[BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon

[TwitchySeal]

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[eddie13]

Is this thread now the official Biden meme magazine?

mag·a·zine
a chamber for holding a supply of cartridges to be fed automatically to the breech of a gun.

[suchmoon]

If memes could win elections... come to think of it, Trump is obviously a winner in that department so y'all Trump supporters don't even need to bother voting.

[TwitchySeal]

If memes could win elections... come to think of it, Trump is oblviously a winner in that department so y'all Trump supporters don't even need to bother voting.

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[Spendulus]

If memes could win elections... come to think of it, Trump is obviously a winner in that department so y'all Trump supporters don't even need to bother voting.

But I heard it's not MAGA any more. It's KAG.

So don't we Trumpers have to vote once for each meme? It was that or once for each Trump tweet, I don't recall which.

[suchmoon]

So don't we Trumpers have to vote once for each meme? It was that or once for each Trump tweet, I don't recall which.

No no no, only illegal immigrants are allowed to vote multiple times.

[Flying Hellfish]

Fun thread, good luck SM!!

Fun Fact:  The presidency has been bought (the campaign that spent the most money won the WH) every cycle since (and including) 1980, with 1 exception.  Only 1 person has been able to win the WH while spending LESS than their opponent.  I might give some merit to the first non cunty user to name that POTUS (if I don't like you I won't give you merit, merit given for answer is entirely subjective and I reserve the right to NOT give any merit for any reason I like).

It's kind of a ballsy bet SM.  I know a lot of libs think a beach ball could beat Trump but I think that is underestimating how energized the GOP base is, how much money his campaign has and how much people HATE neolibs.  Beating an incumbent POTUS with a "good" economy is a monumental task in and of itself, add in the money, the Russians and the hyper partisan energized base and you have a mountain to climb as the Dem candidate.

I couldn't bet on an X dem vs Trump bet right now at least not at even money.  I absolutely see a path for Trump to win (Biden/HRC2.0) and one for him to lose (feel the BERN).  Your bet (to me) gets so much more interesting once a nom is finalized!

[PrimeNumber7]

Trump spent much less than Clinton this past cycle. By a pretty large margin.

[suchmoon]

I know a lot of libs think a beach ball could beat Trump

I don't have a particularly fuzzy feeling about any of the Democratic candidates. Come to think of it, most of them are about as intelligent as beach balls.

But that's not what wins elections and not what my bet is based on. I've done some work for a voter outreach group in one of the "battleground" states and it is my understanding that higher voter turnout would favor Democrats (lazy millennials/gen Z) so I'm basically betting on good turnout. We'll see.

[Sendoku]

I think Trump's gonna be reelected, at least based on previous guys getting impeached from the office. Everytime a president got impeached his rating gone through the roof

[iamsheikhadil]

This is going to be so interesting! More fun than it was in 2016. While historically, it is trump who should win (because he's incumbent, economy hasn't crushed, almost every president in last few decades held office twice terms), I think this election might be an exception. A popular candidate like Biden has real chances to defeat Trump and even I am hesitating to put any money on bet on either side as both sides look so strong and swinging.

[TwitchySeal]

If anyone is able to take out student loans, borrowing the max and putting it all on Biden to win the nomination seems like almost a freeroll.

[PrimeNumber7]

If anyone is able to take out student loans, borrowing the max and putting it all on Biden to win the nomination seems like almost a freeroll.

You are assuming that Pocahontas, or sanders would automatically beat trump, and I don’t think this is the case. Both are too extreme for mainstream voters and really appeal to fringe democratic voters, who are more likely to vote in a primary.

It also doesn’t account for the possibility that no one will win in the first round at the convention that could result in someone like Clinton getting the nomination.

[TwitchySeal]

If anyone is able to take out student loans, borrowing the max and putting it all on Biden to win the nomination seems like almost a freeroll.

