[BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon

[squatz1]

Voted this morning..
Small town, long line..
Kinda know the people running it, they say turnout is huge..
No line in 2016 when I voted then, line this time took about 20 minutes to get into the building..

Watching on cnn.. They aren’t seeming all that confident in a Biden victory like they were for Hillary in 2016 either..

Have been experiencing the same thing in my area. Seems like lines are long while a TON of people have already voted either through early voting, or through mail in (absentee) voting.

Lines are pretty long, though they're going fast enough in my area to where people aren't mad about that.

Kinda curious on people who live in like Texas, Florida, Pennsylvania, etc and how lines are there. Probably pretty insane.

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[JollyGood]

What was the mood around the area when you were waiting in line to cast your vote? Did voters give any indications about them being more towards Trump or Biden?
 

Voted this morning..
Small town, long line..
Kinda know the people running it, they say turnout is huge..
No line in 2016 when I voted then, line this time took about 20 minutes to get into the building..

Watching on cnn.. They aren’t seeming all that confident in a Biden victory like they were for Hillary in 2016 either..

[eddie13]

What was the mood around the area when you were waiting in line to cast your vote? Did voters give any indications about them being more towards Trump or Biden?
 

Voted this morning..
Small town, long line..
Kinda know the people running it, they say turnout is huge..
No line in 2016 when I voted then, line this time took about 20 minutes to get into the building..

Watching on cnn.. They aren’t seeming all that confident in a Biden victory like they were for Hillary in 2016 either..

Maybe 25% wearing masks
(Trump)

[JollyGood]

Well the polls close in around 3 hours from now. If I did not have plans for the early morning I would have stayed up and watched some of the results come in. I think most polls are showing Biden is heading to the White House and Trump is heading to the history books for being the third president since World War II to have served one-term.

Keeping Gerald Ford aside because he never actually won an election instead he took office for the remainder of the Nixon term after he resigned and also keeping Lyndon B Johnson aside because he served 2 years of the Kennedy term plus the 4 years when he stood for election then refused to stand for a full second term - it leaves just Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush as the only one term presidents since World War II that lost an election while being the incumbent. I think polls are showing Trump will be joining that list.

If Trump manages to pull off a victory then it will be a shock to most but if he did it against Hillary Clinton in 2016 then it is possible for him to do it against Biden in 2020 too.

What was the mood around the area when you were waiting in line to cast your vote? Did voters give any indications about them being more towards Trump or Biden?
 

Voted this morning..
Small town, long line..
Kinda know the people running it, they say turnout is huge..
No line in 2016 when I voted then, line this time took about 20 minutes to get into the building..

Watching on cnn.. They aren’t seeming all that confident in a Biden victory like they were for Hillary in 2016 either..

Maybe 25% wearing masks
(Trump)

[eddie13]

All I can say right now is..
Come on baby, eddie's wallet needs this WIN!!

Must... Have... Coinz...

Still feeling 50/50 really..

[AB de Royse777]

I have been watching this thread from a long time but never left a comment since I really do not have much idea about US politics. Now that you are guys are at the end game, I would like to say good luck to both suchmoon and eddie.



It's not looking 50/50 now. I would say Biden is fairly well ahead. Still it will be too early to make a conclusion so fingers crossed to both of you.

[Tipstar]

I have been watching this thread from a long time but never left a comment since I really do not have much idea about US politics. Now that you are guys are at the end game, I would like to say good luck to both suchmoon and eddie.



It's not looking 50/50 now. I would say Biden is fairly well ahead. Still it will be too early to make a conclusion so fingers crossed to both of you.

The graphics tells nothing. All depends on the results of Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina and Wisconsin.
Trump is leading on the first four states on that list and wining them would keep him President.

[AB de Royse777]

The graphics tells nothing. All depends on the results of Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina and Wisconsin.
Trump is leading on the first four states on that list and wining them would keep him President.

So this proves what I said at the start :-D

I really do not have much idea about US politics.

[nullius]

All I can say right now is..
Come on baby, eddie's wallet needs this WIN!!

Must... Have... Coinz...

Still feeling 50/50 really..

I had begun to write a long essay re my epic charity bet with theymos, analysing (among other things) Trump’s chances, and calling it 50/50.  Unfortunately, I did not have time to finish it timely.  (Some other parts may still be relevant after this is over.)  I know that I said somewhere else already, it’s a coin-flip.

I may also have mentioned this before somewhere:  To be exciting, this reality-TV show has all along been balanced on a knife’s edge.  Trump’s rôle has always been to be the political underdog, who will either barely win—or barely lose.  And the biased liberal media are indubitably full of shit; anybody who was comforted by them (or scared by them) is stupid.

It was wise of me to take an even-odds bet on Trump.  You, too.

Other reply to you is intended.

[TwitchySeal]

I have been watching this thread from a long time but never left a comment since I really do not have much idea about US politics. Now that you are guys are at the end game, I would like to say good luck to both suchmoon and eddie.



