[POLL] WILL TRUMP BE ELECTED TO A SECOND TERM?

[eddie13]

More than 80% think he will be elected to a second term at this point. 18 to 4. A higher % than I was expecting.

EH I mean we do have to remember that the people taking this poll are mostly going to be libertarians. And while Trump isn't a libertarian by any means, he is the closest when you're comparing with Dems and other members of the GOP.

He's like -- the best of the many evils in the eyes of many libertarians / people that like less regulation, smaller gov, etc.

Yeah that..
Gotta think longterm, past the current fads.. Preserve the constitution as much as possible and maintain a constitutional SCOTUS..
Pretty important stuff..

Its easy to feel like a winner when you don't put down any stakes eh?

I'll take a 0.1BTC 1:1 trump wins 2020..

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[OgNasty]

I'll take a 0.1BTC 1:1 trump wins 2020..

I’m sure there will be some action when we get the final candidates.

[iluvbitcoins]

More than 80% think he will be elected to a second term at this point. 18 to 4. A higher % than I was expecting.

EH I mean we do have to remember that the people taking this poll are mostly going to be libertarians. And while Trump isn't a libertarian by any means, he is the closest when you're comparing with Dems and other members of the GOP.

He's like -- the best of the many evils in the eyes of many libertarians / people that like less regulation, smaller gov, etc.

Yeah that..
Gotta think longterm, past the current fads.. Preserve the constitution as much as possible and maintain a constitutional SCOTUS..
Pretty important stuff..

Its easy to feel like a winner when you don't put down any stakes eh?

I'll take a 0.1BTC 1:1 trump wins 2020..

Here you go

https://www.betmoose.com/bet/will-donald-trump-be-elected-president-in-2020-4401#bets-1

[OgNasty]

Getting a little closer.

YES   - 24 (70.6%)
NO   - 10 (29.4%)

[star7dust]

I don't think so to be honest... Everybody seems to hate on him. It would be weird if he won again. And very, very suspicious 
But I agree that there are no candidates that could seem as strong as him. We'll see. Gladly I'm not American haha 

[mindrust]

Depends on who will be his opponent. As far as see, there isn't anyone who can win against Trump. This may change later but it is unlikely. Trump is not going to lose unless something very unordinary happens.

These all impeaching stuff is also adding more power to Trump. A smart guy would wait for him to make mistakes, not provoke him.

[Juggy777]

Getting a little closer.

YES   - 24 (70.6%)
NO   - 10 (29.4%)

@OgNasty don’t worry Trump is not going anywhere at least not for now, but things will quickly change if Bloomberg decides to use his cash and his media power against trump. It’s worth mentioning that Bloomberg have already stated they’ll not pursue any democrat leaders, but will go on a full scale assault against Trump.

Depends on who will be his opponent. As far as see, there isn't anyone who can win against Trump. This may change later but it is unlikely. Trump is not going to lose unless something very unordinary happens.

These all impeaching stuff is also adding more power to Trump. A smart guy would wait for him to make mistakes, not provoke him.

@mindrust the only democratic opponent who has the cash capital to match trump spending in these elections is Bloomberg, while he may not be the right presidential candidate but with media and cash on his side this elections can definitely be won by him.

Source: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-campaign-says-it-will-bar-bloomberg-reporters-over-political-coverage-policy-2019-12-02

[TECSHARE]

I don't think so to be honest... Everybody seems to hate on him. It would be weird if he won again. And very, very suspicious 
But I agree that there are no candidates that could seem as strong as him. We'll see. Gladly I'm not American haha 

Everyone doesn't hate him. Of course looking at our media you wouldn't know that. The rest of the world sees the US through our media, and without knowing and talking to residents here, based on that I can't blame anyone for thinking this place is insane, because that's what the media is.

[BADecker]

Life goes on! Dems know that, outside of some bizzarre happening involving Trump, that they will lose 2020. But that's only 4 more years of Trump. Then they will be back in the driver's seat - they are hoping.

Trump is making a big dent in US and world operations. But it still is only a dent. If we like what he is doing basically, we need to be planning for the post-Trump era of 2024, just like the Deep-State Dems are doing.

Who better than Ivanka?

[GideonGono]

I don’t get it though as why does the United States have only two presidents to run. And it is selected within the these two parties. I mean why can’t a person run independently with no party list or another partylist can be created. I think it linits the people choice because what if there is no one to choose among the choices made by these parties.

I don’t really know much about Trump since I don’t live in the US but most of the news that I heard aren’t that nice and I don’t know which to believe. It seems like people are just selecting which one is less worse than the other.

[BADecker]

I don’t get it though as why does the United States have only two presidents to run. And it is selected within the these two parties. I mean why can’t a person run independently with no party list or another partylist can be created. I think it linits the people choice because what if there is no one to choose among the choices made by these parties.

I don’t really know much about Trump since I don’t live in the US but most of the news that I heard aren’t that nice and I don’t know which to believe. It seems like people are just selecting which one is less worse than the other.

Freedom allows more than two. But, if you don't advertise and campaign, nobody will know you, or know to vote for you. Campaigning costs money. Only the wealthy or popular have or can get the money to do the campaigning.

[cryptobaro]

I am sure he will.. People usually love weird and racist people so they can elect him even 5 times. I can not see any opposition who is strong so I am pretty sure he would win the election again.

[BADecker]

One on One w/ Adam Kokesh - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAIYZ2mSsxE.

FINALLY FREE AMERICA. Kokesh for President - https://kokeshforpresident.com/.

