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April 11, 2020, 04:02:07 PM
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^^^^
Excellent reference too minerjones.
Didnt know about this since I just joined the collectibles section and seriously getting into it from 2 months or so ago.
I have the upmost trust in your knowledge and sincerity for all in this small but passionate community.
Keeping it safe is top priority so those who venture into this section never need to get involved in this sort of situation again.
My hats off to you. Wink

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April 11, 2020, 04:48:43 PM
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Bas.....remake the cards/toys free of charge. Now ship them all to everyone with tracking information. Upload receipts and share with minerjones. I’ll cover all the costs of shipping which minerjones will pay you after everyone confirms receipt.

Good idea, rxalts. Maybe send them all in a single package to MJ. He can send them out to the various recipients. I'll reimburse him too.

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I don't think he is gonna reply or agree to this. He first gained the trust here and then used that trust to scam the people. How foolish of him.
If he has not been guilty of all this, he could have converted this into a profitable business but greedy people don't think like this.  Angry

I was thinking that the quickest intermediary measure to attempt to salvage some credibility would be to just reimburse all funds that were sent that did not have a product sent/received.  Probably not any need to reimburse anyone who received a product that was of the value that was agreed to.  

So, Basorexia (purportedly Taras) is proclaiming that currently he does not have enough funds to reimburse everyone completely and immediately for the amount that they had sent, but that he has proposed to be able to send payments, but has not specified any kind of exact plan nor any kind of timeline to accomplish such payments.  

Of course, members are going to be skeptical of genuineness of such offer that is lacking in details.

I personally believe that if Basorexia were to want to be perceived as genuine in his reimbursement offer, then he would just disclose a specific reimbursement plan and a tentative and reasonable timeline target to accomplish the total reimbursement, and start reimbursement as soon as possible, then some credibility would likely be regained.   Probably the best way would just list all the members and the amount that he plans to reimburse and the timeline for such (someone correct me if they believe that there is a problem in attempting to carry out the reimbursement openly, and maybe if some members specifically state that they want to keep their names anonymous, then that could be labelled as anonymous in the publicly disclosed reimbursement plan?) 

Otherwise, yeah, without a specific plan with a specific timeline, it just appears that Basorexia/Taras is merely just dragging out this matter for apparent ongoing lame-ass deception purposes to continue to play around with the community that he has presumably scammed out of coins and to drag the matter out in order to cause it to appear that that whatever happened is not a scam, but merely in the end, just showing that the offer of remedy that he made is not a genuine remedy offer.

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April 11, 2020, 09:46:17 PM
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After sadly looking through this and then noticing the person bolted with the funds, kinda hope that the mods lock this up.

Wish I could get one though Sad

Edit: Never mind on that, read a bit too quick. Hopefully this guy can show that he's not a scammer.




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Don't forget the last card in the set.

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April 13, 2020, 12:56:28 PM
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Bas.....remake the cards/toys free of charge. Now ship them all to everyone with tracking information. Upload receipts and share with minerjones. I’ll cover all the costs of shipping which minerjones will pay you after everyone confirms receipt.

This is a reasonable proposal. Let me estimate the time needed.
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April 13, 2020, 01:05:50 PM
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Bas.....remake the cards/toys free of charge. Now ship them all to everyone with tracking information. Upload receipts and share with minerjones. I’ll cover all the costs of shipping which minerjones will pay you after everyone confirms receipt.

This is a reasonable proposal. Let me estimate the time needed.

Yes:  Great idea!!!!   Grasp on to something very "reasonable"  The more complex, the better.  Right?


Why don't you grasp onto a real reasonable and straight forward approach, namely:  just pay everyone back, and if if any of them wants to reorder, after you have paid everyone back, then take the matter of orders and shipping and all of that mumbo jumbo from there.

Nah.  That would be too straight forward.  Right?

Instead you want to drag this bullshit out, which should cause a lot of members to be more skeptical about your intentions to make matters good... or that you are even being honest in your description of the purported mess-up.

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April 13, 2020, 01:40:26 PM
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A refund would be the way to go.

Once I get card in my hands..then I will pay again.


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Update:  I was asked how much I lost via PM.  Address given here publicly.  Not a single bit sent. 



This is a reasonable proposal. Let me estimate the time needed.

This does not sound like any other Bas reply from the early parts of this thread. 

Don't count on these ever coming to fruition or the person in charge of this account doing the right thing.  If you get strung along believing you'll eventually get your item.... you deserve what you get.  This user is not trustworthy, PERIOD!
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Update:  I was asked how much I lost via PM.  Address given here publicly.  Not a single bit sent. 



This is a reasonable proposal. Let me estimate the time needed.

This does not sound like any other Bas reply from the early parts of this thread. 

Don't count on these ever coming to fruition or the person in charge of this account doing the right thing.  If you get strung along believing you'll eventually get your item.... you deserve what you get.  This user is not trustworthy, PERIOD!

