$Waves price tracker

[MarquiseMuseum]

Double bottom here at $1 then to $14 or exhaustion at $0.4 (second leg) then reversal march 2021.

Because vostok will become a waves clone controlled by russian state, so the value of waves is now actually $1+$2.5 = $3.5

update:

0.0012 at 35k btc = $42

0.00068 10.2k = $7 so this is where we are headed within two weeks from pure recovery from may decline, then a global push during winter to 42, beginning of new decade bull market

then at some point 0.003 with 35k btc = $105 per waves

perhaps 1-->40--->10--->100



Update 25/9 17:43 $0.83:

Waves is about to complete its wave 2 formation that began with wave 1 in november 2018. Next level for wave 3 is $24 based on 2017 parabolic move. It is a x30 multiple. Buy what you can afford to lose/10-20% of capital/$10 000.

Wave 4 is preliminary between $7-10 depending on where w3 peaks (-70% retracement). W5 will end between $68-95 (x8 multiple).

6-12 months to complete this formation.

If there is a 3rd adoption s-cycle this will end in 2025 at $400 by similar movement: 95--> $5 -->$150-->$45-->$360.

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[wavessurfing]

in effect the situation is severe..as far as waves price is concerned.

[hashman]

The price of waves always decreasing since 23 May at USD pair. Its trading around 0.83 USD at the moment and already hit 0.76 in the day.
It is getting closer to all time low value 0.69 USD (26 Jun 2018).
If can not make a good move from here, no one can keep the waves. Also can be a good potential for the traders whom track the waves closely.

[estenity]

The price of waves always decreasing since 23 May at USD pair. Its trading around 0.83 USD at the moment and already hit 0.76 in the day.
It is getting closer to all time low value 0.69 USD (26 Jun 2018).
If can not make a good move from here, no one can keep the waves. Also can be a good potential for the traders whom track the waves closely.

slight rebound in the direction of one usd.

[MarquiseMuseum]

I have two calculations here:

1. 80 cents was original projected bottom before VST and inflation changes
2. Valuation with 1 billion VST that is merged with Waves in 2021 at 80 sents is 1.1 max supply x0.8 = $880 million
3. With new inflation changes most users will stake their waves and only trade with dividends, so of this 1.1 billion supply only 1.03 is active when dividends from stakes in waves are used for trading (4 million yearly inflation of tokens) instead of main supply
4. In this scenario, waves can go down to $0.08 inorder to account for VST 1 billion extra supply

Calculation two does not include VST and the reason for this is because there are two articles from waves team,1 with VST and Waves merger into 1 native token in 2021, and another article that says this will not happen

Scenario two, is much more bullish:

1. Because of new inflation changes the supply of waves has decreased from 100 million to 4 million if most users stake their share and only trade with dividends. This represents a 96% overnight supply deflation and will result in advance from $0.8 to $20 to adjust for this change on a year on year basis
2. Original bottom was projected at $0.8 at 100 million supply, so technically coin is now in - x30 overshoot due to inflation changes and the equivalent bottom at 4 million active supply is $20 so this is the first corrective target for waves
3. Because $0.8/$20 is the old and new equivalent bottom, whereas a x30 price increase was projected based on other valuation metrics that was conducted on waves, it means that price will go from $20 x30 which is $600.
4. The old projected wave 5 top was $68 and this is now $1800 ($6.8 billion valuation on 100m supply vs $1800 valuation on 4 million supply)

I think both calculations are measured in extremes and that the truth may be derived from a range between $0.1 to $1800. By factor, it is x10 from projected bottom and x2000 from projected top, so fair value may be at x100 and x200 which is $10 as of 2019-10-15.

