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CYBER GUARANTY CORP THREAD

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November 28, 2019, 10:51:49 PM
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How about urhoc?

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 Grin Grin Grin  DecentralizeEconomics need fresh money for a new project!

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maybe DE will come here after 100 fage Wink
you where so right about that 100 page's

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December 18, 2019, 10:14:59 AM
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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

The reason for my absence is that I was working on getting servers setup in the background and consulting with other regarding the future of Cyber Guaranty.

Unfortunately, I have some disappointing news.  No one is more disappointed than myself.  Believe me when I tell you that.  As per some wise advice and in-depth research, due to the laws in the United States regarding banking, insurance, and securities, I am not going to move forward with the Cyber Guaranty project.  Even though Cyber Guaranty was a great idea and had the potential to revolutionize the cryptosphere, the nature of the ambiguity of securities and banking law and the fact that I would have been forced to get insurance licenses in most states, I am ceasing this project.  This is truly a regretful outcome.

The good news is that even though I had interest expressed to me about funding, not a single satoshi was collected.  I'm glad that it was the case, because it saves disappointment, and I do not have to go through the process of refunding money.  I had ambitious plans for Cyber Guaranty even though you might not know the full aspect of the project, let me assure you that the idea was sound and would have opened up a secured lending market for cryptocurrency and helped expand the ecosystem.

It is very regretful that the laws in the US concerning such matters are open to interpretation by the SEC.  The SEC has the power to judge on a case-by-case basis, which means that there is no consistency with their verdicts.  In my opinion, this opens up the judgment process to abuse and creates an unsteady groundwork for projects to develop.  This is of course why many projects have chosen to exclude US participants.  The case is now that even a token pre-sale that would otherwise be considered NOT a security has now been ruled by the SEC to be a security.  Many subpoenas have been set out to various companies.  I can't in good faith go ahead with this project when I believe it would expose us all to potential legal problems.  I, personally, do not agree with the law as it stands, but I am going to abide by it for the benefit of everyone who would be potentially involved.  I considered proceeding without a token sale, but I still would have been subjected to laws which raised the bar of entry to an unfeasible level.

This is a loss not only to myself, but to potential partners, participants, and the US.  These onerous and subjective laws and their enforcement in my opinion do NOT protect the citizenry or foster free markets.  They inhibit growth, stifle innovation, hurt productivity, and reduce opportunities for all.  They DO though certainly aid in the entrenchment of the status quo and big business.  When big business is large enough to pass laws that effectively create monopolies, duopolies, tripolies, etc, in certain industries, it is not to the benefit of "the government of the people".  This is why the US is being passed up by other countries especially in Asia and quickly loosing our edge.  I would argue that the United States has already lost it and is in fast decline.  I certainly do not like to see this occur, and I fear the time which is coming in the future when it will be very obvious to all.  Of course, my main motivation in wanting to start Cyber Guaranty was to make money by producing a service that was beneficial to my customers (I am a capitalist), but another part of my motivation was to help this country, the United States, maintain its position in global hegemony.  I am aware that the United States does a lot of things which most do not agree with.  I am also aware that a lot of other countries are a lot worse.  To those of you reading this who are not in the United States, most of us are good, kind, and friendly people.  We wish others no harm.  That very well might be hard to believe, but you have to understand that the reality of the situation is that this country is not governed by its citizenry.  It is controlled through the two-party system of the oligarchy (aka Big Business).  This is what is called State Capitalism.  If you remember any of my previous posts, you will remember my mantra that there is NO difference between STATE CAPITALISM and STATE SOCIALISM.  They are the two sides of the same token, and that token is called Communism.  Communism is something that I will always be opposed to because it is the furthest thing from the "revolution of the proletariat" as espoused by the communists.  It is a system which entrenches those in power and garners upon them favors, wealth, and opportunity not available to all.  It is the antithesis of Americanism and will led to the downfall of this country.  People routinely confuse the meaning of "equality" in America.  Most people today say that "equality" as referred to in the Constitution by the founding fathers meant that everyone should be "equal".  This is of course completely absurd to most intelligent minded individuals as it is clearly the case that NOTHING in nature is equal.  In fact, what they meant was that everyone should be afforded EQUAL OPPORTUNITY and EQUAL JUSTICE under the law.  This is where and how the communist agenda took hold in the United States, and it has been allowed to fester and grow for many years.  Do you honestly believe that the Politburo and the CCP think that they are "equal" to the masses they rule over?  No, of course they don't.  They treat them as slaves and routinely subjugate them at their whim.

