Waves Investors Beware!Sasha Ivanov keeps peoples funds

[bittick]

My index and cryptofund is also not swapped yet. They say I am not a long time holder!

I dont understand why they swap their asset only from old users? In my mind it should be 100% swapped and burned

It's an obvious trick to manipulate information and pretend that they do not cheat.
It depends on them who they will call the long time holder. They can say that it is a user who holds coins for 6 months or 6 years. Nobody can do anything with that, and they will be able to say that they paid out to everyone who met the conditions. Of course, they'll keep most of the money and the case will slowly be forgotten over time.

The thing is that they didn't do the swap, not even for "old holders" whatever that means.

They are stealing peoples money!!!

The theft started in 2013 when Sasha made the first COINOMAT ICO, then came the second COINOMAT 1 ICO.

Then came the promise to have a COINOMAT asset on Waves.

And now its: "Thank you, the swap was successful"

I never would have thought, that somebody as famous as Sasha Ivanov could make a scam,

but voila, he did it with CRYPTOFUND too

and with NEXT too

and with INDEX too

That means if he is a real scammer right now. I just saw sasha had made a tweet back in march about the coinomat asset swap. I believe that kind of a trick that has already used to make the investor's of scam asset feel comfort from being so loudly spread the word of scam to the sasha and investor would shut up for that.

This kind of trick has already used by so many scam icos and developers. That is not something new in the crypto.

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[Oceat]

My index and cryptofund is also not swapped yet. They say I am not a long time holder!

I dont understand why they swap their asset only from old users? In my mind it should be 100% swapped and burned

It's an obvious trick to manipulate information and pretend that they do not cheat.
It depends on them who they will call the long time holder. They can say that it is a user who holds coins for 6 months or 6 years. Nobody can do anything with that, and they will be able to say that they paid out to everyone who met the conditions. Of course, they'll keep most of the money and the case will slowly be forgotten over time.

The thing is that they didn't do the swap, not even for "old holders" whatever that means.

They are stealing peoples money!!!

The theft started in 2013 when Sasha made the first COINOMAT ICO, then came the second COINOMAT 1 ICO.

Then came the promise to have a COINOMAT asset on Waves.

And now its: "Thank you, the swap was successful"

I never would have thought, that somebody as famous as Sasha Ivanov could make a scam,

but voila, he did it with CRYPTOFUND too

and with NEXT too

and with INDEX too

That means if he is a real scammer right now. I just saw sasha had made a tweet back in march about the coinomat asset swap. I believe that kind of a trick that has already used to make the investor's of scam asset feel comfort from being so loudly spread the word of scam to the sasha and investor would shut up for that.

This kind of trick has already used by so many scam icos and developers. That is not something new in the crypto.

They really did it a lot of time so don't expect that when they would say something again that would patch your broken expectations to not feel like being scammed. Those strategy for scamming has been done a million times by most bounty managers/developers.

[keyscore44]

My index and cryptofund is also not swapped yet. They say I am not a long time holder!

I dont understand why they swap their asset only from old users? In my mind it should be 100% swapped and burned

It's an obvious trick to manipulate information and pretend that they do not cheat.
It depends on them who they will call the long time holder. They can say that it is a user who holds coins for 6 months or 6 years. Nobody can do anything with that, and they will be able to say that they paid out to everyone who met the conditions. Of course, they'll keep most of the money and the case will slowly be forgotten over time.

The thing is that they didn't do the swap, not even for "old holders" whatever that means.

They are stealing peoples money!!!

The theft started in 2013 when Sasha made the first COINOMAT ICO, then came the second COINOMAT 1 ICO.

Then came the promise to have a COINOMAT asset on Waves.

And now its: "Thank you, the swap was successful"

I never would have thought, that somebody as famous as Sasha Ivanov could make a scam,

but voila, he did it with CRYPTOFUND too

and with NEXT too

and with INDEX too

That means if he is a real scammer right now. I just saw sasha had made a tweet back in march about the coinomat asset swap. I believe that kind of a trick that has already used to make the investor's of scam asset feel comfort from being so loudly spread the word of scam to the sasha and investor would shut up for that.

This kind of trick has already used by so many scam icos and developers. That is not something new in the crypto.

