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It is the news so who do you think owns those? Media controlled by government or the owner of the media station is just too bitter with people getting privacy. Why would the media like that kind of idea? They will lose their job and business if ever that happens. The rich want control with everything and the poor must stay where they are. If they can keep their money without a trace it will be a problem for the rich. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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It is the news so who do you think owns those? Media controlled by government or the owner of the media station is just too bitter with people getting privacy. Why would the media like that kind of idea? They will lose their job and business if ever that happens. The rich want control with everything and the poor must stay where they are. If they can keep their money without a trace it will be a problem for the rich. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) The media is so fan of making a hot topic even if the legitimacy of it is nowhere to be found. They tend to make it eye-catching with the viewers and listeners but the more they make fake news the more they lost trust of the people. So let the media use their power and we use our own power to know the truth too as long as the internet is not being censored we can do whatever we want without the manipulation of these medias nowadays.
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November 30, 2019, 04:54:54 PM |
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But dude, price has never really been the key way to show how big the crypto market is. For me, what you can see now and what is public, is for sure some indication. But there is SO much going on that isn't recorded. Okay sure, we get P2P volume from LBC, but there's lots of other P2P type trades under the radar, not to mention OTC. Take into account that a lot of huge OTC trades actually only mean the transfer of ownership (but keys remain under the same custody)... meaning a lot of whale trades otc actually happen without any transaction happening on chain!
And now with 2nd layer taking more and more off-chain (check out the increasing Lightning Network volumes!), there's a lot of hidden market action going on.
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December 01, 2019, 08:19:04 AM |
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Btc Price is Not showing exactly how big is crypto market Cap really!
Btc Price comes from the buy and sell orders from coinbase/ kraken/ binance... Polo and So... Others.
But it does Not show nothing When crypto is exchanged privately.
So what should be the correct Bitcoin price then? 7000 $ for that Kind of crypto awarness and adoption its very little...
We have so much hype... About crypto like bakkt... Like FED printing money and inflation of FIAT Currency... So much positive news daily, but the btc is Not doing Good!
The hype is bigger then action
WHO is Behind that fake and Missleading news? Those positive news are Missleading If the real results and profit are Not there!!
You can catch the hype everywhere in life and the cryptocurrency market is no exception, sharks will know how to exaggerate the good and bad news to achieve their goals. However, sharks can only exaggerate news without being able to determine the prices of currencies. The cryptocurrency market is a free market and the price is regulated by the law of supply and demand, the price will be set based on the needs of the seller and the buyer. Of course, the price on coinmarketcap does not reflect 100% of the value of bitcoin at the time, but I guess it accurately reflects 95%. Yes btc is Techically Good but Price is Not Good
In terms of the price of Bitcoin, no one can say exactly how much Bitcoin is worth, maybe $ 1 can be $ 1 million.
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December 01, 2019, 09:49:07 AM |
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Btc Price is Not showing exactly how big is crypto market Cap really!
Btc Price comes from the buy and sell orders from coinbase/ kraken/ binance... Polo and So... Others.
But it does Not show nothing When crypto is exchanged privately.
So what should be the correct Bitcoin price then? 7000 $ for that Kind of crypto awarness and adoption its very little...
We have so much hype... About crypto like bakkt... Like FED printing money and inflation of FIAT Currency... So much positive news daily, but the btc is Not doing Good!
The hype is bigger then action
WHO is Behind that fake and Missleading news? Those positive news are Missleading If the real results and profit are Not there!!
Yes btc is Techically Good but Price is Not Good
The big medias and whales who have thousands of bitcoin could do manipulating the price, because people are usually measure the price just by the news. The media can easily make a good news and pump the coin that they hold or the reverse.
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there is such misleading news that is also manipulated by a higher individual that wants the price to decrease so much, there is really some force behind this and FUD is keeping out and always there I think many in the community are still believing it, but the showing market cap, and volume, in my opinion, it doesn't have any effect on the price of Bitcoin, the volatility is there even though it keeps on changing and right now showing a bearish movement, we should not always believe the misleading one out there.
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This is the main reason why we shouldn’t trust some news a 100% they could really mislead their followers. We don’t even really know that were in the real bear market who knows. We know that manipulators are responsible for this kind of activity for their self interest however we will not get affected if we don’t fall to their traps.
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there is such misleading news that is also manipulated by a higher individual that wants the price to decrease so much, there is really some force behind this and FUD is keeping out and always there I think many in the community are still believing it, but the showing market cap, and volume, in my opinion, it doesn't have any effect on the price of Bitcoin, the volatility is there even though it keeps on changing and right now showing a bearish movement, we should not always believe the misleading one out there.
Most of the traders are relying to fundamentals than technicals and for me it is not good decision. They keep blaming the news if they experiencing losses. They do not know how to cut lose even their portfolios are negative -30% and up. Do not base your decisions in just fundamentals, remember technicals are very important.