[TECSHARE]

I don’t get it though as why does the United States have only two presidents to run. And it is selected within the these two parties. I mean why can’t a person run independently with no party list or another partylist can be created. I think it linits the people choice because what if there is no one to choose among the choices made by these parties.

I don’t really know much about Trump since I don’t live in the US but most of the news that I heard aren’t that nice and I don’t know which to believe. It seems like people are just selecting which one is less worse than the other.

You can technically run independently or without any specific party, but it means your exposure is limited to the point of being unelectable essentially. The founding fathers of this nation designed this to be a two party system purposely. The main idea was the government would be so busy bickering with itself they would have less time to molest the citizens of the nation. Also, if a 3rd party were to get popular, it would make it a simple task to divide the nation just enough to enable a radical minority to take power. You see this often in nations with a multiparty system as opposed to a binary one. Obviously a two party system is shit, but it is less shit than the shittier ones.

[suchmoon]

I'll take a 0.1BTC 1:1 trump wins 2020..

I'm in. Escrow or handshake?

Basic rules, which I hope you don't object to:

• Result is decided by the actual Electoral College meeting (not by the "pledged" counts of electors or anything like that).
• If the Electoral College doesn't meet by December 31 or some other reasonable date it's a draw (no winner).
• No presidential election in 2020 (martial law, martians invading, etc) means you lose (or a draw - not sure about this one).
• You win if Donald J Trump is elected president of the US in 2020 and I win in any other case.
• Donald J Trump not running for any reason (primaried out, dead, impeached, etc) means you lose.
• Any other candidate getting elected (democrat, republican, third party, etc) means you lose.
• If Donald J Trump is elected but doesn't get sworn in (dies, goes to prison, moves to Slovenia, etc) you win.

Anything else I'm missing?

[TwitchySeal]

I'll take a 0.1BTC 1:1 trump wins 2020..

I'm in. Escrow or handshake?

Basic rules, which I hope you don't object to:

• Result is decided by the actual Electoral College meeting (not by the "pledged" counts of electors or anything like that).
• If the Electoral College doesn't meet by December 31 or some other reasonable date it's a draw (no winner).
• No presidential election in 2020 (martial law, martians invading, etc) means you lose (or a draw - not sure about this one).
• You win if Donald J Trump is elected and I win if he isn't.
• Donald J Trump not running for any reason (primaried out, dead, impeached, etc) means you lose.
• Any other candidate getting elected (democrat, republican, third party, etc) means you lose.
• If Donald J Trump is elected but doesn't get sworn in (dies, goes to prison, moves to Slovenia, etc) you win.

Anything else I'm missing?

What if Trump loses but says he won over and over again every day from Nov - Jan and TECSHARE believes him.

You should escrow and choose an arbitrator before bet is confirmed.

[suchmoon]

What if Trump loses but says he won over and over again every day from Nov - Jan and TECSHARE believes him.

Doesn't matter. We go by Electoral College vote. If he loses but refuses to vacate the White House - I win. I guess we should define what happens if no one wins EC (tie or third candidate taking some votes). I would suggest a draw instead of following contingent election but I'm open to that if eddie13 prefers it.

You should escrow and choose an arbitrator before bet is confirmed.

I'm fine without escrow. I can trust eddie13 with 0.1 BTC. But if we want to choose an escrow and/or arbitrator it should be someone outside P&S whom we both trust. LoyceV comes to mind, if he would agree.

[TwitchySeal]

What if Trump loses but says he won over and over again every day from Nov - Jan and TECSHARE believes him.

Doesn't matter. We go by Electoral College vote. If he loses but refuses to vacate the White House - I win.

But he didn't lose, 400k puerto ricans each voted 5 times in Florida and they bussed in 300k Mexicans that voted 5 times each in Georgia.  And China hacked the voting system with help of the DNC so they could keep pushing their fake climate change hoax.

[suchmoon]

But he didn't lose, 400k puerto ricans each voted 5 times in Florida and they bussed in 300k Mexicans that voted 5 times each in Georgia.  And China hacked the voting system with help of the DNC so they could keep pushing their fake climate change hoax.

That's why I suggested a reasonable deadline for the EC meeting. If there is something going on that prevents the result from being determined we should make it a draw. What are the real possibilities here?

• Election goes smoothly, is not contested, EC meets - one of us wins.
• EC doesn't meet for some reason - contested results, court battles, etc? Draw.
• What else? Trump bribes electors? Hillary abducts them in a pizzeria basement?

[TwitchySeal]

But he didn't lose, 400k puerto ricans each voted 5 times in Florida and they bussed in 300k Mexicans that voted 5 times each in Georgia.  And China hacked the voting system with help of the DNC so they could keep pushing their fake climate change hoax.

That's why I suggested a reasonable deadline for the EC meeting. If there is something going that prevents the result from being determined we should make it a draw. What are the real possibilities here?

• Election goes smoothly, is not contested, EC meets - one of us wins.
• EC doesn't meet for some reason - contested results, court battles, etc? Draw.
• What else? Trump bribes electors? Hillary abducts them in a pizzeria basement?

If Trump loses, he will say he won.  Doesn't matter the reason he gives, TECSHARE will believe whatever Trump says and you won't be able to reason with him no matter how hard you try.  If he were to pay you, that would be the same as him saying Trump is wrong and admitting he was wrong, because he will cling to whatever the first excuse Trump gives and defend it at all costs - he's not capable of admitting either of those things.  You're in for a massive headache if you don't agree on an arbitrator before hand.