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November 22, 2019, 01:05:42 AM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
Maybe with higher volume transaction can give us safety with coin not scam where have many buy and sell order, how come found coins less buy order when some one sell with higher amount will make price down, I agree when higher volume transaction not give guarantee altcoin become profitable and higher price because there are many altcoin kind on Binance exchange keep lower price although have thousand billion volume transaction.

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November 22, 2019, 01:45:16 AM
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Yes, I totally agree. People are starting to think that volume determines whether or not a scam is because they want to find profits quickly. And when he doesn't see it on a project, they say it's a scam. Everything is money talking now. If this happens, then the PnD coin is also determined as a good coin, although only temporarily. Even though it was the developer update that really determined the project was a scam or not.



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November 22, 2019, 02:58:36 AM
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Project like bitconnect which was a obvious Ponzi scheme projects had massive trading volume and at some point in 2017 was among the top 10-15 highest trading coin on coinmarketcap in regarda to market capitalization. After from this scenario, trading volume on Coinmarketcap can't be rely on, as it can be easily manipulate by the exchanges most especially the small ones.

Judging the credibility or legitimacy of a project should go beyond such projects been privilege to be listed on an exchanges whether small or top exchanges not forgetting this exchanges can list any tokens without considering the welfare if their customers, providing the listing fees are been met by this projects.

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November 22, 2019, 03:03:13 AM
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It is good for traders and those who are making money out of them. Some traders do not care at all about whether the token is fundamentally good or bad. If they can see an opportunity to make money out of these kinds of coins, they will trade it. But to those who are buying for the sake of long term investment, these kinds of coins are really bad. They should not be bought for such investments as the risks are too high.

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November 22, 2019, 03:25:30 AM
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I'd still prefer those coins with good daily volumes though. I mean if they are attracting investors to trade their coin, then that would say they are still healthy and kicking. Most of the coins/tokens doesn't have any real use case anyway, they are just their to make hype and profit.

It's just a matter of where they are listed. Good coins are listed in good exchanges like Binance or Kucoin while bad coins are listed in unknown exchanges.
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November 22, 2019, 03:26:42 AM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

Use case is important if a coin is traded with a good volume without it, then it's just purely hype and manipulation in the market. Dont get shocked with it, cause everyday many tokens has pump and different coins. Market is also being played by huge traders who have deep pocket. So If I were you, stay on a platform or token that has a good performance based on use case not on trading.



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November 22, 2019, 03:40:11 AM
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Yes, tokens that have good trading volumes are sometimes bad or not that promising when it comes to their product or technology. It's like an exchange with high volume, it doesn't mean it is good or reliable enough. Take a look at Yobit. Full of shitcoins yet volume is still there, including its shitcoins. Good marketing creates hype and in hype there's money. Even in our daily life. Popular products with most sales are not guarantees for quality.   

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November 22, 2019, 03:42:56 AM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.

It depends.

Greater liquidity generally is directly correlated to a better project, because projects that have a low liquidity on exchanges usually aren't very highly demanded to begin with. All of the major projects which have real development will have significant volume traded.

The only big coin that I can think of that goes against this trend would be IOTA, which has less volume because its difficult infrustructure that means that it's listed on less exchanges. But every other coin, you should definitely look at volume and liquidity, because that directly affects the viability of your investment.
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November 22, 2019, 07:05:03 AM
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Yes, tokens that have good trading volumes are sometimes bad or not that promising when it comes to their product or technology. It's like an exchange with high volume, it doesn't mean it is good or reliable enough. Take a look at Yobit. Full of shitcoins yet volume is still there, including its shitcoins. Good marketing creates hype and in hype there's money. Even in our daily life. Popular products with most sales are not guarantees for quality.   
does that mean you agree that trading volume determines good or not?
It doesn't matter whether the project is good or not, the coins include shitcoin or not, as long as the HYPE is strong and the trading volume is high then it can be an investment choice.
if it's like that, then the project won't last long in my opinion, because the ecosystem isn't formed properly.
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November 22, 2019, 07:13:34 AM
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Your opinion is not wrong but it is not entirely true, in fact most tokens that have a lot of volume because they have a useful use case and from there they can maintain good demands. Indeed in some cases there are some projects that have good volumes because only hype, but it won't last long. While a really good project is one that can maintain its volume well as long as the project is alive, that is the difference between them. And we also need to pay attention that some of them also use bots to increase the volume. It all seems like a lot of manipulation to achieve their goals, really ironic.
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November 22, 2019, 07:25:11 AM
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this is absolutely true. a lot of stock market is trying to gather customers by making fake volume. they can easily pump a token and sell it to people.
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November 22, 2019, 07:28:43 AM
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I'd still prefer those coins with good daily volumes though. I mean if they are attracting investors to trade their coin, then that would say they are still healthy and kicking.
It is not the best thing to do, there was a coin that was trending at the beginning of last year, and the buzz was so much, there was so much investors, prospects, their telegram handle was booming as people spoke of how the coin will get to the moon and how they'll get their lambo, the trading volume was so high and I had to join in and I bought quite a lot.