Just to expand a bit on this, I want to make sure that people know that if they're being strung along and they're asked for more funds -- DO NOT SEND ANY MORE FUNDS. If you get asked for more funds, it's just an attempt to scam more.

Expect that you've lost all the money that you've sent. If you get it back or if you get the collectible cards then great. If not then move on. Tough luck folks.




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Did MJ or anyone get messaged by this guy for batch shipping?
The fact that he didn't, and kept "shipping in singles" made it to where he really profited more , suggesting myself for the service seems to have nerfed off the notion due to the scrutiny I recieved.
Essentially taking advantage of your distrust by scapcoating me.
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Did MJ or anyone get messaged by this guy for batch shipping?
The fact that he didn't, and kept "shipping in singles" made it to where he really profited more , suggesting myself for the service seems to have nerfed off the notion due to the scrutiny I recieved.
Essentially taking advantage of your distrust by scapcoating me.
 Maybe in the future this can be viewed as a red flag.

Your entire statement is all kinds of narcissistic.  Lol.  Sorry buddy, it has nothing to due with the scrutiny towards you etc.... stop it.  I'm sorry I/we hurt your feelings by saying if bulk shipping happens we want it to go to MJ.  They are only the most trusted person on this site.  Lol.  


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We were just too trusting of a newbie as it with started digital goods we all received.  They got a bunch of us on the physicals.  It won't happen again. 
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Sorry for delays, please remember that I cannot pay back to all quickly because I do it form my what I earn daily.
I would like to kind ask those who got refunds to drop a message here
thank you and my apologizes again
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Sorry for delays, please remember that I cannot pay back to all quickly because I do it form my what I earn daily.
I would like to kind ask those who got refunds to drop a message here
thank you and my apologizes again
This morning I did receive the approx $30USD worth of BTC that I requested Basorexia pay back.

I still would like to see a current picture of the holofoil paper he had, the printer, the supplies.. maybe a card or two printed/being cut to size in order to believe this isn't the thief friend trying to get enough rep bought back to hit us harder a second time.

First steps taken but there are some hurdles you need to still get over here Bas.
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Sorry for delays, please remember that I cannot pay back to all quickly because I do it form my what I earn daily.
I would like to kind ask those who got refunds to drop a message here
thank you and my apologizes again

Is there anything stopping you from outlining a tentative plan and timeline for your distribution of refunds.... even if you do not have the money right away, supposedly, you should be able to figure out some time to get your timeline in order and to communicate a somewhat reasonable plan.

Personally, I believe that no one should send you any more money until you have already completely dealt with all the refunds, either refunding everyone or getting a clear representation from the member that they do not want to receive a refund.  Of course, you might require that members have to communicate that they want a refund, especially in regards to the digital products, which would not be completely unreasonable, but given what doubts you have already created and even the questions about whether you had shipped any items or even whether you had actually acquired any supplies to make the product that you claimed to be making, it would likely be better to be completely upfront about how you intend to deal with everyone who had given you money including creating clear categories in regards to what will cause you to refund their money and the order in which you plan to issue such refunds, too.

Edit:  I noticed in the above post from teeGUMES that he is acknowledging receipt of what is presumably a complete refund, so I agree that is a good sign... It does seem a bit strange and problematic if you are ONLY planning to give refunds to members who publicly post about it...because that may end up blowing up in your face... Alternatively, I could appreciate a plan that sends refunds to members who post here first, and maybe even in the order that they are posted.. seems a bit random.. or maybe in the order that they had paid... but there should be some criteria to help to provide some confidence that you have an actual plan that you intend to follow.

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April 17, 2020, 08:07:47 PM
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I will like to order a 1000*1000 pixel digital card I need for a small project. Say hello on PM if I can write what I need.

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April 17, 2020, 08:18:26 PM
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Sorry for delays, please remember that I cannot pay back to all quickly because I do it form my what I earn daily.
I would like to kind ask those who got refunds to drop a message here
thank you and my apologizes again

So what you want me to do? Can i get a refund or can i get the card?

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Thats a sad twist to this thread, sorry to read it went that way.   I really liked those cards, I advise just doing one card at a time and completing that before the next.    Alot of people are totally awful when it comes to handling cash and budgets, I dont know if malacious or not but monetary incompetence is common.

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I will like to order a 1000*1000 pixel digital card I need for a small project. Say hello on PM if I can write what I need.


You are off your nut mate. Dont give ANY bitc to basorexia until he makes this right. Have you read whats happened here? Look at his trust rating....

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I will like to order a 1000*1000 pixel digital card I need for a small project. Say hello on PM if I can write what I need.

You are off your nut mate. Dont give ANY bitc to basorexia until he makes this right. Have you read whats happened here? Look at his trust rating....

There are some people who seem to have as one of their sole purposes in life to get scammed.

They must love it or something.

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April 17, 2020, 09:14:13 PM
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I sent Basorexia a private message on 10 April requesting a refund for my physical card and toy.  I included a btc address.  That message, and a follow up today, have both gone ignored. 

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