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July 09, 2020, 03:11:36 PM
Last edit: July 09, 2020, 04:41:57 PM by layoutph
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To all ANN thread designer, if you are about to create an ANN thread designer for an ICO client or crypto services. Make sure to require them to buy a copper membership in bitcointalk so you dont have to post in your behalf.

Someone gave me a negative trust from an ANN thread I created from a client which has a plagiarized whitepaper. I dont think its fair I am really upset.

Please see this thread what happened. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5257732
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July 10, 2020, 12:24:51 AM
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That's awful, if you really ever not connected in the project you just created and posted it you should not receive any red trust.
You already removed the content of the thread you created, but I found the archived in the scam accusation thread about you.
You stated in the thread that you are not part of thE EURST team, then those who tagged you and other people should consider you are just paid to do this, posting ANN on their behalf.

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July 10, 2020, 02:45:28 AM
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You have a point we have no control on what is going to happen in a particular project I also offer marketing services and had a strong disclaimer, some projects that I thought was a great project turn out to be a shit project and independent bounty managers have a lot of risks, I once put a red trust on one guy for posting dubious project but after I saw his thread and disclaimer and requested that it be taken down I put it down because I don't want to risk one's livelihood for something he has no control.
But it will be a different story if he continues to promote even though there are already a lot of bad reports.


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July 10, 2020, 06:29:36 AM
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If you think the negative feedback isn't fair then you should create a thread in the reputation section and ask some of the DT members to discuss your case.

I'm not saying it's fair or not but there's a chance that it gets removed or changed to a neutral if most of them agree.

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July 10, 2020, 06:53:46 AM
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If you think the negative feedback isn't fair then you should create a thread in the reputation section and ask some of the DT members to discuss your case.

I'm not saying it's fair or not but there's a chance that it gets removed or changed to a neutral if most of them agree.

This suggestions you need to follow so you can talk about the issue of having negative trust.

It's a good thing you open this kind of topic so other Ann thread designer will not follow the same mistake you do.  Buying a copper member account are smaller amount compared to the account that will be tagged because of the owners of the project mistake .

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July 10, 2020, 06:54:36 AM
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To all ANN thread designer, if you are about to create an ANN thread designer for an ICO client or crypto services. Make sure to require them to buy a copper membership in bitcointalk so you dont have to post in your behalf.

Someone gave me a negative trust from an ANN thread I created from a client which has a plagiarized whitepaper. I dont think its fair I am really upset.

Please see this thread what happened. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5257732
First of all you shouldn't post anything on behalf of others, if you do then these things will happen. Now you have no other choice than debating or accepting the trust score.

Its better to debate about your reputation issue on reputation section, hope you will get some voice if you clearly not connected with the project.

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July 10, 2020, 09:13:27 AM
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To all ANN thread designer, if you are about to create an ANN thread designer for an ICO client or crypto services. Make sure to require them to buy a copper membership in bitcointalk so you dont have to post in your behalf.

Someone gave me a negative trust from an ANN thread I created from a client which has a plagiarized whitepaper. I dont think its fair I am really upset.

Please see this thread what happened. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5257732
First of all you shouldn't post anything on behalf of others, if you do then these things will happen. Now you have no other choice than debating or accepting the trust score.

Its better to debate about your reputation issue on reputation section, hope you will get some voice if you clearly not connected with the project.

He can actually debate yet he do put up some disclaimer which is an evidence that do shows of that he's no part of the team and just posting their ANN on behalf.
I can say that OP did have some mistake and shouldnt really be careless on next time because we know on how shitty these  projects do become after all these years
which i can say that theyre mostly fraud and a single mistake of attaching yourself to theirs will surely have corresponding reputation issue.
@OP fight for your right and just dont easily accept those ratings that been given out.

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July 10, 2020, 02:38:41 PM
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Thank you very much in your replies guys. Yes I admit I am a little bit careless. I thought whatever I am doing is just fine as I have been creating crypto designs since 2016 without any issue like this. Never knew you might get flag from creating design from a client that have a plagiarized whitepaper. Seriously did you ever check each of your client's whitepaper if they plagiarized it?

I actually Google the clients coin and there is no occurrence in bitcointalk from the past, so I thought its safe.

Too late, reputation hungry people already accused me and gave me a negative trust.