[estenity]

I have two calculations here:

1. 80 cents was original projected bottom before VST and inflation changes
2. Valuation with 1 billion VST that is merged with Waves in 2021 at 80 sents is 1.1 max supply x0.8 = $880 million
3. With new inflation changes most users will stake their waves and only trade with dividends, so of this 1.1 billion supply only 1.03 is active when dividends from stakes in waves are used for trading (4 million yearly inflation of tokens) instead of main supply
4. In this scenario, waves can go down to $0.08 inorder to account for VST 1 billion extra supply

Calculation two does not include VST and the reason for this is because there are two articles from waves team,1 with VST and Waves merger into 1 native token in 2021, and another article that says this will not happen

Scenario two, is much more bullish:

1. Because of new inflation changes the supply of waves has decreased from 100 million to 4 million if most users stake their share and only trade with dividends. This represents a 96% overnight supply deflation and will result in advance from $0.8 to $20 to adjust for this change on a year on year basis
2. Original bottom was projected at $0.8 at 100 million supply, so technically coin is now in - x30 overshoot due to inflation changes and the equivalent bottom at 4 million active supply is $20 so this is the first corrective target for waves
3. Because $0.8/$20 is the old and new equivalent bottom, whereas a x30 price increase was projected based on other valuation metrics that was conducted on waves, it means that price will go from $20 x30 which is $600.
4. The old projected wave 5 top was $68 and this is now $1800 ($6.8 billion valuation on 100m supply vs $1800 valuation on 4 million supply)

I think both calculations are measured in extremes and that the truth may be derived from a range between $0.1 to $1800. By factor, it is x10 from projected bottom and x2000 from projected top, so fair value may be at x100 and x200 which is $10 as of 2019-10-15.

so everything is open..

[EscrowService28]

I have been writing about waves potential for a long time but now it deserves its own speculation thread because I don't want to be hijacking the main thread.

There are several pros and cons with waves and I will list them all here and if you want to know specifics then just quote one bullet point and I will explain more about that and how it should be included in the final valuation of $Waves:

Pros:

1. 1000tx/s or more
2. Dex with btc and fiat gateways
3. Fixed supply (100 million)
4. Mass token transfer & message inclusion
5. Pywaves index site (lots of hidden value here)
6. Implentation of waves specific price tracking site (like cmc but waves tokens only)
7. Smart contract

Cons:

1. Ticker removal for tokens from june 15 (will be counteracted by community token voting soon) *postponed until december*
2. US client restrictions
3. 50% of supply in top 5 wallets
4. under developed dex UI (lots of hidden value extraction here)
5. Lack of fortune 500 onramping (vostok will take this role)
6. No small cap token tabs in dex/no token scroll function on dex such as volume/market cap browsing (needs manual input to find tokens in search field)

With this summary I will now continue to argue for a potential price development of this brand medium and long term and let's begin with a simplistic upper and lower price boundary based on historical development in log scale:



The price is following a pattern similar to the 2017 runup but at x10 multiple like $1.9 instead of $0.19 etc. We are now in an intermediate phase before a parabolic rise to $68 which I estimate will take place before end of August of this year. It seems the upper bound in this parabola is located at $125 which would value Waves at 12,5 billion dollars and this can be justified if certain criteria from the team development roadmap and suggestions are implemented. As such, there is no mystery with Waves price development as the value is already proven but for now remains largely hidden due to lack of mainstream UI development. All of these technically light weight improvements will easily push towards the $125 price and I believe that the movement will be like this:

IF this is bottom as I have argued in main thread, here at $1.9 as we saw a few days ago, then it should quickly impulse towards $4 from here and then basically move unhindered towards ath and $68 within a few months after which it will retrace to $18-22. Once the top is reached at $125 there is a more significant correction back to mid 30's depending on where we are in the greater bear/bull market by this time next year. Good scenario suggests retracement back to $80 level and bad is mid $30's.

On a longer time scale, a few years or more, Waves price potential is similar to Ethereums 2017 runup at $1800-2200 equivalent because these coins share a lot of commonalities in supply and tech. This scenario is largely dependent on global sentiments and the teams ability to remain competitive with smart contract implementation and onramping, but there are many other factors that must be perfected before $2000 can become a reality.

However, $70-125 is in play right now, and that is the reason for this thread, to lend a perspective to those of you that are too short sighted right now and counting pennies. It is time to expand the horizon for what is possible here.