They really did it a lot of time so don't expect that when they would say something again that would patch your broken expectations to not feel like being scammed. Those strategy for scamming has been done a million times by most bounty managers/developers.

Unfortunately, but money often blinds people and makes them lose their mind.
I still believe that this is just a misunderstanding and in a moment Sasha will publish a Tweet in the style of April Fools.
I think he should be aware of the consequences that may have ...

[Rubinchih]

I think this is the reason why the waves began to be abandoned by the community, making it unable to compete with competitors, and even out of the top rankings.

I don’t understand what is happening with the Waves today. Why did they fall so much in price? I bought them as an investor for another 0,00050 satoshi. Now I don’t even know if I can return my money.

Do you know what?

Waves staff and Sasha Ivanov call his own investors "dirty speculators".As an investment Waves is cancer.

I did not think that could cynically insult investors. On people like us, this project is based. Now I would not invest in Waves, but it’s too late.

[josebcn]

I think this is the reason why the waves began to be abandoned by the community, making it unable to compete with competitors, and even out of the top rankings.

I don’t understand what is happening with the Waves today. Why did they fall so much in price? I bought them as an investor for another 0,00050 satoshi. Now I don’t even know if I can return my money.

Do you know what?

Waves staff and Sasha Ivanov call his own investors "dirty speculators".As an investment Waves is cancer.

I did not think that could cynically insult investors. On people like us, this project is based. Now I would not invest in Waves, but it’s too late.

Sorry for you.Take care.

[josebcn]

https://steemit.com/waves/@tecem/the-n-e-xt-chapter-in-the-nxt-asset-swap-to-wavesplatform

[estenity]

https://steemit.com/waves/@tecem/the-n-e-xt-chapter-in-the-nxt-asset-swap-to-wavesplatform

thank you for enlightment.

[TomThumb]

Lots of questions about  $waves price. If I were a little younger I'd respond along the lines "f**k off, we have the best tech, price doesn't matter,  you dirty speculators". But I'm not young There IS a disconnect between $Waves price and tech. You are to decide what it means
~A. Ivanov~

Wow, what a piece of garbage! Sasha hyped Waves a while back, sending the price to $4 - he was publicly rebuked in the crypto media for that behaviour. "GREAT NEWS TOMORROW, GUYS" (or words to that effect), and the price skyrocketed upwards. "MORE GREAT NEWS!", etc. He's happy to financially ruin others who buy - at a higher price - junk that will come crashing down.

You can tell he's a rich bastard cut off from reality - some of these "dirty speculators" are relatively impoverished people desperate for something in life - they can't afford to hodl shit!

"coincheckup" gives Waves a management team strength of 8% - rather generous, I think.

Sasha is just plain wrong to think that having good technology leads to success in the long term. He clearly knows nothing about Gary Kildall, who wrote quality operating systems, and dominated the personal computer operating system market in the early days. So, how did Bill Gates - a man who has NEVER WRITTEN AN OS IN HIS LIFE (or any program worthy of note) - end up with the PC desktop monopoly and so much money?  The full story is in the paperback edition of "They Made America" by Harold Evans. Gates also spread lies about Kildall to make him look bad. Gates' philanthropy is not what it seems, either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdj8gh9GPc4 - unlike you, Sasha, Gary Kildall treated people decently.

Waves is heading towards oblivion. It can have the best tech there is, but if no one knows about it, if no one uses it, it's going nowhere - as is its price & development budget! - while its inferior competitors take over.

Why did you do an ICO, Sasha, if you hate "dirty speculators" so much - THEY MADE YOU FILTHY RICH FOR DOING NOTHING, you two-faced hypocritical bastard!  

[slap]

Have a burning question you wanted to ask Sasha? Now’s your chance!

This Thursday Nov 28 we’re hosting a live-streamed AMA with Sasha Ivanov to discuss where Waves stands and where we’re heading in 2020.

Stay tuned for a link to the AMA’s stream!

[slap]

Any burning questions, guys? LoL, you will get banned, I guess.

[TomThumb]

Sasha, a megalomaniac and narcissist! Who needs to be a "dirty speculator" when you've just carried out a crypto-heist and stolen hundreds of millions of dollars from those you despise!