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Most of the traders are relying to fundamentals than technicals and for me it is not good decision. They keep blaming the news if they experiencing losses. They do not know how to cut lose even their portfolios are negative -30% and up. Do not base your decisions in just fundamentals, remember technicals are very important.
People buying Bitcoin for a quick flip based on fundamentals are losers. Fundamentals can keep getting stronger while the price keeps decreasing, which we have seen happen. Bitcoin's fundamentals are better than ever before today, yet we're 65% below the price when Bitcoin fundamentally sucked in 2017. Technicals are super important and the reason shitcoins with zero utility can pump for quite a long period of time. Traders just follow the charts and do not care what the name of the coin is or what it does. People ignoring technicals always pay the price for their stupidity. Fundamentals buyers in my opinion are those who buy Bitcoin today with the intention of sitting on their coins for at least 5 years. Remember, markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent!
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This is the main reason why we shouldn’t trust some news a 100% they could really mislead their followers. We don’t even really know that were in the real bear market who knows. We know that manipulators are responsible for this kind of activity for their self interest however we will not get affected if we don’t fall to their traps.
Even if I agree when you say that we should not trust everything that we see on the news it is undeniable that we are in the middle of a bear market, from the top that we reached during this year the price has gone down almost 50% and there are many indicators that say that we are in a long term negative trend, what else they need to believe that this is a bear market, maybe this bear market will last a lot less than the previous one but it is still undeniable that this is a bear market.
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December 03, 2019, 11:49:23 AM |
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Yes btc is Techically Good but Price is Not Good
It is undervalued is what you meant, right? Bitcoin's price changes or volatility is what makes this market a better place to trade, this is actually good for short term traders and still good for long term traders or investors if they understand the market norms, bitcoin is a high risk investment, that alone would already tell that it's not a typical kind of asset as manipulation is and has been happening here.
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there is such misleading news that is also manipulated by a higher individual that wants the price to decrease so much, there is really some force behind this and FUD is keeping out and always there I think many in the community are still believing it, but the showing market cap, and volume, in my opinion, it doesn't have any effect on the price of Bitcoin, the volatility is there even though it keeps on changing and right now showing a bearish movement, we should not always believe the misleading one out there.
Such news always appears and can be easily manipulated by a group of individuals because it has the goal of making everyone panic so that they can easily dispose of their assets because they have been influenced by false news that is already widespread. therefore do not easily believe that there is misleading news that can destroy the mindset of society, the only thing that can affect the increase or decrease in market prices depends on the volume of trade in it or from the many requests and offers from the people who trade in it.
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Negative thinking has always been a mindset of certain type of people. Some people are always thinking the worst will happen to them, they always feel like the world is out to get them and they are unlucky and everything that has happened bad is somehow universe telling them no.
Some people are not like that, no matter what happens they make it their duty to make it happen and succeed.
Now, those people in bitcoin could be listed as bulls and bears or fuds and fomos because in the end bitcoin is something human driven and there is nothing tied to its price, if we buy it, it will go up which is why the bulls/fomos are doing right now, if we sell it it will go down which is what fud/bear people are doing so in the long run it is the fight of two type of people that decides the price.
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Negative thinking has always been a mindset of certain type of people. Some people are always thinking the worst will happen to them, they always feel like the world is out to get them and they are unlucky and everything that has happened bad is somehow universe telling them no.
Some people are not like that, no matter what happens they make it their duty to make it happen and succeed.
Now, those people in bitcoin could be listed as bulls and bears or fuds and fomos because in the end bitcoin is something human driven and there is nothing tied to its price, if we buy it, it will go up which is why the bulls/fomos are doing right now, if we sell it it will go down which is what fud/bear people are doing so in the long run it is the fight of two type of people that decides the price.
A market does only compose of 2 things which is sellers and buyers.Price would be driven basing on the behavior among the two including the supply and into its demand. Manipulation,fomo and fuds is always there which is pretty normal but as a smart investor you wont really be easily driven down nor get affected no matter what the situation would be faced up. It all matters on how you foreseen things and do react according into your own understanding and analysis.Be smart and dont get easily be affected with emotions then you would definitely do well.
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What we could think next year is not really the same as it happens. We may be expecting bullish next year cause of halving effects but it doesn't mean that it shows us instantly. News will always be talking negatively about crypto, this it makes you loosen up your trust and faith to crypto cause in the first and as a part of the crypto community, we better know what is really happening inside and all of these are just misleading news/ FUDs. If you listen to them, it surely will bother you and can't decide the right thing to do.
it's normal, if our mentality is not strong enough to face the FUD, I'm sure you will be weak, and you will no longer trade in cryptocurrency, but if you are resistant to FUD you don't need to worry, I'm sure Bitcoin and altcoin will always live We can't stop other people to think negatively against fud, because it was still erradicating while bitcoin still tries to recover from the latest dipped price. Most new holders have fears, that's why more affected with the fake news and other related concerns on cryptocurrency's irregularities. We just need the right knowledge to be firm on our belief no matter what they throw to us as long as you have the right information there's no fake news will break you. What do we have seen about the price of Bitcoin is just a normal routine and a little bump to increase the price before the year ends. But be cautious enough because it might drown your investment if you go short when the market is too volatile.