In this intermediate phase I believe that Waves can attain a hybrid status like a small business market place and decentralized messaging platform, most importantly censorproof. This is then similar to ebay and twitter and should be reflected in their respective market caps (if successful) somewhere at $300 equivalent ($30 billion). By success I am referring to user acquisition and this in turn is reliant on UI improvements to attract mainstream users because waves is the most user friendly token issuance platform compared to Counterparty and Ethereum.

Finally, I believe that the marketing & branding function of waves with mass transfer protocol and message inclusion is heavily discounted compared to for example wall street journal cost per mille (CPM) as a small business owner can reach thousands of rich list and highly targeted users on this platform at a fraction (1/100 or less) of the cost of regular cmp of this caliber. This is an undiscovered market discrepancy which is a big factor in the $70-125 push. The reason that this value descrepancy is not accounted for is because this is high tech and marketers and small business owners of the old school are unable to fully understand the concepts at play here. But they will learn soon, there is only a slight delay.

It is a good project and prices are getting higher. The thing I like about waves is that it will reduce many risks like those of your funds which are stored directly in your wallet, meaning there is no point in hacking DEX, and there is no central administration capable of freezing your account or your trades.

[slaman29]

I have two calculations here:

1. 80 cents was original projected bottom before VST and inflation changes
2. Valuation with 1 billion VST that is merged with Waves in 2021 at 80 sents is 1.1 max supply x0.8 = $880 million
3. With new inflation changes most users will stake their waves and only trade with dividends, so of this 1.1 billion supply only 1.03 is active when dividends from stakes in waves are used for trading (4 million yearly inflation of tokens) instead of main supply
4. In this scenario, waves can go down to $0.08 inorder to account for VST 1 billion extra supply

Calculation two does not include VST and the reason for this is because there are two articles from waves team,1 with VST and Waves merger into 1 native token in 2021, and another article that says this will not happen

Scenario two, is much more bullish:

1. Because of new inflation changes the supply of waves has decreased from 100 million to 4 million if most users stake their share and only trade with dividends. This represents a 96% overnight supply deflation and will result in advance from $0.8 to $20 to adjust for this change on a year on year basis
2. Original bottom was projected at $0.8 at 100 million supply, so technically coin is now in - x30 overshoot due to inflation changes and the equivalent bottom at 4 million active supply is $20 so this is the first corrective target for waves
3. Because $0.8/$20 is the old and new equivalent bottom, whereas a x30 price increase was projected based on other valuation metrics that was conducted on waves, it means that price will go from $20 x30 which is $600.
4. The old projected wave 5 top was $68 and this is now $1800 ($6.8 billion valuation on 100m supply vs $1800 valuation on 4 million supply)

I think both calculations are measured in extremes and that the truth may be derived from a range between $0.1 to $1800. By factor, it is x10 from projected bottom and x2000 from projected top, so fair value may be at x100 and x200 which is $10 as of 2019-10-15.

Thank you for this very interesting projections, even though I probably don't understand the numbers behind some of them (I get the rationale in the end, which is enough I guess).

Like you said though, the worry will be that people will only trade with or use the dividends earned from leasing, so that is more likely the case than the bullish one.

8 cents wave? I'm definitely buying 1000 waves easily at that price!

[MarquiseMuseum]

The biggest problem is Vostok token because it is controlled by Rostec.

If $VST and $WAVES is merged into 1 native token in 2021 when waves 2.0 is launched, then the russian government got 90% majority for $120 million which Ivanov received for partnership and to avoid prosecution for earlier securites problems.

It is much better if this merger does not happen and waves 100 million supply remains.

My advice to Russian government is to pay fair value in open market for $Waves and buy 50% majority up to $20 billion market cap and dump VST project.

If the market knows that waves 2.0 is controlled by Russia, they will simply fork waves and exclude VST and make a swap with all users.

Inorder to prevent what happened here with VST and Ivanov, these brilliant scientists must have protection from a militia crypto. Crypto is a borderless virtual landscape made of gold, but it is without defense, there must be decentralized defense.