I still regret that till today, slowly the whole buzz was dying down, we then realized they actually didn't have any use case, it was all just a plan to attract investors, and the volume was actually fake. Soon they stopped conversations on the group, you could only read their fake updates, according to them they changed ceo and we never got to hear from the new one. That was the end of that coin with all their trading volume, it can mislead investors.





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November 22, 2019, 07:29:08 AM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good, i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin, well here we go, bad coins can have huuuge volume, you must have heard of bomb token? bomb token has good trading volume but guess what? it has no real use case, the volume comes from HYPE because its a deflationary tokens, people believed that the more a max supply of a token get decreased or burned off over time means they are GOLD tokens, it does bring profits to early adopters like they say but NO REAL USE CASES.
For an investor anything that brings profits to them are good even if they have no real use case, but investors need to beware while holding these tokens since the price may fall at any time because of its no usage to the world.

Some tokens and coins also faking their volumes with bot trading to themselves this is another reason why we don't have to judge a token based on the trading volume alone.

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November 22, 2019, 07:48:34 AM
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Deflation in my opinion is not a good idea, the concept of burning tokens so that the supply is smaller or limited, Does not mean that the rarity or the like of gold, need to remember tokens / coins can be broken down to be as small as possible (0.0000001) so the token supply is considered to be only 100k supply, it is sufficient . The main problem is whether to have pergerkan or real use, to carry out deflation. if it's not balanced it's useless, like this scheme ((dump - (deflation = pump) - dump Tongue )).

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November 22, 2019, 07:49:22 AM
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Behold good trading volume doesn't mean a coin or token is good,
You are correct unless it can stand the test of time.

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i read in a thread where few people are saying if a coin has no volume means its a bad coin
A zero trading volume could mean people are not interested in the token/project but not necessarily mean a bad coin.

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well here we go, bad coins can have huge volume
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Certainly, especially those big time scammers that manipulate market with bots thereby generating fake volume.

A good token are those that have real life usage and maintain a steady volume not necessary a huge  one, they are to be consisted in the services they provide, people shall notice them as time goes by.
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November 22, 2019, 07:55:59 AM
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this is absolutely true. a lot of stock market is trying to gather customers by making fake volume. they can easily pump a token and sell it to people.
Possible for making this fake volume are those on the unknown exchange which controls by whales to generate a huge pump to create a massive sells and dump at a given time when the price are high so be careful when you invested this kind of token.
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November 22, 2019, 08:00:48 AM
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I often get coins that have large volumes but are very difficult to sell. all are controlled by bots buy and sell orders are filled with bots that manipulate the volume.
The coins are only listed in one exchange, so there is no other choice to sell coins like that, except selling on buy orders and will be executed by the bot.
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November 22, 2019, 08:02:48 AM
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I have some few deflationary tokens in my wallet, they have good price but on exchange the volume is pretty bad, and i said to myself, of course they have no real use than burning, why would people want to buy them?
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November 22, 2019, 08:09:53 AM
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I often get coins that have large volumes but are very difficult to sell. all are controlled by bots buy and sell orders are filled with bots that manipulate the volume.
The coins are only listed in one exchange, so there is no other choice to sell coins like that, except selling on buy orders and will be executed by the bot.

There are a lot of manipulators around the market so we couldn't know which is good to buy if you are investor. to us bounty hunters it is so difficult to earn with this kind of projects we can not sure that they will going to release what were working for how many months. so we need to search a good project that does not aim for manipulating.

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November 22, 2019, 08:16:17 AM
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Its easier to create fake volume for any coin or token which is why i think its better to rate coins, tokens and exchanges with liquidity instead of volume, you can't fake liquidity and it all comes down to the exchanges they are listed on

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