do (or not do) while a MS application is pending.

By the way, didn't I see that you, iasenko, are not yet a merit source?  You should probably apply, since you have been very good at providing good information to the forum and also filtering through information in order to help others to discern the difference between good and bad posts, so might as well add yourself to the group of merit source applicants, if you have not already done so.

Second by the way:
It will be interesting to see if Coin-1 is able to identify which merit sources have been purged from such merit source status in his thread:   [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits.  I would imagine that he follows threads like this one for clues regarding which members have become merit sources.

[suchmoon]

Would it be helpful to show both the application date and the approve date (if you know that information) for those members who were approved?  I'm thinking that it could provide some meaningful information for future merit source applicants to see that there is a decent amount of variation in how long applicants might have to wait before getting approval, and maybe even might inform future MS applicants regarding what kinds of things to do (or not do) while a MS application is pending.

It seems that the applications are approved in batches when theymos has time to review them. Last big change was in January IIRC. Based on some wording in the recent e-mail to merit sorcerers we can probably expect another review in about six months or so.

[fillippone]

Would it be helpful to show both the application date and the approve date (if you know that information) for those members who were approved?  I'm thinking that it could provide some meaningful information for future merit source applicants to see that there is a decent amount of variation in how long applicants might have to wait before getting approval, and maybe even might inform future MS applicants regarding what kinds of things to do (or not do) while a MS application is pending.

It seems that the applications are approved in batches when theymos has time to review them. Last big change was in January IIRC. Based on some wording in the recent e-mail to merit sorcerers we can probably expect another review in about six months or so.

I read everywhere about many active and committed sources asking for more sMerits allowance, while many other sources were "dormant" and not giving merits away, of feeling that as a chore.
Probably Theymos wanted to fix that.
Wondering if there is a new "methodology" to determine new Merit Source allocation (some kind of bakward looking average), and consequently determine if a Merit Source is still a valid one (and hence if new are needed), or it was just a "reaction" to what apparently was an extemporaneous "imbalance".

[suchmoon]

Wondering if there is a new "methodology" to determine new Merit Source allocation (some kind of bakward looking average), and consequently determine if a Merit Source is still a valid one (and hence if new are needed), or it was just a "reaction" to what apparently was an extemporaneous "imbalance".

The PM had the word "automatically" in it, whatever that means. It could be an automatic scheduled process, or perhaps more likely it's an automatic adjustment that he can run manually once every few months. The adjustment seems to target a certain value, which appears to be 20k-22k total source merits. Inactive sources are removed, and the remaining ones get an adjustment based proportionally on how many sMerits they sent in the recent months.

The bottom line is - send all your sMerits out every month. That has always been the goal but now there is an added incentive (or disincentive if you're sick of sourcing).

[JayJuanGee]

Would it be helpful to show both the application date and the approve date (if you know that information) for those members who were approved?  I'm thinking that it could provide some meaningful information for future merit source applicants to see that there is a decent amount of variation in how long applicants might have to wait before getting approval, and maybe even might inform future MS applicants regarding what kinds of things to do (or not do) while a MS application is pending.

It seems that the applications are approved in batches when theymos has time to review them. Last big change was in January IIRC. Based on some wording in the recent e-mail to merit sorcerers we can probably expect another review in about six months or so.

I read everywhere about many active and committed sources asking for more sMerits allowance, while many other sources were "dormant" and not giving merits away, of feeling that as a chore.
Probably Theymos wanted to fix that.
Wondering if there is a new "methodology" to determine new Merit Source allocation (some kind of bakward looking average), and consequently determine if a Merit Source is still a valid one (and hence if new are needed), or it was just a "reaction" to what apparently was an extemporaneous "imbalance".

Frequently, theymos comes up with quasi-genius solutions, and surely no solution is perfect, and even this whole merit system could be criticized for being more proof of stake rather than proof of work, and other criticisms of centralizing too much trust into few individuals... hahahahaha

Anywhoo..... theymos's announcement from yesterday was likely a surprise for many members, but yeah, if they had not been giving out many merits for the past 6 months, and could NOT at least average the dishing out of a paltry 10 merits per month, they were removed as a merit source, and in that regard, theymos employed a largely objective algorithm to remove those who were not playing game with this merit system.

In that regard, actions speak louder than words, and even some members who had been assigned as merit sources might not have been so bothered by their assignment as a merit source as to ask for their removal, but their non-use ended up speaking for around 30 of them.

Of course, not every member is good at appreciating the contributions of other members by spending time to give merits, but that does not make them either a bad member or even a non-contributory member.  I won't name any names, but there are some members who are awesome contributors to the forum, but they might not be very good at giving merits and they also might get shit on a lot from other members, but the forum would not even be close to what it is today, with the many quality contributors and even quality incentives to post good content without some of the contributions of some members who kind of suck as a merit source. 

Of course, we are never really going to get rid of troll shills, but some members are very helpful at identifying, or flagging troll/shills in order that more innocent members might take those members with a grain of salt.  At the same time, there are some members who might be nice and innocent and even real good people who are just looking to be scammed.  For some reason they cannot help themselves, and there is ONLY so much that any forum can do in order to protect those kinds of members from theirselves. 

In other words, some members have to learn by getting scammed, and even some of those members might not ever learned and keep getting into scam after scam after scam.  It takes all kinds of peeps to make the world go round, and surely it would be boring if the world did not have a variety of intelligence, strategies and experiments, and surely the free markets would not function as well either if everyone had the same opinions about how to value assets and/or strategies in regards to profiting from the present/future value of such assets (whether we are referring to bitcoin, crypto assets or even non-crypto assets, and even the errors that people might make in assessing and acting on their own personal financial/psychological situation(s)).