Lesson learned:
1. Never post client's ANN thread you created using your Bitcointalk account, any accusation they might receive in the future might be link to you.
2. Require them to buy copper membership account
3. Learn how to identify your client.
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July 10, 2020, 03:12:08 PM
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Thank you very much in your replies guys. Yes I admit I am a little bit careless. I thought whatever I am doing is just fine as I have been creating crypto designs since 2016 without any issue like this. Never knew you might get flag from creating design from a client that have a plagiarized whitepaper. Seriously did you ever check each of your client's whitepaper if they plagiarized it?

I actually Google the clients coin and there is no occurrence in bitcointalk from the past, so I thought its safe.

Too late, reputation hungry people already accused me and gave me a negative trust.

Lesson learned:
1. Never post client's ANN thread you created using your Bitcointalk account, any accusation they might receive in the future might be link to you.
2. Require them to buy copper membership account
3. Learn how to identify your client.

Well congratulations  its look like the issue you get has been solved already .

Your account doesn't have anymore negative trust its already remove by DT members. luckily they get you a chance to be back on track with your service. But it's a lesson learn I hope that the mistake you do will never happen again to you.

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July 10, 2020, 03:36:03 PM
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Wow yes negative trust was removed. Thanks DT whoever you are. And it wont happen again, planning to focus more on mainstream clients and not with crypto. I feel tired of explaining and debating in the past few days.  Thanks to all your comments.

Thank you very much in your replies guys. Yes I admit I am a little bit careless. I thought whatever I am doing is just fine as I have been creating crypto designs since 2016 without any issue like this. Never knew you might get flag from creating design from a client that have a plagiarized whitepaper. Seriously did you ever check each of your client's whitepaper if they plagiarized it?

I actually Google the clients coin and there is no occurrence in bitcointalk from the past, so I thought its safe.

Too late, reputation hungry people already accused me and gave me a negative trust.

Lesson learned:
1. Never post client's ANN thread you created using your Bitcointalk account, any accusation they might receive in the future might be link to you.
2. Require them to buy copper membership account
3. Learn how to identify your client.

Well congratulations  its look like the issue you get has been solved already .

Your account doesn't have anymore negative trust its already remove by DT members. luckily they get you a chance to be back on track with your service. But it's a lesson learn I hope that the mistake you do will never happen again to you.
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July 10, 2020, 04:13:10 PM
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To all ANN thread designer, if you are about to create an ANN thread designer for an ICO client or crypto services. Make sure to require them to buy a copper membership in bitcointalk so you dont have to post in your behalf.

Someone gave me a negative trust from an ANN thread I created from a client which has a plagiarized whitepaper. I dont think its fair I am really upset.

Please see this thread what happened. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5257732
I think ICO project already doing this for a long time and They are also purchasing copper membership so that they can post with images
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July 11, 2020, 09:40:34 AM
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Never knew you might get flag from creating design from a client that have a plagiarized whitepaper.

To be fair, you never got a negative trust (not a flag) for creating a design. You got negative trust for posting a self-moderated ANN thread with plagiarized content in WP. How the hell should the community know you're not part of their team? (Your 'disclaimer' came only after you were called out and red-tagged by DT members.)

Seriously did you ever check each of your client's whitepaper if they plagiarized it?

Yes, every time!

I actually Google the clients coin and there is no occurrence in bitcointalk from the past, so I thought its safe.

Make sure to do your due diligence properly next time. Check the team and white paper, search the forum, check for scam accusations, or even ask senior members if you’re unsure about the project before you start to support it.

Too late, reputation hungry people already accused me and gave me a negative trust.

This right here shows your wrong attitude. You are still playing the role of an innocent victim here and trying to blame someone else for your actions instead of accepting your mistake and showing a little bit respect for the community. Those 'reputation hungry people', as you call them, work for the benefit of the whole community by pointing out potential scams. Unlike you, they put in their effort and time to help others without any compensation for their work.

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July 11, 2020, 12:40:24 PM
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Make sure to do your due diligence properly next time. Check the team and white paper, search the forum, check for scam accusations, or even ask senior members if you’re unsure about the project before you start to support it.
I think designers only design what the client asks for, then submit it. The ability to analyze the validity of a project is not really necessary for a designer (though it's not wrong to learn it). If the designers still has to do a due diligence on each of their clients, it will take a lot of time for just one order.

Even if there are other things to do besides designing, then all consequences must be accepted because they have agreed to it (may have been paid for or done voluntarily on the basis of support or bonuses from the service).

All that is needed in this case is to focus on the field and follow the general design service procedures:
Receiving orders> designing/revising> submitting orders> receiving money.
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July 11, 2020, 04:30:54 PM
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The trust feedback has been changed to neutral so I think all is good now and you are in good terms. There's no purpose for the thread anymore so it's time to lock it.

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