Considering the passivity in the public, I think that the future will only be ever more suppressive. The lynch mob is reactive and only comes alive in the hour of desperation, it is a force of annihilation and there is no peaceful revolutions. Crypto geniuses tried to assemble peacefully and overthrow an outdated system that stagnated the world, but they were too few and without support by the masses. When the merchant and retail is onramped, they are already in the hands of the military land owners because these merchants are locked into the land as profit requires stability and machines of production.

The menace of corporate crypto like Libra will fragment the royal kingdom of the military industrial and fiat counterfeiting elite, but it is no solution only an interim governorship through neo feudalism.

But it may be something the world must endure for decades while the old system is deconstructed.

Sovereign blockchains for every person is the best solution, let him be judged according to life choices, not by authority of tyrants. Let it be known as neo renaissance in the image of Ancient Greek city states and Amphictyonic League.

When automated robots arrive, it is time to introduce a blockchain powered basic income by proof of stake.

Deeper into the future, AI powered blockchain, then... singularity and artificial planets in the asteroid belt for everyone.

[MarquiseMuseum]

Price is $0.7, a good place to begin entry for those who think index coins with built in dex is the future. It can reverse at any time in these trading levels so the investmetn size should be big otherwise regret, should have bought more.

Personally preparing investment of 100 000 coins at $0.1, but if there is reversal here, a position of 5000 coins is good enough for financial freedom if strategic exit at $68 which is exactly x100 multiple from todays level.

But most who buy now, will sell at $4-5 and miss big profit.

[MarquiseMuseum]

Waves covered its may 2017 pre parabolic gap that resulted from tether uncertainty. Next stop $24.

Possible $0.58 pierce first.

[kapalmabur]

Waves covered its may 2017 pre parabolic gap that resulted from tether uncertainty. Next stop $24.

Possible $0.58 pierce first.

Are you sure $ 24 will be reached? if true I really feel happy, because a lot of my money on Waves,
I bought it at a price of $ 1.5 - $ 2, and now the price drops below $ 1 makes me dizzy

[MarquiseMuseum]

it should already be $5 to keep parity with BTC since march divergence.

[MarquiseMuseum]

500% vertical before december.

[MarquiseMuseum]

0.00026/$2.26 then 0.00081/$6.78

And then maybe 0.01/$57-68 if btc 5700-6800, few months up to a year.

[Hallmader]

Sometimes, I wonder what is wrong with Waves. It seems a good coin with a good project. The team headed by the bright Sasha is also very active and they are constantly releasing updates to their supporters. But still the price is still way too low. And it is in fact going lower and lower in its rank everyday.

[elisabetheva]

Very well writen. I am whit Waves since ICO and even though i don't know exactly if it can do this move until eoy, for sure Waves got a bright future ahead.

I am sure however in next bull it will move quick and surprise allot of people, I'm not calling it the next ETH but it is a very solid project whit a great team. Great time to invest in Waves now

Until now, many have followed and received tokens in the waves, but I do not see the ease there and many can not be resolved properly. so that until now I was not at all interested in waves.
to compare with ethereum waves certainly need to be improved, because many projects with token waves are not very desirable.

[Hallmader]

Very well writen. I am whit Waves since ICO and even though i don't know exactly if it can do this move until eoy, for sure Waves got a bright future ahead.

I am sure however in next bull it will move quick and surprise allot of people, I'm not calling it the next ETH but it is a very solid project whit a great team. Great time to invest in Waves now

Until now, many have followed and received tokens in the waves, but I do not see the ease there and many can not be resolved properly. so that until now I was not at all interested in waves.
to compare with ethereum waves certainly need to be improved, because many projects with token waves are not very desirable.

If you compare Waves with Ethereum, you should have done so earlier. At this late of the competition, Waves is clearly losing. Ethereum remains at the top and with the most projects built on. But look at Waves. It used to be a close competitor but is now falling. The most recent pump is when they are promoting the Vostok project, which is also nowhere to be found right now. Even the DEX of Waves is also yielding to the more successful Ethereum. They are now admitting ERC20 coins in there.

[wavessurfing]

improvement:

https://www.binance.com/trade.html?symbol=WAVES_BTC