Some might say that what I am arguing for is lawlessness.  A repeal of laws that inhibit fraudsters and crooks.  This is not the case.  I argue for equal opportunity for all.  I am fine with going after frauds and crooks, but only after they have committed such crimes.  It is not wise to apply a blanket ban on everyone just because there are a few bad apples.  Will some innocents get swindled?  Yes, of course they will, but people get swindled now with all the rules and regulations by very large, institutionalized corporations.  Looking back at the 2008 crisis, what happened with AIG, the CDO and CDS markets, mortgage insurers like AMBAC, etc.  Many, many people lost money.  There were a lot of swindlers with official licenses to conduct business.  It prevented nothing.  Additionally, there are a lot of other people operating in this country, mainly Chicoms, who have absolutely no regard for US law, and they seem to operate with impunity.  US citizens cannot compete with individuals who do not regard the law with respect and are able to flee back to China if questions start arising.  There is not a level playing field in the marketplace, and who it is hurting most are those who are most loyal to you.  The Chinese already control over 60% of bitcoin.  The CCP controls many cryptocurrencies behind the scenes.  It is a very sad state of affairs which will not turn out well for anyone.

I hope against hope that the laws in this country will change to allow those with the will and ability to make a difference do so.  I fear that this will not be the case.  I ask for those in positions of power in the justice system and enforcement agencies to consider these thoughts.  Cyber Guaranty very well might not have succeeded, but at least give us the chance to attempt to try.  We are your neighbors and fellow citizens, and at the end of the day, we are on your side.  Not everyone is a scammer or fraud, and please remember, that what made this country great was that it was the land of "equal opportunity" for all.

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I am still debating and attempting to determine the best way to proceed with YourChain.  I wanted to create something unique and novel, not just another cryptocurrency.  I thought Cyber Guaranty and Cyber Bills would be a way to do so.  Obviously, that is not going to happen now.  I am going to think about YourChain for a while and try to come up with something that will be in compliance with US law.  Note: All the URHOC tokens were given away for free and NO MONEY was raised with YOURChain.  I have no interest in raising money with YourChain, and nobody should expect any profits from it.  Think of it as an experiment.  Maybe together we can create a cryptocurrency or something that allows for "equal opportunity".

"Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties." - Areopagitica
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December 18, 2019, 11:57:08 PM
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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

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I am still debating and attempting to determine the best way to proceed with YourChain.  I wanted to create something unique and novel, not just another cryptocurrency.  I thought Cyber Guaranty and Cyber Bills would be a way to do so.  Obviously, that is not going to happen now.  I am going to think about YourChain for a while and try to come up with something that will be in compliance with US law.  Note: All the URHOC tokens were given away for free and NO MONEY was raised with YOURChain.  I have no interest in raising money with YourChain, and nobody should expect any profits from it.  Think of it as an experiment.  Maybe together we can create a cryptocurrency or something that allows for "equal opportunity".
Yes, please continue this project, correct you give free urhoc to eveyone but i a'm buying ftom the market, so i lose money on urhoc.

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I am still debating and attempting to determine the best way to proceed with YourChain.  I wanted to create something unique and novel, not just another cryptocurrency.  I thought Cyber Guaranty and Cyber Bills would be a way to do so.  Obviously, that is not going to happen now.  I am going to think about YourChain for a while and try to come up with something that will be in compliance with US law.  Note: All the URHOC tokens were given away for free and NO MONEY was raised with YOURChain.  I have no interest in raising money with YourChain, and nobody should expect any profits from it.  Think of it as an experiment.  Maybe together we can create a cryptocurrency or something that allows for "equal opportunity".
Yes, please continue this project, correct you give free urhoc to eveyone but i a'm buying ftom the market, so i lose money on urhoc.


Unfortunately not only you, there are other people who bought in the exchange. The dev wrote two years on this thread just shitty post  and created two shit websites in almost 3 years and the last thread on bitcointalk is asking for money! These kinds of people are ridiculous

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December 19, 2019, 04:34:52 AM
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I am still debating and attempting to determine the best way to proceed with YourChain.  I wanted to create something unique and novel, not just another cryptocurrency.  I thought Cyber Guaranty and Cyber Bills would be a way to do so.  Obviously, that is not going to happen now.  I am going to think about YourChain for a while and try to come up with something that will be in compliance with US law.  Note: All the URHOC tokens were given away for free and NO MONEY was raised with YOURChain.  I have no interest in raising money with YourChain, and nobody should expect any profits from it.  Think of it as an experiment.  Maybe together we can create a cryptocurrency or something that allows for "equal opportunity".
Yes, please continue this project, correct you give free urhoc to eveyone but i a'm buying ftom the market, so i lose money on urhoc.

I have no intention of abandoning the YourChain project.  We will do something.  I have thought of some other good ideas since last night.

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I am still debating and attempting to determine the best way to proceed with YourChain.  I wanted to create something unique and novel, not just another cryptocurrency.  I thought Cyber Guaranty and Cyber Bills would be a way to do so.  Obviously, that is not going to happen now.  I am going to think about YourChain for a while and try to come up with something that will be in compliance with US law.  Note: All the URHOC tokens were given away for free and NO MONEY was raised with YOURChain.  I have no interest in raising money with YourChain, and nobody should expect any profits from it.  Think of it as an experiment.  Maybe together we can create a cryptocurrency or something that allows for "equal opportunity".
Yes, please continue this project, correct you give free urhoc to eveyone but i a'm buying ftom the market, so i lose money on urhoc.