You are assuming that Pocahontas, or sanders would automatically beat trump, and I don’t think this is the case. Both are too extreme for mainstream voters and really appeal to fringe democratic voters, who are more likely to vote in a primary.

It also doesn’t account for the possibility that no one will win in the first round at the convention that could result in someone like Clinton getting the nomination.

I'm talking about the primary, not assuming anyone will automatically beat Trump in the general election.  
The biggest assumption is that if Bernie or Warren win (and the Biden bet lost) you wouldn't have to pay off the loan.  I was mostly joking though, it's just something interesting to think about.

[PrimeNumber7]

If anyone is able to take out student loans, borrowing the max and putting it all on Biden to win the nomination seems like almost a freeroll.

You are assuming that Pocahontas, or sanders would automatically beat trump, and I don’t think this is the case. Both are too extreme for mainstream voters and really appeal to fringe democratic voters, who are more likely to vote in a primary.

It also doesn’t account for the possibility that no one will win in the first round at the convention that could result in someone like Clinton getting the nomination.

I'm talking about the primary, not assuming anyone will automatically beat Trump in the general election. 
The biggest assumption is that if Bernie or Warren win (and the Biden bet lost) you wouldn't have to pay off the loan.  I was mostly joking though, it's just something interesting to think about.

If you are describing it as a ‘free roll’ the assumption would be that Bernie or Warren would win. Trump isn’t canceling student debt, so Biden loosing the nomination and Trump loosing the general is the only way that bet is a freeroll.

Unless you are saying that Trump winning the general will do so much for the economy that a student in college stands to earn a high enough of a higher wage that he can afford to throw away one semesters worth of tuition. 

[TwitchySeal]

If anyone is able to take out student loans, borrowing the max and putting it all on Biden to win the nomination seems like almost a freeroll.

You are assuming that Pocahontas, or sanders would automatically beat trump, and I don’t think this is the case. Both are too extreme for mainstream voters and really appeal to fringe democratic voters, who are more likely to vote in a primary.

It also doesn’t account for the possibility that no one will win in the first round at the convention that could result in someone like Clinton getting the nomination.

I'm talking about the primary, not assuming anyone will automatically beat Trump in the general election.  
The biggest assumption is that if Bernie or Warren win (and the Biden bet lost) you wouldn't have to pay off the loan.  I was mostly joking though, it's just something interesting to think about.

If you are describing it as a ‘free roll’ the assumption would be that Bernie or Warren would win. Trump isn’t canceling student debt, so Biden loosing the nomination and Trump loosing the general is the only way that bet is a freeroll.

Unless you are saying that Trump winning the general will do so much for the economy that a student in college stands to earn a high enough of a higher wage that he can afford to throw away one semesters worth of tuition.  

You're right.  I wasn't thinking before typing lol.

Ok lets change that to if Bernie or Warren win the nomination, max out your student loans and bet it all on Trump.

[eddie13]

It's an interesting thought but what if they can't get the legislation through to actually pay off the student loans?
Even if they say they will, or want to, pay off student loans, do you think they could actually pull it off?
I have doubts..

[Balthazar]

It's an interesting thought but what if they can't get the legislation through to actually pay off the student loans?
Even if they say they will, or want to, pay off student loans, do you think they could actually pull it off?
I have doubts..

I believe this topic should be renamed. I suggest "To Trump or not to Trump" as new title.

[eddie13]

Donald J Trump not running for any reason (primaried out, dead, impeached, etc) means a draw even if he wins via write-in.

Well, I guess we made it through that part.. Or is their much more "impeachment" to drag on as long as possible to use against Trump in the elections?
"acquitted"
What does this do to the odds?
"Trump is found "innocent" of quid for blow (whatever madeup charges were)"
Iowa screwing Bernie; igniting the extreme soc/com leftists to split the D..
Buttpirate VS Trump?
Biden burning in flames? (least insane of D's despite the fact that he makes out with his granddaughter on camera)
83% of independents approve of last presidential address..
Pelosi attentionwhores ripping paper..