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November 24, 2019, 07:31:11 AM
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I am currently using Firefox but i want to use TOR browser to login Bitcointalk. Is it safe to use TOR browser as i heard it is a dark web browser where hackers can hack our credentials and information ?
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Is it safe to use TOR browser as i heard it is a dark web browser where hackers can hack our credentials and information ?
Using tor browser has nothing to do with Dark net. Good people use it to protect their privacy. You can use VPN as well.

Hacking your credential has nothing to do with TOR browser as well.
Hacking can happen if you are not aware of the security measures that one needs to know to use internet. There are phishing attempts, pop ups, unwanted malware visiting risky sites ans some many things. Anyone can inject a piece of program and can risk your security if you are not aware about minimum required knowledge when your are browsing online.

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I am currently using Firefox but i want to use TOR browser to login Bitcointalk.
Are you saying you wan to use firefox with Tor connection?

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November 24, 2019, 07:37:38 AM
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I am currently using Firefox but i want to use TOR browser to login Bitcointalk. Is it safe to use TOR browser as i heard it is a dark web browser where hackers can hack our credentials and information ?

Tor Browser is more used for the privacy purpose. If you want to protect your identity online then tor is for you. If you think that login is not secure, then you are wrong.  But you should ensure that SSL/TLS is enabled for the site where you are logging.

You can gain more information about privacy browsers here. https://www.privacytools.io/browsers/
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November 24, 2019, 07:45:31 AM
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Is it safe to use TOR browser as i heard it is a dark web browser where hackers can hack our credentials and information ?
Using tor browser has nothing to do with Dark net. Good people use it to protect their privacy. You can use VPN as well.

Hacking your credential has nothing to do with TOR browser as well.
Hacking can happen if you are not aware of the security measures that one needs to know to use internet. There are phishing attempts, pop ups, unwanted malware visiting risky sites ans some many things. Anyone can inject a piece of program and can risk your security if you are not aware about minimum required knowledge when your are browsing online.

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I am currently using Firefox but i want to use TOR browser to login Bitcointalk.
Are you saying you wan to use firefox with Tor connection?

I am asking only about the standalone TOR browser and what you mean by good people use TOR ? so it means bad people use other browsers  Huh
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November 24, 2019, 08:51:19 AM
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I am currently using Firefox but i want to use TOR browser to login Bitcointalk. Is it safe to use TOR browser as i heard it is a dark web browser where hackers can hack our credentials and information ?

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November 24, 2019, 09:11:10 AM
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I am currently using Firefox but i want to use TOR browser to login Bitcointalk. Is it safe to use TOR browser as i heard it is a dark web browser where hackers can hack our credentials and information ?

I don't know what 'dark web browser' is... but yes you can use Tor browser for Bitcoitnalk if you care about privacy.

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November 24, 2019, 09:13:40 AM
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I am currently using Firefox but i want to use TOR browser to login Bitcointalk. Is it safe to use TOR browser as i heard it is a dark web browser where hackers can hack our credentials and information ?
If the Firefox you are using now is reliable and you feel safe and comfortable, why have you tried other like TOR browser ?
I think you just want to prove that what you heard about the TOR browser is wrong, if it's true then follow this advice.
You can gain more information about privacy browsers here. https://www.privacytools.io/browsers/

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November 24, 2019, 09:13:50 AM
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As mentioned using a VPN is an alternative although for added privacy
using tor through a VPN gives extra privacy.

Firefox has good privacy features and I currently use this through PROTONVPN

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November 24, 2019, 09:37:42 AM
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I am currently using Firefox but i want to use TOR browser to login Bitcointalk. Is it safe to use TOR browser as i heard it is a dark web browser where hackers can hack our credentials and information ?

Why do you want to use TOR while you obviously know nothing about it?
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November 24, 2019, 09:39:35 AM
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Tor works by anonymizing your connection through the use of nodes which bounces your traffic within the nodes before having the traffic exit through a node called exit node. Your traffic is encrypted while it is transferred within the tor network and when it exits through the exit node, the only encryption of your traffic is by the SSL that Bitcointalk uses.