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What we could think next year is not really the same as it happens. We may be expecting bullish next year cause of halving effects but it doesn't mean that it shows us instantly. News will always be talking negatively about crypto, this it makes you loosen up your trust and faith to crypto cause in the first and as a part of the crypto community, we better know what is really happening inside and all of these are just misleading news/ FUDs. If you listen to them, it surely will bother you and can't decide the right thing to do.
it's normal, if our mentality is not strong enough to face the FUD, I'm sure you will be weak, and you will no longer trade in cryptocurrency, but if you are resistant to FUD you don't need to worry, I'm sure Bitcoin and altcoin will always live We can't stop other people to think negatively against fud, because it was still erradicating while bitcoin still tries to recover from the latest dipped price. Most new holders have fears, that's why more affected with the fake news and other related concerns on cryptocurrency's irregularities. We just need the right knowledge to be firm on our belief no matter what they throw to us as long as you have the right information there's no fake news will break you. What do we have seen about the price of Bitcoin is just a normal routine and a little bump to increase the price before the year ends. But be cautious enough because it might drown your investment if you go short when the market is too volatile. This is why I'd never give any conclusion without digging up more information. May others will consider it true cause they believe that media reports are believing but we can't deny also that they are sometimes paid just to give fake news. It surely won't affect us if we know what exactly it happens but for those who didn't understand the situation, they will simply slip into it.
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Yes btc is Techically Good but Price is Not Good
It is undervalued is what you meant, right? Bitcoin's price changes or volatility is what makes this market a better place to trade, this is actually good for short term traders and still good for long term traders or investors if they understand the market norms, bitcoin is a high risk investment, that alone would already tell that it's not a typical kind of asset as manipulation is and has been happening here. While some may see the volatility of the market as a great disadvantage and I understand their reasons a market that can go from overvalued to undervalued and vice versa is a great market for a trader since you can make incredible profits in a very short amount of time if you compare your potential profits to other markets, so instead of complaining about the volatility of the market of cryptocurrencies I say that we must take advantage of it while we still can.
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What we could think next year is not really the same as it happens. We may be expecting bullish next year cause of halving effects but it doesn't mean that it shows us instantly. News will always be talking negatively about crypto, this it makes you loosen up your trust and faith to crypto cause in the first and as a part of the crypto community, we better know what is really happening inside and all of these are just misleading news/ FUDs. If you listen to them, it surely will bother you and can't decide the right thing to do.
it's normal, if our mentality is not strong enough to face the FUD, I'm sure you will be weak, and you will no longer trade in cryptocurrency, but if you are resistant to FUD you don't need to worry, I'm sure Bitcoin and altcoin will always live We can't stop other people to think negatively against fud, because it was still erradicating while bitcoin still tries to recover from the latest dipped price. Most new holders have fears, that's why more affected with the fake news and other related concerns on cryptocurrency's irregularities. We just need the right knowledge to be firm on our belief no matter what they throw to us as long as you have the right information there's no fake news will break you. What do we have seen about the price of Bitcoin is just a normal routine and a little bump to increase the price before the year ends. But be cautious enough because it might drown your investment if you go short when the market is too volatile. This is why I'd never give any conclusion without digging up more information. May others will consider it true cause they believe that media reports are believing but we can't deny also that they are sometimes paid just to give fake news. It surely won't affect us if we know what exactly it happens but for those who didn't understand the situation, they will simply slip into it. Take for example on that Binance headquarters being seized or closed down as far as i remember which is a false one. Its clearly intended to make up some fud try to down the price because these sentiments can possibly drive the price according to the news neither a positive or negative one. Most of the time these sentiments doesnt affect btc price yet even on a simple day without any news, the price can swing up on big percentages.
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Relying to news alone is a risky strategy. For me news is only a small factor when it comes to trading. I keep relying on price action because I using technical analysis where I do not care about news and other articles that keep updating in market. Rely on technical analysis when making decisions because it is all about price action and you can know when you will continue or when will you do stop loss to lessen the losses.
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So where should we base the price of bitcoin? To whom is it really up to? We have different prices in different exchanges, somehow you could just use that as a basis into how much the value of bitcoin could be. As of the selling part p2p then you could always make your own price. I think that is also your right since you own that bitcoin. Now, if both parties doesn't agree with how much you are trying to sell it then you could always look for another one. There must be someone out there that would accept how much you want it to be sold. Specially illegal ones. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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