a society question about prison time

[franky1]

firstly you are the naive one by saying the daft 'fictional person' freeman nonsense
you love them buzzwords and phrases, your still not ready to look passed the freeman concept and to look at the reality of what goes on

you really need to delete the bookmarks referencing freeman stuff and actually look at real stuff

'fictional person' (facepalm)
you are really stuck in a decades old myth

...
so here is the reality check
the highway is not your property and the court is not your barn. you have to play by their rules and procedures

police officer follows policies and rules and has the responsibility to make sure that others do not break certain rules. this includes the highway code. meaning you can drive however you like on your own private land. but if your on public property you have to follow the highway code.. and if your on someone elses property you have to follow their rules.

trying to pretend your a fiction and how you the blood being are not the same blood being witenessed driving on a highway without a licence. where the witness is the police officer who identifies you..
you will not get away with it by playing the 'fictional person' debate. instead the case will be rescheduled for another date if you kept up the disruption to the court process.

pretending courts rues policies and procedures dont apply to you is foolish in court.

some things that can happen is this
by you denying that the defendant is in the court. is the same as just not turning up. thus the court could get a warrant for your arrest or just put the case in the governments favour as your acknowledging you as the accussed did not turn up to defend it, thus there is no defense.. meaning prosecution instant win
by you denying being the accused. but witnesses identify you. you could be locked up for messing with the court and maybe even put on a psych hold and assessed for mental competance.

you have no clue what really happens in a court or the real court procedure or why things are done a certain way.
EG going to a hearing and doing the freeman dance demanding a jury..
sorry a jury is at trials which is a separate event AFTER a hearing. which are for times where there is doubt and the evidence needs to be brought in and where the accused pleads not guilty. again a hearing and a trial happen at separate times

your freeman strategies you read have been done by people that have not even used them where it has actually truly worked. even karl lentz la la la la'd over stuff to hide what really happened.

anyways back to the point


imagine you had a family farm. the whole family owned it in equal shares
no one could decide what to do without majority vote for a certain plan.
but each day someone who didnt want to be part of the family and was treated as a stranger just drove into your farm at top speed and wheelspinned and drove out.
then the kept doing it 5 times a day, every day for a year
what would be the punishment
knowing there is a risk of an animal or family member getting hit someday, or even damage to the land

in this scenario the person was not wanted on your property. what would the punishment be

go on. admit it. when you want to sue them for tresspass.. doesnt it then counter your 'no harm no damage' freeman stance?
are you going to continue with the murder is a victimless act because the victim cant accuse anyone so there is no crime
are you going to continue with stalking and entering peoples home is a victimless act so there is no crime
are you going to continue with speed whilst driving without licence and insurance and say there is no crime

or are you going to wake up that people have to take responsibility and follows the laws/acts/statutes.. otherwise the acts become empty of power. including the acts that say right to bar arms, which would suddenly become meaningless in your world

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[BADecker]

^^^ You're just upset because you didn't really know what you were doing when you did it.

The laws better change to what the people want, or a lot of lawmaker-heads will roll, just like is going to happen as the Trump impeachment jokers start to back down.


In Virginia, and elsewhere, gun supporters prepare to defy new laws

They were here to demand that the Board of Supervisors declare Amelia County a "Second Amendment sanctuary" where officials will refuse to enforce any new restrictions on gun ownership.

A resistance movement is boiling up in Virginia, where Democrats rode a platform on gun control to historic victories in state elections earlier this month. The uprising is fueled by a deep cultural gulf between rural red areas that had long wielded power in Virginia and the urban and suburban communities that now dominate. Guns are the focus. Behind that, there is a sense that a way of life is being cast aside.

In the past two weeks, county governments from the central Piedmont to the Appalachian Southwest — Charlotte, Campbell, Carroll, Appomattox, Patrick, Dinwiddie, Pittsylvania, Lee and Giles — have approved resolutions that defy Richmond to come take their guns.

[franky1]

badecker you dont know
you just quote something and then pretend its your personal experience

i never followed the freeman crap. but i done research on many sides of what different people thought about different laws
and so that involved looking into freeman crap

the issue you have is to just read something and believe it. rather than research it

by the way.
you have trouble getting passed the concept that there is more than just 'no harm no damage no loss' because you cant grasp the concept of tresspass. and so i have not yet mentioned the next bombshell that would double spark and blow your mind. contract law
but im trying to give you baby steps to help you escape the freeman hole you dug yourself into before going into the bigger stuff..

you really need to accept that your freeman stuff has many flaws and doesnt work.. as your favourite freeman guy 'la la la's himself out of explaining

i still laugh that you think you can go to a fed court and announce that your a fiction and not the accused and pretend the accuser isnt present and how you dont recognise their rules and want the court to only follow your law, whether it freeman youtube videos or sharia law.. sorry that just aint how things work

by the way. as for law changing
citizens dont write laws. they elect a representative and hope that representative shares the electorates wishes and has the sway to get laws changed. problem is the election itself is not a guarantee that the 'promises' candidates make will flourish
after all.. trump still wants a wall.. and years later it aint happened
after all trump wanted to buy greenland.. and that aint ever gonna happen

and as for gun control.
in a couple years another senator could be elected and repeal the virginia changes and make gun control stricter

[BADecker]

badecker you dont know
you just quote something and then pretend its your personal experience

i never followed the freeman crap. but i done research on many sides of what different people thought about different laws
and so that involved looking into freeman crap

the issue you have is to just read something and believe it. rather than research it

by the way.
you have trouble getting passed the concept that there is more than just 'no harm no damage no loss' because you cant grasp the concept of tresspass. and so i have not yet mentioned the next bombshell that would double spark and blow your mind. contract law
but im trying to give you baby steps to help you escape the freeman hole you dug yourself into before going into the bigger stuff..

you really need to accept that your freeman stuff has many flaws and doesnt work.. as your favourite freeman guy 'la la la's himself out of explaining

i still laugh that you think you can go to a fed court and announce that your a fiction and not the accused and pretend the accuser isnt present and how you dont recognise their rules and want the court to only follow your law, whether it freeman youtube videos or sharia law.. sorry that just aint how things work

by the way. as for law changing
citizens dont write laws. they elect a representative and hope that representative shares the electorates wishes and has the sway to get laws changed. problem is the election itself is not a guarantee that the 'promises' candidates make will flourish
after all.. trump still wants a wall.. and years later it aint happened
after all trump wanted to buy greenland.. and that aint ever gonna happen

and as for gun control.
in a couple years another senator could be elected and repeal the virginia changes and make gun control stricter

Guns are private property. As property, they'd have to throw out all the foundational governmental documents to take private property away. Of course, then it wouldn't be legal.