This means that the final exit node can see the traffic in plaintext if your traffic isn't encryption. Since Bitcointalk implements HSTS and that Tor has HTTPS Always built in, it isn't that big of a problem. Your privacy is definitely guaranteed by the proper use of Tor and that should be your only aim if you're using Tor.

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November 24, 2019, 10:15:19 AM
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First place to start with Tor browser is reading its guide, in particular the General FAQ
Second place to learn more: Overview on browsers. Which one should we use? Support free web while browsing.

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November 24, 2019, 11:30:25 AM
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I am currently using Firefox but i want to use TOR browser to login Bitcointalk. Is it safe to use TOR browser as i heard it is a dark web browser where hackers can hack our credentials and information ?

If you really want to use TOR, then maybe you can initially opt to install Brave Browser and chose Private Window with Tor. But if you want full pledge security, then you can try the Tor Browser instead but it will have differences with browser capability as compared with Brave Browser which has more features bundled within.

For more information, kindly visit this link: https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018121491-What-is-a-Private-Window-with-Tor-
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November 24, 2019, 12:35:27 PM
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I am currently using Firefox but i want to use TOR browser to login Bitcointalk. Is it safe to use TOR browser as i heard it is a dark web browser where hackers can hack our credentials and information ?
Using TOR browser to browse bitcointalk won't affect you at any stage, you might have issues if you try to sign up with TOR browser due to evil points.

TOR is not darkweb, it's just a browser which keeps changing its IP location but if you want to enter into darkweb you need to have onion URLs for the site you wanted to visit.

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November 24, 2019, 01:00:01 PM
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Lots of misinformation in this thread.

Is it safe to use TOR browser as i heard it is a dark web browser where hackers can hack our credentials and information ?
Using Tor will allow you to access .onion sites which are on the dark web, but it also allows you to browser any other "normal" website too. Usual security practices apply, and simply using Tor browser doesn't put you at any higher risk of being hacked than using any other browser, unless you go around downloading random software from unknown sites. Tor is much safer than any other browser "out of the box", since it has HTTPS Everywhere and NoScript installed as default, but obviously these can be installed on any other good browser too.

I am asking only about the standalone TOR browser and what you mean by good people use TOR ? so it means bad people use other browsers  Huh
Lots of good and bad people use every browser.

As mentioned using a VPN is an alternative although for added privacy
using tor through a VPN gives extra privacy.
VPNs only obscure your IP address from the site you are connecting to. They are generally poor for privacy since your VPN provider can see both your real IP and your traffic, so you are trusting them to not do anything malicious with that data. Many people also pay for VPNs using fiat which is entirely traceable to your real name and address. Using a VPN and Tor together can often make your privacy worse, not better.

If you really want to use TOR, then maybe you can initially opt to install Brave Browser and chose Private Window with Tor.
Brave browser, with or without Tor, is a very poor choice if you are worried about privacy.

If you are going to be using Tor, then it might be worthwhile bookmarking your captcha bypass login link that you can access here (https://bitcointalk.org/captcha_code.php), as otherwise you'll be filling in captchas for 10 minutes every time you want to log in.
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November 24, 2019, 01:05:22 PM
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Lots of misinformation in this thread.

If you really want to use TOR, then maybe you can initially opt to install Brave Browser and chose Private Window with Tor.
Brave browser, with or without Tor, is a very poor choice if you are worried about privacy.

If you are going to be using Tor, then it might be worthwhile bookmarking your captcha bypass login link that you can access here (https://bitcointalk.org/captcha_code.php), as otherwise you'll be filling in captchas for 10 minutes every time you want to log in.