It's not looking 50/50 now. I would say Biden is fairly well ahead. Still it will be too early to make a conclusion so fingers crossed to both of you.

The graphics tells nothing. All depends on the results of Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina and Wisconsin.
Trump is leading on the first four states on that list and wining them would keep him President.

His lead right now means little as well since they are only now beginning to start counting the votes made before yesterday (of which 60-70% should be for Biden).

For example, right now Trump has a lead in counted votes in Georgia, but the NYTimes has Biden as a slight favorite to win the state.

[(o)(o)ilikeboobs(o)(o)]

Although there are a few states that have not yet released their voting results, I still have faith in their people's support for Trump. As in the last vote, these states count the ballots in the end and will often support Trump.
The vote is extremely close. The remaining chances for the two candidates are nearly the same, even though Trump insists he will win.

[suchmoon]

The trumpening is happening...

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/trump-sues-to-stop-michigan-ballot-count-demanding-access-to-tally-sites.html

President Donald Trump’s campaign said Wednesday that it had filed suits to halt the counting of ballots in Michigan and Pennsylvania, as the campaign demanded increased access to observe the tallying process at numerous locations in those battleground states.

Funny how they were fine observing the red votes but suddenly need a tantrum more access now.

[NotATether]

The trumpening is happening...

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/trump-sues-to-stop-michigan-ballot-count-demanding-access-to-tally-sites.html

President Donald Trump’s campaign said Wednesday that it had filed suits to halt the counting of ballots in Michigan and Pennsylvania, as the campaign demanded increased access to observe the tallying process at numerous locations in those battleground states.

Funny how they were fine observing the red votes but suddenly need a tantrum more access now.

 Is he doing this because the extra uncounted votes in those states will make him lose them?

[squatz1]

The trumpening is happening...

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/trump-sues-to-stop-michigan-ballot-count-demanding-access-to-tally-sites.html

President Donald Trump’s campaign said Wednesday that it had filed suits to halt the counting of ballots in Michigan and Pennsylvania, as the campaign demanded increased access to observe the tallying process at numerous locations in those battleground states.

Funny how they were fine observing the red votes but suddenly need a tantrum more access now.

Pretty sure this has been expected the entire time. Here's the Axios reporting talking about how Donald Trump was planning on declaring victory on election day, which he did (well technically it was 3am the next morning), and then he was going to begin filing lawsuits to stop the absentee ballots from being counted in certain states.

I know this doesn't really compare to the Brooks Brothers riot, cause this isn't a recount. Though I do think that allowing other people into the area to supervise isn't a horrible idea. Then again, the admin just wants to stop the voting and get the courts involved. They really don't care about watching the ballots, lol.

Axios Article - https://www.axios.com/trump-claim-election-victory-ballots-97eb12b9-5e35-402f-9ea3-0ccfb47f613f.html

[suchmoon]

Is he doing this because the extra uncounted votes in those states will make him lose them?

He already lost Michigan. Still leading in PA so maybe he's hoping to prevent that from slipping away but this lawsuit can't really do that. There is no basis for their claims. Basically just trolling now and trying to provoke some conflict maybe.

[TwitchySeal]

Is he doing this because the extra uncounted votes in those states will make him lose them?

He already lost Michigan. Still leading in PA so maybe he's hoping to prevent that from slipping away but this lawsuit can't really do that. There is no basis for their claims. Basically just trolling now and trying to provoke some conflict maybe.

NYT making it look like Biden is in a good spot in PA.



They also have him as a slight favorite in GA still, even though Trump has more votes at the moment.

[El duderino_]

This is very far from my European bed... Following as best as I can, but what is the situation, will it be Biden or Trump? Best guesses ....

[suchmoon]

This is very far from my European bed... Following as best as I can, but what is the situation, will it be Biden or Trump? Best guesses ....

No need to guess much anymore... math is on Biden's side, Trump has mostly tantrums remaining.

[TwitchySeal]

This is very far from my European bed... Following as best as I can, but what is the situation, will it be Biden or Trump? Best guesses ....

No need to guess much anymore... math is on Biden's side, Trump has mostly tantrums remaining.

For the moment I am agreeing with you. So now let's bet on how bad the tantrums will be.

Odds I'm taking for:

- Epic meltdown twitstorm gets Trump banned from Twitter: 20%
- He refuses the leave office until a ruling is made by the Supreme Court: 20%
- He blames China for election interference: 20%
- He waves his middle finger at the press and tells everybody to fuck off: 10%
- He calls on the militias to "do their duty" to protect the president at all costs: 10%
- He rips his hair off in disgust: 5%

Well he just 'claimed' enough electoral votes to win, so I guess that's that, we'll just have to have two presidents.

[eddie13]

Michigan is being pretty F'd up.. Some strange vote jumps 100% for biden, and atleast 1 case of voter machines overvoting for the left (to put it nicely)..
Antrim county Michigan fakes Biden votes???!!!

Some "wonky" stuff going down..