Unfortunately not only you, there are other people who bought in the exchange. The dev wrote two years on this thread just shitty post  and created two shit websites in almost 3 years and the last thread on bitcointalk is asking for money! These kinds of people are ridiculous

I considered doing Cyber Guaranty without the token sale.  Unfortunately, the legal obstacles were too great, and frankly, it would have been impossible to create what I wanted under the legal framework.  YourChain was going to be merged with Cyber Guaranty, but now I am simply going to continue with developing YourChain as a decentralized currency with a few twists.

They thought YourChain was a joke... They won't be laughing soon.

"Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties." - Areopagitica
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I considered doing Cyber Guaranty without the token sale.  Unfortunately, the legal obstacles were too great, and frankly, it would have been impossible to create what I wanted under the legal framework.  YourChain was going to be merged with Cyber Guaranty, but now I am simply going to continue with developing YourChain as a decentralized currency with a few twists.

They thought YourChain was a joke... They won't be laughing soon.

For private sale no need KYC... You can do only private sale - without ICO... You can make PRIVATE COIN... After - swap YourChain token...

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Twas the Night Before YOURChain - 2 Years Later

Twas the night before YOURChain, two years it has been
No progress was seen, not one git commit!
The URHOCs were stored in their wallets with care,
In hopes that DE would soon get off his ass and produce some code besides the usual fanfare.

The crypto masses were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of Yachts and Lambos all danced in their heads.
And Greg in his Subaru with his "coexist" sticker, and I in my newly washed Benz,
Had started a fight to which there was no end.

When out in the cryptosphere there arose such a centralized clatter,
I sprang to Bitcointalk to see what was the matter.
Away to the block explorers I flew like a flash,
Looked at the crypto stats even for Dash!

The data displayed on my screen that night,
Snuffed the hope in my eye that had shown like a light.
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But those damn Chicom bastards with 67%+ hashrate!

With their dirty "equality" mantras, so disingenuous and slick,
I knew in a moment it must be the State Capitalists who were at it again!
Worse even than fiat, their coursers they came,
They all whined, and shouted, and called them by name!

"Now Bitcoin! Now Litecoin! now, Ether and Ripple!
On, NXT! On, NEM! On, all Larimer scams!
To the depths of their pockets! To the last of their coins!
Now centralize away! Steal away! Take away ALL!

As roaches to flith all the commies did scurry,
When they need more control, they inflitrate again without blinking an eye!
So away with our fortunes and freedoms, the commies they flew,
With promises to all that never came true.

And then with a sigh, I admitted the truth...
Even in crypto the centralizers had won without much of a fight.
Bitcoin was owned by the Chicom rat bastards,
And in the US all our hands had been tied.

We went without a whimper, barely a cry...
Because we were conned with the notions of fortunes made overnight.
For that is the trick of those slick commie bastards,
Promises, and promises that never do materialize.

I said a small prayer and hoped for an answer,
When suddenly, what to my amazement appeared...
But a vision of BCNext himself!
And Satoshi and Hal Finney close in the rear!

Their eyes how they glistened from the tears pouring out!
Their moans how they wailed that crypto was dead!
The signs of disappointment and betrayal etched in their faces,
Showed that the original intent was gone without any traces!

A small little note they held tight in their hands,
It was only a phrase, so simple and true.
It started it all, but so few had a clue,
"The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks"

Everything anyone could possibly wonder as to the reason for crypto he stated himself.
I let out a laugh which was an exasperated cry for I knew this was lost on almost all but myself.
A tear in his eye and a small, little grin,
He confirmed it all without saying nary a word.

I pledged to them all that I would never give up.
And to the final breath, we will struggle for the cause.
YOURChain was special, for it was the very last,
That refused to submit, and centralize the blockchain.

They started to fade away that cold winter night, just like their notions did from crypto.
But before they left, I heard them cry out and exclaim,
"Don't be mistaken or misled. We did what we did not for monetary gain. But simply for freedom. Remember this all and have a good-night!"
I smiled and said, "Don't worry my friends.  Your cause is not lost.  The commies will pay for everything that they've done.  They won't get away with this terrible crime.  YOURChain will give them a hell of a fight!"

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December 25, 2019, 11:09:35 AM
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I considered doing Cyber Guaranty without the token sale.  Unfortunately, the legal obstacles were too great, and frankly, it would have been impossible to create what I wanted under the legal framework.  YourChain was going to be merged with Cyber Guaranty, but now I am simply going to continue with developing YourChain as a decentralized currency with a few twists.

They thought YourChain was a joke... They won't be laughing soon.

For private sale no need KYC... You can do only private sale - without ICO... You can make PRIVATE COIN... After - swap YourChain token...

Thank you for the suggestion, but we do not need to raise funds and are not going to.  We are going to continue on with our original mission... Creating a truly decentralized cryptocurrency that is controlled and secured by the users.

YOURChain will give the economy back to the people and will re-establish them as their own sovereigns over their own destiny.  An economy is an expression of a political ideology.  Do not mistake us as just another cryptocurrency.  We are a movement.

"Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties." - Areopagitica
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