I agree, that is why I have also pointed out the possibility of using the Tor Browser itself if OP wants to have more privacy as stated in my previous post.
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November 24, 2019, 02:31:47 PM
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If you are going to be using Tor, then it might be worthwhile bookmarking your captcha bypass login link that you can access here (https://bitcointalk.org/captcha_code.php), as otherwise you'll be filling in captchas for 10 minutes every time you want to log in.
This is a little misinformation too. Sometimes I can log in with Tor browser within several seconds, with my first attempt. In contrast, sometimes I have to spend around several minutes (maybe longer than 10 minutes, up to 30 minutes - in such cases I get mad with failed attempts) after so many failed attempts - that what you mentioned correctly.

For capcha code, I have my videos for newbies here: CapchaBypass for accounts on Bitcointalk.org
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- For all ranks, even Brandnew (the account I used for the video is a brandnew)
- keyword combination: bitcointalk.org (to avoid phishing forum) + capcha + bypass
- Log in once to see your capcha code
- Save and secure your capcha code to avoid hack (by bruteforce your password)
- Once you log in with capcha code, you will no longer see the Capcha section in the Login Box.

tranthidung's Youtube videos for bitcointalkers. Welcome newbies!. I have plans to make more videos after managing skills to make better videos.

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November 24, 2019, 06:44:22 PM
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Using a VPN and Tor together can often make your privacy worse, not better.

Lots of informative and confusing information in this thread but for now clear my two questions please.

1- Does this means that using only TOR is the best way to protect the privacy ?

2-Does this also means that those companies asking for dollars to provide premium vpn services can be replaced by just using the free TOR browser ?
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November 24, 2019, 06:56:55 PM
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Lots of informative and confusing information in this thread but for now clear my two questions please.

1- Does this means that using only TOR is the best way to protect the privacy ?

Depends. The Tor network uses relays which changes every so often so that you aren't going to the same end node. However, using a VPN would mean you would always be sending your data to the same end point which would be your VPN provider which likely has your payment details unless you have paid with Bitcoin. Paying with Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency which isn't associated with your personal information would be a good approach to privacy. However, many users don't do this, because Bitcoin isn't that well suited for small fee transactions.

With Tor, and VPN's it normally comes down to how you use them when concerning privacy. They can be used together, and its certainly a better solution to just using a normal IP address, but you have to be careful how you use it.
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November 24, 2019, 07:16:16 PM
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Well if you only visit websites as what you regularly visit on normal browsers and you just use TOR for privacy you won't have to worry about anything about others infiltrating your device. TOR is just a browser that is capable of accessing websites in the dark web and it's not capable of giving you malware directly. Still you need to learn the best way to protect your information and money is by not visiting unsafe websites, clicking suspicious links, and downloading suspicious files, it doesn't matter what browser you choose since this is what you need to do to prevent breaches from happening.
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November 24, 2019, 07:37:09 PM
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Does this means that using only TOR is the best way to protect the privacy ?
Depends who you are looking to protect your privacy against. VPNs encrypt all traffic between your computer and the VPN server. If you are looking to protect yourself while on a public WiFi for example, or hide your internet activities from your ISP, or any traffic outside a browser (torrenting, communication apps, phone calls, etc.), then they are a good choice. They also hide your true IP from the website or service you are connecting to. However, you have to place full trust in your VPN provider to not be spying on your traffic or keeping logs, and as I mentioned above, most people pay for their VPNs using fiat or non-anonymized crypto, meaning the VPN provider knows your real identity and can therefore link you to all your traffic. I pretty much always use a VPN for a variety of reasons, but they do not guarantee anonymity by any means.

If you want true privacy, then yes, you should be using Tor. If you connect to your VPN first and then to Tor, there is little difference in privacy over using Tor alone. If Tor is blocked in your country, or you wish to hide the fact you are using Tor from your ISP, then sure you can achieve this using a VPN, but you can also achieve this using Tor bridges +/- pluggable transports. If you connect to Tor first, and then to your VPN, then you have negated the entire point of using Tor in the first place since all your traffic will exit from the same node (your VPN provider), who will be able to see all your traffic.
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