[NathanJB]

I believe Sasha Ivanov has an account here. I forgot the username of his account on this forum but I am sure he has. I don't know if the man is still active though. But if he is, he should just give a little statement here to clarify everything once and for all, in any case this is not good for the image and reputation of the man and his Waves project. It will make Waves dirty if this will be left unattended. I hope this will be addressed sooner or later.

[boomboom]

I believe Sasha Ivanov has an account here. I forgot the username of his account on this forum but I am sure he has. I don't know if the man is still active though. But if he is, he should just give a little statement here to clarify everything once and for all, in any case this is not good for the image and reputation of the man and his Waves project. It will make Waves dirty if this will be left unattended. I hope this will be addressed sooner or later.

Have a burning question you wanted to ask Sasha? Now’s your chance!

This Thursday Nov 28 we’re hosting a live-streamed AMA with Sasha Ivanov to discuss where Waves stands and where we’re heading in 2020.

Stay tuned for a link to the AMA’s stream!

All Coinomat victims should ask Sasha about the asset swap at his AMA

[boltz]

I bet he won't answer anything from questions coming from real investors and they will pick questions from their own members like they always do. I started to hate this person and its projects as we can clearly see he has almost 0 ideas of how to run a project and making it a success ...remember 2016 ? when he promises a lot of features and being an ETH competitor ...now look at waves how it became a joke and investors are gone 1 by 1.

I do hope he will provide some real answers regarding NXT swap, buying back project , management leaders and how they ruined the project because so far its kinda look like a dead project.

[crypto_trader#43xzEXrP]

SCAM! I lost 2 BTC in this shit-coin, and they can not turn it back within 1 year.
Only losses, after dumps and sell their premine-instamine.

After all official coinomat's WUSD and WEUR tokens was been scammed,
and I lost my last liquid asset - 7k WUSD ($7000).
They cann't pay this back within 3 months, after SCAM.

180 peoples in the command cann't turn back $18k (2 BTC) within 1 year. Fucking bums!

SCAM! SCAM! SCAM!

[judaspriest]

if Waves is a scam, why is their community so strong? Their Fud channel has been deleted, I don't know this truth, but in my opinion Waves is indeed very potential

[josebcn]

if Waves is a scam, why is their community so strong? Their Fud channel has been deleted, I don't know this truth, but in my opinion Waves is indeed very potential

They are pro scammers, ask a monkey which coin to invest into and it sure will be safer than investing in waveScam.

[Spaffin]

I believe that Ivanov needs to do a lot of work to advance the Waves to a more worthy place in the cryptocurrency market. Today, the main advantages of the wave are its very high transaction speed, but in my opinion, security is very weak. In addition, trading volumes on exchanges still look very attractive, but it is worth noting that new projects have become very little interested in Waves and in the interest rating, Waves have dropped below 40th place.
but, frankly, this whole platform looks very dysfunctional and it seems to me that it will be very difficult to attract the interest of other companies and investors.

[crypto_trader#43xzEXrP]

if Waves is a scam, why is their community so strong?

Maybe, just because the theft of money from traders,
is worth the time, which has been spent,
for development of this SCAM?

In fact, apart from moderations, you really will not see a strong community there.
These homeless people are not able to pay back $7k in three months,
and 2 BTC in a year - they can only steal the traders money,
by using their dirty manipulations,
then they can just keep hold it, or lost it, but not turn it back!
This money back is very difficult for them, if this money back is possible in principle. But for deposits - no problems!

And while a normal exchanges allow the automatic withdrawals,
and exchsnge, without any problems, and for all traders,
they just prefer to close trading (here, the tickers cUSD and cEUR - this is WUSD, and WEUR, because the same AssetID's)
for official WavesPlatform fiat-associated assets - WUSD and WEUR,
which was been liquid from 2016 year,
and do this closing, without any swaps,
moreover - after dump the price of this,
and just sit with our money - within 3 months,
and moreover - regularly do the moderations of all problems about this assets!

SCAM! SCAM! SCAM!
Let them, to do mining 100 clear bitcoins, for me.

[Lordhermes]

Because that way they will earn, simple.
If you just discard some swapps, you dont have to give away money.
Just business, made personal.

Most of the managers are practicing lies than nothing good for investors, this process of swapping had cause misunderstanding, misinterpretation between investors and traders meanwhile the teams keeps lying and frustrating investors. That's bad.